Hi,
I recently rooted my Sensation XE and tried several ROMs.
The thing is, before I rooted the phone my Quadrant score was 2300. I did not check the score after root operation but before flashing other custom ROMs.
I tried ARDH, CoreDroid, InsertCoin, LeeDroid and at last a stock XE ROM from the forum.
The Quadrant score of none of them exceeded 1900 after rooting.
At all of these ROMs after rooting, the processor seems to be 1.2 GHz Dual-Core in the hardware information section but the CPU Master Free application shows 1,5 GHz overclocked.
My question is, how did my processor information became 1.2 GHz? Did it occur in the rooting operation?
Everybody say that the rooting operation is same between sensation and sensation XE, but the performance i get from my XE became like a sensation with Beats Audio.
If the hardware of Sensation and XE are the same but Xe overclocked, how did this significant change happen?
Because my device seems to be overclocked to 1.5 Ghz in all of these ROMs.
Even if you don't know the answer, thanks for reading a question this long
I believe that the Sensation XE runs at 1.5, but the Sensation is underclocked to 1.2.
The kernel will unlock a phones ability to be clocked at a higher speed. Use somethinh like daemon oc or set CPU to control the maximum and minimum speeds. Any speed increase may well be tempered by reduced battery life. I have an original Sensation running ARHD 3.6.9 & bricked kernel which allows me to pick and choose my clock speed with Daemon oc. Last run I got 3000+ on quadrant so check your CPU settings. FWIW speed isn't everything
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the processor used in sensation is msm 8260 which is clocked at 1.2ghz nd that of sensation xe is also the same msm 8260 clocked at a little higher 1.5ghz...the spec sheet of msm8260 says that the recommended max clockspeed : 1.5ghz and min clockspeed : 1.2ghz....so it means that its just the same processor used but with different clockspeed right...but some fellows say that its a different soc used in sensation xe...they also say there was 2 versions made for the same msm8260...ofcourse 2 are made but they are only clocked differently....what do u guys say?? if they were the same soc's then the max clock that can be used in both should be same isnt it?? that is at present the sensation's max clock speed with kernels is 1.89ghz..so if the sensation xe's soc is also the same,it should also have the same max speed though it is clocked at 1.5ghz already...just explain this anyone please,......
same in both... my sensation is running 1.5GHz no problems
maybe msm8660 ?
cannyavk said:
maybe msm8660 ?
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Nope, msm8660 is used in the evo3d because it supports both gsm and cdma but there's no need for that here
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Hello, first of many, many thanks to mike1986 for the highly successful HD 5.0.2
There are still a few small problems that are eliminated with security with the next update. One small thing surprises me, the processor will be raised to 1.5 Ghz. On my sensation is still displayed in the settings of 1.2 Ghz. Can anyone say why?
Thanks to all repliers
bioplus said:
Hello, first of many, many thanks to mike1986 for the highly successful HD 5.0.2
There are still a few small problems that are eliminated with security with the next update. One small thing surprises me, the processor will be raised to 1.5 Ghz. On my sensation is still displayed in the settings of 1.2 Ghz. Can anyone say why?
Thanks to all repliers
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I believe the kernel became smarter at detecting your phone's true ID. It KNOWS you didnt buy the XE version, somehow. Im sure people will figure out how to trick it again.
Matt
I believe the default is 1.2 and without a custom kernel yet it can't be overclocked to 1.5. It may actually be a non-xe source which could explain why it's set at 1.2. I believe there's no beats audio without a mod so that makes sense to me. I'm not positive though.
This is what the 1.5 ghz XE mod is: someone (I can't remember the dev, probably baadnewz) downloaded the HTC XE 2.3.4 source, modified an if statement (essentially reads like this: if XE identifier in the SoC == true, 1.5 ghz else 1.2 ghz) so that it would be 1.5 regardless of that if statement, and compiled the kernel.
With the ics roms, we don't have ics HTC kernel source, so secant go and change that if statement, so if you have a regular sensation and flash an XE rom, you'll get 1.2 ghz, and if youhave an XE and flash an XE rom, Hull get 1.5 ghz (and 1.2 if yummy flash a regular sensation rom).
No one at the point can change this.
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OK guys. After much searching i've just become confused as to which is the best overclock app/ROM for the HTC sensation z710e. I used SetCPU but it couldn't actually take my processors above 1.188GHZ and I tried the sense-o-maniac ROM and also the android revolution 6.0.3 ROM, both of which say the processors are overclocked to 1.5GHZ but there is absolutely no difference to me, no they are not slower, and I just want a clear straight up ROM or app that OVERclocks.
Thanks,
Sensation lover
I under clocked my cpu to 1 ghz and I see no difference in speed.... From 1.2 to 1.5 its 20% increase in cpu speed.... Speed of the phone doesn't depend on cpu alone... So thats around 7-10% increase in speed overall (because there is gpu, ROM, sd card, memory)... And thats maybe... Do you really think you can see 7% in speed? Try some synthetic cpu benchmark with 1.2 and 1.5 and only then will you see....
This is my five cents ;-)
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Well the app that controls the CPU clocking is limited in what it can do by the Kernel you're running.
If you're Kernel only supports 1.18 Ghz, Set CPU can't do anything about it.
So you need a Kernel that supports overclocking. The Kernel also controls what kind of governors who can put on the CPU (Conservative, performance, battery saving, etc...)
As far as the controller apps go though, I like the ones that can set the screen off speeds at a different rate than the screen on speeds. That makes sure I don't drain battery at alarming rates when the phone is in my pocket because a rogue app decided it wanted to get funky.
As Skipjacks mentioned, the overclocking speed is due to the kernel you have flashed.
If you are unsure on which kernel to use,
Always use the kernels suggested by the ROM developer.
Of course, you could try various Kernels but do keep in mind that not all ROM's support different kernels.
Normally the current roms has CPU clocking apps built into it,
one widely used is the Daemon control. It usually comes with an app that you can control the overclocking speed.
The current app i'm using, I use System Tuner Pro (yes I support app developers)
It enables me to force cpu2 online, which ultimately makes my phone faster.
Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.
Virtuous Quattro ICS rom (and its kernel) goes to 1.9 safely
Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?
i'm not sure, i dont use a sense rom
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Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?
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Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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olyloh6696 said:
Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?
325i. said:
Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?
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Yes.. I just said Unity9...
It's not recommended. It's old and has bugs with the front camera.
In the first place, you shouldn't OC higher than 1.5ghz. The chip isn't designed to run a frequencies higher than 1.5ghz for ling periods of time. In the long run, you will damage to motherboard, fry the chip etc. Battery life will also be significantly shorter too.
If your intentions were to do that, i don't think you should have got this phone in the first place, and you should have just stuck with the Sensation.
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325i. said:
Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.
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the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.
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the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.
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The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags
Hey,
I limited all my kernels, Hyperion, Endymion and Reaper kernels to around 1.5GHz, as it is way more than enough. I did this for some reasons:
- As it has been discussed all over these forums, devices handle OC/UV differently, no matter if the cpu is the same. This has to do with sheer luck with what part you get from the factory, your phone is only guaranteed to work at up to 1GHz. It may seem stable at 1.5 but reboot once a week, some phones may not boot at 1.2, and some phones can chug along happily at 2GHz.
- Every newbie that lands on these forums will instantly set the frequency as high as they can. Then they will get a freeze now and then. Then they pull the battery. Then they kill the phone. THEN they check the forums and read that they should not have pulled the battery.
- With my current roms, where the kernels are tested, there is no need for overclocking. Things run very very smooth at stock values. But I believe in "power to the user", that's why I even give the option to OC. The last time I had to overclock my phone due to lag/choppiness was with Virtuous 2.39 or whatever, months ago.
So ask yourself why you want to go higher. Bragging rights? Quadrant scores to show your mates? Do you even notice a difference between, let's say, 1.2GHz and 1.5GHz? Is it really worth it?
Think about it.
Cheers
So much detail, couldn't have said it better myself In short, 1 Ghz is enough for most, 1.5 is more than enough. Anything above that is DANGEROUS and should be avoided.
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The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags
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Yeah, that's the regular Sensation.
We are taking about the XL which has a single core 1.5ghz CPU.
+1 agree with lowveld. I Never OC'ed for normal usage. I don't feel the need. You can't tell the difference in performance IMO
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I'm sorry if I missed the point, but is there anything overclocking that much is necessary for? I mean, I'm at 1,3 GHz max now but my phone runs at 1 GHz 60% of the time, rest of the time lower. I never reached something above 1 GHz.. ?
So why overclocking even more?
Edit:
My mistake, 60% of time it's at 245 mhz and only 30% of time at 1GHz.
But my question is still the same..
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I have one confutation. How HTC has over clocked XE at 1.5GHz. Because if we flash the same rom on original sensation, it will not change cpu speed. So how XE rom identify the device type? Or there are two version of Qualcomm MSM8260? I have tested this after changing both CID & MID…
I don't know for sure, but from my experience and knowledge I guess that XE has a different kernel.
There is a line in the kernel that reads what variant of the Sensation you have. I heard that the Snapdragon on the XE is a newer release of the 8260 chipsets with improved clock speed.
Basically the same CPU with better cooling/capabilities to be stable enough @ 1.5 GHz.
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There is a line in the kernel that reads what variant of the Sensation you have. I heard that the Snapdragon on the XE is a newer release of the 8260 chipsets with improved clock speed.
Basically the same CPU with better cooling/capabilities to be stable enough @ 1.5 GHz.
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I thought so...
As far as I know the phones are identical internally apart from the battery.
Get CID getter and have a look. There are "hidden" partitions that we don't get access to, so for example if you change CID the original info is still retained, same for MID.
As some one mentioned I believe that the kernel reads the info and determines what it'll do. You can run both standard and XE at 1728MHz (YMMV) without issues. The XE won't clock any faster than the standard and delivers the same performance.