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[BOUNTY] Appradio App MOD for Pioneer Appradio 2 $975 SO FAR!!!

This thread will be the bounty thread for the willing developer to MOD the app for the new Pioneer Appradio 2
To collect the bounty discussed in this thread the Developer must modify the Appradio Android Application or create a new application to allow Full touch control of the Display Mirroring. Currently the Appradio 2 accepts HDMI input via mini-hdmi or MHL.
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uribees (xda) = $25
franklin270h (xda) = $100
xavenged (xda) = $100
outcastrc (xda) = $100
baldcyclops (xda) = $25
beestee (xda) = $25
shaxs (xda) = $100
defe (xda) = $25
Gelroos (xda) = $150
TLS2000 (xda) = $25
amblix (xda) = $100
Software Guy (xda) = $50
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I recently picked up an Appradio 2 from Pioneer. The premise is good but the excecution is poor IMO.
The app seems overly complicated and quite frankly pisses me off the more i use it.
Now what i would like to know is if the app can be modified to just offer control of the MHL mirror. That would be ideal for me. At points within the app it allows you to control the screen via the touch screen on the appradio 2. Then at certain places it doesn't allow any touch or only touch portions of the screen.
I have very minimal knowledge of programming for android so i cannot tackle it myself. Im also willing to start a bounty for this as well if someone shows some interest.
Here is the apk: Link

Anyone up for the task?

I just got one of these earlier today. I was very excited at the "Android" support. I haven't installed it yet (buying a washer and dryer takes forever!), but I hope to do it tomorrow.
Did you do your install or did you have somebody do it for you?
Also, have you messed with navigation through phone at all? What cables does it need? I know it needs an MHL for my SGS2, but where can I find the cable that plugs into the back of the unit?

Its a simple straight forward install. The cable in the back is a full size HDMI that comes out of the mhl adapter.
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Gotcha. I need to pick one up for my sgs2.
Where did you put your nav antenna and your microphone?
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The best place for you will be wildly different but I put my mic in the factory VW location and the GPS inside the dash
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So I was really excited about getting this, but it sounds like everyone that's gotten it has been disappointed. I'm interested in whether anyone really likes it.

Mine ended up being broken (non-working bluetooth).
Returned it and got a dnx7180 with nav and good ****.
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muzicman82 said:
So I was really excited about getting this, but it sounds like everyone that's gotten it has been disappointed. I'm interested in whether anyone really likes it.
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As was i and to be honest i am sort of disappointed. However, the potential is there for this unit. I believe with the right modes to the app and/or unit it will be GREAT!
The system is similar as the MIMICS system. It mirrors the display of the phone via MHL and uses bluetooth to communicate screen touches. If the app can be modded so that it allows you to navigate to more than just the appradio app then it would be perfect.
Someone that knows what they are doing should be able to mod the app accordingly and unlock the true potential of this device.

I'm sure they will hear the complaints and make Appradio 3 or 4 better. I will definitely give it another try then. The lack of compatible android apps is disappointing.
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The 'appradio2' from pioneer is just starting and is getting more and more android fans every day.
Altho this is a device with great potential, the user experience is indeed a little dissapointing.
Where should I begin?
Well, first the SPH-DA100 officially only supports android 3.2 and not even all phones running it too (a list of compatible devices is @ the Pioneer website)
I successfully connected my Galaxy Nexus i9250 (running ICS 4.0.4 since this weekend) and it works!
The perfect picture for this device should be when you can control your whole phone from the screen of the appradio. For now, only approved apps can be controlled.
I follow MKVFTW when he says that someone who knows what he's doing should rewrite the apk. but for now we can only wait for Pioneer to make another version.
I do not doubt that Pioneer will wait for an appradio 3 or 4 to make things better
The current hardware can handle it.
Or does everyone here buys a new phone when the next android version comes out???
I managed to get a custom background wallpaper on the device, that is a start isn't it?
*link not allowed yet --> search youtube for appradiomodder
Let's keep going where our apps take us !!
Cheers!

I already got rid of mine. It barely worked, such a waste.
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Sorry to hear yours broke;
Mine works pretty good tbh. It rarely crashes and when it does, it only takes 20 secs. and the app restarts itself.

Bluetooth never worked from the second I opened the box. I'm using a compatible phone as well.
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I'm currently looking in to the apk.
Seems like there a lot of things there wich aren't even active for the moment.
So I think a version 1.0.3 is coming soon
According to Pioneer the app manufacurers shoud update their apps to be compatible with the sph-DA100. I don't understand this.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible to connect a bluetooth mouse + keyboard to your android phone? (I did this ages ago allready on my Pocket-pc)
A touchscreen (even multitouch) works by the same principals no?
I think Pioneer's it-devision is taking things to far at once and they should re-think the whole app. I'm not that experienced with coding (I'm a modder, not a creator), but from Android 3.2 and up (when the device supports mhl or hdmi out) the procedure call for android.permission.BLUETOOTH and android.permission.EXTSCREEN is the same for all devices right?
Hawt tip for any Pioneer engineer happening to stumble on this thread::
Take any android 3.2+ device with HDMI/MHL out
Connect this to a tv using HDMI/MHL to HDMI cable
Take any bluetooth mouse and connect it to your phone (might need a FREE driver app on older phones)
Take any bluetooth keyboard and connect it to your phone (might need a FREE driver app on older phones)
Enjoy manipulating ALL APPS + PHONE GUI on your tv
Cheers!

They currently have something interesting going on in the apple camp with Appradio Extensions 2.0
Appradiomodder, you are correct with the bluetooth. Most if not all android devices now adays support bluetooth devices.
The apk does what it should do when it comes to sending touch commands through the receiver screen to the phone via bluetooth. The problem is that the apk restricts it to certain locations.

That looks promising
But I noticed its for the appradio 1 not 2.
Respect for the guy's work tho! That requires a bit more skills than modding..
I'm not quite sure yet if its the appradioapp that does the restrictions. It could also be an extension is needed from the 'approved app'
I'm gonna check the apk's Carmediaplayer and Carkeyboard this weekend.

I feel it could be both. When you are at the appradio home screen and try to pull down the notification bar it wont do anything, yet in the app on the phone you can pull down no problem.

I found out a couple of things:
It is not possible to make the phone GUI work with the appradio for now. for that to work, a new AppradioApp should be written.
The approved apps contain extra code(smali) wich tunnel the received info (Location info, Parkinginfo, touchlayer info, ...) from the radio and translate that to the app itself.
The approved apps contain extra permissions to communicate with the appradio/-app
If any experienced programmer would want to have a look at this, I'd be happy to share what I found out allready.
- Background picture can be customized (only in app mode)
- ANY app can appear in the approved apps list on the radio and they CAN be started by pressing the radio's screen
The search goes on...

Appradiomodder said:
- ANY app can appear in the approved apps list on the radio and they CAN be started by pressing the radio's screen
The search goes on...
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Can you expand on this? Simply starting an app from the appradio 2 is one step closer.
The MAIN thing i need/want right now is google music. That is my primary source of audible goodness. Everything else is fine that is stock for me. I just figured it would be the easiest route to mirror.

Does anyone use the Peel IR App?

I find it pretty much useless.
It doesn't support my system (I use Windows Media Center and its remote). It doesn't offer a TV Grid. It tries too hard to guess what I want to watch when my viewing patterns are kind of unpredictable.
I tried it on my father's system and it didn't know his TV either. (He also has Media Center - but uses a real TV, so double fail - I watch TV on my computer montor, so I don't have a TV).
Peel doesn't seem to have any way to learn a new remote - and repeated emails to the company that makes it has resulted in no replies at all.
The IR remote capability was one thing that excited me about the Note - now I'm feeling a bit disappointed by the weak software they included.

TheWerewolf said:
I find it pretty much useless.
It doesn't support my system (I use Windows Media Center and its remote). It doesn't offer a TV Grid. It tries too hard to guess what I want to watch when my viewing patterns are kind of unpredictable.
I tried it on my father's system and it didn't know his TV either. (He also has Media Center - but uses a real TV, so double fail - I watch TV on my computer montor, so I don't have a TV).
Peel doesn't seem to have any way to learn a new remote - and repeated emails to the company that makes it has resulted in no replies at all.
The IR remote capability was one thing that excited me about the Note - now I'm feeling a bit disappointed by the weak software they included.
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I have samsung TV's and Direct TV and it works very well. Do not use it all the time but every time I have gone to use it I have had no problems. I have two rooms set up on it for two different systems.

I happen to have a Samsung LED TV that it works on..
So along with the Samsung Remote, and Unified Remote apps the Note 10.1 its my new remote for my home theater!

Works for me too for our living room system and mancave system. Although, it isn't necessarily a replacement for the Logitech Universal remotes I have.

I didn't think I'd use it (I have Google TV boxes) but I've started using it for the programming guide. I have a couple different TV brands and it works with all of them. It also works with my Yamaha, Denon, and Onkyo receivers and multiple different Motorola cable boxes. It's not very intuitive but it's pretty cool once you figure it out. And you can set what categories it displays to minimize selection clutter.

I was really disappointed with this app as it first will with a sky satellite box in the UK. I emailed the developer who replied after a couple of weeks to say that it is for American and Canadian users only at present and they are working hard on an international version....thanks Samsung for marketing this somewhat useless app for most of the world.
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It rules. Cause my kids don't know it's me controlling the tv so I get to mess with them
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works just fine with my home theater setup... Mitsubishi HDTV, Onkyo receiver, Panasonic BD player, Comcast box.
The original version of Peel was kind of basic, but they upgraded it recently to include channel controls and whatnot, so it's a bit more useful than it was.
Do I use it? No, not really. I know when and what I want to watch, so it's more of a "look at what my tablet does!" feature more than anything. It's neat and all, but yeah, just no real need for it.

I tried using it but it will not work with my Dish Network sat box VIP 722. sent email to developer but got no useful help.

I love it. On time warner with a Mitsubishi TV and Yamaha surround sound. Use it about 75% of the time I'm watching TV
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fella1 said:
I tried using it but it will not work with my Dish Network sat box VIP 722. sent email to developer but got no useful help.
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That is because that box works with uhf signals for the remote if im not mistaken. If that is the box for dual rooms. It should work with the primary tuner however.
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rap6388 said:
I have samsung TV's and Direct TV and it works very well. Do not use it all the time but every time I have gone to use it I have had no problems. I have two rooms set up on it for two different systems.
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Itchiee said:
I happen to have a Samsung LED TV that it works on..
So along with the Samsung Remote, and Unified Remote apps the Note 10.1 its my new remote for my home theater!
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Well, I'd be pretty surprised if it didn't support Samsung TVs and components since it's included on - you know - a Samsung tablet.
That being said, I guess what's bothering me is the lack of any way to 'train' the remote. There are very few other remote TV apps out there.
It's one of those cases where if you have a TV or system they support, live in the right country and find their approach to TV good, it's a good app. If any of those are false, it's pretty much useless. I'm also kind of disappointed by the terrible customer support Peel seems to offer.
Ah well, time to dig into the kernel code and see if I can write something a bit more generic and easier to use - with remote training capability.

TheWerewolf said:
That being said, I guess what's bothering me is the lack of any way to 'train' the remote.
Ah well, time to dig into the kernel code and see if I can write something a bit more generic and easier to use - with remote training capability.
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Sounds interesting. I originally thought I could clone other remotes or whatever. But peel just scans through its own data base of codes. Which seems to be limited.
Have you tried mentioning the limitation on the playstore review? I see alot of developers quick to respond up there.

crystalstylez said:
That is because that box works with uhf signals for the remote if im not mistaken. If that is the box for dual rooms. It should work with the primary tuner however.
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yes it is the box for dual rooms and I set the primary receiver to use IR but it didn't work. I have read about the problem on other websites also. Not sure why the developer hasn't updated the software to fix the problem yet.

I find it pretty useful. Works on my TV (vizio) & with my cable box (cable vision/io, scientific Atlanta is the brand).
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demandarin said:
Sounds interesting. I originally thought I could clone other remotes or whatever. But peel just scans through its own data base of codes. Which seems to be limited.
Have you tried mentioning the limitation on the playstore review? I see alot of developers quick to respond up there.
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Definitely worth a try...

I see a lot of people are using this, but I got nowhere with it. The first thing it tried to do was turn on my TV. It's a Toshiba flatscreen (only a couple of years old) and didn't work. It prompted me to send a message to the developers. Okay, great. But then it didn't prompt me to do anything else, and I can't figure out how to get it to do anything else. I'd like to try to get it to turn on my receiver or Time Warner cable box. Or use the guides everyone's talking about. But I can't get past the "turning on the TV part."
What am I missing?

i have an Olevia 537H that it was giving me some problems with. the first code it sent worked, or so i thought, but then i couldn't change the source, up/down onthe channels, so i reset it. this time i skipped the first one that turned the tv on, and the next code that worked i went with it. works flawless now, source, etc. i don't necessarily like the scrolling through the shows on because it seems to "grip" the screen past the show i want, or go back one, but it works pretty decently. my remote for the tv sucks so this gives me what i need.

TheWerewolf said:
I find it pretty much useless.
It doesn't support my system (I use Windows Media Center and its remote). It doesn't offer a TV Grid. It tries too hard to guess what I want to watch when my viewing patterns are kind of unpredictable.
I tried it on my father's system and it didn't know his TV either. (He also has Media Center - but uses a real TV, so double fail - I watch TV on my computer montor, so I don't have a TV).
Peel doesn't seem to have any way to learn a new remote - and repeated emails to the company that makes it has resulted in no replies at all.
The IR remote capability was one thing that excited me about the Note - now I'm feeling a bit disappointed by the weak software they included.
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I use WMC as well. Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.MarkusGehlhaar.MCC&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImRlLk1hcmt1c0dlaGxoYWFyLk1DQyJd
it frigging rules on Android for controlling WMC!

Yup. I love messing with people in our house... LOL
TIP:
1. Turn on TV and set it to a channel with no signal, i.e. grey screen.
2. Turn it off.
3. Place the remote on the table or anywhere someone can see it.
4. Hide somewhere.
5. Turn on the TV using your amazing Samsug GALAXY Note 10.1.
6. ???
7. Profit!

[Q] Extra S2 skyrocket. Uses?

I upgraded to the S3 a month or so back so I have a 4 month old S2 that I'm looking for uses for. I have nobody to give it to and don't really need/want to sell it yet, so I've been researching non phone uses for it. Maybe a streaming cam for home security, a media pc (with external storage of course), something along those lines. Any ideas?

One use: you can use it to test out roms and kernels without fear of damaging your only phone. I'm sure it'd help a dev out if they knew that their rom caused issues, and you have a phone to fall back on.
I'd be doing the same but AT&T bought my SR.
Stock ICS on my S3

Make a cell-bot!! ... I'm into robot things.. so it interests me. Then you could use the cell-bot for the home security. (recording.. and put a tazer on it) or make one of these YouTube Link but with the skyrocket interfaced somehow..
I would do it.. but just don't have the time.. I have a first gen Nao robot (from my university) that I code on. Mainly python or C++. Takes too much time lol
Sly's use is a good one too.. could always use people that aren't afraid to load up a fresh build and report non-bias info.

I assume that it will no longer have a sim card so, wifi only. I'm a little strange, I use my SR for about everything but a phone. I do use mine as somewhat of a HTPC at home. I have it on the nightstand connected to tv which has a small surround sound system. From there I use it for: clock, online streaming (hulu+, netflix, youtube, tedtv...etc.) music and movie streaming from main HTPC, downloading music and movies (faster than my home pc on same wifi). I also use Splashtop which controls main HTPC giving me all the functions of my computer.(tv tuner card and recordings web browsing, documents, printer) remotely with video and sound, So simple explaination: It's my Tv, stereo, clock, htpc for my bedroom. Although I have an MK802 that works pretty well, I'm getting the MK802 iii in a few weeks which will do all of this and be remotely controlled from my phone. Oh yeah I use it as a pc remote control also. These are just the home uses.
But, you could also donate it to a good charity. The "davietr" charity foundation. LOL!

Attach it to a rocket and make it skyrocket!
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Turn it into a baby HTPC
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sly-tendencies said:
One use: you can use it to test out roms and kernels without fear of damaging your only phone. I'm sure it'd help a dev out if they knew that their rom caused issues, and you have a phone to fall back on.
I'd be doing the same but AT&T bought my SR.
Stock ICS on my S3
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Doing that with CM10 nightly's as of this morning :good:

Brad.S. said:
Make a cell-bot!! ... I'm into robot things.. so it interests me. Then you could use the cell-bot for the home security. (recording.. and put a tazer on it) or make one of these YouTube Link but with the skyrocket interfaced somehow..
I would do it.. but just don't have the time.. I have a first gen Nao robot (from my university) that I code on. Mainly python or C++. Takes too much time lol
Sly's use is a good one too.. could always use people that aren't afraid to load up a fresh build and report non-bias info.
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I'd LOVE to make some kind of surveillance bot (think rover, tank bot thing) but although I'm in a very experenced in building eletronic things my coding skills are lacking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IraaIvwi0

Give it to Adam Outler so he can figure out an Unbrickable Mod for this phone. It would serve the community in a huge way.

Brad.S. said:
Make a cell-bot!! ... I'm into robot things.. so it interests me. Then you could use the cell-bot for the home security. (recording.. and put a tazer on it) or make one of these YouTube Link but with the skyrocket interfaced somehow..
I would do it.. but just don't have the time.. I have a first gen Nao robot (from my university) that I code on. Mainly python or C++. Takes too much time lol
Sly's use is a good one too.. could always use people that aren't afraid to load up a fresh build and report non-bias info.
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This crossed my mind as well, I was going to make a quad-rotor using the s2 as the I/O controller. It has the perfect setup, all the sensors minus a ground proxsinity sensor. Wiring it all up is no problem, the problem lays in my lack or programming knowledge.

I knew I had seen that one in the video somewhere... but couldn't understand what he was saying
http://www.brookstone.com/rover-remote-control-spy-tank-for-ipad
If I had my hands on that one I would tear it apart and put an Arduino in it (personal preference for building bots -- and simple to use)
Wish I knew more about interfacing a phone with this type of hardware application.
I know the cell-bots website has *some* info..

Brad.S. said:
I knew I had seen that one in the video somewhere... but couldn't understand what he was saying
http://www.brookstone.com/rover-remote-control-spy-tank-for-ipad
If I had my hands on that one I would tear it apart and put an Arduino in it (personal preference for building bots -- and simple to use)
Wish I knew more about interfacing a phone with this type of hardware application.
I know the cell-bots website has *some* info..
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Ive read up on Arduino some time back, looks like lots of people were thinking along the same lines as I. First thing i'd do with that thing is replace the cam with a better one, maybe a servo to enable some movement of the cam, also pull out those motors and put in some brush less higher torque ones. I'd be willing to buy one of those bots (pending some research) and modding it with the s2 as an on-board interface if anybody has any knowledge of programming. I think it would be a good project for the community.

I need a new SR.....digitizer broke on mines... haha
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I think I found a project for the s2...
http://code.google.com/p/arducopter/wiki/ArduCopter

I do have mine as my backtrack Linux desktop computer.
And as my netflix viewer.
This was with my CM9 setup, since moving to CM10 a couple of weeks ago, haven't tried any of that yet.
Heeter

Heeter said:
I do have mine as my backtrack Linux desktop computer.
And as my netflix viewer.
This was with my CM9 setup, since moving to CM10 a couple of weeks ago, haven't tried any of that yet.
Heeter
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I'm going to try that tonight, i'm running cm10 now also.

Tv out?

Is there a way to display the phones screen on the tv?
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Hmm a bit behind times are we?
Depends on what roms your running for 1.

Ultragen rom has TV out. I tried it, was going to use my phone as a smart TV function to see xbmc movies, and doesn't work for me. Maybe not the right cable.
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What about on stock? Right now I'm on galaxy beam
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It works on stock.

Could we get someone with a little knowledge to elaborate on this topic? I've been trying to get tv out my phone for two years. The ONLY rom I've ever been able to get it to work with is Ultragen. I don't like ICS though. Does anyone know of a BML rom in which tv out will work? Does anyone know WHY it matters what rom you have? Or maybe how to change something somewhere to make it function properly? I would LOVE to be able to get it working on Valhalla Final.......

I keep hearing ....its a matter of the right cables....I've purchased several cables at different price ranges...and hooked them up multiple ways and the best I've managed to get is a very distorted partially visible snowy screen with audio.
And that's with every rom.

From what I understood is it works on CM9, but there is a green line when you change the rotation.

Alternatively, if what you want is to display pictures or videos from your gallery on TV
and assuming you have Smart TV hooked up to your router. You could use iMediaShare
app, (or any DLNA capable app in the market) it works wonders, to stream any video
or pictures from your phone (or youtube) to your TV. Without the hassle of cables
and such.
Besides, I used RCA cables before with our phone, and picture quality is (outright) crap.

Thanks all for the input. Smart TV, which I just purchased anyway, is a pretty good option.
My main interest in the feature was the ability to play emulators from my phone on the tv.
I read a post FBis251 wrote about being able to sync your wiimote to your smartphone so you could use it as a controller for your emulators.
Not too big a deal, as I don't travel often, it would just be neat.
Once again, thanks for the input all.

Shortbus-Driver said:
Take the TV out cables you have and shove them as far up your ass as you can....we r all sick and tired of your babble.....and now your spamming dev threads with telling devs their rooms are incomplete becuz they don't incorporate TV out for you? You are such a dumbass
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I wish I could help you but I'm still hurt from the last time I touched on the subject
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Wow dude that was an old pm and I even apologized for that....and now almost a year later if not longer your going to pop this out from your pm?
And I had even supported you a few times after that lol.
And yes at that time you were spamming the dev threads with....."your rom is incomplete"....which was very uncool.

Haha, this is too funny. Man, talking about holding grudges. I guess the man doesn't forget easily.:thumbdown:
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Can we try to get back on the track of the hows and whys of this feature?
As in why? doesn't the feature work...
and how? could I, an average American with a little bit of itelligence and common sense, fix it?
I'm by no means trying to take away from what the devs do, it simply amazes me, but there has to be a way of getting the feature to work.
I would not go as far to say the roms are incomplete without the feature, as it wouldn't be used that often, but come on guys, how cool would it be to have a multi platform emulator on the fly!?!?

[email protected] said:
could I, an average American with a little bit of itelligence and common sense, fix it?
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Nope.
It works on GB. Go back to GB, stay on GB and use TV out.

@lumin30-I'm so sorry man. I just read your post and realized I forgot to thank you for your pm response. My bad my man.
I haven't figured it out on GB. I got it on the Ultragen, which I believe is ICS, so anytime I need the feature I just switch to my Ultragen backup.
Only downside is I haven't figured out how to get back to GB other than Odin, which really isn't a big deal either, just a little inconvient.

Tv out works on ics but has a green bar at bottom of screen in landscape but not in portrait. Here are instructions with pics and a link to a video. Make sure you select NTSC. For some reason default PAL. Also make sure your 3.5mm jack has 4 pins like the one in the pic.
http://www.careace.net/2010/07/28/how-to-use-samsung-galaxy-s-tv-out-feature/

Worth it to buy?

So I have that urge to buy something new and I've stumbled across the sony SW2 in my looking around and I was wondering if this would be worth it to buy? Those of you who have had one for a while, do you think I should get one?

I think it all depends on its use per the individual, it is very handy for me when I'm at work and in a meeting I can see who's calling and read messages etc and also when I'm on my motorbike also saves me having to pull out my phone to see whoa calling messages etc. I would say though if you have a Samsung phone then probably have a look at the gear
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look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2747483

If you can get it for less than $150, that's a decent price... However, there's LG's and Moto's watches coming out this summer if you can wait a few months - but those are rumored to be around $250.

spitfire2425 said:
So I have that urge to buy something new and I've stumbled across the sony SW2 in my looking around and I was wondering if this would be worth it to buy? Those of you who have had one for a while, do you think I should get one?
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Yes.

eirh said:
Yes.
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If you need a device to remote control your smartphone, then yes you should get it. If you are happy just taking your phone out of your pocket and using it, then you dont need the Sony Smartwatch 2. It is not an indepedent device. It can do almost nothing by itself, it is 99% dependent on your phone.
The best way to describe it is that it is a second screen to your smartphone. To be able to use it you must have your smartphone on you, at all times. It not autonomous working at all.

Hi all,
can this Sony SW2 keep the time by itself if I go running to the park and leave my phone at home? Just keep the time.
I know it would be more useful to take the phone in my pocket and probably try to have an Endomondo's Sports Tracker widget on the smartwatch.. does anyone knows about a good sports tracking app like Endomondo's ?
Thanks.

Sure, why not. It's only money.
I have had mine for 8 months and love it. I had not worn a watch in perhaps 20 years. (I'm a reformed pocket watch user.) If you like to know who is emailing and testing when it happens, covertly, it is great. There are other things it is great at too, but those are the #1 use. I like the color screen v.s. monochrome screens, but battery life suffers. Price is reasonable, relatively speaking, but if you are an Android user and have a little more $$, I'd wait until summer to see what the new Google based watches bring. They appear to be a step up. The only thing I'd wish for is voice transcription to reply to email or text and I believe that's coming in the Google OS watches.
spitfire2425 said:
So I have that urge to buy something new and I've stumbled across the sony SW2 in my looking around and I was wondering if this would be worth it to buy? Those of you who have had one for a while, do you think I should get one?
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Socotroco said:
Hi all,
can this Sony SW2 keep the time by itself if I go running to the park and leave my phone at home? Just keep the time.
I know it would be more useful to take the phone in my pocket and probably try to have an Endomondo's Sports Tracker widget on the smartwatch.. does anyone knows about a good sports tracking app like Endomondo's ?
Thanks.
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Yes it can. And your SW2 comes with Runtastic, which is pretty okay for me.

Sw1 can keep time only till it has battery or has not been switched off. If you switch it off or battery finishes, you need to connect it again with your phone to get time.
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i buy it but it was not good and have not worth to buy

I'm waiting for my SW2 FIFA Edition to use it mainly as a bike computer, but also because will allow me to receive calls with the phone on my pocket.
And it have a good price now.
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joaofsantosj said:
I'm waiting for my SW2 FIFA Edition to use it mainly as a bike computer, but also because will allow me to receive calls with the phone on my pocket.
And it have a good price now.
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Not on your Nexus it doesnt..... it doesnt have an answer call button, though theres a fix if you are rooted.
Also it has no speaker or mic so youd need a bt headset. Which can already be used to answer calls.

ngoonee said:
Not on your Nexus it doesnt..... it doesnt have an answer call button, though theres a fix if you are rooted.
Also it has no speaker or mic so youd need a bt headset. Which can already be used to answer calls.
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Naturally, I have a BT headset. I've been using them since they exist.
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joaofsantosj said:
Naturally, I have a BT headset. I've been using them since they exist.
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Note that you cannot answer from the watch, in any case, using a galaxy nexus.

ngoonee said:
Note that you cannot answer from the watch, in any case, using a galaxy nexus.
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Really? And why do you think that?
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joaofsantosj said:
Really? And why do you think that?
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Because the calling app that Sony offers to you onli offers the 'answer call' button on Sony phones. Unless you move it to the system partition, which requires root.

briannaharbor said:
How is it possible you joined six years ago, but only have five posts??
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LOL It's a fair question, I joined this forum when I have a Qtek 2200 (made by HTC and also known under the brands XDA, O2), and after a Qtek 2020i, and used this forum just to get some informations. When this devices become obsolete I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5830 but I didn't like the Froyo GUI so I change to iOS devices that aren't supported here. But since a few months ago I become tired of it, always the same and without big changes, and planned to switch again to android that had a big improvement since froyo and its know more appealing to use.
One of the thing that I found out immediately was the different ROM's available to install, and I have been playing with them in my devices.
So it's natural that now I had reasons to post, to clear my doughts.
I don't use to write just to make number, I hope that you'll be clear.
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ngoonee said:
Because the calling app that Sony offers to you onli offers the 'answer call' button on Sony phones. Unless you move it to the system partition, which requires root.
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I see in the call extension app description that "answer call" is for Xperia Only. I have a rooted HTC One M8, but I did not move the app to the system partition (I doubled checked just to be sure); however, I can answer calls with my Sony Smartwatch 2. Not sure if it is because I am rooted or not, but I wanted to pass along my experience with my phone and the call extension app in question.
Rob

I've found that the lack of a 'Call Accept' button is not a major deal breaker for the Call Extension program. Wired or BT headsets have the action button, so the SW2 is still good. PLUS, with the recent upgrades to the core program, it's perfect to setup for a 'idling watch-face' that contains the pertinent information that I need.
Remember, the watch will allow you to tuck the phone back into the pocket or holster and leave it there. I myself enjoy starting an album as I leave the house to catch my bus for work, then just use the SmartMote Extension to change the song or tweak the volume on the sly.
Oh, and with the phone settings extension I found, I can cut the phone's Wi-Fi when I leave a well, so it doesn't draw extra power looking for a connection - without going fully into the watch apps, because it's latext update puts a shortcut directly into the watch-face itself!
Yeah, I'd recommend getting this watch, if you need a new watch. Once you have it, you find reasons to have it.... (Not the least, because it reduces the need to turn on the phone every five minutes to check it.)