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Android is closer for tornado than many other devices

Thanks to the efforts of some to port linux to the tornado, a basic linux kernel is in the works. So, therefore we tornado owners are one step closer than many other debice owners in getting android. The only problem is that the project seems like it is abandoned or at least VERY slow moving. I am not a developer(at least not linux) and so I can not help the development. It would be very invigorating if this community's people can help this person work through their problems to gain praise from all of us incapable of doing so. Please visit the developer's site for more info.
http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html

you do know that you ahve posted something that we already know right?? and yes that project is dead, but that dosnt mean other members here on the tornado forum's havent playd around with linux make a search next time.

I realised that people knew about it, i did do a search. I know there is GPE and other stuff already on the tornado; this was just a call for developers to pull efforts together to develop a common kernel and build an android rom for the rest of us that can't do so ourselves. None the less, thanks for your concern.

Even if people get Linux working stable on tornado, there is not much chance of Android ever running on it.
Android is way too touchscreen oriented right now.

wrong there is an android stack for non touchscreen devices

Development Coming Soon? (AndroidSpin Posted My Article, Skilled Dev Willing to help)

I've been trying my hardest contacting many people to get development started with this phone. Since not many Experienced Devs would be looking the way of this phone i've been trying to reach out.
I Contacted AndroidSpin as well and they are very well known android news site (which i check everyday) and managed to get an article out about helping with development with our phone (awsome, thanks AndroidSpin!) See the Article Here
Hopefully in the Near future we will have a working recovery and ROMs/Mods/Themes Rolling out. A Very experienced Dev has Contacted me Back Saying he is Willing to Help but nothing is promised as he doesnt have a Sidekick 4G at hand. But he is willing to make a working recovery for us so lets see what happens .
He will Definitely need testers.. i will be one ofcourse hope others are interested in seeing development stir up over here aswell !

nice to hear about.....i have been checked this 4rum everyday to looking for a news but still......hopefully something will come out soon....:x im willing to be the tester for this as well.....

I just want to say thank you to all of you working on this. As a former Hiptop user and open-source enthusiast, I took issue with the closed platform that Danger had installed on it and ended up ditching it. When I heard the new Sidekicks would be running Android I jumped at the chance to have one, only to find out that development was lacking interest due to the stigma of the old Hiptops as phones for teenagers. It's wonderful to see more people getting interested in this and I hope to help as much as I can in the future. Thank everyone again and happy hacking to you all!

willing to help
I'm very interested in getting development going for this phone as well, I don't have the time or the skill set to cook roms myself but I am more than willing to test and give feedback. I know a lot of devs aren't interested since they spent last year with the galaxy s line of phones and there are new dual cores to play with, but I think this phone is really unique and could definitely have a big following because of the fact that it is soo different than the sea of slabs out there. I hope development picks up, there are plenty of custom roms out there already built for the galaxy s line that would only need to be tweaked to work with this device so hopefully that picks up soon.

I'm very interested in helping with development, came from the G1 and had fun with that. I was trying to figure out how to compile ClockworkMod but because Samsung uses initRamFS rather than a regular makefile, I was unable to figure it out. I'm very open to testing and trying to help as best I can with developing on this phone, feel free to e-mail me if anyone has any need to test anything, I'm always checking my e-mail. sduvick AT gmail.com. For those who understand the compiling of clockworkmod, I would suggest working from the Vibrant version, as the buttons are all mapped right, we just need to add the storage driver so that the sdcard can be mounted.

I would love to be a tester please keep me posted.
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+Thanks.
I'm still stock and would be willing to help some dev's

Official: Palmdroid Development Thread (android app emulator for WebOS)

After speaking with some of you it has become readily apparent that while many people are comfortable waiting for a full android release for the HP Touchpad, there are also quite a few people out there that do not want to switch to a full android OS but simply wish they could have access to the vast app collection that android has to offer.
For these people I offer a solution.
Palmdroid​
The Palmdroid project is going to be an ongoing development project to bring a Dalvik like port to the Palm/HP WebOS operating system.
The goals of this project are as follows:
1) to offer a Dalvik port to WebOS that allows for android app emulation as if they were native WebOS apps much like Alien Dalvik on the nokia n900 or the app emulator of the blackberry playbook
2) Share useful information throughout development with the Touchdroid team as to help them reach their end goals and avoid conflicting and overlapping work as well as to foster collaboration and new ideas to speed the project along.
3)If possible (either worked into the project from the start or through later additions) provide the emulator as a download through the WebOS homebrew App catalog.
Now with the goals outlined I'll move on to how this is going to get going and what needs to happen next.
1) First and foremost... I need volunteer developers. If you have experience with Dalvik, WebOS development, Android development, UI development, C++, Java, Etc. I would like you to PM me with details regarding what you can help with. I have some java and C++ experience as well as a ton of web dev and project management experience but with alot of this I am learning as I go and if this is going to get done with any sort of speed I NEED your help.
2) I will be setting up communication channels for the dev team to discuss what needs to be done, share work, etc.
3) I will be setting up a web page (an extension off of my own since I can't finance purchasing another hosting account or domain name right now) where there will be regular updates on the status of the project as well as a section for the dev team as a repository for project related research, source code bits, group status reports etc.
Until the aforementioned steps are met this thread will be used to offer info, updates, and discussion related to development of Palmdroid.
I hope to have the support of the community here as we move ahead... i know I am new around here but I am very passionate about making this happen.
WebOS is a great operating system... and Android has some amazing apps... won't it be an amazing world when you can have both!
Palmdroid Coming Soon​
-Roto-rooter
PS. this should probably have been in the development section but apparently I can't post there because I am to new here so forgive me. If a Mod would like to move it and give me posting abilities that would be fine.

I subscribed to this thread even tho I have no WebOS devices at all. But I'm intersted in this project's work (I'm not a developer just a "hacker") as the same idea was proposed in the Bada section, too. It seems quite a lot of work to do this, as it's not enough to port dalvik itself, a big chunk of android has to be ported also to make it work. But it's an interesting project!

Agree! I don't want the entire Android OS ... All I want is the apps running on a webos emulator.

Great! Thanks! I'll be watching closely!
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while I probably cannot be of use for the development, I can be helpful for some other things. For instance, I am in the process of creating a logo for the project and also searching for possible devs. I will contact the touchdroid team and see what they think.

Brilliant Idea about starting the dev work
I would support this development and I am sure countless others who have just purchased $99/£89 HP Touchpads would do so. Once again thank you Robo-Rooter & Failhard to start this work.

Just got my 32gb Touchpad in the firesale. Really loving it so far. Having android apps on it would really top this device off. Good luck.

Have been using the touchpad for a couple of days and am amazed at the elegance and sophistication of the webos. Though an old android user ... I absolutely love the webOs interface.
Would love to see the palmdroid happen ... ALL THE VERY BEST GUYS ...
Thanks Robo-Rooter & Failhard for initiating this.

This would be absolutely perfect. I wouldn't want to ditch the WebOS but still be able to run Android apps.
You have my full support.

Great idea!
Great idea!

I have a droid (DesireHD) myself and comparing the droid's interface and webOS, I really like webOS. And looking at how the patches and O/C makes the whole tablet runs silky smooth, I really want an android app emulator. Current apps in webOS's catalogue is pathetic, but combining android's apps and webOS interface is the best one can get.

Subscribed. If I can't get the Android OS, an emulator would do nicely.
sent from my 7/23 iNfEcTeD EVO 4G

Yeah it will be great to those who want to keep WebOS

Subscribed.

I am a long time webOS enthusiast, and I am hoping that I actually get one of the 6 TouchPads that I ordered over the last few days. I think your proposal is the best way to go, and would be way more useful, and probably easier, than a full dual boot android port. I just wanted to list some resources here to bring to everyone's attention. While XDA is the most amazing collection of talented Android and WinMo hackers, you probably want to enlist the help of the aces that live and breathe webOS. Here is where to find them:
http://forums.precentral.net/ Definitely the most popular webOS forum. All the homebrew devs and hackers hang out here.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page This is where all the nitty gritty is documented in a Wiki. I have known some of the webOS internals guys since the day the Pre launched, and they are very talented.
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=webos-internals This is their IRC channel.
Also, if anyone has not seen it, they have already got Ubuntu, including window managers, and apps like GIMP and LibreOffice, running inside cards in webOS. This leads me to believe that the Palmdroid concept is VERY possible.
http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/292457-tutorial-how-get-ubuntu-touchpad.html
The nice thing is that lots of great auxiliary tools already exist to speed up the process, such as MetaDoctor for creating custom ROMs and Preware for downloading and compiling virtually any linux arm package.
Best of luck with everything. I am subscribing and will help where I can.

This is what I was waiting to hear!!! Let us know where to donate!

Notorious544d said:
This would be absolutely perfect. I wouldn't want to ditch the WebOS but still be able to run Android apps.
You have my full support.
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I agree with this 100%

+1 I believe this is the answer! Hope more people come on board!
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Subscribed, definitely want to know where this is heading.

as the biggest supporter of android on the TP, I've started to fall in love with webOS, not gonna lie. I would definitely support this idea. Its always great to have options!

Where do I start?

I want to start developing android applications, problem is, I only have skill with XHTML/CSS and very limited understanding of PHP/MySQL and JS. I was wondering if anyone had a tutorial guide or would be willing to teach me how to develop basic android applications and widgets. I have been looking for a solution for my business and can't find one app "to rule them all" so to speak. So, I thought since I am an avid HTC EVO user and going back to school next semester to finish my IT Degree in hardware and software development, maybe I could get an early start from one of the most educated communities one the net.
Please let me know if anyone can help or point me in the right direction, I would love to get this project underway ASAP!

If u get an answer let me know
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you can learn from forums just to be patient

same heere

1.5hz x2 Bricked
hi guys
tow days ago i flashed first time my htc sensation to InsertCoin 5.1.7 Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3 EPIC ROM, Iam happy phone is fast, good on battery ect.
But when i check-About phone/hardware/processor it shows:
1.5hz x2 Bricked
What does it mean? my sensation has 1.2hz double
is my processor broken? but everything seem to be working fine
cheers guys

First of all, questions go in Q&A forums, not general, so expect this to be moved by a mod.
Secondly, the information that you need is already on here. This question has been asked many times and answered.
Here's a link that will get you started with Android app development...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUOWNXGRc6g&list=PL2F07DBCDCC01493A&index=1&feature=plpp_video

Thanks for the videos!
Great starting point. Once I get a general feel for this platform, I am pretty sure I will need some expert assistance with the app. To give you guys a quick background:
I am developing this application to work with my business which is Computer Hardware Support. This app will be a BIG one, that I do NOT plan to sell as it will be a main component of my business. However, my customers, past, present, and future, will be able to download a version of this app on the market for free (donation optional), that will give them instant access to my business services. Anyone who is interested in joining the development team will be retained as an employee when I launch the business, if they choose to do so. So, helping with the development of this application has the potential to start or advance your career. PM me for further details as they become available.

New to Android ROM dev, have much kernel/driver development experience. Need protips

Hi, I started researching and messing with custom ROM/Kernel development 3 weeks ago. I've successfully compiled the kernel for my s5 neo Exynos 7580/MALI 200 (no hardware acceleration yet but I'm a kernel developer and reverse engineer so I can get that working given enough time, and have chosen all the apps I want to include in my first ROM. I made the ROM into and Odin flashable image and bricked my phone because I didn't adjust for the differences between the s7 and the s5 neo's power requirements. I bought 3 more S5 Neo's though, fixed the kernel, and all 3 devices have been 100% stable for 3 days with some minimal usage to test all the features. I am a kernel/driver developer, and as of now have taken over a dozen kernel MOD's from other people's kernels, and applied them to mine. There are more mods I could extract and apply, but I don't care to add them because I don't think they suit the goals of my ROM.
I would like to know things that aren't documented or easy to find that I will have to work with as I progress in the complexity of ROM development. So most of my ROM right now is apps I extracted from other ROMs and the play store and f-droid. But I am a coder and am working on my own settings app is suited for my ROM, including providing all the functionality of the root requiring apps I have installed now, also, I have about $80 of premium paid apps in my current setup, and want to put all the things they do into my custom settings app. I eventually plan on turning this into an android fork but for now, I'm starting out with baby steps to learn at a pace I can handle without overloading myself.
Please, any ROM/Kernel/App developers provide me any things you have learned from experience that I can't find on google and will be useful to know for my project.
Also, I have 2 questions. A) is UBER GCC better than Samsung eabi GNU compiler collection compilers?
B) Is deodexing really so good? because I've looked at the pros and cons and I don't think deodexing is worth the tradeoffs, but I feel like there's a reason almost every custom ROM does it. I know the tools to deodex ROM's don't work on Samsung android or other not AOSP based ROMS, but I already wrote a python script that deodex's my phone perfectly, I tried it, but I wasn't happy with the differences in response time and boot time and I believe it was causing a lot more memory to be used although I'm not sure why. Is deodexing better than I think it is, or is it just the cool thing to do for people who don't know how it really works?
Links, tips, polite criticisms, are all welcome. Also, this is my first post and I'm pretty sure these forums are the only place I can find people with the skill level to do these things well or at all.
I see some very knowledgeable people post here so I hope they find my post and reply with some tips. I tried the Freenode android channels and they are all plebs. They actually made fun of me for claiming I could make a custom ROM for this phone, they said it's impossible, and in 3 hours I had a screenshot of my about device showing my own compiled kernel running on my phone, no mods, just proof this been stuff is doable. Then I told them off about pretending to be experts but really knowing nothing and calling me a fool because they are too ignorant, then I left all 3 Freenode android channels and came here. In the channel for android ROM's and rooting, 99% of them were people who needed help rooting their phone or installing a custom ROM, not people I can learn from and grow to become a member of their community like I hope to do here.
if you didn't stop reading by now because of tl;dr, thanks for taking the time to read my post and please respond if you have helpful info. I've already read all the stuff I can find from google and these forums, I'm looking for the tips that aren't documented or that I may have written off as not important.
-zerorax, AKA Will O
Also if anyone wants to join forces to help me, I'm open to contributions and will give credit for them where it is due.