I've got a server pad off until the end of Feb 2010 and came up with an idea the other day that I wanted to run by the people who spend a lot of time building ROMs and apps for all of us. Let me preface this by saying I'm not trying to take anything away from XDA (I spend a lot of time here), but my idea can really put some money in the pockets of these guys that work so hard for us.
As I said, I have a server I'm not using (along with an installation of VBulletin). My idea is to give the developers a "home", where each has their own forum. Within their own forum they would have their own ads (from Google or whatever they choose), so that they had a real income from their work and not just hope that people donate money occasionally. Within their own section their would be a subforum where only they could post (explanation of releases, instructions, FAQ, etc), so that it wouldnt become a mess. A user feedback section, and a troubleshooting section........with all the user interaction still here at XDA.
I've also set up a download section for ROMs, Themes, Widgets, and Apps, where only developers could upload, but everyone could download....so that everything is in one easy to access spot.
Again, I'm not trying to take anything away from XDA....what I am trying to do is organize something that benefits all of us, by giving the devs a chance to make a little cash, while giving them a place to post their latest releases. I'm not doing this for my own gain (Other than trying to keep my sanity reading through 400 pages of bickering and redundant silly questions)
If any of you Devs are interested (and I've already talked to a few of you), hit me up by PM or email and I'll get you hooked up.
http://androidclubhouse.com
love this idea, this will probably relive the xda servers of some stress, ROM threads have an average of 1000+ replies also might give the mods a little less to worry about, thats right mods i see you trying to keep this forum organized and appreciate your efforts
triple bump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE
can average joes like me sign up or maybe i can be a moderator if you allow
Yeah, as I said my goal with this was two-fold. First I'm doing this as an idea to help these developers make some scratch (I'll give developers special access and have them open a Google Adsense account). That way these guys can get paid for their efforts.
The other goal was to start from scratch with a clean and managed place. There is a lot going on here, a lot of ideas, a lot of dialogue. What I want to do is give each developer a section, one forum where only they can post (info on the releases, FAQ, etc....without any comments from followers), then have a forum where followers can offers ideas and discuss the releases, then a third forum for troubleshooting (I'd like to find some way of marking issues as solved, then closing them, so people with similar issues arent digging through 400 pages looking for answers).
I have a downloads page, which I'd really like to use.....maybe we can just have all the pertinent downloads there linked to wherever they are saved, or I can host them.
So, in closing, I am not trying to replace XDA (I'm working on adding a link to it to the navbar), I'm trying to augment it. I have the server and software paid of til Feb 2010, so I'm hoping this will turn out to be a good solution and we can keep it going. As always, if you guys have ideas or questions, let me know.
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can average joes like me sign up or maybe i can be a moderator if you allow
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Absolutely....I'm just an average Joe. I am a computer hardware guy (used to own HardwareLogic, but sold it to deal with health issues). My wife bought me a G1 a couple of months back and I've not put it down since. I've been around here for quite awhile and recommend XDA to a lot of people (My last phone was a TMO Dash, which died a sad death when I fell and cracked the screen), I just dont post unless I have something to add to the conversation.
I really want to get people involved, I want to have a nice place, but a place with limited BS, and where things are kept on topic.
I'm onboard for any site that will keep the stupid posts/reposts/BUT HOW DO I DO IT? at bay. Not to criticize xda, but it has grown beyond the moderators abilities and it's just a mess.
I'm going to need help, but my thought was to generate a FAQ post for every thread, and then take the time to consolidate frequent issues we see into stickies, and lock them......so people can find the answers without digging through the BS.
I think we can do that by marking solved issues as "Solved" and locking the threads (then making them a sticky or creating a separate forum for them). By staying on top of that, things should work well.
YO hit me back. Just to chat. Your biggest fan, this is Stan.
To throw up very basic idea for recomendation of being in the design [if happens]:
In the comments on the rom section, make it so the comments can be seperated in category [like maybe side by side or something], like the biggest issue with forums is seperation with them is too seperate. People want to ask their problem with the rom where more viewers are. Its nature. Feedback and Troubleshooting. Thats what I would suggest. Then its simple organization method that keeps the roms clean for the developers to get a good idea whats wrong and how to perfect. Random problem posts in 1 page probably has 7 problems, 3 with response to helping, and 2 for feedback. How to see whats going on. Keep it clean so people can see exactly what they are getting and how to do it, thats key. Make no assumptions about people, think no one knows anything, and make it based on that.
Just a suggestion for [anything] in the future.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3807449#post3807449
we need to consolidate, so far (the link above is for themes) i have seen 10 or more websites to try and put all of the downloads. its a wonderful idea. but if it is to be implemented, we will actually need EVERYONE's attention, and get one site with everything.
it sounds like a good idea, it'll be nice if it can be implemented for a quick place to find useful links. I have so many bookmarks because everything is so scattered on different sites and forums it'll be good to have it all together
I will be working on this all night and tomorrow. Those of you that are developers, sign up and let me know who you are by pm or email. Once I hear from you I will set up your section and give you all the acess.....then we can work on the ads for your section and let you focus on your work.
I will need a couple people to help me watch over things, so some of you senior members hit me up as well if interested.
As to breaking down the sections...here is what I did.....only the developers can post in the rin the ROM release forum, but there is an attached forum where peopele can share ideas and make comments, and an attached troubleshooting forum...well go from there.
As to the downloads page I have it sectioned, so everything should be easy to locate...kind of a one stop shop.
Once we get people posting content, maybe we can come together and edit it down to a series of tutorials, FAQ. Guides, or whatever....one thing I would like to see is a list of all the terminal commands...kind of a glossary...as well as a glossary of terms users need to know to get started, both of those would cut down a lot on redundant questions.
I am watching a few movies with a friend, but later I plan on adding a front page, answering emails, and tinkering with the setup.....keep up with the ideas, and if you want to help out, let me know
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I think it sounds like a Great Idea!!! Get signing up Devs!! Make some more money other than your Donations!!!
Thats my whole point, my idea wasnt a forum to compete with XDA and other forums....but a place for the Devs to post/store their work without all the off topic and petty stuff that ends up being posted. There of course is discussion threads, but not mixed in with the ROM Release threads (Which only the Devs can post to).....there are separate discussion threads for bug reporting and ideas/comments.
Its all set up and ready to go, we just need the Devs to jump on. As soon as they get me some adsense code I will integrate it and they can start making some money from their own ads. Devs, help me help you..........
I also dont want to limit this to the ROM writers, if you have a tutorial, hack, app, widget, etc you want to post please let me know.
I am trying to get a glossary of terms built, as well as as many tutorials as possible, which should cut way down on repeat questions.
If there is a Photoshop Expert out thwere, hit me up, I need a nice logo put together for the site.
Looking good!
The site is looking good so far! I'm sure the devs are on their way!
How Many...
How many Developers are planning to give this a go?
I would also think that letting the rom devs have the ability to moderate their own respective threads if they so choose might be a good idea.
Separate out:
Q/A - general
Q/A - bug specific
Thank you
something to that effect.
I would design the website logo for free and moderate.
That's if you let me.
Rom Devs
ggolemg said:
I would also think that letting the rom devs have the ability to moderate their own respective threads if they so choose might be a good idea.
Separate out:
Q/A - general
Q/A - bug specific
Thank you
something to that effect.
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The Rom Devs are given the Ability to Moderate their posts as they wish, and thanks for the Q/A tips. Have you checked the site out yet?
Hey guys, I am happy that I am able to post this here after getting permission from the Admins! My name is Derek (aka viperboy on DF, Phandroid, and others) and I created www.froyoroms.com for Froyo ROMs and Froyo Development. I know there are already alot of forums for Android, but I wanted to give this a shot as this makes it easier for everything to be consolidated in one place.
I started this site up about 3 days ago so I don't have many users yet, but I'm looking forward to the site growing! It is completely free with no ads and you're more than welcome to just view if you want to even if you're not registered. I want to make it clear that I did this for the community, not to make money. I am not looking to compete with this site or any other site, it's just another place for Devs and Android enthusiasts to come together and enjoy all of the new ROMs and everything coming out with Froyo.
Speaking of Devs... I am looking to get some of you guys over there too! Again, I don't want to take you away from another site, but you have an open invitation to your own place over there. I can also provide you with...
Unlimited FTP storage
Your own board for you to moderate
A direct link to your board (example: www.froyoroms.com/developername)
your own e-mail address @froyoroms.com
As for the users, I ask you to please register over there, we would love to have you! As the site grows, I will also be looking for Moderators and I can provide you with storage space and your own @froyoroms.com e-mail as well. When that time comes, I will post more details about it in the Announcement section of my site.
If you have any questions, please let me know! Suggestions and feedback is greatly appreciated as this is my first website and forum and I believe that listening to user feedback is the greatest way to improve a site!
Again, thank you to XDA Admins and this site!
- Derek
I had some people register here after posting this thread. Just wanted to say thank you for registering! I'm working on some EVO how-to's and will get to the Droid how-to's hopefully tomorrow.
If anyone out there would be able to post how-to's (like rooting and recovery basics since there isn't much in the way of Froyo ROMs right now) that would be great! I am not familiar with all the devices so I could sure use some help!
Thanks again, everyone!
-Derek
i wanna help with evo
hi there thank you for launching that new site.. i just signed up for it... i have the new evo was interested in helping test out the 2.2... let me know pls would love to give a helping hand
Hi,
As you regulars know, we now have the official KJ6 release from Samsung, which means that we have a lot ROMs that are either leaks or based on the leaks. New users don't know what the naming scheme means, so they come to download and flash the leaks and then ask for help with them, which makes the regular users frustrated and sometimes they don't even get help.
What I'm proposing is that we create a new sub-forum in the dev section that has all the leaked ROMs with a proper title such as Old Leaked ROMs (unstable). Archival Purposes only. That way they'll know that they're only there for historical reasons.
Please help out the situation by reporting this thread, and picking the reason to be Other - Urgent. I've tried to get the mods to do this before but got no result, so I'm hoping that a group effort will convince them.
Send a report by clicking this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/report.php?p=20593094
Thank you for your time.
Sorry but we cannot have sub forums and separate forum for this or that
It has been tried in the Past and as usual just gets abused with all the wrong stuff
On that note
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Hi guys is there any chance this would happen? I know that the Galaxy S 4G has everything to support this. So anyone willing to develop a port. The S2 has already a working one so why not galaxy s 4g?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1407967
Wrong section :'(
No. back to general with !! ! Oh wait this is the 30th thread?
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I sometimes think that this is done on purpose. :/
-Sent From My Amazing SGS4G-
If this isn't a dev posting a working and bootable ICS for SGS4G then does this topic belong here? This been posted about a billion times in the right section of the SGS4G forum mind you. Use search function, post in old decrepit post about ICS, but please don't hog up the development section with this garbage. Important stuff belongs here like the roms that the devs here work so hard on only to be under appreciated by a bunch of sniveling children who didn't get their beloved CM7. Yes ICS got unwittingly dropped by the ever so greedy and scrooge like Samsung, who against Google's Open Handset Alliance, which promises a device would be supported for 18 months, has decided they are going to drop all galaxy devices period rather than provide official ICS. If you'd really like ICS then you'd best start donating. Money is tight for me right now but I know when my cash flow picks up my green backs are going to start moving in this direction.
You know what I've come to understand? A new user won't know how the regular users will want the forum to run. I made the same mistake myself and had a few threads moved out of the dev section. It's a dev question, so it could properly fit in the dev board.
You're just bumping the thread needlessly. Next time do what I did and just post a link to where the topic was discussed instead of ranting about how it's in the wrong section. Just report the thread and have one of the mods move it. It's much easier than having to take time out of your day to type up a long post talking about how pissed off you are about it.
Merry xmas everyone!
Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums and Read THIS
Moving to Q&A
As FBis said, links are the way to go!
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The title is self explanatory and to those newcomers who need an introduction or a basic understanding about Cyanogenmod (CM for short), here it is:
CyanogenMod is an aftermarket firmware based on the open-source Android operating system.
The Galaxy S7 Edge | S7 are great smartphones and they have really taken over the market in many ways but I'm here to talk about now and the future of these devices.
Samsung has been pushing updates at a stable rate so far and security has never been so much tighter with these monthly patches.
However after at least 18 months both of these devices will no longer receive software updates. And software is what helps keep these devices going on the long run.
End-of-life dates for the S7 Edge | S7 are already set privately by Sammy and ready to be applied in the near future.
Cyanogenmod is the gateway of... let the term for now be: "afteruse".
CM being the gateway of afteruse can boost the lifetime of these devices since they really deserve more time with their owners.
If you wish contributing in any way to help the message be heard then by all means visit this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/dev-request-cyanogenmod-13-g935f-t3382412
Fevax is willing to port Cyanogenmod 13 for the Galaxy S7 Edge G935F and when a working build is up and ready he will start to port it for the Flat S7 G930F. A pledge is already being taken place at the above link and if you wish to invest for a working port then please do so it would mean a lot to the community. If you'd like to test the software at its early alpha stages your most welcome just visit the link and comment your intention.
As a side note this is a discussion thread so feel free to comment down below concerning what I've posted above or post about the subject at hand and your feelings from it and towards it.
Thank you and have a nice day.
EDIT: THE ORIGINAL CYANOGENMOD 13 DISCUSSION THREAD BY Fevax MENTIONED IN THE LINK ABOVE IS CLOSED.
I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do with this thread and what is different to the original thread you linked ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/dev-request-cyanogenmod-13-g935f-t3382412
sawdoctor said:
I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do with this thread and what is different to the original thread you linked ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/dev-request-cyanogenmod-13-g935f-t3382412
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I'm pretty much explaining why and how developing Cyanogenmod for the Galaxy S7 Edge | S7 can be fruitful. To attract owners and users of these devices and increase the popularity of the main thread by providing it's means and how necessary or important it is.
Also the developer might just appreciate helpful hands here and there with donations and alpha testers on the table of the development.
Thread closed at OP request