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I started this thread as a constructive and positive place for those of us that have recently lost our G1's or ADP's. I am going to document all my settings, Radio version, Firmware, Build info, etc here and hopefully reverse engineer this issue until I have an answer. If anyone has any hardware engineering information on this device it would be greatly appreciated. I'm even willing to host a private forum from my site to work on this.
Thanks everyone for your continued hard work and Haykuro, you're still the man!

-JFv1.43 RC9 firmware (just did this one update, not the radio update)
-1 GB micro SD which was deliverd with the phone
-Google's Developers Edition
-rooted
-sim ulocked
-almost fully loaded about 80 % battery
-everything went fine, the update went fine, restarting, and then no response and always and always the same android screen,
now im trying to crash it by low battery, not by just take the battery out, maybe this'll work (but I dont think so)
don't know anything else

Partioned Fat32/EXT2 1GB SDcard from t-mobile
Flashed RC29 via Bootloader .NBH file
Rooted with RC29
Updated to RC33
Flashed Hard SPL
Flashed JF v1.5 ADP Lucid MOD - did APPs2SD and Dalvik2SD
Flash 2.22.19.26I Radio
Flashed Grafitti Citrus Theme JFv1.50 Beta
Flashed H Special SPL with battery at 89% - saw it update, rebooted on its own, saw the chip with the arrow on it and it rebooted. once after that it hanged. I waited 5 minutes and then took the battery out. Got my sdcard reader, renamed the jf v1.5 to update to reflash like instructed. powered the phone with home+power and got nothing but a hang on t-mobile G1 screen.
Both phones were done the same. One phone bricked and one phone flashed the SPL.

I wonder if the Dream responds to goldcards like other HTC phones do...
That's how we fixed our Heralds, which is how the Elf's got their fix, etc.

ivanmmj said:
I wonder if the Dream responds to goldcards like other HTC phones do...
That's how we fixed our Heralds, which is how the Elf's got their fix, etc.
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Goldcard as in a specialized SIM?

d474rpr said:
Goldcard as in a specialized SIM?
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Goldcards as in a specialized SD card

d474rpr said:
Goldcard as in a specialized SIM?
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You convert a SD card into a Goldcard and the phone will read it and allow the phone to flash ANY NBH file, regardless of CID, etc etc.

MosquitoD4K said:
-JFv1.43 RC9 firmware (just did this one update, not the radio update)
-1 GB micro SD which was deliverd with the phone
-Google's Developers Edition
-rooted
-sim ulocked
-almost fully loaded about 80 % battery
-everything went fine, the update went fine, restarting, and then no response and always and always the same android screen,
now im trying to crash it by low battery, not by just take the battery out, maybe this'll work (but I dont think so)
don't know anything else
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This has happened to me many times when I didn't wipe (the PHONE ). Take the battery out, place back in and hold Home + Power to get into menu. Type alt + w to wipe, afterwards, alt + s to apply update.zip from sdcard, then Home+Back to restart. The first time loading, it can take up to ten minutes to get past the Android screen (mine took 7-10 minutes), so be patient.
Post back with any results.

ivanmmj said:
You convert a SD card into a Goldcard and the phone will read it and allow the phone to flash ANY NBH file, regardless of CID, etc etc.
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that wont work i just read the write up. In order for the goldcard to work, the g1 has to go into fastboot, which none of our devices can go into fastboot nor recovery. I even formatted a sdcard to start the process but when i got to the fastboot i was so disappointed.

One detail, when i flashed the new spl I was doing something else and when i check my phone it back to recovery utility windows itself ,it was in 15 20 minute, after that i reinstalle jf1.5 and all worked ok
what this means. if you are flashing your phone and before these process finishes your take out you battery, you can bricking you phone. take patience and wait.
Good luck
ps:i change the final text for sir*mez
sir*mez said:
that wont work i just read the write up. In order for the goldcard to work, the g1 has to go into fastboot, which none of our devices can go into fastboot nor recovery. I even formatted a sdcard to start the process but when i got to the fastboot i was so disappointed.
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satru said:
One detail, when i flashed the new spl I was doing something else and when i check my phone it back to recovery utility windows itself ,it was in 15 20 minute, after that i reinstalle jf1.5 and all worked ok
what this means. if you are flashing your phone and before these process finishes your take out you battery, you and only you bricking you phone. take patience and wait.
Good luck
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this happened to the one that bricked.
Flashed H Special SPL with battery at 89% - saw it update, rebooted on its own, saw the chip with the arrow on it and it rebooted. once after that it hanged. I waited 5 minutes and then took the battery out. Got my sdcard reader, renamed the jf v1.5 to update to reflash like instructed. powered the phone with home+power and got nothing but a hang on t-mobile G1 screen.
Both phones were done the same. One phone bricked and one phone flashed the SPL. So yes I guess I bricked one phone but a miracle happened with the other one. the one that flashed properly went into the recovery on its own right after the boot, but not in no 15-20 min wait like you said. you sure need to stop the blaming. i am not blaming anyone for my bricked phone, im just trying to find a solution. you are going to get this locked because of the bickering.

hey sir*mes was no my intentions blaming to anyone , i only want to say that all need to give more time to flash before take out the battery. only that.
i will do something for you , i will change the text, happy?
Good luck
sir*mez said:
this happened to the one that bricked.
Flashed H Special SPL with battery at 89% - saw it update, rebooted on its own, saw the chip with the arrow on it and it rebooted. once after that it hanged. I waited 5 minutes and then took the battery out. Got my sdcard reader, renamed the jf v1.5 to update to reflash like instructed. powered the phone with home+power and got nothing but a hang on t-mobile G1 screen.
Both phones were done the same. One phone bricked and one phone flashed the SPL. So yes I guess I bricked one phone but a miracle happened with the other one. the one that flashed properly went into the recovery on its own right after the boot, but not in no 15-20 min wait like you said. you sure need to stop the blaming. i am not blaming anyone im just trying to find a solution. you are going to get this locked because of the bickering.
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sir*mez said:
that wont work i just read the write up. In order for the goldcard to work, the g1 has to go into fastboot, which none of our devices can go into fastboot nor recovery. I even formatted a sdcard to start the process but when i got to the fastboot i was so disappointed.
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So what harm would it do to try? From what I remember the goldcard on herald was supposed to get us into the bootloader even when we couldn't normally.

Let me be perfectly clear, those of us with the issue of a bricked device from loading the SPL from Haykuro are experiencing an actual case of being bricked.
Read carefully.
The phone WILL NOT turn on!!!!
We are looking for a solution that runs as far back as actually burning the SPL image directly to the phone's memory. I am even willing to try a hardware to hardware method to accomplish this.
I know the phone is still somewhat responsive because my laptop detects the USB connection to the phone but it will not recognize the device.. obviously because the communication is broken since the phone is dead. The power LED will turn on but only after I remove the battery first. Once I press the POWER key the LED turns off and will not light again until I remove and replace the battery.
Solutions that we are trying:
GoldCard method.
Looks like a couple of us have tried this but since fastboot can't see the device then we can't use this method unless someone knows something super seceret.
Crashing the device by allowing the battery to fully discharge. Unlikely but trying anyway.
Any other ideas?????
Thanks everyone for helping thus far!

neoobs said:
So what harm would it do to try? From what I remember the goldcard on herald was supposed to get us into the bootloader even when we couldn't normally.
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I tried it and so far no luck...

neoobs said:
So what harm would it do to try? From what I remember the goldcard on herald was supposed to get us into the bootloader even when we couldn't normally.
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ok but the phone wont go into bootloader. which is what im trying to get it to do. if i get it to bootloader i know i can fix it. even if it went to the recovery i could fix it. but I get nothing.
in order to create a goldcard for the dream it has to read the sdcard off fastboot which i cant get into.

d474rpr said:
Let me be perfectly clear, those of us with the issue of a bricked device from loading the SPL from Haykuro are experiencing an actual case of being bricked.
Read carefully.
The phone WILL NOT turn on!!!!
We are looking for a solution that runs as far back as actually burning the SPL image directly to the phone's memory. I am even willing to try a hardware to hardware method to accomplish this.
I know the phone is still somewhat responsive because my laptop detects the USB connection to the phone but it will not recognize the device.. obviously because the communication is broken since the phone is dead. The power LED will turn on but only after I remove the battery first. Once I press the POWER key the LED turns off and will not light again until I remove and replace the battery.
Solutions that we are trying:
GoldCard method.
Looks like a couple of us have tried this but since fastboot can't see the device then we can't use this method unless someone knows something super seceret.
Crashing the device by allowing the battery to fully discharge. Unlikely but trying anyway.
Any other ideas?????
Thanks everyone for helping thus far!
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Are you saying your screen doesn't turn on?

neoobs said:
Are you saying your screen doesn't turn on?
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No, I'm saying it doesn't turn on.

d474rpr said:
No, I'm saying it doesn't turn on.
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The same happens on Heralds when the imgfs is messed up. To fix it, we force it to go into the bootloader mode and it does turn on. I wonder if it's something similar.

I meantioned in the big main topic an idea though I dont think anyone saw it.
In the past for other phones I was able to make recoveries using the computer while it was in the boot loop.
Anyone with the brick, try to see what happens when you do this:
adb remount
After the "T-Mobile G1" screen shows up. See if it says mount sucessful. I would try though it does not stay on the screen too long for me, not only that it might work for me just because it continues fine so its inconclusive.
If you get lucky and it says remount successful, you could try this:
adb shell recovery
I am not sure of the commands to follow from there, but it might allow you to flash a different update.zip file from the command line. If you get lucky like that, look up the commands and see how that might go. There has to be a way to communicate to the hardware when that screen comes up. Its good that that screen comes up, because it means its not 'fried' so to speak, it just has a misconfigured loader which doesnt have the correct set of instructions (good point about the different types of boards, thats most likely the issue) for THAT board. I would go back to the one that worked previously.

Evo Shift Stuck In Boot Loop Please Help!

Hello,
I have an Evo Shift stuck in the boot loop. As soon as I put the battery in all it does is reset itself to the screen with the white background and green "HTC" logo, and will keep restarting until the battery dies.
If I hold volume down and turn it on, it does go into the bootloader, but picking ANYTHING, such as recovery or factory reset, does nothing but sending it back to the HTC screen.
I have tried flashing the RUU.exe (2.27.651.2) through Fastboot USB and it completed successfully, but it just restarts right back to the HTC screen. I have also put PG06img that I found on here on the root of my card, and it will never load it up.
Are there any other solutions anyone can think of? They would be much appreciated. I see a lot of these threads for regular Evos, but not for Shifts.
The only other thing I really know about the phone is that it is:
S-On
Hboot- 0.98.0001
Radio- 1.08.00.0506
Thank you so much for all of your help!

Seems to me you aren't rooted and that's more than likely your problem, boot into fastboot and use the ruu application for gingerbread.
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Rooster85 said:
Seems to me you aren't rooted and that's more than likely your problem, boot into fastboot and use the ruu application for gingerbread.
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While I am pretty sure I am not rooted, if you are talking about the early RUU release; 1.17.651.1, the application starts and then ends up failing in the beginning of the process. Is this what you are talking about? The drivers should be all good, the application starts to flash and then dies though. Thanks!

samcrac said:
While I am pretty sure I am not rooted, if you are talking about the early RUU release; 1.17.651.1, the application starts and then ends up failing in the beginning of the process. Is this what you are talking about? The drivers should be all good, the application starts to flash and then dies though. Thanks!
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Use the new RUU. But make sure your SD card is formatted to a FAT32 partition. (Stock 2gig sd card and some other store boughts are not)
You can format on your computer and then place the RUU on the root of sd card again
(Bootloader won't recognize the ruu zip if not partitioned)
Sent from my Supreme Shift

notsointeresting said:
Use the new RUU. But make sure your SD card is formatted to a FAT32 partition. (Stock 2gig sd card and some other store boughts are not)
You can format on your computer and then place the RUU on the root of sd card again
(Bootloader won't recognize the ruu zip if not partitioned)
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Ok, I just did this, everything updated fine and all completeted on the bootloader. It then said "press power to reboot." I did so, and went right back into the same boot loop. Any other ideas. I figured running this, and the RUU.exe on the computer were the sure fire ways to get this thing working again???

samcrac said:
Ok, I just did this, everything updated fine and all completeted on the bootloader. It then said "press power to reboot." I did so, and went right back into the same boot loop. Any other ideas. I figured running this, and the RUU.exe on the computer were the sure fire ways to get this thing working again???
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So just a little information.
you said your not rooted?
So that means you have no ability to flash anything because you have no custom recovery and the bootloader isnt unlocked (S-on)
So what DID you do before it bootlooped? there had to have been something you were trying to do.
Not trying to blame anything on you at all just want to make sure we are helping the most accurate way possible

notsointeresting said:
So just a little information.
you said your not rooted?
So that means you have no ability to flash anything because you have no custom recovery and the bootloader isnt unlocked (S-on)
So what DID you do before it bootlooped? there had to have been something you were trying to do.
Not trying to blame anything on you at all just want to make sure we are helping the most accurate way possible
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No I hear ya. I was sold the phone fairly cheap and was told "all you need to do is to reinstall the RUU, that is all that is wrong." Obviously I was skeptical, but when I checked everything out, everything looked good, and again, for the price, I knew it was a gamble. That being said, I'm sure something was tried in order to modify the phone and this is how it got like this.
I have soft bricked my old Evo 4g a handful of times and an RUU or Rom flash would always solve the problem.
Anyway, there is no custom recovery, and I'm pretty sure theres no root because it is still "S-ON," I am just trying to see if anyone here has any more info before it goes in for repair.
The only last thing I would guess you MIGHT be able to do is to install a custom recovery, but is there ANY way to do this by just being in the bootloader and using FASTBOOT USB? Any more help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

samcrac said:
No I hear ya. I was sold the phone fairly cheap and was told "all you need to do is to reinstall the RUU, that is all that is wrong." Obviously I was skeptical, but when I checked everything out, everything looked good, and again, for the price, I knew it was a gamble. That being said, I'm sure something was tried in order to modify the phone and this is how it got like this.
I have soft bricked my old Evo 4g a handful of times and an RUU or Rom flash would always solve the problem.
Anyway, there is no custom recovery, and I'm pretty sure theres no root because it is still "S-ON," I am just trying to see if anyone here has any more info before it goes in for repair.
The only last thing I would guess you MIGHT be able to do is to install a custom recovery, but is there ANY way to do this by just being in the bootloader and using FASTBOOT USB? Any more help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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It shouldn't have a custom recovery if it shows s-on.
I don't see why the RUU wouldn't work.
Honestly it doesn't sound like a softbrick- sounds like its just bricked (Which ive only heard of 1 Shift getting bricked completley)

notsointeresting said:
It shouldn't have a custom recovery if it shows s-on.
I don't see why the RUU wouldn't work.
Honestly it doesn't sound like a softbrick- sounds like its just bricked (Which ive only heard of 1 Shift getting bricked completley)
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Make it 2! Thanks for your help though!!!

Also Stuck In A Bootloop
samcrac said:
Hello,
I have an Evo Shift stuck in the boot loop. As soon as I put the battery in all it does is reset itself to the screen with the white background and green "HTC" logo, and will keep restarting until the battery dies.
If I hold volume down and turn it on, it does go into the bootloader, but picking ANYTHING, such as recovery or factory reset, does nothing but sending it back to the HTC screen.
I have tried flashing the RUU.exe (2.27.651.2) through Fastboot USB and it completed successfully, but it just restarts right back to the HTC screen. I have also put PG06IMG that I found on here on the root of my card, and it will load it up (I'll see the blue loading bar and then the brown loading bar in the top right hand corner of the screen), but it then checks it again, and then goes back to the original screen for the bootloader.
Are there any other solutions anyone can think of? They would be much appreciated. I see a lot of these threads for regular Evos, but not for Shifts.
The only other thing I really know about the phone is that it is:
S-On
Hboot- 0.98.0001
Radio- 1.08.00.0506
Thank you so much for all of your help!
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I'm trying to resolve a very similar problem as him, but I know of the history of my phone (since I'm the only owner), so hopefully an answer for me can assist him also.
The Story: One day, I'm playing Uno HD (downloaded from Android Market). I toss out a Draw 4, and then I see: "Google Infrastructure Failure" and a Triangle with an exclamation mark. I reset the phone, and it starts up fine. Then a few hours later, my phone randomly restarts itself into the bootloader screen after trying to reload the home screen (because the memory manager is overly aggressive).
I see no HTC Screen. It goes straight to the bootloader without any input. If I plug it to the charger from an off state, the amber light comes on, and 10 seconds later, bootloader screen. With a battery, it appears automatically after 45 seconds.
Fastboot can read my memory card just fine. It's already been re-formatted as FAT32 in my pitiful attempt to try to repair it. It's checked and read a PG06IMG file I placed on the SD Card's root, went through the entire process of reading it, but it doesn't ask me if I want to upgrade. It takes me back to the original screen. (Maybe I'm loading the wrong file).
Recovery and Factory Reset immediately restarts the bootloader after showing me the skateboarding android splash screen.
I've also tried to flash the newest stock RUU for it. (2.76.651.4), but after the RUU sends the command to start up in bootloader mode, the phone shuts off. Thus giving me the connection error.
(Maybe if someone could rewrite the .exe file to not send out the command to begin loading as if it was in the bootloader screen, it could work. I'd pay for that.)
Other Stuff:
ROM: Stock Sprint Gingerbread OTA ROM. I've been living the vanilla life. No root access. No funny stuff. Just a stock phone with apps (Third Blade, Uno HD, ASTRO File Manager, ect...)
Directly from bootloader screen:
SPEEDY XA SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.98.0001
RADIO-1.08.00.0506
eMMC-boot
April 11 2011, 22:32:34
Is there a way we can flash a file from the SD Card which will turn off the security and/or temp/perm root it? (forgive my noobness for such a question)
EDIT: I'm referring to a way that's outside of the adb push method. My device can't be found, and the device won't get past the bootloader screen, so that method doesn't help me too much. However, I do have the ADK Installed and the ADB Command Line works fine.

Ok .. HERE'S THE SOLUTION:
First off all if your S- ON it means you are NOT rooted
If you get stuck in a bootloop .. don't worry it can be fixed.
What you need to do is download PG06IMG.ZIP and place it on your sd card, you can access your sd card by going into recovery then mount section, then usb. This will allow you to move the file from your computer to the root of your sd card.
Once you do this be sure you back up any info you don't want to lose. Once you have the file in place, go back to fastboot ( hold vol down and power) it will read file and when it asks you to update press vol up. It will take a few minutes to update this will revert your phone back to stock but if you have an old recovery it will not do a full restore, it will only update the rom.
Once you get your phone back to working, I recommend updating your recovery by downloading Rom Manager and flashing the latest clockwork recovery. This problem happens usually due to an old recovery.
One other thing you can try if you do NOT want to reset your phone, you can try flashing a new kernal.
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RUU won't work if your stuck in bootloop ..
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If you want to root your phone use visionary to temp root then use shift rr .. you can then flash a custom recovery which is essential to avoid this from happening again
flylike2kites said:
I'm trying to resolve a very similar problem as him, but I know of the history of my phone (since I'm the only owner), so hopefully an answer for me can assist him also.
The Story: One day, I'm playing Uno HD (downloaded from Android Market). I toss out a Draw 4, and then I see: "Google Infrastructure Failure" and a Triangle with an exclamation mark. I reset the phone, and it starts up fine. Then a few hours later, my phone randomly restarts itself into the bootloader screen after trying to reload the home screen (because the memory manager is overly aggressive).
I see no HTC Screen. It goes straight to the bootloader without any input. If I plug it to the charger from an off state, the amber light comes on, and 10 seconds later, bootloader screen. With a battery, it appears automatically after 45 seconds.
Fastboot can read my memory card just fine. It's already been re-formatted as FAT32 in my pitiful attempt to try to repair it. It's checked and read a PG06IMG file I placed on the SD Card's root, went through the entire process of reading it, but it doesn't ask me if I want to upgrade. It takes me back to the original screen. (Maybe I'm loading the wrong file).
Recovery and Factory Reset immediately restarts the bootloader after showing me the skateboarding android splash screen.
I've also tried to flash the newest stock RUU for it. (2.76.651.4), but after the RUU sends the command to start up in bootloader mode, the phone shuts off. Thus giving me the connection error.
(Maybe if someone could rewrite the .exe file to not send out the command to begin loading as if it was in the bootloader screen, it could work. I'd pay for that.)
Other Stuff:
ROM: Stock Sprint Gingerbread OTA ROM. I've been living the vanilla life. No root access. No funny stuff. Just a stock phone with apps (Third Blade, Uno HD, ASTRO File Manager, ect...)
Directly from bootloader screen:
SPEEDY XA SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.98.0001
RADIO-1.08.00.0506
eMMC-boot
April 11 2011, 22:32:34
Is there a way we can flash a file from the SD Card which will turn off the security and/or temp/perm root it? (forgive my noobness for such a question)
EDIT: I'm referring to a way that's outside of the adb push method. My device can't be found, and the device won't get past the bootloader screen, so that method doesn't help me too much. However, I do have the ADK Installed and the ADB Command Line works fine.
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Also if your phone can't be found its b/c you need to put it into diag mode .. ##DATA .. if you need more help google
tech-9 said:
If you want to root your phone use visionary to temp root then use shift rr .. you can then flash a custom recovery which is essential to avoid this from happening again
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For the thread starter, the person that sold you the phone probably tried writing to the system partition with s-on. Since you can get to the bootloader, see if you can get into recovery. If you can, recovery can be seen in adb, even the stock recovery. From there, gingerbread root, plenty of guides out there, make sure you flash the misc.img, download the froyo downgrade zip (that pgimg09.zip or something like that, just search for it, but not with the numbers I just gave, those are made up.)
From there either flash the gingerbread zip or ruu, and goon with a unrooted life. Or follow one of the many guides to froyo root, and live the life of the rooted. Your choice.
For the second person with a similar issue, the same method will work for you (assuming you can get to recovery), gingerroot, froyo downgrade, and since you like being unrooted, just ruu or zip back to gingerbread.
Solution found enjoy, and just think, if root hadn't been discovered for gingerbread, you would be screwed right now, make sure to thank otaking.

I have the same boot loop problem. I tried using the PG06IMG.zip file and fastboot/bootloader screen says I have the wrong image. It's most likely because it's for 2.2 and I have 2.3. I also don't have any recovery. Is there a PG06IMG.zip for 2.3 or the like?

similar problem here
i'm fairly certain i tried recovery with the wrong or corrupt or incomplete PG06IMG.zip on my first attempt. i got the right one from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255474
i ran it, says update installed, but when i reboot i still get the loop
from bootloader
SPEEDY XE SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
RADIO-1.07.00.1129
eMMC-boot
Nov 15 2010, 13:19:54

zdavidzz said:
i'm fairly certain i tried recovery with the wrong or corrupt or incomplete PG06IMG.zip on my first attempt. i got the right one from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255474
i ran it, says update installed, but when i reboot i still get the loop
from bootloader
SPEEDY XE SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
RADIO-1.07.00.1129
eMMC-boot
Nov 15 2010, 13:19:54
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Try downloading the zip again and re run it. Possibly a bad download?
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also adb is telling me device not found. i think i might have to factory reset. is that crazy?
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and... that didn't help

i'm downloading the zip again right now.
since i have s-on, will i be able to install it though?
i can get the file on the root of the sdcard with an adapter since i can't push from adb. and i can't temp root the phone because if i try a normal reboot i get this stupid boot loop. is there a way to get s-off through hboot on the phone?
i don't know why i didn't notice that first file was messed up, it was only 6MB.

[Q] Black screen on Start Up and Vibrates for about 2 minutes

hi,
Ive recently rooted my phone with no problems using the ace hack kit. i tried flashing the newest andriod revolution hd rom and was having problems with the superuser app force closing and the phone wasnt giving me root privledges. i decided to try and reroot the phone using the ace hack kit. (i realize this was my mistake). it stopped in the middle of the process. so i had to pull the battery. when i tried turning the phone back on the screen was black for about 6 or 7 mins. no vibrations or leds to indicate the phone was on. then the htc white screen comes on and the phone vibrates for 2 or 3 minutes straight and proceeds to come on. Ive tried to flash other roms using cwm recovery and itll load what ever rom i choose but i cant get into the hboot or anything and it does the the black screen everytime along with the vibration. is there anyway to fix this? ive tried over and over to boot into recovery through usb but it doesnt work.
so ive done a little research, could this be a eMMC problem? if so is it fixable... And if not would replacing the hboot help?

You've got a bad or corrupt hboot. The wrong hboot (ENG hboot included in a short-lived version of the hack kit on the newest run of Inspires) or a corrupt hboot from an interrupted hack kit run.

Thanks for the help. I tried replacing the eng hboot with the link provided on freenode and it work.

After a failed attempt at running the ace hack kit (could only get into hboot), and an ever worse failed attempt at restoring to a stock rom (my stupid mistake), I am seeing the same signature as jbryancs.
Would you share the link and instructions for replacing the hboot? Any assistance is much appreciated.

wleven said:
After a failed attempt at running the ace hack kit (could only get into hboot), and an ever worse failed attempt at restoring to a stock rom (my stupid mistake), I am seeing the same signature as jbryancs.
Would you share the link and instructions for replacing the hboot? Any assistance is much appreciated.
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really? so jumping into the IRC channel is not your best move as instructed to the OP?

I was hoping not to disturb the IRC, but I will jump in tomorrow. Just for background, here's a rough list of what I've done and what I'm seeing now.
Setup: Linux Mint 11 (Ubuntu Derivative) Clean Install for ACE Hack Kit, WinXP for the rest.
1. Ran ACE Hack Kit first time -> stalled early in process
2. Rebooted phone and everything appeared normal
3. Rac ACE Hack Kit second time -> completed process, but noticed some errors/warnings along the way
4. Rebooted phone and it would be stuck at the white HTC logo screen
5. Rebooted to hboot, but none of the options there would restore the phone.
6. Downloaded original ACE firmware and copied ZIP to SD card. It recognized this and performed install, in all appearances successfully until the reboot.
7. On reboot, the phone appeared completely dead. Later discovered that it would spring to life after ~7mins, vibrate 2-3 min, and then boot into Froyo
Phase II
1. Downloaded gingerbread RUU from HTC and ran it. Gets stuck on "Waiting for bootloader"
2. Thought perhaps hboot was corrupted, so ran instructions here "wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Ace:_Rooting_%26_CyanogenMod" to install hboot-eng and clockworkmod
3. This did not fix the booting (still wait 7mins, vibrate 2-3), but I do have root now, as verified through su root on the phone's terminal console.
4. Tried the RUU again, stuck on "Waiting for bootloader"
5. Noticed that if I had the phone USB connected to the PC when power cycling, it would come to a black HTC screen after about 7mins. In this mode, the phone seems to connect in Android bootloader interface.
6. Tried the RUU again, and this time it makes it past "Waiting for bootloader", but hangs (no error message) on "Sending". I've left it for nearly an hour with no change -- just keeps showing the black HTC screen.
I still can't get the phone into HBOOT (using the volume down + power method).

Hello,
Could someone tell me if there's an enclosure or a solution to this problem?
I've searched a few forums, and it appear to me that the conclusion is the old (ENG) HBOOT is incompatible with newer hardware.
Thanks.

hchao said:
Hello,
Could someone tell me if there's an enclosure or a solution to this problem?
I've searched a few forums, and it appear to me that the conclusion is the old (ENG) HBOOT is incompatible with newer hardware.
Thanks.
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You will have to flash the original RUU again and then try to root the cell with the Hack Kit. You can find the original RUU in the general section or go to the htc site and just run the .exe update from fastboot. Let your cell reboot (it will take about 30 minutes) and then flash it.

jbryancs said:
hi,
Ive recently rooted my phone with no problems using the ace hack kit. i tried flashing the newest andriod revolution hd rom and was having problems with the superuser app force closing and the phone wasnt giving me root privledges. i decided to try and reroot the phone using the ace hack kit. (i realize this was my mistake). it stopped in the middle of the process. so i had to pull the battery. when i tried turning the phone back on the screen was black for about 6 or 7 mins. no vibrations or leds to indicate the phone was on. then the htc white screen comes on and the phone vibrates for 2 or 3 minutes straight and proceeds to come on. Ive tried to flash other roms using cwm recovery and itll load what ever rom i choose but i cant get into the hboot or anything and it does the the black screen everytime along with the vibration. is there anyway to fix this? ive tried over and over to boot into recovery through usb but it doesnt work.
so ive done a little research, could this be a eMMC problem? if so is it fixable... And if not would replacing the hboot help?
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I am having this same problem I have searched and searched and this post was the only one that had the same issue could someone please help me out on this and post the fix. Thanks

[Q] HTC One S Terrible bootloop/soft brick on TrickDroid ,cant find solution

Ok guys, new to the forums but this problem has had me fully occupied for the last 6 hours and I feel like I have tried everything. I had cm9 alpha 12, and went to flash TrickDroid v5.0, something happened and I'm currently stuck in some wierd bootloop/soft brick. I had access to CWM but my SD card wouldn't mount and my adb push attempts didn't do anything, for reasons I don't know why. My phone would start up into the wierd trickdroid bootup and last for like 30 minutes. I tried the solution of another thread on how to fix a bootloop/ softbrick, but now I dont have any CWM access and I can only access the bootloader or the endless bootup screen. I tried using the all in one tool to flash the CWM again but it just restarts it and puts it back into the bootup, and when i restart to go to bootloader to acess the recovery, it goes back to bootup. Every solution I try makes my problem worse, and to top it off I cant turn my phone off and keep it off because it will just start back up. Thanks.
Edit: Problem fixed. Downloaded the original all in 1 tool for htc one s, plugged phone into comp went to fastboot and with the tool flashed the phones stock recovery. I reset to factory defaults and cleared storage with it from the bootloader. After that, I flashed clockwork mod recovery again and my SD card was able to be mounted and accepted files from my adb push, and I reflashed cyanogenmod. Wuzzah!

milesmarrero said:
Ok guys, new to the forums but this problem has had me fully occupied for the last 6 hours and I feel like I have tried everything. I had cm9 alpha 12, and went to flash TrickDroid v5.0, something happened and I'm currently stuck in some wierd bootloop/soft brick. I had access to CWM but my SD card wouldn't mount and my adb push attempts didn't do anything, for reasons I don't know why. My phone would start up into the wierd trickdroid bootup and last for like 30 minutes. I tried the solution of another thread on how to fix a bootloop/ softbrick, but now I dont have any CWM access and I can only access the bootloader or the endless bootup screen. I tried using the all in one tool to flash the CWM again but it just restarts it and puts it back into the bootup, and when i restart to go to bootloader to acess the recovery, it goes back to bootup. Every solution I try makes my problem worse, and to top it off I cant turn my phone off and keep it off because it will just start back up. Thanks.
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lol, meant to "quote" not "thanks".
Can you fastboot a new recovery?
Did you do a full wipe coming from CM9 to TrickDroid

Well I can't access the phone from usb on my computer (still takes charge though), so I don't think I can flash a recovery thru fastboot (I'm not too experienced though). From cm9, I wiped all and flashed trickdroid + tweak set, then it just stat their at home screen. CMW being lost occurred later.

Im in the same situation rght now. I have trickdroid and I went into my tweaks to set them back to their original setup...so removing all of the options I chose before when I used the tweaks for the first time. When I rebooted my phone it just hangs on the HTC screen. I can get into recovery and I tried reinstalling trickdroid but its still getting stuck. Not sure what to do at this point. I don't think I can put a recovery file on this since I can't connect it to my computer.
Hopefully someone can help us.

But the thing is I can't access recovery. I try to flash it again with the all in 1 tool and it won't work. It says it went through, but accessing it doesn't work.

If its recognised by USB when plugged in computer just run an ruu that's my solution all The time lol
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

Ok i somehow managed to get TWR on my phone, but still unable to mount the SD. How do I run the RUU? I downloaded it, but the instructions are flawed I think

Connect with USB to.computer go into faatboot USB then run ruu on pc
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

Well I thought the RUU was going to work, but it just stops at the HTC and gives me an error saying I can't. What now?

Ok currently, I relocked my bootloader in an attempt to do the RUU, but I get a 155 Unknown Error up doing such, using the TMOUS 1.53 ruu... other places I have seen say something about returning to the stock img etc, but I'm quite stuck. Any advice appreciated

htc one s stuck in bootloop almost unresponsive
hey guys, got a brain teaser for you.
i have a tmobile htc one s, unlocked, rooted using all in one htc tool, been at it for two days now. im stuck on the boot screen showing its unlocked, i used to be able to get into the boot loader screen but now it seems ive dead ended. ill hold any combination of power and vol up/down, the keys flash for 10 sec and the screen flashes once, i let go and it reboots, keeps that htc screen, after 20-30 sec goes black. my pc doings like it detects a device but i cant locate it. ive used adb and the htc all in one unlock tool trying to get any kind of os to launch.
Shortly before this i was able to go into the boot loader, clear and master reset the files and cache, and search for the rom zip, thus never allowing me to flash. on a journey to place this in the phone through various combinations of the all in one, adb push, and everything else i found on youtube, countless forum posts, i seem to be in a deeper hole now.
I ultimately want to end with a cm10 nightly on my tmo htc one s. I have never done this to a phone without a sd card. i come to this community humbly seeking any and all advice. thank you.

Bricked Inspire After New Rom Install

hello all,
I am new here and I have been searching the forums for a few days as well as the internet but I could not seem to find one that had my same problem, but if there is can you please direct me to it and apologies for that.
I was installing a new rom, the Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 FULLY WORKING!!! [4.0.4][Sense 3.6], onto my inspire i did a full wipe using FULL_WIPE_1.5_EXT4_.zip and I cleared the caches. the install i thought went well because it went to 100% and i even chose what kind of background i could as well as choosing to over clock my processor. The phone the restarted after all of that and it went to the htc screen then faded to black, after about ten minutes of it being black screen i pulled out the battery.
Now when i try to recover it it wont go into hboot and it just goes to the htc white screen then it quickly fades to a black screen and stays like that.
so my question to you all is a Jtag the only way i can save my phone or is there something else i can do?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30480411
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30480411
Sent from a dream.
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Im sorry but I dont understand. I cannot enter hboot no mater what i do and don't you need to enter hboot to reflash it?

True, but I'm hoping you are doing something wrong.
Pull battery, wait a few minutes, place back in. Press and hold Volume down, then power button. Does it go into hboot? If not.
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20382502
Edit: you are the first report with that issue after trying to flash that rom. My bet (that is, if you are new), you are not doing something wrong.
2nd edit: if you are new, then read the guide in post#7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30007255
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
True, but I'm hoping you are doing something wrong.
Pull battery, wait a few minutes, place back in. Press and hold Volume down, then power button. Does it go into hboot? If not.
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20382502
Edit: you are the first report with that issue after trying to flash that rom. My bet (that is, if you are new), you are not doing something wrong.
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I really appreciate the help Teichopsia , but I've tried the power /volume - method many times and it still wont go to hboot. if it helps this is the 5 time i have have flashed a rom on my phone (and it is rooted) and yes sadly i had to be the first person to be unlucky enough to get my phone bricked from the blackout rom :crying:
i think i could get out of this mess if i could only get into hboot.
reading the method you linked to me will it work if i cant even get to the hboot screen? my phone only stays of the white htc logo screen for about 3 seconds then it goes to a lit black screen
on a side note should i report what happened to team blackout to see if they have any soloutions?

The only thing I can think of is trying to get into hboot without the sd card and sim card.
The rest is beyond my knowledge.
You'll need to wait for someone more knowledgable than myself to help you.
Remember, first press and hold the volume down button, while holding that down press the power button. Do not release either button till it shows the hboot. If that doesn't work, pull the battery for five minutes and try again. If you did this part exactly like that, then you can skip it.
Well, you already posyed your issue here, just wait for someone to help you. Glevitan is bound to show up sooner or later.
Sent from a dream.

I would see if you can send commands to it from adb while its in the blacked out state. adb is pretty easy to use and can be found easy online. if you get it installed type "adb devices", if it recognizes your device type "adb reboot bootloader" or "adb reboot recovery".

Novius vi said:
hello all,
I am new here and I have been searching the forums for a few days as well as the internet but I could not seem to find one that had my same problem, but if there is can you please direct me to it and apologies for that.
I was installing a new rom, the Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 FULLY WORKING!!! [4.0.4][Sense 3.6], onto my inspire i did a full wipe using FULL_WIPE_1.5_EXT4_.zip and I cleared the caches. the install i thought went well because it went to 100% and i even chose what kind of background i could as well as choosing to over clock my processor. The phone the restarted after all of that and it went to the htc screen then faded to black, after about ten minutes of it being black screen i pulled out the battery.
Now when i try to recover it it wont go into hboot and it just goes to the htc white screen then it quickly fades to a black screen and stays like that.
so my question to you all is a Jtag the only way i can save my phone or is there something else i can do?
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i also have the same problem. i'm using a DHD. and to add to that, my volume rocker is broken. i wonder why the warning not to select reboot immediately after installation wasnt part of the download as a readme or something. i may have just lost a perfectly good phone as a result

I can confirm as a third user and one knowledgable in flashing roms that the ICS blackout does the same thing to my phone. I can also confirm that pulling the battery and then trying hboot just results in the white htc screen instead of just popping up hboot. I was able to boot into recovery from the white htc screen by using adb and doing the "adb reboot recovery" command. I am able to restore my backup just fine so you guys will be able to fix it. it must just have a bad boot image for the version of hboot that we have installed.

Gizmoe said:
I can confirm as a third user and one knowledgable in flashing roms that the ICS blackout does the same thing to my phone. I can also confirm that pulling the battery and then trying hboot just results in the white htc screen instead of just popping up hboot. I was able to boot into recovery from the white htc screen by using adb and doing the "adb reboot recovery" command. I am able to restore my backup just fine so you guys will be able to fix it. it must just have a bad boot image for the version of hboot that we have installed.
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Im sorry but this is the first time i have ever done something like that can you give me a step by step instruction how to do it or a link that says how, i dont want to sound lazy but I scared to mess up my phone even more

Use this guide its very easy. if you have already used your phone on your pc and the drivers are installed all you need to do is download the easyadb and follow the instrucions to where is says to type adb.exe. once it is started just type adb devices to make sure it sees your device and then adb reboot recovery
Ignore the fact the instructions are written for a xoom as it will work for any android device with the drivers already installed, which they should be from rooting, syncing and all the other stuff you have probably already done on pc.
UPDATE: I reinstalled ICS blackout but instead of wiping myself i just let aroma installer do it and everything went fine this time. I noticed the aroma installer reformats everything to ext4. its not mentioned in the op as a requirement but seems thats the case. Hboot version has nothing to do with it like i previously commented. It really is a cool rom with both ics and sense. I have only tried the sense version so far

Hope this helps?
Novius vi said:
Im sorry but this is the first time i have ever done something like that can you give me a step by step instruction how to do it or a link that says how, i dont want to sound lazy but I scared to mess up my phone even more
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Just in case-- to get into recovery you must press and hold the volume down for a few seconds and then hold the power button. Do not do press them both at the same time. I realize you wrote that your volume rocker seems or is broken but I wrote above just in case-- when I first tried to root my phone, I was pushing them both at first and thought my rocker was broken....
Since you rooted the phone originally-- not sure how you did it. But if you go to this link you can download recovery flash. Read the "readme" file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29208930&postcount=10
Assuming you can get into recovery-- then reload the blackout ROM but you MUST let the aroma installer wipe and format do not use any other wipe/format tool. Then do NOT press the "FINISH" button-- instead press the back arrow-- you want to go back to flash recovery and reboot from there. If you press finish (like I did multiple times, the phone will just lockup).
Best of luck!

Three of us confirmed that hboot was inaccessible even after battery pull. I am no stranger to this device as well. The only fix was using adb reboot. Also if you actually reformat your partitions to ext4 before install, then aroma will install correctly. It's just not mounting anything if it's still in ext3 format. Definitely better to just do the full wipe within aroma though. I do agree with not hitting restart from aroma but someone already mentioned that a few posts up.

Thank you thank you thank you
After putting it into abd it recognized it and then i was able to put it into hboot. Im not out of the woods yet, but after not being to see hboot in so long, well its just amazing to see it again
ok now its in hboot it gives me 4 choices
bootloader
Reboot
Reboot Bootloader
power down
apologies again but just for reassurance which one should i select?
THANK YOU GUYS for getting me this far!!!
special thanks to Gizmoe for suggesting the adb route

Novius vi said:
After putting it into abd it recognized it and then i was able to put it into hboot. Im not out of the woods yet, but after not being to see hboot in so long, well its just amazing to see it again
ok now its in hboot it gives me 4 choices
bootloader
Reboot
Reboot Bootloader
power down
apologies again but just for reassurance which one should i select?
THANK YOU GUYS for getting me this far!!!
special thanks to Gizmoe for suggesting the adb route
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Select bootloader to get to recovery option.

1shukla said:
Just in case-- to get into recovery you must press and hold the volume down for a few seconds and then hold the power
Assuming you can get into recovery-- then reload the blackout ROM but you MUST let the aroma installer wipe and format do not use any other wipe/format tool. Then do NOT press the "FINISH" button-- instead press the back arrow-- you want to go back to flash recovery and reboot from there. If you press finish (like I did multiple times, the phone will just lockup).
Best of luck!
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I did exactly as you said I pressed finished and it asked if i wanted to reboot i said no. then it sent me back to recovery mode crossing my fingers hoping to see that it works:fingers-crossed:

Now, just manually reboot.
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You saved my phone!!
Thank you guys sooo much this Rom is great once I got past that minor issue
My phones working better than ever I even oced it a little bit
Again I am eternally grateful to you guys and team black out for this great Rom!