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I am relatively new to the whole android thing but after having acquired my Vibrant, when it first came out, i have grown tired of how slow it is due to samsungs cancerous coding. This makes me even more displeased when i see how fast my brothers Nexus One is compared to my phone. So i am wondering if the Nexus S would be an upgrade to my vibrant or if it still suffers from samsungs cancer.
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I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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Having owned both the nexus one and now the nexus s, the nexus s is just as quick. I believe Samsung's main issue is the filesystem (rfs if I recall correctly) they chose to use. This is not an issue with the nexus s as it uses ext4, an improvement over even the nexus one which was still using yaffs.
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I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
willentrekin said:
I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
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Thanks!
I must admit that besides using the Flash as a flashlight and its "cool factor" i really dont care about it nor would i use it.
And then the front camera i have considered just modding onto my existing vibrant.
The near field thing i will never use and with our amazing devs the Vibrant is bound to get Gingerbread sooner rather then latter.
BUT the thing i really care about is its system speed and if it has, as our devs put it, "samsungs cancer code" in it, because after all the shiny new addons the OS speed is really my determining factor.
Who know, maybe just switching off Launcher pro will alleviate my lag.
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Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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CyanogenMod is using the stock kernel.. lol, if you want to see the differences of kernels. Try out Netarchy's 1.2.4 or Trinity, I personally use Netarchy. I dislike morfic's boot screens added ontop.
Voodoo sound and Voodoo color are amazing (they're features in kernels) you need the app to control them as well.
Vibrant & Galaxy 4G both run Froyo. Vibrant has official 4G + source released for it now, but it took way too long imo.
If ur gonna try netarchy, make sure its CM7 compatiable (it says it on download link). CFS or BFS, either shouldn't disappoint.
Bronk93 said:
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
I just switched 2 days ago and so far I'm really happy. I sold my Vibrant to a friend and was able to get a Nexus for a price that didn't hurt too bad.
I have to admit that I was hesitant at first. I dislike how Samsung has handled the SGS line and was loathe to reward them by purchasing another one of their products. But after playing with the Nexus for a while I caved. Its the phone I wish the Vibrant had been on the first place. No RFS, no TouchWiz......Never going back to a non-stock Android phone again.
Performance wise it feels noticeably faster than the Vibrant. The build quality is better too. My Vibrant used to creak a little, but not this. I have made a few video calls and though I probably wont use it often it is nice to have the option. I love having a camera flash; I'm often out with friends at night. NFC should take off this year but right now I can't really say anything about it.
Mostly I bought it because the other phones ive seen coming out this year don't impress me too much. Dual core is awesome but until the software support is there it isn't going to do much. Guaranteed updates and CM support are great also. The 4 inch SAMOLED screen hits the sweet spot in my book as well.
Just remember, either way you'll have a nice phone. I enjoyed my Vibrant but at the end it just wasn't what I had hoped for. Good luck.
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ryan562 said:
x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
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Only thing I miss is video codecs. 720p playback lags on RockPlayer
RockPlayer handles everything else pretty well.
Overall, my opinion is that Nexus S > Vibrant. Wish it had SD though, not a deal breaker for me though.
Was just sick of the lack of CM7 support for SGS and constantly using lagfixes and unapplying them to flahs a new ROM.
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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P.S. don't call the Nexus S a SNS. Its NS. They didnt call the 'Nexus One' HN1/HNO (HTC Nexus One).
You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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Pyramid doesn't features Tegra 2. With a phone using tetra 2, you'll have access go tegra 2 zone.
Plus, its rumored that quad core phones will come out at the end of this year or early next.
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I agree with the lateral move. I like the hardware on the NS better than the Vibrant as I'm not into hardware modifications. I do prefer touchwiz apps to stock Google apps. I also prefer video codecs and 720p video recording over not having them either.
What I can tell you is that in terms of speed there are only a few things where I've noticed the Nexus is actually faster at, a quadrant benchmark because of jit, and usb connection speed. Side by side the tasks are almost identical, so much so that I can't tell the difference. My Nexus is running CM7 RC build #2 overclocked to 1.2Ghz and my Vibrant is running Bionix-V 1.2.1 with no overclock.
I have the luxury of being able to use either one whenever I want, so if I know I'm going to take a video I'm taking the Vibrant, and if I'm going on a trip and want to watch some movies on a plane ride I'm taking the Vibrant...every day use the Nexus is fine but it isn't an upgrade by any means.
In the end it's your choice so make sure if you do make the choice to change phones that you can live with it at least until someone makes some nice software modifications.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....TV-out, Gorilla Glass, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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If video playback of anything you can throw at it is important, or large amounts of removable sdcard storage, or even 720p recording, then the Vibrant is the clear choice. There are a significant number of media-related activities the Nexus S can't do, that the Vibrant can.
If a more solid build, with a sexier to look at and easier to hold in the hand shape, with the alleged promise of getting newer versions of Android first are important, then the Nexus S is the choice.
OP - you can easily vastly improve the Vibrant's performance with any of the custom ROMs are kernels that implement the voodoo hacks.
I've called the move from any of the existing Galaxy S variants to the Nexus S a "side-grade", it's definitely not a major "upgrade" unless you'll never run root or custom kernels (to fix the infamous "lag" of Samsung's RFS filesystem).
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Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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I am not a dev, but i am pretty positive that Vibrant with TW uses VIBRANT kernel, not i9000.....shouldn't you know this being from Team Wiskey ?
dont have poor battery life......after several cycles with new ROM, I am back to my usual which is 12-14 hours of use. RFS doesn't bother me anymore thanks to Voodoo. And as far as 2.3 vs 2.2 goes......its just a minor upgrade, not as big as 2.1 to 2.2.
at this point SNS is history already......its very clear that the phone was released to make quick cash....not much longer wait for S-II, LG 2X, and Pyramid....
development-wise points go to SNS......
kolyan said:
+1
If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Agreed, not even really a contest unless your just a blind fanboi like most people in this section.
zephiK said:
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
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Vibrant source was released days ago and there are already three OC kernels out built from source.
I would say if you want to break it down, the NS is better as a pure phone/smartphone, whereas the SGS is a better media device. I would not sell my Vibrant because it's like an Android-based iPod Touch (but better).
I'm currently on the ICS AOKP ROM for my Vibrant and I love mostly everything on it. Voodoo really makes it my go-to device for music because it sounds good and it sounds loud because of Wolfson DACs (one main reason why I'm considering the G2X: either that or the Galaxy S3, but I'm not sure the US is even going to get the Wolfson DAC). However, I've read issues with forced reboots and still hammering out the ICS stuff. I'm mainly interested in the G2X because I've read that the GPS works as great as Motorola's and HTC's. Basically: I want a phone that's as good as my Vibrant, but also has working GPS, as well as LED flash. Things like screen-type and weight isn't an issue.
To have good GPS you need to be on the latest baseband. There are only two custom roms that support it and they're both practically identical (one is based off the other, and the other is just a slightly modified version of stock).
That said I would choose my g2x over a vibrant any day. And if my ebaying is correct, the vibrant actually sells for more than the g2x, so you could possibly upgrade and make some money off of it.
Vibrant has official CM9 builds, G2x doesn't Stay with Vibrant or go for a SGS2.
being as i have owned the vibrant and now own a G2x, id say its a pretty safe jump. the internal storage is about half of the size of the vibrant but the dual core processor in the g2x rocks. I live in a pretty sprawling urban area and i need my GPS, so i stick with the latest baseband and GPS (and everything else for that matter) works perfectly. plus you get an 8mp camera over the 5mp cam on the vibrant and the front facing camera is always fun too =]
hope my 2 cents helped!
BuddhaTeh1337 said:
being as i have owned the vibrant and now own a G2x, id say its a pretty safe jump. the internal storage is about half of the size of the vibrant but the dual core processor in the g2x rocks. I live in a pretty sprawling urban area and i need my GPS, so i stick with the latest baseband and GPS (and everything else for that matter) works perfectly. plus you get an 8mp camera over the 5mp cam on the vibrant and the front facing camera is always fun too =]
hope my 2 cents helped!
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Exactly what I was going to write (mius the GPS stuff, mine still takes a bit to lock, but thats due to the rom I use) I just came from the Vibrant to this and couldn't be happier.
I wouldn't consider a switch to a G2X to be a worthwhile upgrade from most phones. I don't know the vibrant, but I have to think that you can do better than a G2X. There's little hope now of an official ICS ROM, unless T-Mobile announced something recently and I missed it. It's also taken a year for them to get their act together and provide a ROM with working GPS.
It's a dead-end phone, with other phones out there now that have ICS support, and newer phones coming all the time, why move to this POS? I own one, and I regret it. When the SGIII is available on T-Mobile if they won't work me a deal on an upgrade to that, I'll pay whatever I have to to terminate my contract and move to another provider. I feel really burned by the G2X and am very disappointed with the way LG and T-Mobile haven't supported it.
KeithLM said:
I wouldn't consider a switch to a G2X to be a worthwhile upgrade from most phones. I don't know the vibrant, but I have to think that you can do better than a G2X. There's little hope now of an official ICS ROM, unless T-Mobile announced something recently and I missed it. It's also taken a year for them to get their act together and provide a ROM with working GPS.
It's a dead-end phone, with other phones out there now that have ICS support, and newer phones coming all the time, why move to this POS? I own one, and I regret it. When the SGIII is available on T-Mobile if they won't work me a deal on an upgrade to that, I'll pay whatever I have to to terminate my contract and move to another provider. I feel really burned by the G2X and am very disappointed with the way LG and T-Mobile haven't supported it.
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I don't think people here understand that this phone has some amazing development. Sure, some of HTC's phones and the nexus phones all have better support, but have you seen the development for the rest of android phones? Most phones you're lucky to have a couple ROMs to try out (and a lot of times they're just debloated or reskinned).
But for what it is, this phone isn't bad and the development isn't bad. And we'll get ICS working once the P990 gets the drivers.
Thanks guys. It looks like I'm going to be in the market for a G2X in the near-future then. From what I gathered: the main problem of the G2X is the lack of software support from Nvidia and LG themselves because they have closed-source drivers that forces devs to do workarounds which can lead to inconsistencies. However, if you can hammer it all out, it should be a good daily driver that works.
Everyone gets a "thanks".
I'll eventually get a SGS3 if it can be confirmed that it'll get Voodoo Control support on the stateside. It was a huge blow to me that the SGS2 didn't have the Yamaha chip and therefore: no Voodoo LOUDER support.
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Thanks guys. It looks like I'm going to be in the market for a G2X in the near-future then. From what I gathered: the main problem of the G2X is the lack of software support from Nvidia and LG themselves because they have closed-source drivers that forces devs to do workarounds which can lead to inconsistencies. However, if you can hammer it all out, it should be a good daily driver that works.
Everyone gets a "thanks".
I'll eventually get a SGS3 if it can be confirmed that it'll get Voodoo Control support on the stateside. It was a huge blow to me that the SGS2 didn't have the Yamaha chip and therefore: no Voodoo LOUDER support.
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Not to hate on either device, I would like to stay as unbiased as I possible could.
Development goes to vibrant, although no one should complain about the g2x's dev. As someone said earlier, at least we have different roms, some don't have any.
GPS definately goes to g2x, never got a vibrant lock to work. I found GPS lock working better on certain roms and that is all different with every g2x so u are going to have to expirement
Gaming: I don't game on my phone a lot but when I do sometimes to test, it never lagged, accept on some ics roms and its not the devs faults. Vibrant gaming is close, just takes longer to open up apps and lags a little. That is only after I used g2x then switched to a vibrant. As for you, you would have never have knew the difference until u try both so it doesn't matter. Also g2x can play Tegra games, dunno any use if that
Camera : I never use
Screen: I know almost everyone out here likes amoled screens and I'm the only one that hates it. Personal preference basically.
Music: get an Ios device! Haha jk, I am not a heavy listener but it works for runs so that's all that matters to me. Voodoo is awesome on vibrant, never messed with it on g2x.
Battery, I have only played with bionix on vibrant so I am comparing that with bionix on g2x. I seem to have better battery life on g2x but that's because I was experimenting with kernels so Idk, what is ur best battery life and ill compare it with mine.
Drotest? Goes to vibrant the "said" to be *ahem* fake aluminium on g2x is horrible, it can't scratch from ur fingernail or even cases. Aren't cases supposed to be protecting the phone? :banghead: as for glass cracking, Idk g2x will probably crack first because it is heavier, who knows?
Now if you read my whole post, u must be desparate to find out what phone to get Also remember don't care about what other people think, its ur phone and it's up to you in the end. Leta see how many typos u get because I am in mobile
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Not worth it..go for another phone if u got the $
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Vibrant has official CM9 builds, G2x doesn't Stay with Vibrant or go for a SGS2.
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Vibrant still has intermittent 911 dialing issues on CM 9 builds. Until FaultException changes his threads to indicate otherwise or you test it, you have to assume you can't call emergency numbers. I went exactly that route - Vibrant to G2x.
Now, I'm only on the stock G2x ROM. But I'm on the audio-fixed 2.3.4 ROM (as I just got the phone yesterday, only paid $160 on eBay and it is in totally great shape). Solid as a rock and what appears to be good battery life. I used the GPS for around a 90 minutes of turn-by-turn directions and it never gave out on me.
The Vibrant was my first high-end smart phone. The G2x is my second, and it's pretty great. So it's not getting CM9 or any other ICS? Not a big deal to me; the Vibrant effectively didn't run ICS well enough for me, at least not yet. The battery life is awful on any Cyanogenmod (compared to stock) and GIngerbread on the G2x is nice nice nice. And fast.
That said, if you can swing the cash for a nicer phone, or if you have an upgrade credit coming, look at the HTC One S. If I was on post-paid and had an upgrade credit, that's where I'd be looking. I don't have $500 to blow on a phone, though, so I went a cheaper route and got a phone with great performance and a screen that won't burn in.
It's unfortunate that, due to the recent V21Y and audio updates, the G2X just became what it should have been when it was first marketed. At least it wasn't totally abandoned by LG and T-Mobile although it is now deactivated as a phone sold by T-Moble. Don't expect ICS until/if LG makes it available for the P990/O2X(non WIND model). Even then, it will take a few iterations of development to get it working well which, hopefully, will be able to happen if there are still developers working on the G2X.
Although I am extremely angry with prejudice with LG and NVIDIA, I like the G2X and I sticking with it because it now works well and I have to keep it until my 3 year non-contract-contract WINDTab+ with WIND Mobile pays for the phone which cost $500 when I got it.
Most of the newer generation of phones are not substantial or insignificant improvements, technologically, over the G2X. If you can get decent $ for your Vibrant and pay less than the $ you got for the Vibrant for a G2X, that would be a win-win for you. Even if you wind up selling the G2X later, you won't lose much if any $ as it is probably at its lowest value until LG stops selling the Optimus 2X which has updates that can be made compatible (except for the baseband) with the G2X.
I'm about to get my new phone. And was dead set on getting the HTC One X. But as time's gone on, I'm left more and more unsure of the decision. Between the lack of ROM support which is really just a derivative of HTC's failure to foster/support the open source community in the same way that Samsung has. i.e. SGS3 already having CM9 support. On top of that, now there are things like dropped signals and what-not. I'm wondering whether or not the HOX is really going to be a sound 18 month investment that'll keep me fairly in check with the latest hardware and software developments?
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CM9 we have it already working fully
dropped signal on defected devices only! why isnt this clear enough!
Buy an iPhone
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CM9 we have it already working fully
dropped signal on defected devices only! why isnt this clear enough!
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Samsung isn't an option for me. It's just a brand I've never had an affinity to. Having CM9 working and having official CM support are hugely different things. Not to mention that the hardware in HTCs will never be fully supported die to the use of proprietary drivers.
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agree with hamdir..we got all the best roms up and running and got like 3 versions of cm9 which are fully working..what else do you want? and we also got a Paranoidandroid port so again what else would you want...plus windows phone 8 ports should be dropping if the rumoured Tegra 3 chips they would be using would make it easy to port so again i say what else do you want? lol
go and get yourself an s3 my friend and be happy
Think of the One X as the modern HD2 phone with the support we are getting and not even been 3 months since the phone has been released and look what we have already
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I'm about to get my new phone. And was dead set on getting the HTC One X. But as time's gone on, I'm left more and more unsure of the decision. Between the lack of ROM support which is really just a derivative of HTC's failure to foster/support the open source community in the same way that Samsung has. i.e. SGS3 already having CM9 support. On top of that, now there are things like dropped signals and what-not. I'm wondering whether or not the HOX is really going to be a sound 18 month investment that'll keep me fairly in check with the latest hardware and software developments?
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What answers do you expect in the HOX forum....
SGS3 is not without its issues too, one guy even had his phone set on fire on him. LOL
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sabret00the said:
Samsung isn't an option for me. It's just a brand I've never had an affinity to. Having CM9 working and having official CM support are hugely different things. Not to mention that the hardware in HTCs will never be fully supported die to the use of proprietary drivers.
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seriously whats up with all this proprietary talk i don't get it
we have tons of kernel devs doing wonders like Goku said and its just been three month
we just had a completely working linux 3.4 kernel written from scratch by devs and even wifi drivers are being written for scratch
lack of ROM support are you kidding me
we had a fully working CM9 in just one month from release you really think CM9 official will not come? official CM will always favor devices close to the nexus line in terms of release date
In a word, yes get the hox, I played with an siii today, screen is so dull, touch wiz is awful and from all accounts camera is better on the hox. Don't bother with roms myself as I find the hox works just about perfect on stock.
Do it get the hox!
Agree I was actually thinking about switching until I tried S3... The HOX is indeed the best.
Sckank said:
Agree I was actually thinking about switching until I tried S3... The HOX is indeed the best.
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I wouldn't say 'the best', both devices have pros and cons.
- but for what I'm after, beautiful phone, feels premium, awesome screen, OTA updates and dedicated nvidia T3 optimized games, the HOX is definitely the better option for me as I don't require removable battery or sd card slot.
But for me, the screen alone is sooo much better on the HOX, and the screen is always the most important spec of any large touch screen phone.
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I wouldn't say 'the best', both devices have pros and cons.
- but for what I'm after, beautiful phone, feels premium, awesome screen, OTA updates and dedicated nvidia T3 optimized games, the HOX is definitely the better option for me as I don't require removable battery or sd card slot.
But for me, the screen alone is sooo much better on the HOX, and the screen is always the most important spec of any large touch screen phone.
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Yes, or just like I said, the best. ;-)
Oh, the HOX sounds better too.
Sckank said:
Yes, or just like I said, the best. ;-)
Oh, the HOX sounds better too.
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use sound enhancer mode it sounds even better..link in my sig
hamdir said:
seriously whats up with all this proprietary talk i don't get it
we have tons of kernel devs doing wonders like Goku said and its just been three month
we just had a completely working linux 3.4 kernel written from scratch by devs and even wifi drivers are being written for scratch
lack of ROM support are you kidding me
we had a fully working CM9 in just one month from release you really think CM9 official will not come? official CM will always favor devices close to the nexus line in terms of release date
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Yeah but on my current device. Despite having all the goodies and kernel development. The camera still doesn't work as good as the stock. There's still sound issues etc. I never read about these things with OMAP devices.
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In a word, yes get the hox, I played with an siii today, screen is so dull, touch wiz is awful and from all accounts camera is better on the hox. Don't bother with roms myself as I find the hox works just about perfect on stock.
Do it get the hox!
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Thanks for the reply. I really just want it for the hardware. But rating is over the S3 does bring a smile to my face.
See what happens to SGS3 when SGS4 coming in. HOX will get better support. I mean long term support. Look at SGS2, not much going in in the original development, ICS upgrade are rushed work. I have a SGS2 so I know the dev environment for that phone. Most dev ditch it for Galaxy Nexus or SGS3. Look at SGS1, no official ICS by Samsung lolz, which have the same spec as Nexus S, and reason is Touchwiz related. Yes SGS3 get CM9 first. Now lets see who get CM10 first. SGS2 got a late CM9 cuz of sources. Not only late on releasing sources, but Samsung messed it up. The CM9 devs almost give up(which i'm glad they didnt) and now AOSP roms are better than TW ICS on SGS2. HTC Sensation got CM9 first compared to SGS2(which was released at the same time). See what i did there? Samsung will dump their previous flagship that easy.
Sensation VS SGS2
- same time release with Gingerbread but when ICS rolled out, Samsung released a rushed firmware upgrade and rushed sources, which makes CM9 slower while Sensation got everything working easily in the early CM9 phase. SGS2 had it too, but too many things not working.
- Sensation still got true and RD devs working on, while SGS2 has many winzippers(no offense to anyone) only(see their forums, has it split between 2 development threads). cuz RD devs on SGS2 find it difficult to work with SGS2 sources. I am not sure why, but no updates for months from them, except CM9 team.
SGS3? yeah cuz they got released with ICS so they got CM9 working fast. Now see when Jelly Bean comes. SGS2 has a lot of devs in the early days, but most has ditch it half way. I admit, SGS2 is still a great device. it was a legendary that revolutionize the dual core, but Samsung wasted it when they have a new flagships.
Your choice. if you like changing phones, go for SGS3, cuz you can buy SGS4 afterwards. but if not, go for HOX, more power till the end of its life. else, buy an iphone. much more easier, peace of mind.
I think the HOX is a brilliant phone, and I've had none of the more permanent faults, like the WiFi issue..
Only fault I've had was the yellow spots, but they went away the next day and I haven't seen them since, also I think it was my own fault.. I was in a public place and I was messing about with settings when it started blaring out music, really loud, and I couldn't turn it down, so I applied pressure to the back to silence it.
Your choice in the end.
I've got both devices and will be sending back my SGS3 for a full refund.
Why?
- I prefer Sense,
- I prefer SLCD2,
- I prefer the brightness,
- I prefer the looks,
- I prefer the build,
- I prefer HTCs overall device support including OTAs and longer albeit slower releases of newer Android versions,
- I prefer the helpful guys on this side,
- I prefer the camera
- I prefer the social network integration,
- I prefer the mail app,
etc etc
Both are good phones don't get me wrong, I'll keep saying any user will be happy with either BUT:
- Removable/extendable battery
- Extendable storage
If the above 2 are important to you avoid the HOX and opt for something else, if not an issue the HOX is a good choice out of the 2 top end Android handsets presently.
I'm not going to say buy the HOX over the SGS3 or vice versa, but I do suggest you handle both then make a decision as user experience is better than me or anyone else saying x y or z about the device.
Another opened BS thread, clutter, nothing to learn, boring, pfffff...
To my opinion it's, to yours it's probably not.
Thanks again everyone. As I said, for me thi sis more about hardware purchase than software preference. I'm not too fond of Sense and really haven't played with TW enough to have an educated decision. But ultimately want rid of the bloat and want to be in charge of my own destiny. Hearing that this phone is considered a first class citizen of the community and is most likely to be the successor to the HD2 is what swings it for me. As I'm coming the Incredible S which for all of it's beauty is essentially a third class citizen. I'll look forward to picking up my HOX midweek.
sabret00the said:
Thanks again everyone. As I said, for me thi sis more about hardware purchase than software preference. I'm not too fond of Sense and really haven't played with TW enough to have an educated decision. But ultimately want rid of the bloat and want to be in charge of my own destiny. Hearing that this phone is considered a first class citizen of the community and is most likely to be the successor to the HD2 is what swings it for me. As I'm coming the Incredible S which for all of it's beauty is essentially a third class citizen. I'll look forward to picking up my HOX midweek.
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You will never get a real successor to the HD2. I highly doubt that there will be a phone released any time soon which will be able to do so much and still have such active development after nearly three years.
The One X is good but Sense is very unnecessary for ICS in comparison to GB and Froyo. TouchWiz on the other hand is actually rather great now. I hated it for older versions of Android but it seems perfect on the SGS3. It's the little details which are really very impressive, and it's just so smooth. And to whoever said the screen on the SGS3 is dull, with all due respect are you an idiot?! It's by far the best phone screen I've used (better than the One X as well).
One more advantage of the SGS3 over the One X is just how simple it is to root. From what I've read about the One X, it's a bit troublesome to root and flash custom ROMs etc. whilst even someone like myself (never flashed a native Android phone before) can easily use Odin and flash things without really having to do too much thinking.
Nigeldg said:
You will never get a real successor to the HD2. I highly doubt that there will be a phone released any time soon which will be able to do so much and still have such active development after nearly three years.
The One X is good but Sense is very unnecessary for ICS in comparison to GB and Froyo. TouchWiz on the other hand is actually rather great now. I hated it for older versions of Android but it seems perfect on the SGS3. It's the little details which are really very impressive, and it's just so smooth. And to whoever said the screen on the SGS3 is dull, with all due respect are you an idiot?! It's by far the best phone screen I've used (better than the One X as well).
One more advantage of the SGS3 over the One X is just how simple it is to root. From what I've read about the One X, it's a bit troublesome to root and flash custom ROMs etc. whilst even someone like myself (never flashed a native Android phone before) can easily use Odin and flash things without really having to do too much thinking.
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The one x's screen is better then the s3's... It's sharper and the colours look so much better. Plus u can actually view it in sunlight.
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Due to unfortunate circumstances I have had to let my Note go recently. I have a blackberry in use right now. I thought I could use it until I was able to save to buy a proper phone but I do not think I could wait that long!!! Every time I look at it, I want to throw up. It is TERRIBLE!!!
SO I ordered a nice used Nexus S i9020a ATnT version on ebay (great rom support!!!). I was just wondering, as its a single core device with "just" 512mb ram, does it perform satisfactorily for general use and gaming etc on JB?
Thanks guys.
running smooth on my NS4G.
maybe you can flash CM9
CptAwesomeTT said:
Due to unfortunate circumstances I have had to let my Note go recently. I have a blackberry in use right now. I thought I could use it until I was able to save to buy a proper phone but I do not think I could wait that long!!! Every time I look at it, I want to throw up. It is TERRIBLE!!!
SO I ordered a nice used Nexus S i9020a ATnT version on ebay (great rom support!!!). I was just wondering, as its a single core device with "just" 512mb ram, does it perform satisfactorily for general use and gaming etc on JB?
Thanks guys.
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You will be satisfied as long as you are not expecting it to run like some supersonic dual core device. Keep in mind it is old technology and JB drives the phone to about its max but their is some wonderful JB roms and kernels out there for the Nexus S.
I wouldn't recommended it for gaming but its a good daily driver. Jellybean really makes it worth it....
Runs great on my NS4G.
I use CodeNameAndroid's ROM with the latest stable AIR kernel installed from CWM Recovery. Even just added the 4.2 Google Apps earlier and it runs great. SavagedZen/SIO combo seem to be the smoothest for me. I can get better battery life with different combos, but not worth it to deal with micro-delays in input for me. I'm a little :silly: I know.
I don't use my phone for gaming other than simple "phone style" games anyways, so no comment there.
Video playback, and music with screen off works great.
UI is super smooth and responsive.
I have it clocked to 200 Mhz to 1.2 Ghz and slightly undervolted. It is super stable.
It gets about 2-3 hours straight of screen on while browsing the net via Wi-Fi at home (someone in my family is always on it), but will last about 12 hours when used normally. I probably get 30 minutes to an hour of talk time a day, check my email every couple hours, use the navigation once or twice, and always have GPS, Data, and 4G on (Sprints 3G is slow here).
If I turn off all data and use it strictly as a phone while out and about it lasts a long time. Probably a day and a half.
Plus it has had countless ROM's flashed and is still kicking, sometimes dozens in a single night... LMAO. I recently did something so it doesn't transfer files over USB anymore though, trying to figure that out right now.
[ROM] [NS4G] [AOSP] 4.1.2-JZO54K- Updated 10/13/12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811491
So far, that is the best ROM for me. Very fast and very 'compatible'.
wow thank you guys for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. Looking forward to receiving my second Nexus device.
I have nothing but great experiences with my Nexus 1 a couple years back.
If this experience is as good as I think it would be, I might go back to a pure Android device, rather than an Android powered one!
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[ROM] [NS4G] [AOSP] 4.1.2-JZO54K- Updated 10/13/12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811491
So far, that is the best ROM for me. Very fast and very 'compatible'.
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Umm didn't you say you bought the at&t version? I'm new to the nexus s line but I thought the 4g sprint version ROMs only work for that phone.
Just make sure you flash the right version ROM/kernel for your phone.
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I think the Note is a great tablet phone. If you had installed SlimBean on your Note you would have been happy. If you don't want to be disappointed with the Nexus S, I suggest SlimBean.
Kernel!
I went through several JB ROMs and kernels on my NS (Stock, CM10, Slim, Trinity, Matr1x) and finally settled on a combo of AOKP JB M1, Marmite 6.7.9 and smartassV2. I also disabled all frivolous animations and transitions. The phone is now a rocket!
I flashed the 4.2 Gapps and they all work fine too, except for Google Now, which can't seem to access my location service.
Don't play hard core games on this thing. It's good for the occasional Angry Birds or Fruit Ninja, but that's it.
It's a great phone and so is your decision to buy it based on community support!
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Aalaap.
help me
I have nexus s i9020A, it is AT&T
android version 2.3.4
how can i get unlocked and update?
u guys take care of my f.king phone. plss help.
have a look at this guide -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782 :cyclops:
and give the Q&A Section a go -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882815
rgds sah
Beautifully IMO. The ROMs being developed have given me full use of my phone and have actually kept me from spending the coin on upgrading again.
Just an FYI
I recently flashed BlackBean6.0 and Matr1x kernel and had lots of weird problems. I flashed to AIRr2 stable kernel and it still had a bunch of freezes and random restarts, now my device is softbricked
Stay away from that combo
The bottom line and MOST significant thing here is that nexus S is now easily the fastest single core android phone. Phones with 768MB ram will have an edge in gaming but with ICS or GB they are not going to have the same system wide speed.
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The bottom line and MOST significant thing here is that nexus S is now easily the fastest single core android phone. Phones with 768MB ram will have an edge in gaming but with ICS or GB they are not going to have the same system wide speed.
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Very true, most of my friends have dual core phones with giant screens and 1GB of RAM... They all compliment my phone a lot everytime someone ends up using it for anything. They can't even tell it has half (literally) of the horsepower in all areas. It still has one of the best looking screens by far also. I can't stand Motorola or HTC screens (haven't seen the newest HTC phones though) with that greyish polarization you get when you tilt it at all... Yuck.
And some say it's boring, but I love the all black, mostly unadorned look with the slight curve to it. The curve makes it nicer in my pocket on my face and in my hand. I don't want a perfect brick. I don't want any bigger either, 4" is perfect for me. I have big hands and can JUST barely use it with one hand. And I agree with Apple on ONE THING... I feel a mobile device that requires two hands for anything more than games IS STUPID.
I wish they made an NS4G with Nexus 4 or even Galaxy Nexus specs, and a rubberized back. I would snatch it up in a heartbeat.
JB 4.1.2 is working great on my i9020a! With CM10 and Marmite 7.1.2, it's a happy machine. I kind of want a Nexus 4, but with the huge demand and low stock, I'm still happy using my old Nexus S.
Hey guys
I am a best buy mobile sales consultant and I get a nice verizon concession line with 100 dollars off of a phone of my choice (except iPhones lol classic). all my old phones broke and i am too broke myself for a new one but this old blackberry curve has done enough damage haha so its time.
anyway i am looking for advice rather than dishing it out for once.
i was set on the nexus 4 but with no LTE version thats not sounding too great.
note 2 and the DNA are too big for my liking and RAZR HD im not a fan of motoblur.
has vzw announced anything else for the end of the year or should i just go with the black GS3. i am a sucker for AOSP roms, will jellybean stock be ported to the GS3 or do you guys find no need to get rid of touchwiz..
any advice is appreciated. thanks.
The GS3 is such a great phone. I run AOKP and it is fantastic. The LTE is fast, there are a lot of customizable options, the screen is crisp, etc, etc. There are also some great options in TW Rom's as well, and the development in this area recently took off with the release of the JB leak. I could go on but I'm others will chime in as well.
Love the GS3. Would agree with the post above that with all the JB leak stuff going on, it's even better and smoother. I'm using CleanRom 4.0 and couldn't be happier. Scott really knows how to make a fast and effficent custom ROM.
I'm a very happy GS3 user as well (you'll find a lot of them around here ). I've also been using CleanRom for a while now, and not sure I'll switch. I've used sense, aosp, and now touchwiz, and honestly, TW doesn't bother me in the least. I have a hard time finding much fault with it, but I do also use Nova for my launcher.
That said, the Razr HDs look really good. I can't say much about MotoBlur, but as I understand it, it's been "reduced' drastically in the latest iterations so I would recommend at least checking it out. Aside from a Nexus (which seems doubtful VZW will get), the only thing else I would consider jumping to is the Note 2.
I should also say that you can't really go wrong with the most popular Android phone on the planet (30 million sold and counting).
I came from a Verizon Nexus, I saved my upgrade for that and sorry I didn't save it for the SIII which I bought online to save my unlimited data plan, but it was worth it battery life is great signal is light years ahead of the Nexus. And the ROMS are well there are tons AOSP style touchwiz etc. Love AOKP and BeansTown's work. can't go wrong with this phone, it is really a nice device.
since you already ruledout the DNA id say go w the gs3
I have the gs3 and I love it. If you don't mind larger screen the note2 is coming and its the same as the gs3 with a kick as gallery. HTC is also about to announce a new device that may be worth looking into. (Nov.13) is the announcement.
I just love the S3. I've been using the CleanRom custom ROM with all the great jellybean features that are available and couldn't be happier. It's exciting times with all the development that is going on.
There are AOSP Roms already out but they are no way near as stable as the TW Roms we have. They are still working things out.
TW on the S3 is actually pretty useful and coming from the GNEX as well, I do not really miss AOSP. Would rather go for stability right now and I am totally happy with TW.
The only other phone I would be interested in right now is the Galaxy S4 : )
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Hey guys
anyway i am looking for advice rather than dishing it out for once.
any advice is appreciated. thanks.
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What did you end up with? GS3 is a beast.