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Battery is absolutely garbage

Am I the only one?
I upgraded to a native android device from a modded HTC HD2 to hopefully have a longer battery experience.
This battery is absolutely trash. My 2 year old HTC HD2 running Sense Android Non-Native ran at almost exactly the same.
I tested my HTC HD2 side by side with a close friend who has an Evo 4g.. Both Devices still being HORRIBLE in battery life performed almost IDENTICAL.
HTC HD2 is TWO YEARS old, why is it so close in performance to our device..
I love the phone in general, it's snappy (once i removed all bloatware).. Boots fast, runs nice.. i have very few complaints about it.
But how does an 1100 MaH battery run the SAME as an 1600 MaH battery?
I thought technology is supposed to improve, but my non native android phone ran almost the same as this one. Took longer to restart/boot up, but general speed is the same, larger screen size.. similar settings, and same battery life. Pisses me off frankly.

That's how I felt. hopefully we will get rom's or gingerbread on this phone soon that will improve battery life. And by gingerbread I mean the leak from Samsung for the i9000. I've been reading reviews and it seems like it Greatly improved battery while speeding up the phone a lot.
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I have to disagree. I've owned may android phones including the evo. This phone has the best battery life in my opinion. I can easily make it almost all day with use without charging
Sent from my DAMN Galaxy 4G¡!

Well like I said, i admittedly abuse the phone.. but I'm comparing to other phones getting equal abuse. It stands up about the same, better yes, but not by much.
If I'm barely using it however.. let's say, mainly just texting, yes it will last all day. But that never really happens.

I love how people admit that they "abuse" the phone all day and then complain that the battery life sucks. If you're going to use your phone that much, bring your usb cord. Or strap a battery pack to yourself and plug it in for "all day" use and abuse.

It's the screen. If you want the super amoled you have to put up with the battery.

What i don't understand is that why the Droid x which has similar specs to our phone can go up to 10 hours of continuous web browsing when our phone/vibrant can only go up to 4 according to tests. Is it because of the screen? If it is then that's just stupid.
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It was horrible for me at first, but I then realized the system has to calibrate the battery first. I am getting about 16-20 hours with moderate usage now, which is better than the G2 I had before.

My g2 can go up to 28 hours with light texting and 2 hours of web browsing through wifi and 10 minutes of calls (manual syncs and low brightness also). Once I use the gps and browse through hspa, it's a different story. My sister has a SGS4G and her battery seems to drain faster than mine.
Oh, and if I keep my phone charged for a while after reaching the 100% mark, it stays at 100% even after 1 hour of heavy browsing and watching videos. I think we should all just assume that the battery meters are inaccurate.

I use juice defender and put my brightness setting on auto and I can literally go all day with "abusing" my phone.

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I use juice defender and put my brightness setting on auto and I can literally go all day with "abusing" my phone.
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WHAT? I have brightness on minimum with juice defender and all I get is 8 hours Max. All i really do on this phone is text and play words with friends so its not like i am abusing it or anything.
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How did you calibrate thee battery
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let the phone die, to the maximus. meaning once it turns off, turn on again until it doesnt turn on anymore. Now fully charge it, once again when fully charged restart the phone and charge it to 100 again. then let it die again, and full charge. should be fine then

i bought a 3500mah extended battery for my phone. the battery is designed to work with vibrant. it really made my life a lot easier.

I noticed if I set the phone to GSM only, battery lasts almost twice as long. If I'm on auto select (WCDMA/GSM), it lasts from 7AM till about 4PM.
But then again, I don't have a very good 3G/4G reception (or 2G connection for that matter), so my phone is probably working extra hard to find signal all day long.

The new Bali Kernel has shown tremendous battery improvement on my phone. I'm really impressed.

dualkiller said:
The new Bali Kernel has shown tremendous battery improvement on my phone. I'm really impressed.
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Same here.
I used to only have dark wallpapers and take all the other extra steps for my battery to make it through the work day, and as soon as i got home i had to charge it.
I'm now running fireflies live wallpaper, abusing the phone a little more then what i used to, and i still have battery to spare, not by the time i get home, but by the time i go to bed!!

i also have installed bali. seems to do well, as said its all about the brightness.

My problem with this phone is that wifi uses way too much battery. I have it to turn off when phone is asleep but i'll have the phone at 100% with wifi on. Put it on sleep. 4 hours later. battery is at 65%.
If i have wifi turned off. Battery will be at 98%.

Tips to GREAT Battery Life!

Here are the settings I'm running on CM7 to get amazingly bananas battery life (with the display being on for about 5 hours!)..
1. Conservative governor: 245mhz - 1017mhz in CM7 settings
2. Install the 'BatteryCalibration' app from the market. This app caused the single biggest improvement for me after having flashed so many roms and never calibrating the battery. If you've calibrated it before though, I don't think it'll be very useful for you.
3. Install 'NoBars' from the market to automatically turn on airplane mode when you have no service. (This might be useless to some of you if you always have a signal; Very useful in NYC subway though)
4. Use a 2G toggle widget to have the phone only use the Edge connection when you only need it to receive calls/ texts and don't need the high speeds. I use the toggle widget in the CM7 notification bar. HUGE battery saver.
Give these a shot and let us know how they work for you

I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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Aspeds2989 said:
As you can see by my display being on over 3 hours, I used my phone a heck of a lot today and still have over a third of my battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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Question: It's cool that your display was on for 3 hours, but what did you do as far as app usage??
If you did use your phone "a heck of a lot" wouldn't some apps like "internet" "maps" or something show up on the battery use %'s???
For example, currently, other than phone idle, cell standby, voice calls and android, there's also internet, mail, maps, and other apps that I used today alot.

Good observation. I have no idea how android chooses which apps to show on there, but I think it depends on the ROM? I remember on Iced Glacier cell standby would barely use 5% of the battery and on CM7 it uses >40% consistently. Idk.
Maybe what those apps used up here was nothing compared to the display, wifi and phone idle time.. Just a guess.. But I did use the browser and xda app and listened to music via the Rdio app running in the background several times throughout the day, and sent multiple texts and have had my wifi on for about 5 hours now. I can't really find a menu that would show these statistics except in the Spare Parts app, and here you go..

I got 17 hours just yesterday with 9% left with moderate to heavy use (texting, web browsing and ps1 emulation).
I didn't do anything besides use faux's kernel with the smartass govenor. I have the max speed overclocked to 1.8 as well...

Nice. I just got over flashing new kernels for a while since the stock CM7 one has everything functioning perfectly and new kernels would improve on something but mess up something else in my experience.

I can't seem to find a 2g toggle widget that works with Royal Glacier. (one touch, I've found a few that take you to settings) When I was running Royal Ginger I would always use the one that came in the notification bar.

Wifi status is also a good app to remind the forgetful to turn off wifi when they leave the Area.

Aspeds2989 said:
I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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This is GREAT battery life... i wonder what word i'd use to describe mine.
i Pulled my Phone off the Charger this morning @ 7:20pm EST. Now it is 3:13 EST. and i've got ~50% left. So thats what like. 7 hours

neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.

Aspeds2989 said:
neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.
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since my last boot. 8:10AM when i loaded the new CM7. 1h 1m 59s.

Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-Battery-Charger-HTC-Mytouch-4G-Merge-/290556738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.

Maybe. All I know is my battery increased dramatically after running that app once.
I measure battery life by how many hours I am able to keep my display on before it dies rather than how long after it comes off the charger (like nedilinger does). My battery used to die after about 3 hours of the display being on. Now it consistently lasts 5 hours.
Anyway, I was just trying to let others know what I did to get a really good battery life on my phone thinking it might be helpful. Apparently that's not appreciated. Thanks tho.

sundayhustler said:
Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.
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How long does 1 of those batteries last?
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simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.

erickdj said:
simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.
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does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?

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does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?
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Better than what's reported under CM7. The battery life I posted above was on RG.

you say you don't sacrifice 4g but you admit you have a 2g/edge widget?
To me "not sacrificing 4g" means not ever turning it off, maybe i'm mistaken
I had battery issues, I'd have to charge it mid day else it would die. Juicedefender helped a bit (claimed to do 1.7x battery life) but I uninstalled it, rooted the phone, and uninstalled a bunch of stock apps
For some reason now my battery lasts a very very long time, don't know how or why that is. I also admit I don't use it as heavily as some people, but my habits have not changed and I did have to charge it mid day (like i said) even with little usage

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How long does 1 of those batteries last?
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Obviously, it's hard to say without describing how I use my phone, but I get probably 10-15 hours of medium-high usage. I probably get about 4-5 hours of talk time. I'd say the Chinese ebay batteries probably last 80-90% as long as the OEM battery. Quite decent considering the price.

My earlier thoughts about the BatteryCalibration app could be wrong. I don't really know all the details about how Android battery calibration works. I just assumed that it simply learns about all the bad spots in your battery so that your phone doesn't instantly jump from 80% to 30%. I also assumed that the phone would die when the battery had no power left, as opposed to when it says 0%, but maybe that's not the case. Regardless, if it helps you, more power to you and I appreciate you sharing the app. I didn't mean to come off as an unappreciative ****. If I did, sorry bout that.

Informal battery test

There are a lot of battery threads out there, but i wanted to try something new. I want to see how much our phones drain in real world situations. So here are the rules:
1. Use your phone normally for ten minutes.
2. Note your battery percent at the beginning and then at the end.
3. Post details about what you did, what ROM you're using, and the percent battery drain.
Hopefully we can compare our experiences and learn something.
I used my phone to surf a few websites, send one text, and use xda app. Started at 80% and ended at 77%. Using rcmix3d at 50% brightness.
I know there are tons of factors that affect battery drain, and I'm not trying to be scientific. I'm just curious how we all compare!
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The only way you will get a decent idea is to test with others in your area as it will depend alot in signal strength. I would use more battery if I was bouncing between signals instead of having a steady connection.

shermanshen said:
There are a lot of battery threads out there, but i wanted to try something new. I want to see how much our phones drain in real world situations. So here are the rules:
1. Use your phone normally for ten minutes.
2. Note your battery percent at the beginning and then at the end.
3. Post details about what you did, what ROM you're using, and the percent battery drain.
Hopefully we can compare our experiences and learn something.
I used my phone to surf a few websites, send one text, and use xda app. Started at 80% and ended at 77%. Using rcmix3d at 50% brightness.
I know there are tons of factors that affect battery drain, and I'm not trying to be scientific. I'm just curious how we all compare!
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Screen-on time is the only thing I ever look at. I've only managed to squeeze about 5h45m, out the sense-based gb ROM I've been using.
The phone does really well in standby on most if not all roms that have been flashed properly, don't have non-rom-related battery hogging app issues, and, as zelendel mentioned, signal issues.
It's this big fat screen that's obviously the biggest battery sucker.

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Screen-on time is the only thing I ever look at. I've only managed to squeeze about 5h45m, out the sense-based gb ROM I've been using.
The phone does really well in standby on most if not all roms that have been flashed properly, don't have non-rom-related battery hogging app issues, and, as zelendel mentioned, signal issues.
It's this big fat screen that's obviously the biggest battery sucker.
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My phone does great in standby as well, but seems to die quick when I'm actually using it. I've never had an issue with the phone dying on me though as I recharge every night. I think i had a little better battery life on miui than I'm getting now.
I know there are many many factors that go into battery performance, I'm just curious what other people actually get when using their phones.
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shermanshen said:
My phone does great in standby as well, but seems to die quick when I'm actually using it. I've never had an issue with the phone dying on me though as I recharge every night. I think i had a little better battery life on miui than I'm getting now.
I know there are many many factors that go into battery performance, I'm just curious what other people actually get when using their phones.
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I've gotten accustomed to putting my phone on the charger before bed as well. Mine pretty much will last the entire day... Off charger at ~8-9am, back on it at ~12am.
Averaging about 5 hrs screen on time with usually no voice calls of significant length, WiFi on, gps off, relatively stable signal.
I'm running Inspired Ace 1.0.1, and the 04.11_M2 radio. Seems I was getting a little better with the OTA radio, but signal fluctuated a lot more on that one, than with the 04.11_M2.
Edit: doesn't really use your testing procedure, just more of a general feeling, as there's so many other contributing factors...

10 minutes of on-line gaming (storm8 games) = 10% drain
WiFi off, gps off, mobile data on, screen brightness on auto, stock rom

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10 minutes of on-line gaming (storm8 games) = 10% drain
WiFi off, gps off, mobile data on, screen brightness on auto, stock rom
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Holly crap that's a heavy drain. I couldn't possibly use this phone with that type.of battery drain. Thanks to our great dews I managed a little over 7h screen on time. Could only accomplish that by reducing the screen brightness and UC to 768mhz. Stick speed and auto brightness I get about 6-6 1/2 screen on.
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My battery will drain about 5% if I even just leave it sitting for ten minutes... I JUST rooted my Inspire and flashed the RCMix3D ROM, and it almost seems worse. Have background data, auto sync, wifi, gps, bluetooth, all that stuff shut off, too. I love this rom, but really want to find one that improves battery life!

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My battery will drain about 5% if I even just leave it sitting for ten minutes... I JUST rooted my Inspire and flashed the RCMix3D ROM, and it almost seems worse. Have background data, auto sync, wifi, gps, bluetooth, all that stuff shut off, too. I love this rom, but really want to find one that improves battery life!
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You probably got a bad flash, or have something else running, as I mentioned in your recent thread.
Did you full wipe prior to flashing?
Try out gingerbeast, if you still have battery issues with that, after properly wiping prior to flashing of course, then it's hardware, as that ROM has produced some record-breaking battery life performance.

Mine has twice decided to randomly have days where it just drains like crazy. The battery is a lot warmer and just dies out in like 6 hours with very minimal usage. the majority of the time my battery is great but the last 2 days and then about a month ago it did this. No reason for it either, I have made no changes on my device.
Anybody seen this?
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You probably got a bad flash, or have something else running, as I mentioned in your recent thread.
Did you full wipe prior to flashing?
Try out gingerbeast, if you still have battery issues with that, after properly wiping prior to flashing of course, then it's hardware, as that ROM has produced some record-breaking battery life performance.
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Yeah I did a full wipe before flashing. I'll be sure and try that out tomorrow, I really hope it helps. If the issue is hardware, should I contact HTC? After I believe you said my phone should still be under warranty, I called them, and indeed it is. The rep I had before must have been new or something. Thanks

From a full charge, on TPGB with wifi, gps, and sync on, and everything refreshed 3-4hrs, I lasted about 8 hours. I was using super accurate gps for 20 minute intervals or so, but it lasted the day I'd say. Some occasional web browsing.
Lucky for me my head unit on my car has a usb port. For this whole trip I left it off though.

When is battery drain significant enough to be considered defective

Since I had the phone, battery drain has been ridiculous. Around ten to fifteen percent per hour. After recently switching to humble 1.5 my drain is nearly 30% an hour. I will try to recalibrate soon but should I consider getting another battery? I was listening to mp3s and checking email during that hour and about ten minute of gps. But the drain still feels a bit excessive. What do you think?
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What kind of signal do you have? Under battery use, is there anything that's been using a disproportionate amount of battery? What do you keep on as far as services and connections, like GPS, 4G, etc?

My signal is usually fine with 4g a majority of the day. It was struggling a bit today in the underground and I had to turn off and on the data to get a solid connection a few times. I usually keep on the data and gps or bluetooth on depending on the situation. Usually just a combination of those. Data is the only one on all day. Nothing looks unusual under the battery usage except for the display using 82%, but it was like that on stick as well.
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What was your brightness set to?
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Automatic.
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braveally said:
My signal is usually fine with 4g a majority of the day. It was struggling a bit today in the underground and I had to turn off and on the data to get a solid connection a few times. I usually keep on the data and gps or bluetooth on depending on the situation. Usually just a combination of those. Data is the only one on all day. Nothing looks unusual under the battery usage except for the display using 82%, but it was like that on stick as well.
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Well, 4G and GPS together can use power pretty aggressively. Granted, 30% an hour seems excessive and may be caused by something else.
A couple things you could try - force 3G (you can do this manually or via a downloadable widget I believe) instead of 4G and use location services instead of GPS (unless you just need GPS). I know these aren't as "attractive", but can provide similar services with less power consumption. This will at least let you see how much consumption is due to these more power intensive services.
If you still have issues, you may have a battery problem (or may need to try reflashing a ROM, stock or otherwise).

charlie_c said:
Well, 4G and GPS together can use power pretty aggressively. Granted, 30% an hour seems excessive and may be caused by something else.
A couple things you could try - force 3G (you can do this manually or via a downloadable widget I believe) instead of 4G and use location services instead of GPS (unless you just need GPS). I know these aren't as "attractive", but can provide similar services with less power consumption. This will at least let you see how much consumption is due to these more power intensive services.
If you still have issues, you may have a battery problem (or may need to try reflashing a ROM, stock or otherwise).
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Yeah, that's a tough swallow just for the sake of battery. I can compromise on the location service, but really want 4g since it is so widely available for me. I will attempt to recalibrate the battery and then possibly reflash if I feel it's still a problem. Is there another rom you recommend that can possibly mitigate this issue. I tried Gummycharged on my phone but it is really buggy (launcher force closes every few minutes) on my device for some reason.

braveally said:
Yeah, that's a tough swallow just for the sake of battery. I can compromise on the location service, but really want 4g since it is so widely available for me. I will attempt to recalibrate the battery and then possibly reflash if I feel it's still a problem. Is there another rom you recommend that can possibly mitigate this issue. I tried Gummycharged on my phone but it is really buggy (launcher force closes every few minutes) on my device for some reason.
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Depends on if you want a Froyo or a Gingerbread ROM. I was running the Eclipse Froyo ROM with the imoseyon kernel overclocked and undervolted slightly and had excellent stability, performance, and battery life. I just switched to a GummyCharged GBE 1.9RC2.3 but haven't really decided yet if I'll stay.

Probably Froyo
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Depends on if you want a Froyo or a Gingerbread ROM. I was running the Eclipse Froyo ROM with the imoseyon kernel overclocked and undervolted slightly and had excellent stability, performance, and battery life. I just switched to a GummyCharged GBE 1.9RC2.3 but haven't really decided yet if I'll stay.
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Thought about it for a while and will be sticking with Froyo for now until Gingerbread has been officially released from Verizon. I'm hoping that will allow for most of the bugs to be reconciled. I read in various post that GB still has some issues. Stability, performance and battery life are my primary concerns.
On a side note:
Don't quite know if I am ready to start overclocking and changing voltages. Is there a recommended thread to get some basic knowledge on working with the voltages and what not. I only have experience overclocking desktops and graphics cards.
Thanks for following through with me on this as well.

braveally said:
Thought about it for a while and will be sticking with Froyo for now until Gingerbread has been officially released from Verizon. I'm hoping that will allow for most of the bugs to be reconciled. I read in various post that GB still has some issues. Stability, performance and battery life are my primary concerns.
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I was right there with you, but I read that these Gingerbread leaks also allowed you to use Media Hub with HDMI out (which it does), and my credit was about to expire
braveally said:
On a side note:
Don't quite know if I am ready to start overclocking and changing voltages. Is there a recommended thread to get some basic knowledge on working with the voltages and what not. I only have experience overclocking desktops and graphics cards.
Thanks for following through with me on this as well.
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No problem, I used the clock and voltage settings in this post but only used the Temperature profile. Had no issues. I tried straying from it but started getting crashes so I went back to it. If you're looking for only battery improvements, you could skip the 1300 Mhz OC and just underclock and undervolt. That whole thread is devoted to an OC kernel though so feel free to read through and it may shed more light on it.
Hope that helps.

Awesome. Thanks
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Automatic brightness will use more battery than setting it to one brightness and manually adjusting it as needed. Automatic brightness requires activating and polling the light sensor, then increasing/decreasing the brightness. On top of that, I've found that automatic tends to keep the screen brighter than it needs to be for me in most situations.

Good point
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Automatic brightness will use more battery than setting it to one brightness and manually adjusting it as needed. Automatic brightness requires activating and polling the light sensor, then increasing/decreasing the brightness. On top of that, I've found that automatic tends to keep the screen brighter than it needs to be for me in most situations.
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I think your right. I had a similar issue with auto screen brightness with my old Touch Pro 2. I will try this among the things written earlier to see if it has any impact.

5% drain in last twenty minutes. Just Lte on and no activity but writing this post.
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20% drain per hour of screen on time is the norm for Charge. Throw in the typical idle background drain of 4% per hour, and you'll see why 3 hours of screen on time per day is the max you can get.
Now then, the drain due to active screen use is expected and can't be improved. However the idle drain is unusual and *probably* can be fixed by future Samsung firmware. (gingerbread is not fixing it yet). I'm guessing its poor idle radio management, which is why undervolting the core does nothing to help.
If the idle drain can be greatly improved, the Charge could then expect to get 4-5 hours of screen on time per day, and I'd be a happy camper.

braveally said:
5% drain in last twenty minutes. Just Lte on and no activity but writing this post.
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I'm in the same boat here with Humble 1.51.
4G at 4 bars, -84dBm, surfing the net, 30% back light, no gps, no wifi, 2 gmails syncing -- 20%/hour.

Brightness is at the lowest setting for me, Twitter, Facebook, and Beautiful Widgets syncing hourly, 2 Gmail accounts with push notifications, Google Voice, and possibly a few more background apps. I'm at just over 4 hours being unplugged with 20 min. of screen on time and my battery is at 75% and was charged fully when I unplugged it. I have not had any major use as far as playing a game or major web surfing either.

I have good luck with imoseyon's lean kernel 0.13.3 and gummycharged fe. I had very poor battery life before i tried that combo.
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Go back to Stock. Completely wipe everything (including SD Card ... this is optional probably, but it's what I did. Make sure you back up on your computer). Then re-flash your rom. I had this problem after switching initially from Froyo to GB. My battery life is amazing now with the new GC GBE 2.3.

Scrappy1 said:
20% drain per hour of screen on time is the norm for Charge. Throw in the typical idle background drain of 4% per hour, and you'll see why 3 hours of screen on time per day is the max you can get.
Now then, the drain due to active screen use is expected and can't be improved. However the idle drain is unusual and *probably* can be fixed by future Samsung firmware. (gingerbread is not fixing it yet). I'm guessing its poor idle radio management, which is why undervolting the core does nothing to help.
If the idle drain can be greatly improved, the Charge could then expect to get 4-5 hours of screen on time per day, and I'd be a happy camper.
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I've seen you post this on other threads, and it just proves that different users of the Charge have different experiences. I think a lot of it has to do with the network.
I have had my phone off the charger for 10.5 hours now at home, which varies between a moderate and weak signal. It is still at 81%, which means it has had a 1.8% per hour battery drain. It has been mostly idle, but I've sent a few texts and quickly browsed a website. If it was truly left alone, it would be even less than 1.8% per hour. This clearly debunks your one-size-fits-all claim of 4% idle battery drain.
As for screen on time, I've done 2 hours of screen on time during an 8 hour day and still had ~48% left. Doing the math I could get ~3.85 hours of screen on time in a 15.3 hour day. My battery drains quite evenly with no sudden drops, so this would be a fairly accurate and realistic expectation for me. If I really needed to, I should be able to get ~4.55 hours of screen on time in an 8 hour day. This is based on my high of 1.8% per hour idle drain and 18.8% per hour screen drain. Or, if I did a 10 hour day (like I do quite often), I could do ~4.35 hours of screen on time. Once again, your sweeping generalization of 3 hour max screen on time certainly doesn't apply.
I don't have any special or magical configuration either. I leave 4G on, which sometimes drops to 3G at my house since the signal is weak at times. I leave the GPS and bluetooth on at all times. I have the screen brightness set on automatic. I also have Gmail setup with one push email account and leave auto/backround-sync on at all times.
I run Imnuts' PBJ voodoo kernel with a stock deodexed EE4 system and got rid of some of VZW's bloatware. Mind you, I haven't noticed any significant difference in battery life between the fully stock stock EE4 and the current configuration.

let's talk battery..

so as it may be known, i came from an iPhone 4S and traded that for an HTC One X, i've had it for a little over a week and i really like it a lot BUT (you knew that was coming i think..) the battery is below par, i get about 3, on a real good day 4 hours of usage from a full charge. i only auto sync mail, screen is on 25% (also tried auto for a few days), when at home it's connected to WiFi, data off and when i go out the other way around, GPS and Bluetooth are off at all times. the main thing i do on my device is Twitter, Google+, Facebook and Instagram, + some light browsing the Internet. i understand the screen and processor take quite some battery but it's not cool to only be able to use the device about 3-4 hours before running empty. emailed the guy i traded with and he said he got about 7hrs, which would be awesome after dealing with 3-4 ;}
i am using Nova Launcher Prime, but prior to that when i ran Sense the battery was about the same. may just revert to stock to see how that will affect the battery, even though i will miss my widgets and setup. i also emailed HTC and was considering going to AT&T but since i traded the device i doubt they'll be much help.
what do you guys get... and what if anything did you do to improve it ?
thanks.

How much screen on time? 4 hours is nuts. I easily got 24 hours on stock, with light usage, maybe even a day and a half. The 2.2X versions firmwares seem to get better battery life. Just this morning I had just under 50% battery left after 24 hours, with 1 hour screen on time.
If screen brightness in on "Auto" turn that off, and set it to something like 40-50%. That should save you some, but doesn't account the type of battery drain you are talking about.
Might be some runaway processes. Or any possibility you are in a fringe LTE area?

on screen time is what i was reporting, round about 4 hours -which yea is pretty horrible i'd say. i even have the screen brightness lower; 25%. checked the processes and for what i know nothing out of the ordinary, but i'm a novice Android user so.. prior to yesterday i only used 4G when out, so at home i stayed on WiFi.
battery stats now:
- 76%
- 5h 8m 54s on battery
- screen on 59m 28s

Screen on time of 4 hours very normal, and its good for a smartphone. Everyone uses their phone differently, of course. But 4 hours of screen time gets most people through a day, and charge overnight. What type of screen on time did you get with the iPhone?

roeiboot said:
on screen time is what i was reporting, round about 4 hours -which yea is pretty horrible i'd say. i even have the screen brightness lower; 25%. checked the processes and for what i know nothing out of the ordinary, but i'm a novice Android user so.. prior to yesterday i only used 4G when out, so at home i stayed on WiFi.
battery stats now:
- 76%
- 5h 8m 54s on battery
- screen on 59m 28s
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Your stats are very normal for this phone model. The One XL screen is gigantic, but isn't AMOLED and as such uses much more battery life to power than some other Android devices. I get ~3 hours of screen on time in a days use of battery, and that is about 10-15 hours away from a charger. From what I can gather of your usage, if you are looking to extend your battery life, the only thing to do is leave the screen off more.
Do you flash custom ROMs? If so, try a custom kernel that allows you to change the CPU governor and clock speeds. The processor in the One XL maxes out at 1.5GHz by default, but you can underclock it to 1.2GHz with no noticeable detriment to performance. Also you can set the minimum frequency to an even lower clock speed, which allows the phone to use even less power when idling. Finally, make sure that the CPU governor is set to Ondemand. Powersave actually doesn't save as much power as you would think!

my favorite part was when he compared a tiny 3.5" screen to a 4.7" screen and expected the same battery life, even though it is roughly the same

Firstly, 4 hours screen on time isn't bad at all. I'm sorry your only reference is an iPhone.
To get 6+ hours of onscreen time with this phone like I and many others get you will need to do two things. Firstly, flash a custom ROM. CleanROM 4.5 is a good one that's as close to stock as you're gonna get. The second thing you need to do is turn off auto brightness. Leave the brightness set at 35% - 40%. This will improve battery life immensely. And no, 40% brightness is not dim.
Happy flashing!

10-12 hours up
5hrs 15mins screen on
Everything synced
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Screen on time of 4 hours very normal, and its good for a smartphone. Everyone uses their phone differently, of course. But 4 hours of screen time gets most people through a day, and charge overnight. What type of screen on time did you get with the iPhone?
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with my iPhone (GPS on always, WiFi always, screen on about 70-80%) i got an average of 6 hours with peaks of 7. 4 hours with the HTC One X is on a good day.

i did not flash a ROM since i can not unlock the phone (yet). where i compared, referred to the iPhone is based upon the previous owner who said he usually got 6-7 hours on screen per day. it's uncool that people not live by the rule if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say nothing... i'm only trying to get some help here (luckily most members are helpful... i'll try and ignore the others) and my other reference would be a BB Storm, which lasted very long, but the device wasn't very exciting
i'm following the thread where rooting is discussed but i believe there's little progress. AT&T is also not pushing Sense 4.1 (yet, mine has 4.0) and ICS 4.0.4.
just spoke with HTC and they agree it's too short and are willing to exchange battery... downside i would be w/o a phone for 7-10 business days. might swing by AT&T and discuss, "issue" is i was not the original buyer.. he (HTC rep) stated they might give you a loaner (i doubt it..) we shall see.
thanks to those with positive feedback.

so far..
click here for today's results --16% left.. slightly over 3hr on screen time.

roeiboot said:
just spoke with HTC and they agree it's too short and are willing to exchange battery...
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It really depends on how you use your phone, and not all screen-on time is the same. 4 Hours is screen time is pretty good, and pretty on par with what other users on here have observed. The phone is new to you, so I bet you are using it like crazy. If that use includes a lot of internet, playing video, or games, its going to use more battery than some other activities. I don't know if a replacment is going to make you any happier.
You also have to consider, aside from a much larger screen, its also much higher resolution than the iPhone. Pushing all those pixels by the GPU takes power. The CPU is also much faster than the iPhone (and just about any other smartphone except the Galaxy S3), again using more power. Screen time may be less, but its doing so much more in that time.

4 hours, if I made would be somewhat acceptable, yesterday I had a little more then 3. I do not play game, I manly do social media & a little surfing..
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my battery would last over 24hrs until the OTA 2.20 update now im lucky to get 12hrs out of it. Did they change something in the update?

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my battery would last over 24hrs until the OTA 2.20 update now im lucky to get 12hrs out of it. Did they change something in the update?
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The 2.20 OTA has an new radio. So its possible that the new radio happens to result in worse reception (and therefore battery life) than the previous one. Newer radios do not always get better results for all people, as its very geographically dependent.

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The 2.20 OTA has an new radio. So its possible that the new radio happens to result in worse reception (and therefore battery life) than the previous one. Newer radios do not always get better results for all people, as its very geographically dependent.
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Thank you for the reply and yes the radio looked like it was a new one and in PA i dont get that great of service everywhere.

Yeah, 4 hours of screen on time is normal so I definitely don't think you have any sort of defect. Signal strength also has a lot of impact on battery life. Keep brightness as low as possible while still being comfortable to your eyes (battery life isn't worth putting extra strain on your eyes). I use an app called display brightness that allows you to change brightness by swiping across the statusbar. I keep mine at the lowest level and just swipe a bit to increase it when I need it and then swipe it back down when I'm done. A custom rom could help some. If nothing else, root so that you can use something like better battery stats to give you more info on what's happening behind the scenes so you can make some adjustments. Although I'm not one to push using this, you might want to install something like juice defender to see if it helps. Verify you don't have some app running in the background unnecessarily chewing up cpu use. Note though that just because an app is running in the background doesn't mean you should kill it. As long as it's not doing anything, it's better for it to be running than to have to load it up (especially if it's an app you use frequently). A couple of other things to verify, don't use push notifications / syncing (I keep background syncing off a manually sync (well, I use Tasker to sync things at different times of the day)). If you can, use wifi. If wifi isn't available, turn it off. Also make sure wifi notifications are off and that you aren't using 'best wifi performance' (both under wifi advanced settings).
I'm sure there are some others I missed but hopefully these help and at least give you a starting place. No matter what though, enjoy your device and don't obsess too much with the battery. Once you've gotten over the 'new toy' syndrome, you should get a days use out of it. I pretty much take mine off charge in the morning and put it on charge before going to bed with around 30‰ left. Sometimes more, sometimes less. 3-4 hours average of screen on time, 30-60 minutes of calling.
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^^^^Thanks for the tip on that brightness app. Very impressed.
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Vendetta-NY said:
^^^^Thanks for the tip on that brightness app. Very impressed.
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Np. Been using it since early on and it continues to improve. One of those handy must have apps.
Sent from my One X

update.
went to the AT&T Device Center (did not know it existed until the regular AT&T store told me about it...) they played with my phone and concluded that the battery was draining too fast while using it, so w/o discussion they exchanged it.
got a follow up question since AT&T did not know, with the iPhones i would let them drain all the way down at least and then fully recharge and leave it on the charger for an extra 2 hours after it being 100%, i *think* that helped condition the battery.. anything you guys can suggest anything for me to to now that i have a new device to maybe improve/condition the battery ?
thanks.