Poor wifi performance of other devices (macbook) - General Questions and Answers

This is super off-the-wall but does anyone else use a Macbook via wifi on their home network at the same time as an Android device, and notice super crappy wifi performance of just the Macbook? I am using an AT&T uverse wifi router (via motorola.)
I have tested this with a Fascinate and an Eris, and with an old Macbook 14" and a newer Pro. When wifi on the phone is turned off the macbooks seem to work pretty good (there are still times when they crap out). When the wifi is on, the phones (and my dell laptop) can connect fine, speedtest shows full bandwidth from them, but the macbooks just run super slow, even when the laptop is very close to the router.

Well, my laptop is a macbook and I use our home wifi network for internet, I occasionally use wifi at home on my phone but I'm usually on 3g (pay $30/month for it, might as well use it). But I haven't experienced issues with network performance on the macbook while there are android devices connected to the same network or not. The problem must be somewhere else in your setup?

I don't see how one could effect the other

It could be the layout and materials of the room you are in. With radio (like WiFi) more than just signal strength matters. You can get interference or reflection of the signal that can cause problems. Newer notebooks have 3 antennas to help deal with these problems.
If the notebook is older, it likely has 1 or 2 antennas and might not deal with relection as well. Not sure what you could do to fix it though to be honest

Thanks for the info, I know that it is hard to imagine that one affects the other but I tested it a few times and each time the network speed on the macbook was bad when the phone wifi was on (even when the phone was not being used) and then got a lot better when i switched the phone wifi off. It is probably related to the Motorola wifi router more so than the phone, but I figured I would see if anyone else noticed it. The funny thing is that if i switch the phone over to hotspot mode (using wifi-tether 1.6beta) and connect the macbook to it, it runs great.

Your home network speed will drop to the speed of the slowest device on that network. There are 3 different speeds of wireless network cards in today’s electronic devices – B, G and N. B is the slowest wireless connection and can be found in things like Wii consoles. N is the fastest wireless connection and can be found in things like Ipad2′s and Macbook Air’s.
A computer network in a home is only as fast as the slowest device connected to the network. Thus if your network had 1 Wireless B device, 2 wireless G devices and a wireless N device, and your neighbor's network had 3 Wireless N devices, your neighbor's network speed would be much faster than yours.

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Is the G1's Wireless Really 802.11g?

I have my router setup in my den, less than a foot away from the outside window. If I goto my car in the driveway, 75ft (max) from the router itself, I don't even pick up a weak signal. Why is this? I feel like I'm running on 802.11b with the range I get. Speeds seem to be at G speeds but still, the distance seems really false. Anyone else experiencing this?
802.11b and 802.11g have the same effective range.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11
i have the same issue. i have a linksys router, but it might be crap. Ill swap and see what happens
@coolb, sorry, meant to type a, just had b still in my head from looking up the g1's specs.
I have a Belkin N1 Wireless Router, most definatly not a POS And I mean it can pick it up from other rooms, but it seems when i go out of my house it just says no to me.
Either way I'm still under 40m from it, I wouldn't expect any more than 15m, maybe 20m, and like i said its right next to a huge bay window that I'm in direct sight of.
Try changing your router's channel or something. Maybe too much interference.
i have a belkin b/g and get no or 1 bar of wifi signal in my house. my buddy has the same basic router, but the n model and my meter is full and the connection was fast. I am definitely getting an N router in a week or so. i havent had any problems with the last couple of belkin routers i have had, so it will prolly be them.
I have a belkin n1 vision router, and i get signal down the street, about 50 feet away.
i have 3 routers, a 2wire gateway, a crappy netgear and a linksys, and on all 3 sometimes i get great signal sometimes i get low signal, i think the wifiradio no the g1 reacts based on battery life, i could be wrong but its just random like that... prob something that will be fixed on future firmware updates.
It can be anything not just the G1 but what is around, between you and the router, which way the antenna's are pointing, what is near the router. Honestly... I had a microwave between the router and one desktop and it always had issues even when the microwave was off... I moved it and signal came back and no problems. So just because it is off it could still impact the router.
i cant get any wifi network even from 2 feet away.
I had the same problem with my linksys wrt54gs till I went to do some searches about firmware on it. I came across a free firmware site that replaces linksys original firmware and worked great after I installed it. It was fairly easy to install and a big community for help incase you come across some issues. the website is http://dd-wrt.com. I usually had to reset my router once a week cause of failure to connect issues, but since the change I yet have not to reset my router and the signal is stronger. Its been two months now since.
qtronix said:
i cant get any wifi network even from 2 feet away.
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Go to a computer connected to you router preferable wired and connect to you router(by typing its ip address in browser) it might ask you for a username & pass, you can looked it up online ie google linksys admin password. Usually its admin and there's no password or admin admin etc. Then change some of the settings around until you get it to work . Mess around with the security and the frequency. That's what did it for me.
I have problems with the G1's WiFi as well, it refuses to stay connected for more than 10 seconds at a time to my uni wifi. It'll constantly disconnect and reconnect... I have to turn off the wifi to get any internet usage out of this thing. It works fine with my home router, and my laptop and old winmo phone connect fine to the school network. No idea what's wrong

Wifi SLower than should be..

I have a linksys wifi N router at home and my laptop connects at around 144mbps, however my phone only connects at around 72mbps..
Also my laptop always sits on my coffee table which is about 15' from my router (through one wall) and has excellent signal. But my phone usually only has good signal in the same spot. It only usually lights up like two of the wifi indicators.
Does everyone else have this issue? Are the wifi chips just not strong in the phone or what?
My laptop is currently saying that it is recieving at 54mbps, my mesmerize is showing the same speed. Although my laptop is stating that I have excellent strength, and my phone is showing fair strength. I think the wifi is only so-so in this phone, I rooted last night and just got wifi tethering going. With the phone broadcasting a hostspot next to the laptop it only gave a fair signal strength. I'm not sure if the strength of a wifi hotspot has anything to do with the recieving end of the signal though.
elijahblake said:
I have a linksys wifi N router at home and my laptop connects at around 150mbps, however my phone only connects at around 75mbps..
Also my laptop always sits on my coffee table which is about 15' from my router (through one wall) and has excellent signal. But my phone usually only has good signal in the same spot. It only usually lights up like two of the wifi indicators.
Does everyone else have this issue? Are the wifi chips just not strong in the phone or what?
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I've had this issue with both my droid and my blackberry (when I used my blackberry). I think that the wifi capabilities in phones are not as good as they are in computers.
but the reason I'm asking this is this phone is supposed to have wifi N radio in it.. Older phones only had G antennas which are only capable of 54mbps.. wifi N is theoretically capable of up to 300mbps, I've never seen anything actually connect at that speed, but it would seem that my phone which is brand new should atleast connect at the same speed as a 2 year old wifi N laptop???
imyp said:
My laptop is currently saying that it is recieving at 54mbps, my mesmerize is showing the same speed. Although my laptop is stating that I have excellent strength, and my phone is showing fair strength. I think the wifi is only so-so in this phone, I rooted last night and just got wifi tethering going. With the phone broadcasting a hostspot next to the laptop it only gave a fair signal strength. I'm not sure if the strength of a wifi hotspot has anything to do with the recieving end of the signal though.
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If your router is only G that's the max speed you will get?
Wifi is a pain in general to troubleshoot, as there could be many, many reasons why it is slow or not working at all.
General questions to be asked are:
Do you have security enabled wifi?
What kind of encryption are you using?
How many devices are connected to the network? (Wired or wireless)
Is the router set to send a wireless N signal? (most routers have that optioned, but not always running as most devices are not wireless N compatible)
I've had my phone connected at several wifi's (I travel a lot for work and am in hotels all the time) and my connection speed varies. At home I have great connection and speed test to 5megs a second download (wireless N--it connects) currently at a hotel in Colorado, 1480kbps download (wireless G)
I still stick by my thoughts as far as the wifi on the phones will never be as good as the wifi in a computer, be it a laptop or a desktop. Phones just don't have the battery power to hold a super strong/fast wifi signal.
I have wifi speed problems also but my first gen ipod touch does not seem to have issues
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skitzo_inc said:
Wifi is a pain in general to troubleshoot, as there could be many, many reasons why it is slow or not working at all.
General questions to be asked are:
Do you have security enabled wifi?
What kind of encryption are you using?
How many devices are connected to the network? (Wired or wireless)
Is the router set to send a wireless N signal? (most routers have that optioned, but not always running as most devices are not wireless N compatible)
I've had my phone connected at several wifi's (I travel a lot for work and am in hotels all the time) and my connection speed varies. At home I have great connection and speed test to 5megs a second download (wireless N--it connects) currently at a hotel in Colorado, 1480kbps download (wireless G)
I still stick by my thoughts as far as the wifi on the phones will never be as good as the wifi in a computer, be it a laptop or a desktop. Phones just don't have the battery power to hold a super strong/fast wifi signal.
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yes, the router is set to wifi N or actually it's set to all!!! I have security enabled..
There's only two devices running wifi (laptop/cell phone)
I get fast download speeds like 5000kbps down/2500kbps up when using the speedtest.net app..
But when I go to wifi settings and click on my router once it's connected whether I have Good (usually) or excellent it's only connected to my router at 72Mbps.. I have a static IP set for it..
I guess mobile phone wifi chips just aren't up to par with laptop chips
msird said:
I have wifi speed problems also but my first gen ipod touch does not seem to have issues
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My little brothers touch has the same issues with speed.
elijahblake said:
yes, the router is set to wifi N or actually it's set to all!!! I have security enabled..
There's only two devices running wifi (laptop/cell phone)
I get fast download speeds like 5000kbps down/2500kbps up when using the speedtest.net app..
But when I go to wifi settings and click on my router once it's connected but whether I have Good (usually) or excellent it's only connected to my router at 72Mbps.. I have a static IP set for it..
I guess mobile phone wifi chips just aren't up to par with laptop chips
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Those are my sentiments exactly. Even with it not being as fast, it's plenty fast for everything I need it to do, but 3g is fast enough for me generally. I only connect to wireless when I'm not in good cell service.

Wifi Turns Off

My wifi turns off almost instantly after turning on. Sometimes it will connect to my network and other times it's a no go.
This is a wifi only version and I'm still in the return window so thinking about swapping it out or just taking it back
Android Version 3.2
Kernel 2.6.36-P6210UELA3-CL616928
Build HDJ85B.UELA3
I've been googling for a couple of hours
Stock reset device and wifi sleep policy is set to never. I have nothing installed
thoughts?
I assume that other devices connect and stay connected just fine?
There are wifi tool apps (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer) that might give you a little better insight to what is happening
Yes, all other devices work fine with the router.
I have tried both DHCP and static and have assigned a specific IP to the tablet from the router.
If I could get the wifi to stay on i'd see what I could download
Edit: Seems to be something to do with the router. I have two in my house (one upstairs and one down). Both resolve back to my uverse model so the routers are just wireless bridges I guess. If I connect to the downstairs and turn wireless off and on I have no problems. If I connect to the upstairs router things go down the crapper
by chance is the upstairs router wireless-n?
Yes. the upstairs is wireless N
Think if I changed it to G only it would work better?
Solution : only connect to WiFi G ?
I have the same issue on my european GT P6210, connected to a Netgear WNDR3800, which has dual band WiFi (2.4GHz B/G/N and 5GHz A/N).
Yesterday evening, everything worked like a charm on the 2.4GHz band supporting N (up to 130Mbps) but today the connection is really random. I tried to connect to the 5GHz band network but to no avail.
So I restricted the 2.4GHz band network to B/G only (up to 54Mbps) and it is way more stable.
HTH, too bad for the DLNA streaming
in my experience the wireless N on the tab + is downright unstable. using wireless G tends to correct this problem. and since i can think of no reason i need 130mbps throughput to the tab, i see no reason not to continue using the G. disappointing though. the tab 7 experiences the same issues
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in my experience the wireless N on the tab + is downright unstable. using wireless G tends to correct this problem. and since i can think of no reason i need 130mbps throughput to the tab, i see no reason not to continue using the G. disappointing though. the tab 7 experiences the same issues
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Did you set the tab to only use G? or did you set the router to only broadcast G? I had to set my router to only broadcast G
I have had this problem with 3 different Galaxy tabs. Keep in mind that this is connecting to a work WIFI using wpa2 enterprise. Boggles me that it connects for like 2 mins then drops, only way to reconnect is to disable/enable the wifi. At home using wpa2 non enterprise I can connect perfectly with no drops.

in Europe right now & wifi is weak on SGS3?

Wife's RAZR sees the hotels wifi 3 stories up just fine & yet I can't see **** on my SGS3!
Even on ground floor I cannot see or connect to the hotel!
Don't use wifi much in states so now I'm wondering does the wifi radio suck in the SGS3?
Having to BT tether is painful.
Anyone else who regularly uses wifi confirm or deny sucky wifi in this phone?
My Wi-Fi signal reception in the US is similar to other devices (iPad, transformer tf 101, old captivate, and thunderbolt).
Are you on any special kernel?
Wi-Fi in Europe has slightly different defaults (channel wise), could be that the phone isn't optimized for that. On other devices, I had custom Rom that let you select region for Wi-Fi optimization
must be the curvature of the earth.
Yes WiFi sucks on this device.......downright terrible. All other devices get full WiFi in my living room from my router downstairs. This phone barely gets a bar. Had to get a WiFi extender to be able to use my WiFi. My wife's is the same as mine. Samsung really screwed up some major aspects of this phone.

Question Terrible Wi-Fi

Hello everyone,
Is anyone of you experience terrible Wi-Fi performance as well?
In our house we have one main router on the ground floor, one more in the 1st floor (no mesh) and an access point in the attic for smart home devices.
When I'm in the garden I can only see the access point and the ground floor router. When I'm connected to the ground floor router the signal is very bad and keeps on disconnecting even though the distance is maybe 15 meters with only one wall in between. I cannot even see the network from the first floor router.
With my OnePlus 9 Pro I was able to see and connect to it, even though the router is on the other side of the house.
Another thing to mention is, that with the OnePlus I could see 10+ networks from surrounding neighbour's and with the Samsung it's only 2.
Im quite happy with the device, but this is really bothering me. I'm not using some crazy case or sth, just the Samsung clear one.
Thanks for reading, any thoughts?
You didn't say if you was on 2G or 5G? Have tested both? What Routers are they? Hard to help without more details about your setup. I have a Netgear AC1750 Router and 2G is crap at around 50mbps on Speed Test and 5G is much better at 250mbps. But it's a single story house with just the sole Router at one end.
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You didn't say if you was on 2G or 5G? Have tested both? What Routers are they? Hard to help without more details about your setup. I have a Netgear AC1750 Router and 2G is crap at around 50mbps on Speed Test and 5G is much better at 250mbps. But it's a single story house with just the sole Router at one end.
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I have separate networks for 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz. 2.4 is better for range and my internet is only 50mbit so speed doesn't really matter to me. Main router is a fritzbox and the second router is from some cheap brand. The setup shouldn't really matter though because it is still working fine with my OnePlus.
CW7_ said:
I have separate networks for 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz. 2.4 is better for range and my internet is only 50mbit so speed doesn't really matter to me. Main router is a fritzbox and the second router is from some cheap brand. The setup shouldn't really matter though because it is still working fine with my OnePlus.
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That's still kinda vague. What router models are they? Also, if you're running multiple routers, you're going to have problems. In a non-mesh environment, the second router should be configured as either an access point, or as an extender.
You could also be having an interference problem. Either between your routers and AP or from external interference from any neighbors' networks.
In any case, you'd be better served by swapping out your current equipment and switch to a mesh system. I use Google's Nest Wifi with one router and three mesh access points. However, there are several other mesh systems that work well.
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That's still kinda vague. What router models are they? Also, if you're running multiple routers, you're going to have problems. In a non-mesh environment, the second router should be configured as either an access point, or as an extender.
You could also be having an interference problem. Either between your routers and AP or from external interference from any neighbors' networks.
In any case, you'd be better served by swapping out your current equipment and switch to a mesh system. I use Google's Nest Wifi with one router and three mesh access points. However, there are several other mesh systems that work well.
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Thank you for your comment.
The main router is a AVM FRITZ!Box 7590 AX (Amazon) and the secondary is a cheap Tenda AC6 AC1200 (Amazon). Having multiple routers in a a non-mesh environment shouldn't really be a problem. The Tenda is connected via LAN interface, providing it's own network with its own SSID. It's only for a few devices very close by.
I know there can occur problems due to interferences, but I didn't think it was a problem because the Samsung is the only device having issues. I can try messing with the bands, but honestly I don't think it's going to change anything.
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Thank you for your comment.
The main router is a AVM FRITZ!Box 7590 AX (Amazon) and the secondary is a cheap Tenda AC6 AC1200 (Amazon). Having multiple routers in a a non-mesh environment shouldn't really be a problem. The Tenda is connected via LAN interface, providing it's own network with its own SSID. It's only for a few devices very close by.
I know there can occur problems due to interferences, but I didn't think it was a problem because the Samsung is the only device having issues. I can try messing with the bands, but honestly I don't think it's going to change anything.
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Your setup overly complicated. You are essentially running three SSIDs (One for the FRITZiBox, one for the Tenda, and one for the attic AP). Either reconfigure the Tenda as an access point, or pull it out completely. The problem seems to be the handoff between your primary and secondary router. Your primary router should be able to handle the 1st and 2nd floors easily.
Another question. How many smart home (IoT) devices are connected? The Tenda is capable of only 20 devices. Since the Tenda is upstairs, it's going to have better range than the downstairs router (there is a reason why people tend to place antennas higher up). The AP in the attic is not a router and if it is connected to the Tenda via LAN, the Tenda may be running short on capacity. Since it is higher up, your S22U is probably trying to connect to that device.
The way I see it, you have three options:
1. Install a mesh setup. You have one router, with two mesh points (one on the 2nd floor, one in the attic) running one SSID on both 5GHz and 2GHz bands.
2. Remove the Tenda and move your AP to the 2nd floor. The AP can easily handle the smart home devices, and provide WiFi to the second floor and attic. It will also reduce you down to two SSIDs.
3. Remove the Tenda, move the FRITZiBox to the second floor and connect it to your internet modem (or whatever device you get internet through) via LAN (you said the LAN is already run between 1st and 2nd floors). Connect the attic AP to the FRIZTiBox (via LAN). That should give you enough WiFi coverage and reducing to two SSIDs.
1 billion issues can cause wifi problem....
1) airport\military base near you
2) powerfull microwave
3) neighbor on the same channel
4) device power management
5) bad case (bad plastic - put in microwave...if it heats its BAD)
6) bad antenna inside of device (return it to factor)
8) in-wall powerline 240v
etc...
buy ZYXEL
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09924QS1T
Running an Asus RT-AC68U router. I get good 5Ghz signal in every room, the basement, the garage and in the car behind the garage.
Not sure what the issue is but it could be your device.
I highly recommend upgrading to a Wifi6 environment if you have a S22 (but not necessarily Wifi6e). The S22's support 160MHz channels which allows for up to a 2.4Gig multi-stream connection with your phone. My phone will connect anywhere from 1.2-2.4gig in/outside my house depending upon where I'm at in relation to my router. My internet is only 500/500, however, I noticed wifi was much snappier with my S22u over my older Wifi6 phone which used 80MHz channels.

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