I was always of the impression that open apps on android don't use up power etc.So I have never had task killers on my phone or tablet but recently I have noticed after about half a day of the tablet being used on and off by me and the kids its slow down quite a lot but a reboot and its back to normal.so is it open apps causing this?
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I was always of the impression that open apps on android don't use up power etc.So I have never had task killers on my phone or tablet but recently I have noticed after about half a day of the tablet being used on and off by me and the kids its slow down quite a lot but a reboot and its back to normal.so is it open apps causing this?
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yes and no. A process may be slowing it down, but it might not have to do with apps. One way to check what apps are running is by going into settings, press applications and press the tab that says "running" and see what is there. If there is a process that is burning too much memory or processing power, then kill it (don't kill too many processes though because some are important for running the underlying os). And, if the app keeps slowing you down, then concider uninstalling it.
Still getting this problem after a couple of. Hours use the tablet is slowing down
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Use Advanced task killer from the market. I usually just press the recent apps button (right of the home button) and close unwanted apps ... not sure its thats a feature of Revolver rom or not though.
Android does use apps better than windows etc but if they have been ran they still resrve memory (not so much CPU) but sometims this can mount up enough to slow your device down.
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Hi all,
One habit I've developed with the Captivate is using Advanced Task Killer to kill apps that otherwise would just be hanging out in memory. I do this probably because I'm anal retentive like that, but also with the thought that it save me battery life if I do.
This has led to two questions of mine (excuse the noobiness to Android if these have been discussed):
1.) Why do so many applications start automatically when the phone boots up? (browser, gallery, etc etc). Is there a startup ini somewhere I can edit to prevent this or do all the apps just wake up? It's easy enough to kill, but I find some of the apps that start up very odd.
2.) Over the course of the day, even with Autokill on and security set to "Low", eventually my memory is consumed and it only gets back to its full state until the phone is rebooted. After all obvious apps have been killed the memory usage will will go from ~170mb (after a reboot) to as low as ~130mb (at the end of the day). Does anyone know why that happens and if there is a better way to manage memory/apps?
Thanks.
I used to use task killers, but I have uninstalled them and just let android do its thing. The only reason I'll end a program is if the program has an exit function or has froze, which is rare. With this method I don't have any slowdowns and great battery life. On the flipside I don't install poorly developed apps. Thats just me though.
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Folks, a little Public Service Announcement:
As soon as I got my Infuse, I put Advanced Task Manager on it. The Best Buy Mobile guy told me you need such an app on Android phones, and I fell for it.
I put Advanced Task Manager on the phone and set it to kill apps every 5 minutes, excluding the ones I know are needed. I also put Juice Defender on the phone and set it to the least aggressive setting. I thought I was keeping my phone running fast and saving battery.
(I can't say that Juice Defender isn't doing its job. I still have it running today. I'm not blaming it for the problems I was having, but I still wonder...)
What I discovered was that my phone would lock up sometimes. It would hiccup constantly when playing music through bluetooth. It would take a second or two to change screens. I'd check Task Manager and see just about every app on the phone running and I'd kill them, only to see them all running again a minute later. I'd have to remove the battery and reboot to get Wi-Fi or bluetooth to connect properly.
Then I started googling and discovered this: You don't need a task manager. Android runs background apps - even ones you didn't start - in order to keep them handy, or to refresh data, or just to keep them updated, and THIS IS NORMAL behavior, and it doesn't burn up your battery. If you screw with this, you will prevent your phone from functioning in an orderly manner. Killing tasks in the background will just queue them up to launch in the background later and usually results in more of them being launched at the same time.
So I took Advanced Task Manager off the phone. And everything got better.
You got it correct. No task manager is needed
The Best Buy Mobile guy is an IDIOT. I bet he pushes iPhones like crazy cause "you don't need a task killer" too, right? Imagine what the world would be like if competent and knowledgeable people were hired for better than decent salaries....
do not use a task killer
Infuse has its own task viewer/killer. HOLD the home key and it pops up...
Some Best Buy employees are clueless about these things! I went in there asking for a Asus Transformer in the computer section and the employee had no clue what that was, he even told me himself that he didn't know....:/
Hi guys,
I have a USCC Mesmerize with EC10 PNP w/ none of the pack addons.
I would consider my phone to be very slim. I pretty much only use the camera, sms, mms, internet, & phone.
But still after my phone has been on for a while my process is up to 295/349 MB
I constantly use the stock task manager with Level 2 clear memory option to kill the active process.
When I do this I normally close anywhere from 5-12 process's. Sometimes I will get a drop to around 245MB and other times it will stick around 282MB
On a fresh restart my phone boots up with 164MB
I immediately goto task manager and do a level 2 clearing of the memory and end up closing 10 programs with a RAM use of 131MB
Is there anything out there app or otherwise I can use to stop and prevent all non-critical process's?
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Hi guys,
I have a USCC Mesmerize with EC10 PNP w/ none of the pack addons.
I would consider my phone to be very slim. I pretty much only use the camera, sms, mms, internet, & phone.
But still after my phone has been on for a while my process is up to 295/349 MB
I constantly use the stock task manager with Level 2 clear memory option to kill the active process.
When I do this I normally close anywhere from 5-12 process's. Sometimes I will get a drop to around 245MB and other times it will stick around 282MB
On a fresh restart my phone boots up with 164MB
I immediately goto task manager and do a level 2 clearing of the memory and end up closing 10 programs with a RAM use of 131MB
Is there anything out there app or otherwise I can use to stop and prevent all non-critical process's?
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That sounds pretty normal from what I have seen. Are you having any issues or just like to see the Rom lower?
Actually android by design is supposed to run almost always at full ram/memory compacity. Using a task killer other than stock can give unwanted results. My phone runs the same as yours does. When you kill off task the systen will automaticly reload common and system apps. Its the nature of android. Unless your having really bad performance. I wouldn't worry about it.
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I agree with akellar, that sounds pretty normal. I mean, are you actually suffering any performance issues? If you're not, then you're just worrying about nothing.
Similar stuff here. I use the level 2 clear as well, but mainly to save battery. I run the clear,just before I set it down for a no use period or prior to bedtime and it saves battery big time.
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No not really any performance issues. Sometimes but its infrequent enough that I couldn't describe it.
That was mainly my thought was saving on battery.
Why have all this crap running if you aren't using it?
Technicly its not running. It is suspended. While it is in ram it isn't using any processing power until the app is brought to the foreground meaning you are using it. Android does this so these apps are ready to go when you need them. I quit using task killers other than the stock one a while back and noticed a big jump in battery and performance. I though they were helping me when in reality it was hurting me. Take a read on android and how it handles multi tasking. It explains it really well. I wish I had a link handy hut if you google it you will find several articles on it.
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Yeah, you are actually wasting battery by having the screen on in order to end tasks that aren't actually running.
Either way, my battery lasts longer. I understand the logic, but in reality - my battery lasts longer.
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I've read probably 20 or 30 articles on this explaining bboth sides and hundreds of user opinions who say to use them, don't use them, use them once a day, etc and why they think that. I really think it depends on what you do with your phone, because in my personal experience I am a heavy user of my phone, constantly switching applications and loading browsers and whatnot. If I don't use a taskkiller then my phone becomes unresponsive and almost unusable at times. I know you're supposed to stay away from them and I have tried that but it is really obvious that it is useful when I can press a button and have my phone actually work again.
For somebody like the OP that just uses it like a normal phone and not a computer like I do, you probably shouldn't use one unless you are really getting slowdowns. It all depends on what exactly is using the memory and not getting killed by the system.
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I agree to an extent. I use the paid version of system panel to monitor apps like that from time to time. I use the stock task killer and do a level two kill after I have been on my phone switching between programs and such. And it does make a difference is performance. Depending on what you are dping depends on whether you should use one or not. I thinl the big depate is whether you should use an auto kill function. Its one thing to kill all task here and there to improve performance but another to have an app doing it every five or ten minutes. I think that's were the big battery drains happen. Anyway. To each there own and if they see it helps them in how there phone performs and are happy with the results, then maybe a task killer ia for them. For me. I just use the stock task manager and it works fine.
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I just noticed that if I repeatedly press to kill apps, it always frees some space - there is never 0bytes freed, even if I press it twice within the same second. I don't know much about android's architecture, but in software programs that indicates a memory leak somewhere. Is this the same?
im not an expert either but from what i've read, i believe its because when you kill apps with the app killer, some apps are restarted (such as necessary ones that the phone needs to run) and that causes some memory to be used again.
dont worry too much about killing apps in android, if apps aren't being used and are in the background, it is suspended and doesn't use the cpu. memory is cleared when needed automatically
Yea some apps just restart. Thats why if you close out all your apps and go back in a few seconds later, some are open again.
No big deal. I also use Go Launcher with its app killer tab in the program menu.
Alright, cool. Just wanted to know.
Hi
I wanted to discuss and find some solution for it. I have Huawei g610 phone with Android 4.2.1.
I have installed almost 50apps not more. I am quite selective for apps and keep only the ones i like and delete the rest. I have also installed "Clean Master" and keep cleaning the junk. I am not much into games as well, i have some installed like subway surfer, temple run etc. but i don't play it all the time. I am also battery saving person and don't allow the apps running in the background. I long-press the menu button and it shows all the apps running in background. I remove them from background running when not in use. I just keep SMS and Phone app running in background.
When i am using the phone either for any purpose, whether it be the internet-based apps like Skype or viber or whatsapp or the phone itself. When i use it more than 15min constantly the "clean master" gives a notification that device is heating up. I click for it's solution and it frees the memory a little bit. The thing i wanted to ask is, why my phone is heating up so much? is it normal? does it also happen with Samsung phones as well. I accept that Huawei is low priced phone with Quad core and 1GB RAM. Will my keeping use even if it keeps over-heating - damage the CPU in long run?
Please help me out in this regards.