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External Antenna for LTE?

Looking to get better LTE signal in my house where I get 0-2 bars, signal is there but sketchy at times.
Has anyone tried the external antenna port on the bottom back of the phone? Will this adapter work?
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_external_antenna_adapters.html
Then add this antenna:
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_all_bands_8db_panel_indoor.html
Wilson electronics AWS LTE booster isn't offered till mid June according to their sales department. Looking for something to get me by till then.

What is your signal strength in dBm?
With those antennas, I believe they should work with the TB, but how well they will actually work is another question.

Where do I find dBm or what app?

Settings >> About Phone >> Network
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Im seeing -92 to -99

wakestrong said:
Im seeing -92 to -99
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that isnt too bad dude. not bad enough that i would buy an antenna. but you if you want to then i prob wont be able to convince you otherwise.
as far as will it fit? yes
will it work? yes
how well will it work? prob not as well as it should
as a side note Verizons 4G is not in the AWS spectrum but rather in the 700Mhz Block for LTE and VZE operates voice and 1X at 850 and evdo 3G at 1900 (pcs)

its not your phone, LTE is just not as good as it should inside homes, i really dont know why so I wont be able to answer that. My signal strength is -75 and I still get spotty coverage at home, sometimes it could go hours without dropping and sometimes it will drop like crazy. It is kinda crazy but it is what it is.
I can go outside and go to work 3 miles away and walk to the next block and as long as I am outside it works great. I think its just my house, or something lol. I dont know I have given up on it.
Oh by the way the bars dont represent the signal strength of 4g, the techs told me that it is only the voice signal strength and the bars have nothing to do with 3g or 4g signal. That was confirmed from 3 different techs.

Well I guess I can relate it to knowing what it could be and not getting it all the time. A lot of the time its 1-3 mbps and then if I hold the phone upside down, touch the tv antenna and do a flip right before I hit the speed test button I get 7-13 mbps. Seriously though I noticed it does better in certain parts of the house which is why I thought a antenna might help?

ddarvish said:
that isnt too bad dude. not bad enough that i would buy an antenna. but you if you want to then i prob wont be able to convince you otherwise.
as far as will it fit? yes
will it work? yes
how well will it work? prob not as well as it should
as a side note Verizons 4G is not in the AWS spectrum but rather in the 700Mhz Block for LTE and VZE operates voice and 1X at 850 and evdo 3G at 1900 (pcs)
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Yea my bad, Wilson electronics will release the AWS (T-Mobile 4G) first then the LTE will follow shortly after that AWS release.
http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/uploads/docs/Press Releases/4G_Signal_Boosters.pdf

nkd said:
its not your phone, LTE is just not as good as it should inside homes, i really dont know why so I wont be able to answer that. My signal strength is -75 and I still get spotty coverage at home, sometimes it could go hours without dropping and sometimes it will drop like crazy. It is kinda crazy but it is what it is.
I can go outside and go to work 3 miles away and walk to the next block and as long as I am outside it works great. I think its just my house, or something lol. I dont know I have given up on it.
Oh by the way the bars dont represent the signal strength of 4g, the techs told me that it is only the voice signal strength and the bars have nothing to do with 3g or 4g signal. That was confirmed from 3 different techs.
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Good to know. If I go a quater mile outside my house I can get full signal with 40mbps download speeds. I have been in other peoples houses and had a fast connection so I think it does have to do with where they are located. Anywhere in Plano its in the 20-40 mbps range. My friend said in Houston he received 55 mbps download speeds. Must be something with upgrading the towers and this new equipment, I just hope they get it figured out.
BTW- I have Clear Wimax and it is somewhat reliable but with full signal the latency and download speeds are lacking compared to LTE. I made a video showing this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCAdDurQDVQ

Ok,
So I have an adapter and an antenna, but my Samsung Charge has 4 ports. One L1R2, one L2, one R1, and an odd smaller sized one G.
Im assuming that the 3 normal ports are for its MIMO ability, but Im getting reduced signal not increased signal in each port.
Any thoughts?

I dont know if you purchased it or not yet but Verizon sells a device that increases the signal throughout your house without having to plug it into your phone. If you need a link just say but I would much rather that from the company I bought the phone than some off brand thing that may or may not work.
Plus the Verizon would would work with all Verizon phones in your house.

nkd said:
its not your phone, LTE is just not as good as it should inside homes, i really dont know why so I wont be able to answer that. My signal strength is -75 and I still get spotty coverage at home, sometimes it could go hours without dropping and sometimes it will drop like crazy. It is kinda crazy but it is what it is.
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My indoor experience has been exactly the opposite. My office is smack in the middle of this concrete and steel WWII-era building
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and my phones have almost never shown 3G, including the TBolt.
Since 4G came on last Friday testing in Indy, I have seen consistent 4G signal. That is consistent with the lower frequency being better at penetrations. In fact, it prompted me to put the Internet Connection widget on my desktop so I could turn off data instead of watching a huge battery drain.
That said, at home in a 4G fringe area, the only way to get 4G in my house is to walk to the window facing the direction of the tower. And the signal strength holding to the glass is about 10dB higher than just a few feet back.

kierandill said:
My indoor experience has been exactly the opposite. My office is smack in the middle of this concrete and steel WWII-era building
and my phones have almost never shown 3G, including the TBolt.
Since 4G came on last Friday testing in Indy, I have seen consistent 4G signal. That is consistent with the lower frequency being better at penetrations. In fact, it prompted me to put the Internet Connection widget on my desktop so I could turn off data instead of watching a huge battery drain.
That said, at home in a 4G fringe area, the only way to get 4G in my house is to walk to the window facing the direction of the tower. And the signal strength holding to the glass is about 10dB higher than just a few feet back.
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hook a brother up with a job.. loookin to work for raytheon in LA.. lol

miketoasty said:
I dont know if you purchased it or not yet but Verizon sells a device that increases the signal throughout your house without having to plug it into your phone. If you need a link just say but I would much rather that from the company I bought the phone than some off brand thing that may or may not work.
Plus the Verizon would would work with all Verizon phones in your house.
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Yeah,
Im not looking so much to improve call quality as I am looking to get 4G on a fringe area. Overcast days we get 4G from the reflection of the clouds, so I figured if I put a yagi on it I should be able to get 4G on a normal day.
I tried the normal connector that VZW normally sells for aircards. It cause a loss of signal in every port. But I looked at my neighbors Thunderbolt and saw that it had the same little port that my phone has that is marked G.
I ordered a plug for it and we will see if I get any boost from there.

So any good advise on making an external antenna for the thunderbolt? Has it been confirmed that the rubber round hole under the kick stand is indeed an external use for LTE antenna?
I talked with 3gstore and they recommended the use of the Wilson Electronics 801865 4G Verizon LTE Cell Phone Booster 70dB Adjustable Gain In-Building Wireless 700 MHz LTE Smart Technology Signal Booster but then again, that cost $350+.... can a simple hookup connector be connected to the phone with an outside antenna?
Thanks for your time,
David

By any chance you got a friend with an LG Revolution?
That phone will tell you for your dbm for 1X,3G, AND 4G.

I drove a truck for 5 years. Wilson has been selling this crap in every truck stop in America for at least as long and I've seen a lot of people buy it. The stuff I've used (other people's stuff) really hasn't done anything that I can tell. To me, it seems like a massive marketing gimmick. The stuff that actually connects to a connector on the device might show promise, but I'm not a fan of some 6 foot coax cable hanging off of a delicate connector soldered right to my board. I'm not really sure how effective any LTE solution would be either, since the LTE specification calls for dual antennas.
Bottom line: I've pretty much everything I've ever seen come from Wilson Communications is over-priced gimmicks that lack any sort of verifiable functionality.

I agree with the other driver. Most of the antenna stuff sold is a gimmick. I have a Verizon extender in my house. It only works on call quality. I only have. 1 EV signal at home with the extender. And it does not improve that. so I know that won't help the 4G signal get any better. But the extender does at times interfere with other cell phone calls of my neighbors within range of it.
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OK so i have heard what not to get but haven't heard what to get in order to increase my bars on the phone within the house.
David

[Q] NS4G Nexus S 4g, very poor signal, seeking advice

Hello all,
I just received my new Nexus S 4G for Sprint yesterday (5/14) and I love the phone, but I have just awful service on my phone.
I live in Princeton, NJ, which is a town notorious for not having the best service (for all providers) to begin with, but compared to my Epic4G that I came from, there is definitely something wrong with service for my NS4G. Note: there is no 4G here, so I cannot test that.
There are not much discussion of poor signal for the NS4G here on XDA, but there are numerous reports from people having similar problems elsewhere, i.e. http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/67927?start=0&tstart=10
I will describe my problem...
Calls and texts, MMS, works just fine... however, my 3G service is abysmal. Running speedtest.net, half of the time I pull in 30-40 KB/s, occasionally (maybe 1 out of a dozen times) I can pull in 40-80 KB/s. The other half of the time, either speedtest refuses to run because of network problems, or I literally pull in 3-6 KB/s. My browsing experience is horrendous, almost useless, downloading apps from the market is a 20 minute ordeal.
I have been able to connect to a WiFi network, and everything seems OK from that standpoint.
My fellow XDA users, I seek advice from you all...
I know that the NS4G is brand new to the Sprint network, and is the first CDMA nexus phone. I know that other phones have launched with similar problems, and they usually receive fixes relatively soon...?
Do you think I should try swapping my NS4G for a different one? In my opinion, I think if I swapped the NS4G, I would just have a different phone with the same problems.
Should I wait 30 days and see if service improves by then?
Anyone with similar experience? Suggestions? Switch back to Epic4G and wait it out (noooooo! )?
Thanks

I'm having the same problems, except I'm pulling slightly higher speeds than you. I've talked to sprint and they got a tech to come check out my towers and they'll let me know by monday if its a tower problem, or if it's just slow speeds in my area (its not my phone as i'm able to pick up normal speeds in other areas). I'm giving sprint a week or two to clear this up or else i'm taking the phone back within the 30 days.
also, did you try updating your prl/profile? it's unlikely that it'll help, but worth a shot.

I get around 3mbps on 3G
And around 5-6 and sometimes 7 mbps on 4g
Som im clearly not having this issue, but i will go roaming after the phone falls asleep for a while.

same problem
Im having the same problem I only had the phone 12 hrs I thought mayb it was da tower den I did a speed test between my epic n the ns4g n the epic blows it out the water not on da speed test app but in real life testin like pullin up web pages

The signal is weird. Signal strength at work on my Epic was 5-6 bars. Nexus S 4G is 1-2 bars. Signal strength is between -76 and -92. I forget what my Epic was pulling in actual numbers strength wise. Speed is the same awful crap though on 3G.
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I've had two Nexus S devices on Sprint and they both exhibit the same weak wireless reception. In real life I would say the differences are minor or insignificant but I was hoping for better or at least same radio reception as my almost 3 year old HTC Hero and clearly that isn't the case. Hopefully Sprint can rectify this in the future with some sort of update since I'm not aware of T-Mobile users having similar problems which would indicate an actual hardware flaw(?).

I'm almost sure its a sprint side issue. I left sprint for 3 months and came back and I've had an epic, evo, and nexus exhibit the same behavior. Before I left sprint I had zero issues and I've owned all of their smartphones and one point or another. It just seems like its slower in certain areas though.
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try updating PRL

Since our phones don't accept network pushed updates you're going to have to do a manual prl update. If that hasn't been done your service will suffer. That should help a bit.
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I've tried all the tricks, updated profile, PRL, reactivated my phone, etc.
Nothing is working...,
I've also noticed (completely unrelated issue) that my earpiece speaker crackles at any volume; its subtle but very annoying.

This seems to be an issue for people with the nexus. My old phone had full bars whereas with the nexus I'm only getting 1 or 2 bars on 3g. Seems to be an issue with their towers or Google. Its an issue with their network and not the phone. I spoke to sprint earlier today and they said they are aware and working to resolve this. So they say if course..
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Update (end of day 2):
For the last 5 - 6 hours I have been receiving moderate to adequate 3G service, albeit pretty inconsistent.
I now average 70-120 KB/s, and rarely drop below the lower 70s. This is more on par with what I was getting with my Epic4G for the last 6 months, always pulling in around 120-170 KB/s pretty consistently.
I've run 240 speedtest.net tests today, lol.
I hope it never goes back to how bad it was yesterday and this morning.
Time will tell, -- I'll let you know what happens.
I spent a good deal on the phone today with Sprint, 1 out of the 3 people I spoke to said that spotty reception on the NS4G was a known problem and engineers were at work fixing it. The others had no idea what I was talking about. I don't know what to believe.

Awww man you gotta be kidding me... I already get awful speeds with my Evo and now it's even worse with the Nexus 4g... the phone i'm planning on getting?!?!? this sucks =/

Anyone else's uploads constantly double or sometimes triple that of their download?
My last 5 3G speedtests in kbps
182/325
307/488
99/469
47/169
59/152
There is something seriously wacky with the way the radio is acting.
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Update (Morning of day 3):
Everything is back to crap again this morning. FML, lol
Edit:
Each speedtest.net test keeps returning downloads between 5 - 15 KB/s

I'm getting crap 3g speeds as well, up and down

Ditto. 3G reception at least 30% weaker than my Evo. Side note, my battery life has been crap too, I wonder if the phone is using more power trying to hold the signal?

I spent a little over an hour on the phone with sprint yesterday for this same issue. They trouble shot my phone, prl updates, network refreshes, nothing worked. They told me I had a defective unit and to exchange it. I went to best buy and the rep had an evo. He had full bars in the store, his dBm was -76 or whatever, it was in the 70's. Mine had 0-1 bars and a dBm of -96. He activated my new phone and checked it, same exact thing. He got sprint on the phone and they made him go through all the same bs prl updates and stuff. After a half hour, they told him they were looking into the issue.
Ive seen alot of people say its AOSP that causes the poor reception, and that is true to an extent. The EVO running CM does not get the same as sense roms. I live in a basement apartment, I know. On sense, my evo sent an mms message almost instantly. On CM, it wouldnt send them at all and it dropped calls like nobodies business.
When it comes down to it though, the radio on the Nexus 4G is just not performing well. I hope there will be some sort of update from google or sprint to address this in the very near future, or I will have left Verizon and sold my Thunderbolt for no reason...

I hope this issue can be fixed with a software update. I would like to know within the 30 day return period so I can get back on an evo running cm7 if I need to.

This is getting blown out of proportion in more ways than one. YES, the Nexus S 4G does not have as great of signal reception as the EVO or Epic. This is already well known. However, just like the iPhone 4 when it came out, the AOSP version of 2.3.4 on the NS4G doesn't display signal bars properly. That's part of the problem. But when you dive down into actually how many dBm's you're getting - that's where the problem lies.
In San Francisco, I typically get 600-1000kbps on 3G and 4mbps-8mbps on 4G WiMAX. Lately, after continually attempting to update the PRL on the device and so on, I've gotten results like the one below. This is on 3G in Daly City, CA just outside SF.
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Does anyone else get lower signal bars than previous phone?

On my S7 Edge I always had near full bars. On this one(same sim card and service-cricket) I get lower bars but my speed is incredible and even faster than previous phone. I get a 8.84 MBPS Download and 3.95 MBPS upload which is on par considering Cricket limits to 8 MBPS. My bars are never full though or even close. Could this just be a firmware error?
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The one issue I'm having is constant drop of data ... playing online games I can see my ping range from 4 green lights to 2 Orange light a then back to 3 green.lovjt . It never stays in one spot which causes very bad lag...idk if this is an isolated issue...but I will reset the entire phone and such tonight to try and start "fresh" to see...

Opposite for me. Coming from LG v20, Wi-Fi and carrier speeds are much much better.
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johnwayne27 said:
On my S7 Edge I always had near full bars. On this one(same sim card and service-cricket) I get lower bars but my speed is incredible and even faster than previous phone. I get a 8.84 MBPS Download and 3.95 MBPS upload which is on par considering Cricket limits to 8 MBPS. My bars are never full though or even close. Could this just be a firmware error?
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The amount of bars really doesn't matter, it's your signal strength that matters. Look in about phone and status and you should see a range of -80 to -120 dBm. -80 being great and -120 being worse. Ever go to a football game or large concert and have "full bars" but a crap connection? The tower may be close but can't handle the amount of people connected. Sometimes they have COW's (Cell on wheels) that's set up to prevent this from happening at large events but still may affect you.
Anyways, the only issue I have is switching from WiFi to 4G it seems that my connection isn't that great until I turn on and off airplane mode.

You can get a app like signal check .... That will give you your connection in decibels..... That's the true bars ..... Sprint used to always show 1x as bars... You could a call and have no data
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car.los.7399 said:
Opposite for me. Coming from LG v20, Wi-Fi and carrier speeds are much much better.
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Same here, my V20's wifi and 4g reception was weak as hell. I'm consistently 1-3 bars higher and I've got signal in places I didn't quite have before.

Outbreak444 said:
The amount of bars really doesn't matter, it's your signal strength that matters. Look in about phone and status and you should see a range of -80 to -120 dBm. -80 being great and -120 being worse. Ever go to a football game or large concert and have "full bars" but a crap connection? The tower may be close but can't handle the amount of people connected. Sometimes they have COW's (Cell on wheels) that's set up to prevent this from happening at large events but still may affect you.
Anyways, the only issue I have is switching from WiFi to 4G it seems that my connection isn't that great until I turn on and off airplane mode.
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So then is this good? If so, ATT nesds a firmware update to correct the bars to reflect the signal. Btw thanks for letting me know that. Its a big relief lol I almost signed up for ATT's $90 plan. Glad I asked on here
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So then is this good? If so, ATT nesds a firmware update to correct the bars to reflect the signal
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-73 is a very good connection.
And as for your statement, not necessarily something AT&T will do. Here's an article for you:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.digi...-your-smartphone-mean-we-asked-an-expert/amp/

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-73 is a very good connection.
And as for your statement, not necessarily something AT&T will do. Here's an article for you:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.digi...-your-smartphone-mean-we-asked-an-expert/amp/
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That is an excellent article. Thanks for that!
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About the same to more bars on my s8+ then the s7e

Even that article has it, while being in the -7X range is really great signal, you "can" see signal near -50. I've wireless devices at locations that sit in the low -60s. So not having perfect bars is definitely understandable at -73.
Anyway you shoot it tho, the signal bars are worthless unless you get used to what they mean for your phone mfg.
This actually all blew up big with the antenna gate with apple (though I imagine many forget it now), where people would drop reception depending on how they held their phone. Their bars were worthless and you had to put the phone in a dev like mode to see it in dBm. Then you had a realistic idea of what was actually happening (if you were seeing signal drops or not.)
I remember putting my hand in the "death grip" and seeing normal bars on the iphone but you'd switch it over to read dBm and you'd do it and be at -119 to -120 which is bad. Would be -7x to -8x sitting with no one touching it.

Question Cellular Signal Not as good as other phones? 4g LTE/5g T-mobile

I own two Samsung Galaxy a32 5G phones on T-Mobile. Prior to this I owned a pixel 3A, and also I own a LG Stylo 4. While using the Samsung GalaxyA32, one thing that I've noticed is that the signal pick up for the cellular service is not as good as the pixel or the LG Stylo 4. The pixel and the LG Stylo 4 utilize only the 4G LTE signal. This one obviously has the 4G LTE, and the 5G connection. What I'm noticing is that in places where there is low signal and able to make phone calls using the pixel 3A and also the LG Stylo 4 but I'm unable to do so with the Samsung Galaxy phone. Initially I thought it was just a problem maybe with the 5G, and the 5G switching over with to the 4G LTE, and during that network switch that could have led to drop calls. Therefore what I have done is change the mobile networks to only 4G LTE 3-g, 2G, connection. Even with that I am seeing that the pixel, and the LG Stylo for having a better connection with the 4G LTE and that of the Samsung Galaxy A 32. I do not believe it is a defective phone since I'm having the same issue with two of the phones. I've called T-Mobile before, and made sure that I have a latest SIM card, I've also done Network resets. And even Factory resets. I did not think that now was a time where different phones got better signals than others, like Nokia did back in the 90s. Is anyone else having a similar type of issue? I have been updating the software as it comes out as well. Otherwise its a good Free Phone....

The modem in the A32 is not that great. At my house I get around 6-10mbps over 5G while the recent OnePlus Nord N200 5G thats now free gets upwards of 40mbps which is on par with my other devices.

I also got this phone for free through T-Mobile by turning in my Moto Z2 and I am not so happy about... Sure it was 3 year old phone but at least it wasn't as cheap as this.
I'm not sure about mobile data being slower or worse than other 5G phones but It wouldn't surprise me at all.. The Wifi (chip?) they use I know for sure is cheap, as it doesn't work or connect with cameras I use for work remotely. It also disconnects from my home wifi or has poor range. My mom got the same phone with the trade in and same problems. I'm planning on selling it while it still has some value and going back to Motorola or even a google pixel.
I understand it being a budget phone but to cheap out one of the most important aspects of a phone is just bad.

I have both Oneplus N200 5G and Samsung A32 5G. Both on Tmobile and I have no issue with Samsung MTK chip, in fact, it out perform SD480 modem with 5G.
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There's a big difference between signal strength and data transfer speed.
You can have good signal strength but poor transfer speeds, but not vice versa.
Try clearing the system cache and a network reset.

This device built-in antenna or modem may not be the best for your T-Mobile LTE connections...

Tried again just now. Samsung a32 still get better result compare to oneplus n200.
Oh well..
Samsung is under a326usqu3auf7
Oneplus is under 11.0.1.5de18cb

All my A32's act the same in a rual area 5G unreliable etc etc data will stop working until airplane mode or disable 5G.. The OnePlus Nord N200, iPhone 12 Pro Max, OnePlus 8T,etc dont have that issue.
Also in some of your screenshots says XFINITY like you tested it over WiFi

hyelton said:
All my A32's act the same in a rual area 5G unreliable etc etc data will stop working until airplane mode or disable 5G.. The OnePlus Nord N200, iPhone 12 Pro Max, OnePlus 8T,etc dont have that issue.
Also in some of your screenshots says XFINITY like you tested it over WiFi
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LOL, you sound like I am providing fake testing. I am using N200 myself beause faster facial recognition. However, the fact remain that A32 is faster for me. Here is another shot while during the testing.
But, it is possible all depend on where user live? I am couple blocks away from T-mobile HQ in Bellevue WA.
BTW, I literally PM uninstall all t-mobile packages off both of my phones. why don't you do the speedtest between your N200 and A32 since you also have both, curious what is the different?

My issue is not just speed, its the point that the A32 will loose data randomly.
Example I put an A32 and N200 in the window facing my cloeset tower turn on hotspot let them sit there, within 30 min the A32 will drop the connection and or drop down to LTE while the N200 stays connected for days on end without issue. Granted I'm more rural but its the point the N200 holds on a consiant 30mbps while the A32 cant even maintain a connection. In city areas its fine.

hyelton said:
My issue is not just speed, its the point that the A32 will loose data randomly.
Example I put an A32 and N200 in the window facing my cloeset tower turn on hotspot let them sit there, within 30 min the A32 will drop the connection and or drop down to LTE while the N200 stays connected for days on end without issue. Granted I'm more rural but its the point the N200 holds on a consiant 30mbps while the A32 cant even maintain a connection. In city areas its fine.
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i usb tether my a326u1 and it never drops, maybe you have a faulty one? maybe network depriorisation?

financeledger said:
i usb tether my a326u1 and it never drops, maybe you have a faulty one? maybe network depriorisation?
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USB tether same thing. Cant be faulty all 4 of them do this... If it was network depriorsation that would affect the N200 and OnePlus 8T as well which it doesnt. Granted the A32 works great in populated areas where signal is good, but rual areas it fails while others are still fine.

You guys may want to Google what bands each phone is compatible with. That's likely what's going on here.

No big deal, but I must say I'm a little confused that people in this thread seem to be confusing cellular "speed" (Mbps) with cellular "signal strength" (dBm), at least that's what it appears to be when I skim this thread.
If people are equating them, then that's fine - I won't quibble (as they're somewhat tangentially related even as they're two completely different measurement units of different things altogether).
What caused me to open this thread was the title said "Cellular Signal" even as it doesn't discuss anything about cellular signal strength.
If it's only about speed tests, then maybe the title can be edited by the OP, but if it's really about cellular signal strength, there are a bunch of good free ad free gsf free apps which measure & report cellular signal strength (usually it's measured in decibels of varying types) in a moving graph (the graph is the important part as the numbers themselves can fluctuate wildly).
Cellular-Z by JerseyHo
LTE Discovery by Simply Advanced
Mobile Trace by RFAssurance
Signal Spy by Novvia

The signal strength is easy to view in settings...

blackhawk said:
The signal strength is easy to view in settings...
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Yes. Thank you for clarifying. I wasn't clear enough. I'm sorry.
This will get you instantaneous signal strength readings.
Android 11 Settings.
Tap About phone.
Tap Status information.
Tap SIM card status.
Scroll down to Signal strength.
This is your instantaneous signal strength in dBm & asu.
By way of additional useful signal strength functionality, most (if not all) of the free ad free apps I previously listed not only provide a moving real-time graph of that same instantaneous cellular signal strength in any of a number of measurements (e.g., RSSI, RSRP, RSRQ & SNR) but they also provide the unique tower ID (often down to the exact sector antenna) and the neighboring cells, along with frequency, band, EARFCN, etc.
I think some even estimate the location of the cellular tower on an OSM map (where even the unregistered homeowners' microcells are located on those maps - which aren't usually found on Internet databases).

no clue said:
LOL, you sound like I am providing fake testing. I am using N200 myself beause faster facial recognition. However, the fact remain that A32 is faster for me. Here is another shot while during the testing.
But, it is possible all depend on where user live? I am couple blocks away from T-mobile HQ in Bellevue WA.
BTW, I literally PM uninstall all t-mobile packages off both of my phones. why don't you do the speedtest between your N200 and A32 since you also have both, curious what is the different?
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Just wanna say, it might be doing worse on one device vs the other because the tests are running at the same time so they're both fighting for the limited bandwidth. And whatever device starts first gets the lead and keeps it.

Latest patch (baseband A326WVLU6AUK2, November 1st 2021) sort of fixed the bad wifi signal. However, my 5g signal is still trash with this phone (I'm with Telus).
I just keep it on LTE and it works nicely.

Note 10 Plus cellular reception

Just moved on from the S9 {SM-G960U1) to the Note10 Plus (SM-N975U1) and I'm experiencing some trouble: poor cellular reception.
This is not a lack of signal bars - I know those don't tell the story - this is a COMPLETE lack of service in areas where I usually have service. Today. I brought my second line - a Samsung S8 SM-G950U1 - with me and in about 75% of the areas I travel in, there was a complete lack of cellular signal while using the Note10 Plus meanwhile the S8 was pulling down 50 or 60 Mbps. Where there was a signal on the Note10 Plus, it would pull about 3 or 4 Mbps while the S8 was sitting at 80 or 90 Mbps.
What's going on? I already reset my Network Settings and the next day had my SIM card replaced. This was based on noticing that at my house where 80+ Mbps was routine with the S8 and the replaced S9 (SM-G960U1) the Note10 Plus can hardly muster 12 Mbps, usually 2 to 3 Mbps.
AT&T, just upgraded to their top plan with unlimited everything with no data throttling and 50GB hotspot per line. On Android 12 with the most recent updates. Sitting here with ZERO bars, no signal, thankful that there is Wi-Fi available.

Try in safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps.
Clear SIM toolkit data.
Network reset and clear system cache.
Ask AT&T advanced tech support to reset the network on their side.

blackhawk said:
Try in safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps.
Clear SIM toolkit data.
Network reset and clear system cache.
Ask AT&T advanced tech support to reset the network on their side.
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Cleared data, reset network settings, and started in safe mode. ZERO signal. I'll call AT&T again. I called them Monday evening and they reapportioned the card and reset the signal then yesterday i had the SIM card replaced. I'll request advanced support.

*#*#4636#*#*, device info
Access Point Names in connection settings should be this I believe:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

When I was first messing with the phone earlier this week, I came across a menu that had about a dozen radio buttons to select I think it was network type. I remember it had some options but the top one was Automatic and I think CLTE/????? or something was selected. I got out of there quickly but now I want to look at it to see what the options were.

blackhawk said:
*#*#4636#*#*, device info
Access Point Names in connection settings should be this I believe:
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Here's mine:

I see one difference.
mnc number
If you replace the sim card, do it yourself and handle it like a stick of ram. It can be damaged by ESD, at least discharge yourself to a nearby earth ground before handling. They're a dime a dozen but a failure can be inconvenient and cause a lot of trouble.

I looked into the MNC. 280 and 410 are acceptable for AT&T and it depends on the SIM card number as to which one to use. 280 is correct for mine. Can't edit it anyway. It's locked to the SIM.

This is back home:
I mean, it's better than earlier in the week but I don't sit at home all day. To be sure, I'm perfectly happy with the above numbers. Hell, I'd even be happy if they were halved while out and about.

josiahg52 said:
This is back home:
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I mean, it's better than earlier in the week but I don't sit at home all day. To be sure, I'm perfectly happy with the above numbers. Hell, I'd even be happy if they were halved while out and about.
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Those aren't good either... mind you there's a cell tower half a mile from me.
Maybe take it to a Samsung Experience center at Best Buy and let them run some advanced tests on it. See if they can pinpoint it.
Or return it.

I might be prolonging the inevitable but I messed around with it some more. Can you tell me what the preferred network is shown when you look in the phone info at *#*#4636#*#*

This thing is just junk. I got T-Mobile prepaid just to see if there's a difference and there is. It's slightly better. The same dead spots are there but they're briefer and the service is sometimes faster. Side by side another phone in the T-Mobile store where you know they boost that signal and I could barely manage a third of the other phone. Now, T-Mobile limits the prepaid customer to 65% of rated but it wasn't even close. We made sure we were using the same Speedtest server and he turned off 5G data. I'm going to perform a factory reset and try agdin but that's not going to work. If it doesn't work as a phone, what good is it?

josiahg52 said:
This thing is just junk. I got T-Mobile prepaid just to see if there's a difference and there is. It's slightly better. The same dead spots are there but they're briefer and the service is sometimes faster. Side by side another phone in the T-Mobile store where you know they boost that signal and I could barely manage a third of the other phone. Now, T-Mobile limits the prepaid customer to 65% of rated but it wasn't even close. We made sure we were using the same Speedtest server and he turned off 5G data. I'm going to perform a factory reset and try agdin but that's not going to work. If it doesn't work as a phone, what good is it?
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No issues on either one of my Snaps N975U/1.
Both run well on AT&T. Same sim card for over 2.5 yo.

The phone is not junk. It's a good device. It's just not working here.

josiahg52 said:
The phone is not junk. It's a good device. It's just not working here.
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Not sure what the problem is especially if you have a good signal. My guess is that device itself. I spend little more time then it took to put in the sim card to set up the connection on the newest one.

I factory reset this morning with the AT&T SIM installed. I don't want to speak too soon but at my house, the speed test results are more than 60 Mbps every time. The last five have been over 100. Still have to take it out on my travels and see if there's an actual, real difference but that seems better.

Remember to turn on/off airplane mode when traveling if it has trouble in an area to reset the tower it's using.
Try a hard reboot:
Press and hold the Volume Down button first and don’t release it.
While holding it down, press and hold the Power key.
Keep both keys held down for 10 seconds or more.

I took my S8 and the Note out Thursday morning and compared them. Both are my phones and on the same AT&T plan. The Note just has a very difficult time picking out a good signal. I spent about 5GB of mobile data running speed tests, drove over 100 miles, and walked almost four miles. Where the S8 would aggressively cycle through the bands to maintain some connectivity - be sure, there were plenty of slowdowns - the Note just camped out. RSRP numbers ran -10 or more even up to -20 lower on the Note than the S8 across the board. What I learned is that the signal is not that effective in a lot of areas around my parts but I'm not asking for that or super-fast speeds. I just need to look stuff up from time to time and stream music. Most importantly, i need to be able to use my phone as a phone. It can't even do that well. Maybe it's defective but I'm not willing to go through this again. Looking at the Xperia. Had Sony phones in the distant past and looked at them before I got the S9 a few years ago. Just started looking, not really sure what I'll do.

Something about that copy. I'm not seeing that issue with either one of the two I own. My download speed was substantially higher.
Try a hard reboot:
hard reboot:
Press and hold the Volume Down button first and don’t release it.
While holding it down, press and hold the Power key.
Keep both keys held down for 10 seconds or more.