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You know what would be nice, a pinned topic with all relases available with downloadable links.
No comments what so ever just a place where anyone can go and choose a version that he like and download it.
Of course small description of realses OR link to orginal topic with description.
Not a mess
Searching is the key
Have a look on my signature
And it´s better that you come with a helpful idea to improve than just criticize
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it was making a point
You know what would be nice, a pinned topic with all relases available with downloadable links.
No comments what so ever just a place where anyone can go and choose a version that he like and download it.
Of course small description of realses OR link to orginal topic with description.
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helpful idea to improve NOT just criticize
and yes i know this thread form your signature
dont you think it would be a way more convinient to have a seperate thread or even section for apps? this forum is soooo big (a good thing) and really could use a good reorganizing just my point of view
It´s always nice to have new members with fresh ideas, but as we long time users, I got used to the way it is now, of course some changes would be nice and Admin are working on it, just visit the 1st sections.
So know better the site, use it, contribute and then you´ll have more idea what is really needed to improve.
Enjoy XDA!
This is why the Wiki was created. A good place for organising important things in a structured way.
sakej, please do use it and add to it, it will help us all and all future XDAers.
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take a look here
I felt the need to reply here so i just will do so.
I didnt wanna reply in your "Xda Apps" thread,so i'll say it here.
Don't be angry at me,but threads like that one,even if made with good intentions,are creating a mess. In my opinion.
Yes,that thread looks nice as a start,but sooner or later that thread will have 10,20,50 or 100 pages. So,when i come and wanna look for a program,what should i do. browse through these 100 pages.. or.. search. Well here is a better idea. older members here,created already in the wiki sections for free UNI programs. Why you didnt add them there ? It's all on one page,it has also some space for the description of the app. I contributed there with one app,palringo,not much but if everyone adds one,it will be pretty much complete. instead,we have a new thread/section for programs,one more now making the mess bigger,in my opinion. The way that thread started,it looks pretty much as a small start of something like http://www.freewarepocketpc.net , and there you have all. Same not tested on uni as in your "xda apps" thread. Consider this as a suggestion to try improve the existing database and system,for which,i'm sure,most of the members here think it works perfect. i'm one of them. Orb3000's sticky is perfect. Also,i even think it's great that the rom's are not put there as direct download links,rather as thread links,which is cool cuz i get with that click to remind myself what that rom is about when i see the post #1 from the creator of the rom. A direct DL link in the sticky would be bad,in my opinion. In conclusion,i came here recently as a NOOOOB,i read a lot,searched,learned the system quick,and for me it's perfect,i have no reason at all to ask any questions about anything,cuz really,all is already written and said. All in the wiki and in orb3000's sticky In my opinion
But.. i hope i'm wrong. I hope your thread becomes the real thing that we need,so good luck
PalDragan - you may be right with this one, or partial right, but theres something in it for sure
I agree with this that direct links is not a great idea and current system is better for ROMs.
About a thread getting bigger and bigger with time, true thats why I've choose to include only 10 apps in one replay so with search peolpe should get better results (if you know what i mean).
About some apps NOT being tested... since there are lots of different roms available its imposible for anyone to test a full compatibility for a device.
Maybe wiki is a better way to do it maybe you have a right, lets other ppl comment on this
Anyway since Xda Apps was started 10 ppl allready find something there for them self and its on like for 3 hours
In the wiki here, the programs are put into some thematic order. It's easier to find what you want. Also, they are all recommended from people who have run them on their Universal (with notes if ROM specific). I like the idea of a screen shot, though.
My apologies, but XDA Apps thread seems to be a semi-useful collection of bits and pieces posted on various freebie sites for the past 5 years or so and serving nothing but the OP's inflated sense of self-importance. Not sure what makes it important enough for everyone here to pay attention or make it sticky, as OP hopes. Someone is power tripping, methinks...
Why are themes mixed with applications? It's a mess...
Why can't there be one section for themes and other for applications?
I won't say it a mess but Yes, that would be better...
Agreed. There is too much stuff going on with HD2 now, and the biggest problem is the new things fall back and many of the users even don't see the new posts.
I agree.
I´ve been here since Kaiser forum was the "hottest" thing on XDA, but even that is nothing in comparison of the "hottness" of Leo's forum.
Sometimes good things almost get lost with all those topics popping out during the day.
So far, i thank RSS, but separated Apps and Themes fora would be nice.
+1 too Apps & Themes should be separated for easier view or search.
I think thats a great idea
People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
Saying that, you could then have a forum just for tweaks...
The idea is good.... But Johncmolineux is right, it will change nothing....
Xda is like Ali Baba's cave... It's a big mess, but a mess I finally like. At the end I always find what I'm looking for.
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People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I've tried to find a place to post this and did not succeed. And if this is about this section, it's not that wrong to be here. But I've posted here not because I simple want but because I did not find a suggestions section. An Apps and a Thread sections inside the HD2 section of XDA will be very easy to find.
By that way of thinking we should not have 4 HD2 sections, we should only have one... since people make mistakes in where to post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
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Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Can anyone move this to there then?
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People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I disagree, John.
Of course you're correct in as much as SOME people (particularly people new to the site) will always start threads where they want to. But I would say that MOST people (particularly experienced posters) stick to the rules regarding posting new threads in the correct section and those who don't quickly have the errors of their ways pointed out to them!
I also disagree that this particular thread is 'out on place' in the Themes and Apps section. The OP wanted to gauge feeling amongst current users of this section as to his suggestion of splitting the section into two. Who's going to see it if it's hidden away somewhere else on the forum?
Just my thoughts... No criticism of others' opinion meant...
Btw... I would also be in favour of a split.
I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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Yes it would need some hard work... But we could keep this actual sections as the themes section for example, and then the users would report the threads that needed to be moved, that way the moderators won't need to be checking all threads...
What about having actual MODERATORS on this forum??? Cause all those topics that are made dubble and dubble each and every single day are driving everybody crazy I know that for sure!! I scroll down through one page on the forum in 1 minut cause of all the same things I am reading over and over again!
Why isn't the policy here actually being applied??? Why aren't the moderators HARSHER?? (if there are moderators cause I only have seen one here on the Leo's forums).....
I am sure 90% of the people here think like me, especialy when there ar epeople who only register to this forum to make a topic and ask a question and don't bother to search and when they got their answer never bother to look on tthis forum again.......
Really, the policy should be looked after and there should be at leaste 5 times more moderators than there are now!!!
We are missing the important threads through all the b*ll**** and sorry to say this but some people don't have time to spend hours a day on this forum! We have to work/study, I am sure many agree with me!
Seriously, can we clean this **** up?
Guides/How to's: fine
Roms: dumb
Good Luck.
You want to volunteer?
While Venelar lacks tact, I do kinda agree.
Why are roms stickied in this subforum? This isn't behavior I see in other subforums.
If I'm browsing on my gtablet, it requires scrolling through a couple screens of things that haven't been updated in a while to get to a lot of the new posts.
Would people want a stickied thread that has links to all the roms and kernels currently in development? I'd probably be willing to help with that.
I moderate elsewhere, wouldn't be a big deal imo. Anyway, lack of tact aside it is out of control in this section of the board. I've seen complaints on a few threads about it and when the preferred method of viewing this particular forum is through the "buggy at best" xda app (so that stickies are on another tab) from the tablet i think that says a lot.
some guide consolidation/and unsticking rom threads would work wonders to spruce the place up a bit.
You might want to take it up with TheImpaler747. Wouldn't this be something for the moderators to iron out?
Not trying to be aloof - I actually agree with you and had asked for the same, about 2 weeks back.
Maybe guides and how-to's can get their own sub-forum. We have many stickied guids/how-tos/faqs in the g-tab general, and now there is the new gTab q+a.
Maybe put all guides/how-tos/faqs/things that are sticky in their own sub-forum (aka gTab info) and then have q+a, development, and app talk. Seems like that would cover the breakdown of topics a little better.
Also, seriously, who sends a complaint about the number of stickies. Weak.
Development is where Roms belong not pissing and moaning about stickied threads.
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Development is where Roms belong not pissing and moaning about stickied threads.
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Agreed. And posting this thread in the very forum you're complaining about doesn't help matters - it just perpetuates it.
This process of stickying threads that are tried and true and helpful, etc. is followed in many other forums.
As to guides/how-tos... DEFINITE good idea. Just need someone to do it instead of us mods who are swamped as it is.
Thanks.
I think the links should stay about the same if you move everything though, so that's good, lol.
I volunteer myself jerdog
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Development is where Roms belong not pissing and moaning about stickied threads.
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Maybe guides and how-to's can get their own sub-forum. We have many stickied guids/how-tos/faqs in the g-tab general, and now there is the new gTab q+a.
Maybe put all guides/how-tos/faqs/things that are sticky in their own sub-forum (aka gTab info) and then have q+a, development, and app talk. Seems like that would cover the breakdown of topics a little better.
Also, seriously, who sends a complaint about the number of stickies. Weak.
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The how-to's would be great in the "Q&A" forum so people can read those first in hopes they'll read them and possibly get their question answered before posting another thread.
Why not create an all encompassing "G-Tablet Bible" Thread that includes links to how-to's, roms, guides, and other helpful info. Lots of forums implement this method of organization. If the EVO forum can stay clean, this should be able to as well.
Seems like you already have a couple of volunteers that would do it, now it's just a matter of making it, getting it stickied, and erasing the other stickies.
I thought the development sub forum was where developers gathered to exchange hacks and fixes for ROMs. I would of though ROMs ready for play would have their own sub thread... I had requested this as well a week or so back. It is a bit messy. I dont see any reason to bash a guy who is asking for something that would benefit everyone. If we cant play nice together in the benefit of making a better G Tab then i suggest we all return them! It aint a good product without the support of a good community. Just my 2 cents.
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Seriously, can we clean this **** up?
Guides/How to's: fine
Roms: dumb
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I couldn't agree more.
MechAniX.one said:
I thought the development sub forum was where developers gathered to exchange hacks and fixes for ROMs. I would of though ROMs ready for play would have their own sub thread... I had requested this as well a week or so back. It is a bit messy. I dont see any reason to bash a guy who is asking for something that would benefit everyone. If we cant play nice together in the benefit of making a better G Tab then i suggest we all return them! It aint a good product without the support of a good community. Just my 2 cents.
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Very wise words....
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You want to volunteer?
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Yes I do! lol
I started a thread over in the development section with a listing of most of the ROMS and Kernels that were stickied and plan on finishing it after I get home from work. Hopefully this will help in the organization of forums as I couldn't agree more on how unorganized it looks with so many stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12731572
TheImpaler747 got back with me and said he'd look into it as well.
/piss and moan paying off it seems.
Edit: thanks to asdr for helping with that thread!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026660
Thanks thejesus for already doing this.
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TheImpaler747 got back with me and said he'd look into it as well.
/piss and moan paying off it seems.
Edit: thanks to asdr for helping with that thread!
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been working on this for awhile and looking at different ways to sort stuff. Look for some new changes coming....
It seems to me that there is a lot of frustration amongst devs, those in the know, and the unschooled to the ways regarding pretty basic information. Stuff like "is MR2 froyo or gingerbread?". I know I'd be asking and saying some industrial strength stupid and annoying things if I didn't have a good friend in the know. I suppose what I'm suggesting here is perhaps several things. The first would be describing a number of specifications regarding the ROM or kernel at hand. Not just for the latest ROM or kernel, but for all the downloads available on the OP. Usually the change log covers that, but what I'm suggesting here is a certain I uniformity of certain information. That way some noob can go do his homework real fast and not post some stupid question.
The second thought I have is creating the "stupid question thread" (that would grow like a weed, huh?). It would have basic stuff like what the RUU's are, their characteristics, what radios they work with, what the different radios are, setting up ADB, and really basic stuff that I keep seeing posted again and again all over. I was reading through the Tbolt forums months before I got my Tbolt and my last phone was an Incredible so the worlds didn't change a hell of a lot for your average flashing junky. But that isn't everybody's experience. I'm suggesting a thread or the guy that just got his Tbolt and is saying "Now I wanna root it!" then "It's rooted! Now what's out there!" And zap! there's te thread that gives him a rundown of all the basics.
This sound like a good idea to anyone? If so, let me know and I'll work something up.
I am a noob, TB being my first Android phone. When I started reading the forums, my very first thought was: how come I can't find a noob thread that I can actually understand, that explains the basics, etc. It did not exist! Hence al the annoying (to some) posts elsewhere. If such a thread existed it would have been a huge help for me. It could be organized similar to ROM threads, with some introductory remarks, (a radio is XYZ, you flash it this way, etc.) followed by specific questions / comments. I like the idea!
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This is a good idea.. if no one makes one soon ill take it up
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There is no substitute for taking the time to read the various threads and educating yourself. I think the devs do a pretty good job of supporting their work but to ask them to put together super noob threads and FAQs is just not something they're gonna do with any regularity.
The reason why no one has done it is because all of the noobs are to lazy or ignorant to read those threads, then continue to post their stupid and already-answered question anyway, flooding the threads as usual.
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I think it sounds like a good idea but as stated above people probably won't read it or take it's advice. Typically all the ROM/Kernel threads state EVERYTHING needed to know in the OP. Yet people will still ALWAYS ask something that is answered in the OP. Most people look at screenshots and then jump straight to the download link. This is my 3rd Android phone and when I got the TBolt I read and read prior to rooting. I had one issue that I hadn't seen posted so I asked. Then I ended up figuring it out on my own anyways. If people would just read info prior to downloading and jumping into it they would be fine. Creating a new thread with basics is great but how effective will it truely be?
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I think it sounds like a good idea but as stated above people probably won't read it or take it's advice. Typically all the ROM/Kernel threads state EVERYTHING needed to know in the OP. Yet people will still ALWAYS ask something that is answered in the OP. Most people look at screenshots and then jump straight to the download link. This is my 3rd Android phone and when I got the TBolt I read and read prior to rooting. I had one issue that I hadn't seen posted so I asked. Then I ended up figuring it out on my own anyways. If people would just read info prior to downloading and jumping into it they would be fine. Creating a new thread with basics is great but how effective will it truely be?
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I agree with you 99%. However, there are several cases especially with BAMF threads where there are hundreds of pages and thousands of posts. The OP many times doesn't have solutions to common problems and the only way to find an answer is to spend hours reading through hundreds of pages. (I admit that BAMF is doing much better with their 3.0 RC2 thread). I know you are going to say to search but when a thread is that large it is hard to find meaningful search results.
Google is a noobs best friend. What is an RUU? Google it! What is deodexed? Google it! Etc. Etc. Etc...... The Devs develop. It's our job to educate ourselves. They do this for free. Between the forums and Google, most if not all questions can be answered. The ones that can't be answered is when the forums should be used. Just my opinion.
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Google is a noobs best friend. What is an RUU? Google it! What is deodexed? Google it! Etc. Etc. Etc...... The Devs develop. It's our job to educate ourselves. They do this for free. Between the forums and Google, most if not all questions can be answered. The ones that can't be answered is when the forums should be used. Just my opinion.
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Agree. But, the question "can the X patch from the previous version be used on this version?" People get flamed for asking questions like that and many times there is nothing on the OP.
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Agree. But, the question "can the X patch from the previous version be used on this version?" People get flamed for asking questions like that and many times there is nothing on the OP.
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Because most often.. the dev himself does not know the answer.. and honestly.. the best way to know if something works or not is try it yourself. .. so I can understand when devs get frustrated with people asking certain permutation and combination of patches will work with their roms or not.
Once you understand (which comes with experience and lot of googling).. what affects certain aspects of a rom.. then you'll know yourself if a particular patch will work or not.
Patches from previous roms or other roms.. will never brick your phone.. the worst.. your phone won't boot up.. or it'll boot up and FC like crazy.. in which case you can always restore.
and I agree.. the best way for a noob to educate is google..
googling is an art.. once you get good at it.. there is almost nothing that you can't get information about.
And with some of the responses I just read in this thread is exactly why I haven't rooted my T-bolt yet. I rooted my D1 and really enjoyed flashing different ROMs and Themes but the HTC experience is a bit different from the one on the Motorola. I don't feel like getting flamed for asking something that those of you that have been using HTC long enough now find to be a useless question. I ran Blackdroids ROMs because he had an IRC channel where you could ask questions without being flamed openly in a forum for 100+ to see. I learned quite a bit to where I could eventually help others with it but I'm not at all comfortable yet with Hboot and ADB but hope to learn enough from reading to not bother you with questions you find trivial. I've read for a week now so what's another week
It appears there is a need for what I propose. Regarding those who's complaint is that nobody will read it, I say, at least someone put forth the effort and if someone like, linking to the thread is easy. Indeed looking stuff up for yourself is wise, however, it takes more time for people and all too often you don't know how accurate what your reading is or from what authority the writer speaks. I will agree most devs supply ample info on their work, but often its in jargon that makes no sense or lacks context. Part of the purpose for this thread would be to supply sense and context.
Hopefully over the next few days I can find time to whip something up. I welcome all suggestions and comments for content!
I sent a pm to one of our mods asking if we can get the sticky threads cleaned up. By this I mean unsticky some of the ones that are outdated and no longer maintained by current users of this device.
Im basing this on my own ideas and this post by FB.
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Solrac, it might be better if you would concentrate your efforts on updating our wiki since some information has already been repeated a few times, particularly the roms list. If you wind up putting them in the wiki then other users can edit it once you decide to not update this thread. I've seen it happen to at least two other threads already which is why team acid have moved some of our instructions to the wiki.
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We have so much stuff stickied in the general sub that is out of date. In the development sub there is a couple threads that are no longer maintained.
My question is do you agree we need some of these threads removed from the list of stickies? Ill have a poll please select agree or disagree. If you want to post a response please do, but lets keep this civil aight?
Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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Looks like it's time for YOU to edit the wiki and add a guide that works for you.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I have thought about making a update guide like the bible thread but every time I start I have never finished. Im not fond of the wiki for some of the reasons twisted spoke about, however it can be useful.
Is there a person that is notified when edits are made? So we can make sure the proper info is put on it? Ive never paid enough attention to that aspect.
There's a history option in the wiki that lets you view the latest edits, and see what exactly go changed. (It's up top in the navigation)
The thing is that the lack of information can be addressed by adding it. Twisted said there were no Odin guides, well we can add them. There's no real reason why we shouldn't be using it. I know everyone wants to start their thread with their guide on how to do things their way, but there has to be an accepted method of doing things. I've written up a few of the guides on the Wiki but then someone else comes along and improves it with a better method that is more up to date. That's how it should be, you don't have to go to MY thread to try and edit it or try to get me to update it. You can just go in and do it yourself.
Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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You're completely missing the point.
Let me make it easier.
If info is not in wiki, put info in wiki.
I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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No one can stop another user/troll from putting bad, offensive, or just plan misinformation out there. The maintenance of the wiki is a community effort. Thus we are all responsible for updating it and cleaning it up.
I do like the idea of checks and balances, though. What we need for that effort are maintainers. On top of the community making updates we could have a few people that collaborate to help keep the wiki clean, up to date, etc. The trick would be getting volunteers for Team Wiki (wicked? Wikid! lol) that can put the time and effort into the moderation of the wiki.
Just my 2ȼ.
Nvm, just checked the wiki and it has either been updated or i was blind before, cuz everything i used is in the wiki...
. I'm glad you see that. If someone updates it and starts screwing with the wiki a moderator can always step in. It's basically like the forums, we can't stop you from posting, but once you've posted something that you shouldn't have, we can remove it. We can do the same on the wiki, it keeps track of the edit history, we can always revert to a good version.
Check out this nice list of ROMs available for our phone. It's the most up to date one (thanks to solrac who just updated the list of custom mtd roms portion)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/List_of_ROMs
Thanks FB that was what I was wanting to know. I have the same reservations as anonymous and Stephen. Ive seen wikipedia edited and things slipped until somebody caught it.
Ive spoke with TRusselo and if we can come up with a list of the threads that need to be cleaned and unstuck he is willing to look into is. However since he doesnt own the phone he did not want to jump in unstickying threads willy nilly. I had planned on posting earlier today but I spent a good part of my day fixing bicycles so I can take my kiddo bike riding.
Ill be out most of tomorrow but Ill try to post my list sometime and if any of you want to also suggest it would be great. My thinking is we can always link to the threads via the wiki and maybe create a new version of the bible thread and the FAQ thread Mr. Clown created.
If you want to make suggestions please list which sub the thread is in and the thread name no need to link it. The final list will have links when I submit it to TRusselo.
Well I can say once this idea is completed it will be a lot more user friendly...
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General Sub
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
Froyo flashing guide not really needed since we are on GB, CM7, and now CM9.
Most of the information in this thread is general rules and mostly common sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
This one too has some forum rules and common sense stuff posted. Maybe condense it with the one above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
This one is a PSA and again something that is part of the main rules.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195027
This one is very informative but maybe when Juls updates it he can post it on the wiki.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480418
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Q & A sub
This is a old guide that has since been changed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215748
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Development Sub
Since this thread is very out of date it needs to be unstuck. Most information in this thread has changed and is no longer relevant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
This thread the info is out of date. The second post is useful but the first one is out of date.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
This one if we get official support of RM it will be outdated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305560
All of the above is open for suggestions or even tell me certain threads need to stay as stickies. Im just looking to trim the sticky list down.
I was also thinking each sub could have a thread that has links to the wiki for things. That way even if the person that creates it leaves and never comes back the wiki links will be the same. Then the threads can be linked on the wiki and if a thread is out dated it can be removed from the wiki.
Looks like good suggestions so far.
As far as recreating the bible thread, we can easily do that in the wiki. The roms portion is pretty much set except for roms that haven't been released yet.
The dev stickies are definitely the ones we should get rid of. right now we have 6 stickied threads. They take up a lot of room before getting to the latest content from dev threads.
I agree with creating a bible in the wiki, I was suggesting linking to it in a sticky. I tend to have a hard time expressing my thoughts in few words. I mean you have read some of my posts .
Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
Eollie if you want make a stickie of the rom wiki because I always update this wiki
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Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
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I have not yet had an opportunity to look through your list. Seems FB read through it and I know I trust his opinion. I will look through it later. Thanks for taking the time to get this going.