Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.
The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.
Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.
Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.
n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
youbrokeit said:
according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(
I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.
issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?
Some of this needs to be done from a PC......
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!
Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE
Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks
Ok so when I go into settings on my phone and enter my gmail account information that takes care of sycning for the phone as in contacts etc... and all that but it also serves as my gmail client account. I personally don't like the gmail client at all and I actually like the built in mail client in Android a lot better... However if I delete the gmail profile, it would get rid of my contacts as well as I wouldn't be able to use the market... I don't want both clients taking up memory and checking for new mail etc... How do I disable or even uninstall the gmail client?
Hmm... no one? Is this is the wrong section?
I don't think you would gain anything by trying to remove it (although you can do that on one of the custom ROMs) but you can disable Gmail syncing in Settings/Account and Sync Settings.
Hello
I like the email client that comes with android (the one for accessing secondary email accounts). It does seem to have a major limitation though, you can not move mail around to different folders (e.g. lets say an important message ended up in my spam folder by accident, I can not see any way to move that message to the inbox)
If this is in fact possible could someone please tell me how to do it, but if it is not (which from what I can tell this is the case) can someone recommend an email app that supports this function.
Thank You
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Yes I am using the vanilla/AOSP email app being that I am running cm6
The email account that I am connecting to is my AOL account. I am not 100% certain but I thought AOL uses IMAP.
So I guess the new questions are 1) does AOL use IMAP and 2)does the AOSP email app allow you to move emails between folders
If what you are accessing is a POP3 account, then I believe no email client permits you do do this (as this sounds like a sync function only found in IMAP accounts).
What I found to work best (and easiest) is to have my alternate email accounts foward all my mail to my gmail account, and have my gmail account tag each email with the name of the incoming account (hotmail emails are taged hotmail, etc.).
This lets me recieve all my email with one single app (Gmail), provides me with push notifications for every email, permits me to sync emails effortlessly, an so on.
dsMA said:
Hello
I like the email client that comes with android (the one for accessing secondary email accounts). It does seem to have a major limitation though, you can not move mail around to different folders (e.g. lets say an important message ended up in my spam folder by accident, I can not see any way to move that message to the inbox)
If this is in fact possible could someone please tell me how to do it, but if it is not (which from what I can tell this is the case) can someone recommend an email app that supports this function.
Thank You
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I'd think that any email client can do it, but I personally use K9 Mail and love it, and it certainly does this.
As the above poster says, if you're using POP this might not be possible. IMAP it certainly is. You should not being using POP anyway.
Don't know about the vanilla android one but I know the HTC Email program will let you move between folders.
Have one arriving today. I anticipate my wife and I both will use it. Basing it in the kitchen.
Anyone know of a reasonable way for it to handle email for both the wife and myself? I'm sure we could access Gmail via the Browser, but just wondering if there is a client. Then of course I expect there to be a login / logout for each of us if it is even possible.
You could configure the Gmail app for one mailbox, and the normal Android mail app for another. They are both accessible by different icons
Gmail can monitor multiple accounts but it doesnt really do what you want to do to separate them.
This is one of my biggest beefs with tablets at the moment, there arent multiple logins. Its assumed that everyone is going to have their own personal tablet with their own bookmarks and such like a phone when it isnt the case. Hopefully Google is quick to recognize this and allow multiple accounts to access the device like a Windows machine.
I'm not sure how it is on honeycomb since the gmail app is newer than the one on the market, but on my phone running gingerbread, adding a second google account creates a separate section in the gmail app so that both accounts have unique folders rather than combining them.
You could of course add one through gmail and another through the stock email app, or access one via the browser.
Gmail will handle two accounts just fine. As long as neither of you have problems with the other having access to your account. In the upper right corner of the gmail app you'll have hte ability to switch between mutliple gmail, or google app accounts. The calendar apps will show all calendars in different colors as well and let you filter out only events from certain accounts if you'd like. Same with contacts.
If all you care about is gmail you just un check everything else in the account sync options and you will easily have your two accounts to access.
The android mail app works quite fine with gmail and push messaging as long as its set up for an exchange account and not gmail which seems counter intuitive but works great
You can also put widgets on the homescreen specific to each account.
This is great information. Many thanks!
The ASUS arrived about 15 minutes ago. Charging it now.
I'll experiment with the various thoughts, and post back how I ended up doing it and how it is working out.
Viper2488 said:
The android mail app works quite fine with gmail and push messaging as long as its set up for an exchange account and not gmail which seems counter intuitive but works great
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I wouldn't use the Default Mail app for Gmail. You're better off using the actual GMail app.
I added my wife's account to the Gmail app, and it works great.
IMO, Default email app for gmail is crap compared to the gmail app itself.
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I wouldn't use the Default Mail app for Gmail. You're better off using the actual GMail app.
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Why not? Works great for me and I prefer it. I'm not sure why I'm better off as it acts pretty much exactly the same, and it lists my inbox subfolders better than the gmail app for me.
Hi all,
I don't particularly like the Gmail app, and was wondering if there's a way to get Google Apps email working with the stock email app?
The problem seems to be that because the email address is not @gmail.com, the app can't understand it needs to talk to Gmail for 2-FA and such.
You'd likely have to set it up as IMAP or POP since a non-Gmail app won't interact in the same way as the native Google product.
use imap.gmail.com port 993 ssl/tls
generate a app password if you use two way authentication