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[REQ] De-Sensed vs Non-Sense. Please clarify when posting custom ROMs...

Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms listed as non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we be a little more definitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRULY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truly non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truly Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truly vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
---edited my original post, I can see how the one instance of my use of the word "claim" might make the frustrations of my original post offend them, though no name calling or finger pointing was intended, my bad---

It looks like someone is trying to get his post count up. Lmfao. LEARN HOW TO READ THE TITLE OF OP. If you cant read thats NOT the devs fault. My title is clear as day. Weird how your the only one complaining of an issue thats not even an issue. I saw a commercial for hooked on phonics. Its on sell for 49.99 plus tax. Might be a great investment for you. Rather then bash developers for your own inability to read titles and ops I would get that book.
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Oh and true vanilla aosp roms is not 40-50mb its 80-110mb. Just fyi.
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We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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AndroidAutobot said:
Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms claiming to be non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we PLEASE be a little more difinitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRUELY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truely non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truely Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truely vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
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Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
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computerkid23 said:
We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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Thank you for your more civilized response. I did not intend to imply that you or undead made an error by any means. I apologise (to you, not him, if he had been a little more civilized I might be more remorseful) for any offense I may have brought to you. That was not my intent.
I only intended to bring stronger definition between senseless and AOSP. Which you've provided me and I now understand where I was wrong. It was my mistake, as I understood the concepts of building AOSP from the source and stripping a sense-based ROM, but did not previously realize that what I was looking for was an AOSP ROM built from source and not a sense-less ROM. Given your explanation, I agree and now understand what I previously did not comprehend.
And undead - What are you 12? I wasn't bashing anyone nor did I intend to. You clearly took my meaning completely wrong. I'm confused, it says you joined this community a month ago. Where do you get off trolling a member of this community who's been around here 2 years longer than you have? Cool your jets. Lets try and keep this place civilized and not act like children. If you misunderstand someone or think that someone's being offensive, please take an approach more similar to how computerkid handled the situation. It was simply a misunderstanding and, as such, did not require name calling or any of the absurdly superfluous (if you don't understand the meaning of that word, perhaps you should get some hooked on phonics) insults you've thrown my way. I'm not really going to designate any kind of response past this defense. I'm not trying to troll, these are merely the 2 cents I've earned after what you've just unnecessarily expressed. Chill out dude.

Romanbb said:
Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
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Thanks for the knowledge.
Sorry for posting in this forum, I posted it here because it was a request for any ROMs being posted here in the future, which seemed to bear some relevance until I stood corrected (which I do).
The only other time I've rooted a Sense-based phone was when I ended up rooting my MyTouch3G Slide months after I had owned it, when CM was already available for it. So I didn't previously realize what an endeavor it is to achieve what I'm waiting for.
Given the information I've obtained from this thread, it makes a lot of sense that it would take some time.

Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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So far the devs all seem pretty clear about how they just removed the Sense overlay/UI or some of the Sense / mySense elements and I also hope they continue to be as definitive; it doesn't seem like they're cliaming they're AOSP-based. Usually devs will post when a ROM is AOSP-based or CM7-based so you'll know what you're getting yourself into, and the devs thus far have done a respectable job of defining what they've done, which is for the most part, take the stock ROM and remove just about as much as possible to streamline things.

Undeadk9 said:
Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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Wow youre a piece of work.
It was relevant in the development thread to start, as it was a request for future development (duh). two mere comments in other threads (that did pertain to the ROMs in particular, where this one pertains to future ROMs) is hardly cross-posting as youre acusing me of. And what post in the general thread are you even speaking of? Ive never even been in the general thread for this phone. Youre loosing your mind.
This thread however is clearly no longer relevant because it was based on a misunderstanding of what i was actually looking for. Again... How old are you? I swear my 3 year old nephew is better tempered than you are lol.
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Not to fan the flames but the development section is for active development not requests those go in general or q&a but we didn't get a q&a in our sub forum
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Ok guys enough already. Dev is not for requests or Question threads. I have moved this thread to General. Now as for the rudeness IT STOPS or you will be on the wrong side of a ban. Plan and simple. If you are looking for a certain aspect of a rom please do your research on the rom. If you dont see if something is supported ask the Dev about it. As for the thing you are looking for, if the source code is available then you can build one from source. But with the lack of things i see I am not sure if it is even released.
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[Q] Looking for a GB Rom... at last

Well, after many months of enjoying Cognition 4.4.4 (the most stable version of that rom on my Captivate i879, build 1007), I've concluded that I need to look at upgrading to GingerBread. My phone is getting so it's kind of sluggish, especially with some of the new App updates from the market.
So my question is, which of the GB Roms is relatively easy to load and most efficient for an aging Captivate? I really need smooth and fastish... but most important to me is BATTERY LIFE. I'm used to getting 24 to 30 hours on my baby with moderate use, even with its somewhat aged battery... and I've gotten spoiled.
Mmph. I should also mention that this phone has yet to meet a 1-Click version of anything that doesn't end up soft-bricking it, so that's a factor.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

same rules apply for gingerbread that applied to froyo.
"best rom" is an opinion. best for you is a decision.
what you consider good is not what others will consider good.different roms have different options, you may like different things.
battery life is dependant on what you do, what apps you install, and KERNEL.
roms do come with a kernel. but it can also be changed.
in my opinion in FROYO the best was firefly 3.0 rom with onix kernel.
you want my opinion with gingerbread??? my rom. the one i made. though i may be HIGHLY BIASED.
this thread will be closed soon.

TRusselo said:
this thread will be closed soon.
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Yes... and I apologize profusely for posting what is obviously a question in the wrong section of the forum. I'm usually more on it than that.
I don't mind getting opinions on this, though. The folks who are really about the rom they're into usually say why... and this being XDA, they often do so in detail. Those are the kinds of opinions that make it easier to make informed decisions, and I always appreciate them greatly. And yes, I will give your rom a look, bias or no.
Moderator... if you could please close this thread, I'll set about putting it in the right place, if there is one.

moderators will usually close these threads without being asked as soon as they see them, not because its in the wrong section but explicitly because of the reason i stated above.
xda does not want opinion based threads claiming one rom is better than others. because as i stated, one person will like one thing and others another.
or if you want to know whats popular just look at the "thread views" count of the [ROM] s in the development thread

I personally am on Serendipity for my captivate. I find that it is very stable for everything I need to do. Just an fyi there are also no more updates for this rom so on that note it will stay stable and you wont have to worry about updates for it.

TRusselo said:
same rules apply for gingerbread that applied to froyo.
"best rom" is an opinion. best for you is a decision.
what you consider good is not what others will consider good.different roms have different options, you may like different things.
battery life is dependant on what you do, what apps you install, and KERNEL.
roms do come with a kernel. but it can also be changed.
in my opinion in FROYO the best was firefly 3.0 rom with onix kernel.
you want my opinion with gingerbread??? my rom. the one i made. though i may be HIGHLY BIASED.
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+1
Mabey just a lil bias lol
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Saurom is a really smooth rom with good battery life I found.

SAUROM is good.Have a try.

GB ROMS are like cars, some are built for speed and performance others look good and some give you great mileage...and some have a nice mix of all three, the choice is up to you to test drive a few before you buy and then if you are not satisfied you can just trade it in for another model.
I have found something I like in every ROM/KERNEL (GB KERNEL development is exceptionally good) I have tried but its really a personal preference just as in the car you choose to drive.
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[Q] BinDroid Runmed 2.5 V1.5 Q?

Dear All,
Excuse me if I start a new thread here but it is my understanding that certain questions are not to be made in the development section.
I know much has to do with personal taste, your own experience and research, but I am coming from an HTC Aria, and I am looking for a custom ROM for my Inspire.
There are many ROM's posted that I know and appreciate have a lot of hard work and dedication from developers and unconditional testers and followers, as for instance the specific ROM thread for BinDroid's ROM itself alone has close to 900 posts, so please don't be offended by my questions, as for what I have seen and managed to read it seems to be that this might be what I am looking for:
Is this a stable ROM for daily use?
Are there any trade-off's / sacrifices (camara, video, flash, sound, buttons, gps, etc? that don't work or have limitations?)
I can understand that for many long time users and followers there can be "known issues" , but please understand that for newcommers these are not, so your kind comments will be most welcome.
I thank you all for your support and look forward to your answers and any recomendations that you may have.
Cheers!

I would say this Rom is stable for a daily use. For awhile I was running this Rom for little over 2 months. It's very clean. Its one of the handful of roms out here that works form start to finish. The support from the inspire to the desire hd threads for this is very quick if you had any issue that you may come across. I couldn't remember the last time I.had any major issue when using this. Battery life is great if you do a lot of Pandora browsing uploads like to fb etc. Works for me with my inspire. So would differently say flash this sucker.. its worth it.
If I remember right the only thing I did was a different kernel and a uv script lite other then that bad ass.
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Stormglider said:
Dear All,
Excuse me if I start a new thread here but it is my understanding that certain questions are not to be made in the development section.
I know much has to do with personal taste, your own experience and research, but I am coming from an HTC Aria, and I am looking for a custom ROM for my Inspire.
There are many ROM's posted that I know and appreciate have a lot of hard work and dedication from developers and unconditional testers and followers, as for instance the specific ROM thread for BinDroid's ROM itself alone has close to 900 posts, so please don't be offended by my questions, as for what I have seen and managed to read it seems to be that this might be what I am looking for:
Is this a stable ROM for daily use?
Are there any trade-off's / sacrifices (camara, video, flash, sound, buttons, gps, etc? that don't work or have limitations?)
I can understand that for many long time users and followers there can be "known issues" , but please understand that for newcommers these are not, so your kind comments will be most welcome.
I thank you all for your support and look forward to your answers and any recomendations that you may have.
Cheers!
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Let's first start with, welcome! Secondly, while you're correct dev threads are typically (depends on the dev team or individual developing the ROM) are reserved for development, there are Q&A's for each respective ROM that you should use to ask questions regarding a specific ROM. If everyone created a separate thread about each question they had for each ROM they use you can see how chaotic the forums would get.
The best way to figure out what "issues" a ROM has is to read some of the recent posts in both the Q&A and Dev section, you'll see there what most people are dealing with. Most ROMs here are pretty stable and I would say fine for daily use (ICS has some minor bugs due to source issues but from what I'm seeing there are a couple of somewhat stable ICS builds).Remember this is a development site, so some independent searching and reading is expected on your part.
As for Bindroid, I used it way back when they firsant started with sense 3.5 and loved it. Danny and the team are real nice guys and do great work. I would say that ROM is more then capable of being a stable, daily driver. Just remember, only you can decide what you can live with and c live without. All ROMs come with trade offs, some users don't mind them and don't even consider them trade offs or issues which is why you need to decide for yourself. Goood luck man!

[Q] Development section getting filled with identical Roms

Now that there's tools for the average 13year old to kang up a rom or just re-release a Sense 4 Rom, the development section is getting flooded with identical Roms, I think each Rom thread should have a poll, and if it has had say 100 views after 2 weeks at least 5% of the viewers have to run it, not download, install, remove because its the same as their last rom so they just restore nandroid for all setting and apps back, but run it as daily.
There's 15+ Sense 4 Roms, at least 10 are identical with different wallpapers and maybe hard set leedroid tweaks installed.
They all mention about being deodexed and zip alligned but let's face it, the so called developers have not developed these roms at all and they need to stop.
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Nope. Its because of people like you that dev's leave or stop developing for devices.
You'd rather be picky and pick which developers can stay and which have to leave because of "unsatisfactory" work.
Im sorry, but it doesn't work that way. You really don't have a say in that.
Everyone has to start somewhere and everyone has the right to create a modified or custom rom. Leave them alone.
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OllieArmageddon said:
Now that there's tools for the average 13year old to kang up a rom or just re-release a Sense 4 Rom, the development section is getting flooded with identical Roms, I think each Rom thread should have a poll, and if it has had say 100 views after 2 weeks at least 5% of the viewers have to run it, not download, install, remove because its the same as their last rom so they just restore nandroid for all setting and apps back, but run it as daily.
There's 15+ Sense 4 Roms, at least 10 are identical with different wallpapers and maybe hard set leedroid tweaks installed.
They all mention about being deodexed and zip alligned but let's face it, the so called developers have not developed these roms at all and they need to stop.
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Completely disagree... I mean...what are you doing here in xda? You should be kicked off immediately...
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Dude... Stop being such a turd, I know you may be annoyed by it but each developer has put in hours upon hours sat at a computer just for those roms to work. Each Rom has something different. Without all these amazing developers many people would have left this phone long ago. They are xda. So please stop your moaning.
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Can we please have a mod take a look at this thread? Also, reported.
EDIT: If you read this and it made you feel this way, then I think you should go through the post once more; you've misunderstood it or I have.
EDIT 2: Disagree with the OP, but let's keep this clean, please? Remember the thread is about the ROMs in the development section & not about the Original poster

totally disagree as well.
why don't you use the so called "13 year old tools" you speak about to make your own ROM and take a hike? oh i know why, because you don't know how to use them. you're not only disrespecting XDA and the Devs, you're also disrespecting your device. Android and it's openness is not for people like you.

Please stay on topic guys. The OP makes a valid point which is even talked about on the portal.
There are multiple sides to this "issue". Some might argue that XDA is site for original development, others might say that there a place in this world for every single ROM, no matter how it was created.
In the end XDA is a public forum where we will always have different opinions.
That said, please stay civil here, or the thread will be closed.

I might say, the sensation development section has many ROMs with similar base, but to say ROMs are identical, then no.
And to make a note that every single device is different than the other, one ROM that works perfect for me, might not work perfectly for you, and here comes the benefit of this diversity in ROMs.

Never noticed identical dishes! Seems to be a nice variety of menu items!

Dear sir, you are incorrect!
I totally disagree. If in fact you are bothered
by the options Available here at xda I suggest you FIND ANOTHER forum. I for one am grateful for the options available to me and for ALL the developers here at this forum!.
They all have a very important contribution to this forum. SHAME on you for suggesting otherwise..we are entitled to a opinion I have mine you have yours. :
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I'm not saying they should be all closed down, I'm saying if they don't kick off within 2 weeks - month then should we have a poll to whether they stay open or even get moved to an Early development section, or at least be able to distinguish between succeeding roms and ones with 10 downloads in 2 weeks,
I agree that people need somewhere to start developing, but should there be a lower class development section, then as a Rom grows move it to main development section?
I'm sorry for the grumpy OP, it was early and I missed the days of my HTC Wildfire's development section, each Rom had huge differences and you would pick one to match your life style, now you just pick a base,
The recent post in XDA news about cyanogen wanting people to start a Rom from scratch, build it up completely different from any other, that's what I would ideally want.
I'm sorry again for the offensive OP
I didn't get my banana today...

OllieArmageddon said:
I'm not saying they should be all closed down, I'm saying if they don't kick off within 2 weeks - month then should we have a poll to whether they stay open or even get moved to an Early development section, or at least be able to distinguish between succeeding roms and ones with 10 downloads in 2 weeks,
I agree that people need somewhere to start developing, but should there be a lower class development section, then as a Rom grows move it to main development section?
I'm sorry for the grumpy OP, it was early and I missed the days of my HTC Wildfire's development section, each Rom had huge differences and you would pick one to match your life style, now you just pick a base,
The recent post in XDA news about cyanogen wanting people to start a Rom from scratch, build it up completely different from any other, that's what I would ideally want.
I'm sorry again for the offensive OP
I didn't get my banana today...
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Now, when you calm down and talk in a suggestive manner, I can understand what you mean.
But really, is there that much scope for development? How much can change today?
How ready are you to try something that you know isn't stable?
The fact is if someone were to start off with something new, they surely wouldn't get it right the first time around. Will people be willing to risk their phones to try something new?
These questions need to be answered & any good dev would of course think of these things.
Also, you base so much on visual appearances, what have you used of the ROM that you base these claims that the ROMs are the same on? Have you seen how they work on your device?
When you are talking of the Sense 4.0 ROMs I really wonder how much of a visual difference you expect to see in Sense? Why not download a new skin? It will feel like a new ROM experience if appearance is all that counts.
These are my honest opinions & being a noob, I hope that these opinions don't offend anyone.

I don't see the point in your suggestion. The forum does that by itself, the popular roms stay on the first page while those with less users end up in the pages afterwards.
As long as devs aren't kanging each other without permission I don't see a problem with new roms. Your original argument that the sense 4 roms are all the same is understandable in a way. The devs working on sense 4 are doing an amazing job and they have gotten rid of the majority of bugs. Without thr amount of devs that are working on it, there is no way sense 4 would be where its at on our phones. You seem to be basing this "lack" of variety of roms on the ui. This argument is almost completely irrelevant at this point since the fusion.apk in sense 4 is locked down, and this is the base for the majority of ui changes on sense itself. There's probably 8 sense 4 roms and the majority are made by exceptional devs who are working together on getting sense 4 to the best state possible.
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kgs1992 said:
Now, when you calm down and talk in a suggestive manner, I can understand what you mean.
But really, is there that much scope for development? How much can change today?
How ready are you to try something that you know isn't stable?
The fact is if someone were to start off with something new, they surely wouldn't get it right the first time around. Will people be willing to risk their phones to try something new?
These questions need to be answered & any good dev would of course think of these things.
Also, you base so much on visual appearances, what have you used of the ROM that you base these claims that the ROMs are the same on? Have you seen how they work on your device?
When you are talking of the Sense 4.0 ROMs I really wonder how much of a visual difference you expect to see in Sense? Why not download a new skin? It will feel like a new ROM experience if appearance is all that counts.
These are my honest opinions & being a noob, I hope that these opinions don't offend anyone.
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Im as cool as a cucumber all the time anyway lol
I'm using sense 4 as an example as many have been released in past 2-3 weeks.
I would just like to see more original roms on here

We have GB, ICS, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, Sense 3.6, Sense 4.0, MIUI, AOSP, CM... Right now the devs are working with what bases they have available to them. When JB and KLP get dropped then I'm sure those will make their way here as well, but by then you'll probably have moved on to a newer device anyways.
As was already mentioned, the popular roms stay at the top so the sorting is done automatically. If people don't like a rom it will fall back in the page count and be long forgotten!
If you want, I can make a port of cupcake for you. How different would that be!?

GROGG88 said:
We have GB, ICS, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, Sense 3.6, Sense 4.0, MIUI, AOSP, CM... Right now the devs are working with what bases they have available to them. When JB and KLP get dropped then I'm sure those will make their way here as well, but by then you'll probably have moved on to a newer device anyways.
As was already mentioned, the popular roms stay at the top so the sorting is done automatically. If people don't like a rom it will fall back in the page count and be long forgotten!
If you want, I can make a port of cupcake for you. How different would that be!?
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If you can get it working on newest firmware then yes
Random things like this is what I'd like to see, even a android Linux combo, being able to install android and Linux apps to one Rom would be amazing,
I liked the times when we had things like the HQ Camera mod come out, if smalled devs could work together on projects like that then the Dev section would be filled with newer stuff
I'm not trying to attack devs, just try to see my point, one rom doesn't stand out from another any more

How come nobody is allowed to state their opinion on xda without somebody getting mad? I agree most of the roms are the same. And it my opinion, none of them seem to work right. Bit again, someone will disagree and tattle tail on me to a moderator or say I need to be kicked off because they disagree with my opinion. No one ever said anyone else had to agree with anyone's opinion. If you don't agree then state your opinion and step aside. Nobody needs you spamming threads with **** like "you need to be kicked off" cause someone has an opinion. The OP did not say anything about race religion creed or sexual orientation therefore he can rightfully say whatever else he wants. Grow up. If you don't like it then you have every right to go somewhere else.

Kevc44485 said:
How come nobody is allowed to state their opinion on xda without somebody getting mad? I agree most of the roms are the same. And it my opinion, none of them seem to work right. Bit again, someone will disagree and tattle tail on me to a moderator or say I need to be kicked off because they disagree with my opinion. No one ever said anyone else had to agree with anyone's opinion. If you don't agree then state your opinion and step aside. Nobody needs you spamming threads with **** like "you need to be kicked off" cause someone has an opinion. The OP did not say anything about race religion creed or sexual orientation therefore he can rightfully say whatever else he wants. Grow up. If you don't like it then you have every right to go somewhere else.
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Our community is awesome only because of devs, who work really hard for us.. if they leave, our sensation forum will die down. Such threads would push devs away & that's the only reason I reported this. Also, I didn't scream ban! I just wanted the mod to take a look. I am sorry if this was wrong but I only had the best interest of the community in mind..
Also, I am sorry for this OT. I just wanted to explain what I thought, if anyone cares that is.
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kgs1992 said:
Our community is awesome only because of devs, who work really hard for us.. if they leave, our sensation forum will die down. Such threads would push devs away & that's the only reason I reported this. Also, I didn't scream ban! I just wanted the mod to take a look. I am sorry if this was wrong but I only had the best interest of the community in mind..
Also, I am sorry for this OT. I just wanted to explain what I thought, if anyone cares that is.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with beats audio
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Yeah I understand what your saying, everyone has an opinion and I searched and couldn't find anywhere I could express it, so created this thread

I gotta agree. Aside from CM9/MIUI/AOKP/Paranoid Android, most Sense 3.6/Sense 4.0 ROMs are the same.

[Q] [Need Advice] Best Daily Driver Rom for GS3?

Okay, deferring to the wisdom of the elders on this question. I've been all over the place with ROMs, TW and AOSP, but I'm heading to college in a few weeks and I'm looking to "settle down" with a ROM and ride it out until my upgrade in November. Is there a clear winner out there right now in terms of stability/battery life that still has some cool features? I'm very minimalistic and I don't need to be able to customize every single facet of the UI, but rooted stock is a bit too dull for me! I'm on CleanRom 8.2 atm and it's good but not great, I'm really looking for the ultimate daily driver ROM and kernel, please advise a lowly serf such as myself.

I don't believe the rules of XDA allow a "what is the best ROM" thread, so you may not get a simple answer (and to be honest, people have different priorities in what they want or need from a ROM, so what may be best for them may not be best for you).
That said, perhaps the best approach would be to look through the Android Development and Original Android Development topics and look at both the early posts (the OP, plus a page or two after), and the last page or two to get an sense of the install, the features, and the level of support you might get with each ROM. You will also be able to eliminate ROM's that are no longer supported (eg, I believe Scott is no longer supporting CR, so even though it was/is a great ROM, perhaps not the best to consider).
Also google the ROMs to see if there are any YouTubes showing the install and use of the ROM. There are many good reviews of ROMs and seeing them in action is a big help.
Last, a number of ROMs are being discussed on Google+ so you may want to check out that resource too.
And, it may also be a good idea to actually try the ROMs on your phone. ROMs can act differently on your phone than they might on mine.
Hope this helps!!

My recommendation is read all the rom threads as much a you can and experiment by trying them out. "Best of" rom threads are frowned upon because it generally discourages people to read and learn. I am going to close this and trust you will be able to find what you are looking for with some diligence and have fun trying. Thats what makes this site great!:good: