Carrier IQ-Your thoughts, XDA Chefs and people? - HTC Sensation

Hey everyone. I've been looking at the news recently and heard about something called "Carrier IQ". It seems to be a pretty dodgy piece of software in android phones. I just want to ask the expertise of experienced ROM chefs and XDA people what they think of this, and whether it is a real threat, and finally if all ROMs contain this Carrier IQ thing. Yes I know I don't know much, but I think other people wanting to know the svame questions can have a place for reference.
Under Development Section because if it exists, it can only be fixed by development.
Link for those interested: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygre...ted-wiretap-law-in-millions-of-cases/?view=pc

I'm holding my breath and ducking as low as I can, **** is about to hit the fan.
Lol, rhymed it accidentally.
No, it does not belong in Developement, and no it doesn't belong in Sensation at all. General is the place for it. Oh, wait there are about 1000000 threads about it already.
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Mmm, Not good. I hate people snooping. Bloody barstewards.
I dont think it will be that simple though, there'll be something in our contracts that allows them to do it. Aaargh!

HTC also has some logging stuff but they are removed by Devs.Gernerally speaking,if you are using roms on xda,nobody can snoop.

Why is this in the dev section?
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I wish I could lock this thread for the mods...
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
I wish I could lock this thread for the mods...
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Why,
Yes its in the wrong thread, but it isnt hurting anyone. Why is everyone here so ar*ey?

Well, no need to be arsey , true, but it certainly doesn't belong here.
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Why,
Yes its in the wrong thread, but it isnt hurting anyone. Why is everyone here so ar*ey?
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This is indeed the wrong section but a valid thread none the less.
With that said I think its important to note this isn't an Android only issue, CIQ is found in just about every smartphone OS. Secondly running a ROM from XDA doesn't mean your clean as CIQ is on several ROMs here. If you want to be certain the ROM you are running is clean I recommend double checking the release notes or running CM as its been posted already as clean.
You can also use an app by TrevE, located here that will check your currently installed ROM and can remove CIQ if found, however I believe the premium version is needed to do an all in one kill if you will. Even still supporting a Dev thats cleaning up your favorite ROM if its infected isn't all that bad now is it?
In the world we live in, some sort of tracking is constantly going on, from your ISP, your credit or debit card, hell even the grocery store cards my wife insist upon using to save a few dollars has been in the news, grocery stores have considered selling your purchase history to insurance companies so they can determine your rates based upon your eating habits. Its all around... Get use to it or be prepared for a long fight.

For the ARHD and HyperNonSense ROMs at least this is a non issue as Mike removed the code..
So really nothing to see here people, move along , move along...

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For the ARHD and HyperNonSense ROMs at least this is a non issue as Mike removed the code..
So really nothing to see here people, move along , move along...
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Good for you that your running a clean ROM, how bout the others that havent, or dont know about CIQ? move along, move along, get over yourself. You cant make a broad statement like that and dismiss the issue just because you are aware of a situation.
Again, wrong part of the forum, but nothing wrong with the post in general.

Thread moved. Please don't post in the wrong subforum.

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[APP] Android finally has Pocket God!!!

I just found it this morning. Suck on this apple we can do Pocket God too!! Finally the android market is catching up to Iphone Market.
The game is supper buggy like all of the other apple to android apps.
Its also freaking massive without a to SD option. Which kinda sucks.
I played it for like 20 minutes and I noticed that every once in a while my islanders would spontaneously turn into massive random pixel boxes.
Oh and if you have a lower end phone good luck. My Evo ran this just fine but my old Hero was crazy slow. So snapdragon devices should be fine as far as I can tell.
I'm not trying to advertise I promise. I just wanted people to know what I found.
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appelflap said:
No, kidding, I don't think this kind of commercial activities should/would be allowed here.
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Whats wrong with application announcements?
appelflap said:
OMG, and when you're on the market buy a copy of the full version of thumb keyboard A friend of my loves this keyboard.
No, kidding, I don't think this kind of commercial activities should/would be allowed here.
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Sorry I reread my post and it is really commercial like. Ill change that a bit. I was trying to get it out there because I was personally really happy to see this.
TopShelf10 said:
Whats wrong with application announcements?
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It is running against the non commercial, open philosophy of xda-developers.
But you are right, it is a good question. But a very difficult one. How do you keep a forum open for development, knowledge sharing etc. and at the same time allow commercial activities. Hard one. Think of Apple and Microsoft together on one forum "sharing" some knowledge and experience. You gonna love that.
Force close on my wildfire... any wildfire users able to run it?
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Sorry I reread my post and it is really commercial like. Ill change that a bit. I was trying to get it out there because I was personally really happy to see this.
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I thought so. Thanks
Force close on my desire too. Great start.
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@OP
If there was a free version, that would be ok. However, this is a paid app and as such, that is why appelflap called you on the non-commercial rules of XDA (namely Rules 7 and 11). I know that you posted without the intent of selling this, but rules are rules and we cannot allow commercial links in here. If the devs of the game feel like they can offer a free version (much like the good boys at Rovio did with Angry Birds), then they can bring it here. Until then, I will have to edit your first post to remove the market references. This will be left open for discussion purposes only.
Love it
I have been waiting for this to come to android before I even bought my phone lol.
it works great on my Incredible, no lag or F/Cs so far.
Force close on Galaxy S too. Not a lot of good if it isn't going to work on some of the best selling droid handsets but I'll wait for an update before passing judgement.
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Force close on Galaxy S too. Not a lot of good if it isn't going to work on some of the best selling droid handsets but I'll wait for an update before passing judgement.
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They have updated it a bit. It no longer force closes on the vibrant and seems to load faster and does to sd card(froyo needed.)
Update has solved my f/c. Much better.
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Really don't care how you announced it....
I LOVE the fact Pocket God FINALLY has arrived to android AWESOME ! !
ZiCoN said:
Really don't care how you announced it....
I LOVE the fact Pocket God FINALLY has arrived to android AWESOME ! !
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same here I never get tired of playing it. Best money I ever spent, also I can't wait for when they add all the levels and things like the ape, double rainbow, etc
(I have been following Pocket God for a bit now.)

[OFFICIAL UPDATE] - Gingerbread finally released

See the attached image dor the live chat with HTC.
They confirm that they released the update via OTA for unbranded devices.
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what...but i did not get any update notification....?
For gods sake. Until someone has the rom downloaded and installed on their phone then please stop creating new pointless threads!
philje123 said:
For gods sake. Until someone has the rom downloaded and installed on their phone then please stop creating new pointless threads!
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Sorry my friend it's not my intention...
I just want to share the info that it's true GB update is released.
For a moment I went "YAAAAY!" but then I saw that it's just another pointless thread about "what the HTC support guy said".
HTC support may be telling you that the update is already being released, but since no one here on XDA (or anywhere else) actually received the update, we can safely assume that they are wrong.
Also, if you would have taken the effort to post in the correct forum, you would have noticed that there's already a similar thread running: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186791
Exact same situation: guy goes to HTC support, asks about the update, support replies with "uhh, I guess so?" and everybody goes apesh*t about an update which hasn't even been released yet.
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For a moment I went "YAAAAY!" but then I saw that it's just another pointless thread about "what the HTC support guy said".
HTC support may be telling you that the update is already being released, but since no one here on XDA (or anywhere else) actually received the update, we can safely assume that they are wrong.
Also, if you would have taken the effort to post in the correct forum, you would have noticed that there's already a similar thread running: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186791
Exact same situation: guy goes to HTC support, asks about the update, support replies with "uhh, I guess so?" and everybody goes apesh*t about an update which hasn't even been released yet.
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Sorry... did npot knew that
There are too many 'desire' , hd, z, s..currently the gb update is rolling out for the desire z
U have to ask to the customer support about the Htc Desire Bravo.
Anyway better wait that someone get the update.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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For gods sake. Until someone has the rom downloaded and installed on their phone then please stop creating new pointless threads!
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good point buddy. stop making a mess.
"Just another pointless thread"
We have seen those chat screenshots already, but FYI - HTC support doesn't see difference between HTC Desire and HTC Desire Z / S etc. which leads to such conversations IMO.
omg guy you make me for 5 seconds so ******* happy im watching galatasaray vs liverpool halftime my team (gs) is leading 2-0 and i check xda.... OMG 2.3 update but noooo.. a kid have to open such an bull**** thread! fuuuuu
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omg guy you make me for 5 seconds so ******* happy im watching galatasaray vs liverpool halftime my team (gs) is leading 2-0 and i check xda.... OMG 2.3 update but noooo.. a kid have to open such an bull**** thread! fuuuuu
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LOL. I feel ur pain brother. Had my hopes up!
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Fack you all if you do not like talk with admins u don't need to punish me... I tough I was dooing some good sharing some info... But u're all a bunch of kids...
Cool story, bro.
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Fack you all if you do not like talk with admins u don't need to punish me... I tough I was dooing some good sharing some info... But u're all a bunch of kids...
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Dude you puted this in Development...ppl expected download link or something...That's why posting on right forum has HUGE importance/difference!
ivicask said:
Dude you puted this in Development...ppl expected download link or something...That's why posting on right forum has HUGE importance/difference!
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You're right my friend I agree with you... but people only need to say that as you did, they don't have the right to say that I am this or I am that...
Only have to say, worng post... or something like that...
Sorry all for nothing...
first i was like DD, but than i was Like :'((((.......at least name the thread differently PLSSSS

[ROM][9/30/11]ThunderROM │Coming Soon![0.1][Bricked-Kernel]]

This ROM is being based off Xboarder, it is total basic. Much faster than Xboarder. You guys will see all the system apps i deleted! Everything is extra smooth. I removed lwp but u can add them later!
Welcome, always good to have another chef in the kitchen! Waiting for more details ...
Might be the youngest chef here on XDA, 12 years old! Can't wait to see what you got cooking.
He's twelve? I feel like such a failure now.
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He's twelve? I feel like such a failure now.
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Read his sig.
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Read his sig.
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Yeah I see now. Well I'm in college and just barely learning some programming basics! And it's not even Java, it's Visual Basic! Good job kid, keep it up!
lol im only 16 lol hes betting me haha
12?? Damn!!
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For some reason, I don't believe this guy is twelve (I may be wrong), but what happen with this kids childhood your days of playing all the time are not suppose to be OVER!
Hard to believe a 12 year is/can dev, especially the way he said in the OP
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For some reason, I don't believe this guy is twelve (I may be wrong), but what happen with this kids childhood your days of playing all the time are not suppose to be OVER!
Hard to believe a 12 year is/can dev, especially the way he said in the OP
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i think we should stop being surprised by age and everything with the doubting and whatever. im just wondering what a kid would be doing with a cell phone like a sensation at his age and who was the one that taught him or when he started learning.
if this is coming out soon, please include the ring lockscreen style
People are making a big deal about this and he hasn't posted anything yet. Don't get me wrong, I encourage all people to share on xda if they want to but from the sounds of it he deleted some system apps and might of made a couple tweaks. I'm not downgrading him at all cuz even that is impressive at age 12. Xboarder has developed some nice stuff for the age of 16 which is truly awesome! I wish both of you youngins great success .
Im 17
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Im 17
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Go to sleep Melvin!!
18 here
How long will this be a "coming soon" thread? That is, when will you have a ROM ready for download?
Reason I ask is that we generally don't allow "coming soon" threads. Let me know, and if it's not too far off, I'll leave the thread here for now
How do youngsters learn all this stuff???? I want to learn!!
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Ok now i feel really old. I'm 20 ;_;
Bring the ROM my clever kid ! : )
Not being funny, but the 'chef' isn't a chef. It's another ROM with some more taken out. I hope he has the ROM-makers permission to use his ROM as a base for his...
Also, thought 'coming soon' threads were banned?
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Not being funny, but the 'chef' isn't a chef. It's another ROM with some more taken out. I hope he has the ROM-makers permission to use his ROM as a base for his...
Also, thought 'coming soon' threads were banned?
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Considering the "ROM-maker" has actually replied in this thread himself, I'd say that it's not a problem and all cleared with both parties.
And you obviously didn't read my post either, only a few above yours.
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Considering the "ROM-maker" has actually replied in this thread himself, I'd say that it's not a problem and all cleared with both parties.
And you obviously didn't read my post either, only a few above yours.
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Didn't even see it was you posting above, my bad
Didn't see it was xboarder that posted either - need to stop scan reading when up early
I think its a bit cheeky downloading someones ROM zipmodding it then saying its going to be way better lol. Why dont you download from source and make something cool

So glad

Im so done with the idiots on this site...the devs are good but wasting their time on a bunch of retards. The so called "higher power" doesnt even run this site the way it should be ran. Im sticking with the site i made (where trolling is not tolerated) and suggest everyone do the same. Even though ill no longer be reading this im sure ill be flamed...have fun *****es.
*Always go out with a bang mother ****er*
Dude, what are you so mad about. I am not flaming you because I agree to some extent and I help too.(ROMS, Themes), so I hope you weren't talking about me but seriously, XDA may have a lot of morons and people asking questions like how do I put an app in /system/app and posting the question in the dev section, but were else are you gonna get goodies for your phone? Just don't respond to sh*t and it eventually should die away.
mods. please close thread.
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Im so done with the idiots on this site...the devs are good but wasting their time on a bunch of retards. The so called "higher power" doesnt even run this site the way it should be ran. Im sticking with the site i made (where trolling is not tolerated) and suggest everyone do the same. Even though ill no longer be reading this im sure ill be flamed...have fun *****es.
*Always go out with a bang mother ****er*
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First of all, before i say anything, let me introduce you all to this link. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344915
He states that everyone on the forums but the devs are retards and/or idiots, yet he doesnt include himself. We dont know something and we're considered retards? Gee thanks. And the fact that he said "i probably am going to get flamed" if you know youre gonna get flamed for something, why post it? Make your life simple for yourself man.
P.s. The 'higher powers' have more than just the sgs4g forums to look at. Look around.
"sticking with the site where trolling isnt allowed" okay. Nontrolling forum run by a troll. Yippie.
"ill no longer be reading this"
I honestly doubt it.
enjoy my essay.
And have some respect for the mods, devs, and the rest of the community. Some people from the community are stepping up to learn how to dev to get rid of the load on the low number of devs we have.
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If this was fb i would like this.
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Arguments Between Developer's

The arguments between you guys have to stop, if you have an argument with another dev, don't take matters into your own hands! PM me, and it will be taken care of. It has gotten ridiculous how many arguments I've seen. It needs to STOP. Users are also welcome to pm me when they see an argument. Hacking your device has always been about fun and challenge, but just as important is keeping the community strong. Respect others! :highfive:
Yeah
:good::good::good::good::good:
Techno's Right:highfive:
I am always involved in fights cuz m the villain of this place Will follow your advice next time.
Its sad to see NextToICS thread alive,but USR's (evan's ROM) thread dead.
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Techno's U r Ryt............
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Its sad to see NextToICS thread alive,but USR's (evan's ROM) thread dead.
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I agree completely with U! Evanlocked is promising! It shoudln't hv happened!
Good to see a lot of you guys agree! Let me know if you see something where action needs to be taken!
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Good to see a lot of you guys agree! Let me know if you see something where action needs to be taken!
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Sure! we will let you know
Well said
Basing on what you said, this is really quite the right thing to do. To focus more on the development of our device and unite as one so that we can achieve what we always crave for; to develop our devices to unlock it's full capabilities.
This is the main concept of this forum i believe, and arguments will only create distractions for devs for fulfilling the goal. Although there are times that slight misjudgements are occuring, nevertheless lets not forget why where here guys.
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MOD i already sent you a PM about the USR rom
Please consider creeds statement and also the members voices
more power XDA
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MOD i already sent you a PM about the USR rom
Please consider creeds statement and also the members voices
more power XDA
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Hi, please send your message, had some problems earlier don't remember getting anything else.
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techno-update said:
Hi, please send your message, had some problems earlier don't remember getting anything else.
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ok MOD
:good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
yes its true
Yup!!!!!
Respect Each Other!!!!!!!!! Yeah! :good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
this is what i honestly feel about any CM development here
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I really miss those fights
deathnotice01 said:
this is what i honestly feel about any CM development here
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Bro, if only you knew how hard it is to build CM for ths device. This device is truly a peice of s##t. I have built nearly 30 builds already and it is just error, after error, after error. The latest push from Squadzone wont even build!!!!!!
Please be my guest and try it yourself. I honestly feel like giving up. No drivers for gpu, means no CM for this device. What a peice of crap
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Bro, if only you knew how hard it is to build CM for ths device. This device is truly a peice of s##t. I have built nearly 30 builds already and it is just error, after error, after error. The latest push from Squadzone wont even build!!!!!!
Please be my guest and try it yourself. I honestly feel like giving up. No drivers for gpu, means no CM for this device. What a peice of crap
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yea i feel you dude,
thanks for developing one anyway,
we'll never have CM until broadcom release its sources,
SGY is a piece of crap,
regreted that i bought one,
deathnotice01 said:
yea i feel you dude,
thanks for developing one anyway,
we'll never have CM until broadcom release its sources,
SGY is a piece of crap,
regreted that i bought one,
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Same ! First time i thought that this phone is good... when i bought it ... then checked the ply store... almost all app are incompatible.... Ram is to low , internal also... hmph... Better buy Galaxy ace than this
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