comparison Atrix 2 with Samsung Skyrocket - Motorola Atrix 2

I've used my Atrix 2 for severa weeks. There are several great features, while I have a few issues with it too. I am thinking of returning it back to get a Samsung Skyrocket. But I'd to have a fair comparison of the two before making any decision.
Here are the things I really enjoy:
1. The screen is fantastic, very clear and bright.
2. The battery is super. I've not charged it in the last two days, and it is still alive.
3. The build feels very solid. Its feeling is so great.
4. Compared to Skyrocket, it is much cheaper.
Here are some issues with my Atrix2:
1. GPS is not working correctly, not even for once. I am watching this forum, but seems no one else has the same issue.
2. No way to flash modified ROMs, at least at this moment.
3. Internet sometimes is not good. Not to mention the super fast speed of Skyrocket's LTE.
However, I have not spent enough time on my phone---I have not rooted it or installed other useful applications. Nor do I know much about the possible issues with SkyRocket. So my observations above may be imcomplete or biased.
I would appreciate if you can share your thoughts and experience. Many thanks!
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sureway said:
I've used my Atrix 2 for severa weeks. There are several great features, while I have a few issues with it too. I am thinking of returning it back to get a Samsung Skyrocket. But I'd to have a fair comparison of the two before making any decision.
Here are the things I really enjoy:
1. The screen is fantastic, very clear and bright.
2. The battery is super. I've not charged it in the last two days, and it is still alive.
3. The build feels very solid. Its feeling is so great.
4. Compared to Skyrocket, it is much cheaper.
Here are some issues with my Atrix2:
1. GPS is not working correctly, not even for once. I am watching this forum, but seems no one else has the same issue.
2. No way to flash modified ROMs, at least at this moment.
3. Internet sometimes is not good. Not to mention the super fast speed of Skyrocket's LTE.
However, I have not spent enough time on my phone---I have not rooted it or installed other useful applications. Nor do I know much about the possible issues with SkyRocket. So my observations above may be imcomplete or biased.
I would appreciate if you can share your thoughts and experience. Many thanks!
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for 1 and 3, why not just go to at&t store and exchange for another atrix2 since there's no one has the same issue. I have no problem with those issue too.
for 2, i guess we need a bit patient, as long as the stupid bootloader is unlockable, we will get custom rom.

Thanks for your suggestions. I will try an exchange this weekend.
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sureway said:
I've used my Atrix 2 for severa weeks. There are several great features, while I have a few issues with it too. I am thinking of returning it back to get a Samsung Skyrocket. But I'd to have a fair comparison of the two before making any decision.
Here are the things I really enjoy:
1. The screen is fantastic, very clear and bright.
2. The battery is super. I've not charged it in the last two days, and it is still alive.
3. The build feels very solid. Its feeling is so great.
4. Compared to Skyrocket, it is much cheaper.
Here are some issues with my Atrix2:
1. GPS is not working correctly, not even for once. I am watching this forum, but seems no one else has the same issue.
2. No way to flash modified ROMs, at least at this moment.
3. Internet sometimes is not good. Not to mention the super fast speed of Skyrocket's LTE.
However, I have not spent enough time on my phone---I have not rooted it or installed other useful applications. Nor do I know much about the possible issues with SkyRocket. So my observations above may be imcomplete or biased.
I would appreciate if you can share your thoughts and experience. Many thanks!
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I came from the GS2 and have not looked back....
Just feels better (more solid) in the hand and battery life last a lot longer. (and this is even before a custom ROM.... just imagine how long it will last once ROMs start being developed)
As far as GPS & Internet I have not had any issue w/mine, works great.
Lastly the price speaks for its self. $50 (@Bestbuy)..... wow.

One of my co-workers have the Skyrocket, and I've played with it extensively since he is an iPhone refugee and wanted me to help him set it up.
I will say that you are correct in the feel aspect, the A2 feels twice as expensive as the Skyrocket. The screen is the one thing that would keep from getting the Skyrocket, it is horrible to me. IT IS BLUE!!! I am sure one could get used to using it, but as soon as I see another phone and see actual white...I would be pissed again. As far as phone speed, it didn't feel any faster than my A2, some things the Skyrocket did faster, some things the A2 did faster...it was a draw. As far as internet speeds go, without unlimited data I really couldn't see where I could fully take advantage of the higher speeds. Mobile websites load rather quickly on HSPA+ and only slightly quicker on LTE. Faster none the less. But what really shows the true advantage of LTE was watching videos and downloading large apps neither of which I do a lot of over our limited data plans. My friend is constantly complaining about his battery life. He said that if he uses it gingerly it makes it through the day, if he really starts playing with it, he needs to find a charger. I for one have always been able to make it back to the house at night with a lot of battery left, whether I use it a lot or use it a little. As for development, we just have to be patient, I am sure we will get a way to flash ROMs and kernels, but until then the A2 really can't fight in that battle.
I have not had any of the issues you brought up, I would take it back. And from what I've read, Sammy's are notorious for GPS issues, I don't know if the Skyrocket is in that boat or not, but they don't have the greatest track record with GPS.
I say go to an AT&T store that has a Skyrocket demo phone and do your comparison, what I didn't like you might like. Don't get caught up in looking at pictures as a lot of reviewers do when reviewing the SGS2's. Look at the everyday stuff, surf the web and sit it next to your A2, go to google.com and compare them. You will see what I'm talking about.

The only thing I dislike about A2 is its camera quality. Don't know why Moto even bothered with a dedicated camera button; without two-stage focus it's pretty useless.

Ok considering I owned the Skyrocket temporarily and the Atrix 2 I can tell you a few differences.
1. The Skyrocket feels Cheap and the Skyrocket is Wider which makes the phone feel a little odd.
2. This is mixed but I noticed it and so have others on the screen, the Skyrocket when viewed in the dark and looking at either a dark photo or watching a scene in a movie where it is dark you will notice a blobbing effect as well as banding issues through the screen. Atrix 2 does not suffer from this at all.
3. Super AMOLED Plus from what I have read suffers from screen degradation over time.
4. Def. not nearly as many accessories (Lapdock, HD Dock, Etc. for Atrix 2)
5. Skyrocket's bootloader is unlocked....Bad Motorola Bad
6. Camera and Video seem about the same on both of them as far as I can tell but I don't have a photographers eye let alone if you are that picky just go get an Actual REAL Camera.
7. As for fluidity of the UI they seem about the same and the irony here is that the Atrix 2 is running currently at 1ghz as opposed to the Skyrocket running at 1.5ghz
8. Once Atrix 2 does get bootloader unlocked they will be pretty much dead even other than LTE but like someone stated earlier unless you have an Unlimited Data Plan kinda useless.

One thing that has not been meantioned is the charge time!
The Atrix 2 charge time is much, much, much, faster then the SG2

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One thing that has not been meantioned is the charge time!
The Atrix 2 charge time is much, much, much, faster then the SG2
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Agree with this.
My friend has sgs2 and charging longer than mine,although he use my charger or i use his,a2 is faster when charging. Also his battery life is worse,he charge twice/three times a day,but a2 can give me a day with data connection always on and widget.
And when i play a game on his phone,back camera feel so hot.
Screen look good on sgs2 but a2 is brighter.
Sgs2 feels so fragile and cheap in hand,a2 is so solid.
But back again,decission is yours.
Just choose what you like.
But when a2 is unlocked,i believe we will see a beast awake from its bed. :-D
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I am planning on picking up an Atrix 2 tomorrow, I was told by a Target Store associate that the Atrix 2 will be FREE...the SG2 will be $199.99, so that pretty much sold me on the Atrix 2.
I too was worried about the Super AMOLED screen on the SG2, I owned a Captivate previously and it suffered from image burn, which bugged the crap out of me.

You will probably like the A2. It's a very refined phone. Feels a ton nicer than the SGSII, which I considered.

I am very grateful to all your comments! They have saved me a lot troubles.
More than a year ago, I had Samsung captivate for several months, and it was my first smartphone. As it had much more functions compared to my previous non-smart phones, overall I quite liked it, despite its cheap looking, bad GPS, and short battery life.
Today I tried SkyRocket in an AT&T store. I had expected there should be a lot changes compared to captivate. It turns out SkyRocket still looks as cheap as captivate. The screen might be brighter, but there is a bluish tone.
As for the GPS issue with my Atrix 2, it went away after a salesperson simply pulled out the battery and then restarted the phone. I then tried GPS several times after, the issue is really gone. A little bit curious why a restart with battery removed can solve the problem.
I haven't looked for any change of the Internet connection issue. Previously, when phone signal is low, around 2 bars, the internet is really really slow. However, as I work on computer all the time, so this issue does not bother me that much.
After reading numerous very helpful replies, I decide to keep this new phone. I picked up Atrix 2 mainly because it is much cheaper, plus I'd like to try a different company. Now I realize that I made a good decision.
Thank you all, again!

I did pick up my Atrix 2 on Sunday and all I can say is WOW! I love it, it even made a couple of my iPhone toting co-workers jealous...that was great. I am now looking forward to some development and custom ROMs in the future.

PeteSeiler2010 said:
I did pick up my Atrix 2 on Sunday and all I can say is WOW! I love it, it even made a couple of my iPhone toting co-workers jealous...that was great. I am now looking forward to some development and custom ROMs in the future.
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Glad to have you aboard!

Another thing worth pointing out is the resolution. The Atrix2 has 960x540 as opposed to 480 x 800 pixels on the Samsung. Before I bought the Atrix2, I had thoroughly compared the two. The higher resolution makes for an increase in display area. When comparing the same yahoo news article on both phones, the words get wrapped to the second line earlier on the Samsung. So you get to read more on the Atrix2 before having to scroll. Also, the higher resolution provides a crisper and clearer font.
As far as brightness is concerned, Atrix2 is way brighter. The store salesman tried to change the Samsung config to increase the brightness but it was already at it's highest. But apparently as he mentioned the Samsung has deeper more brilliant colors but I thought the Atrix2 colors looked more "natural".

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As far as brightness is concerned, Atrix2 is way brighter. The store salesman tried to change the Samsung config to increase the brightness but it was already at it's highest. But apparently as he mentioned the Samsung has deeper more brilliant colors but I thought the Atrix2 colors looked more "natural".
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The Atrix is *really* bright, especially compared to my Nexus One. In fact, in some ways, I wish we had a Contrast setting option, because the brightness tends to wash out any vaguely light wallpapers.
But I certainly don't have the problems seeing the screen in the outdoors the way I did with my N1. And indoors I turn the brightness *way* down. (Never bother with auto-brightness.)

Congrats on your decision. I think you'll love the A2. The LTE is an added plus for the Skyrocket, but it's only slightly faster than the A2's 21 mb/s and there is a big battery drain; SGS2 = Bad battery life, LTE = Worse battery life, SGS2 Skyrocket = Terrible battery life.
The worst thing about the A2 (for me) is that it still hasn't been added to the official list of updates to ICS. That just annoys me a lot.

Glad I had asked before made the decision. Very very happy about the screen and battery.
I just got my Atrix 2 rooted and turned on Mobile Hotspot. And now typing on a transformer.
On my unit, I only got 2mb/s for the internet. Perhaps because the reception signal at my place is bad. Anyway, it will be enough for occasional use.
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Congrats on your decision. I think you'll love the A2. The LTE is an added plus for the Skyrocket, but it's only slightly faster than the A2's 21 mb/s and there is a big battery drain; SGS2 = Bad battery life, LTE = Worse battery life, SGS2 Skyrocket = Terrible battery life.
The worst thing about the A2 (for me) is that it still hasn't been added to the official list of updates to ICS. That just annoys me a lot.
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sureway said:
Glad I had asked before made the decision. Very very happy about the screen and battery.
I just got my Atrix 2 rooted and turned on Mobile Hotspot. And now typing on a transformer.
On my unit, I only got 2mb/s for the internet. Perhaps because the reception signal at my place is bad. Anyway, it will be enough for occasional use.
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2mb/s for bad signal is great result.
I've tried to compare the speed test between my gsm modem and a2 on usb and wifi tethering (i've tried both) using the same gsm simcard,and speed is better on a2.
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Once I get my atrix2 (friday) I can give a good comparison between the two since Ill own both. I love the skyrocket to death and it is by far the best smartphone Ive owned but once a friend showed me webtop I knew I needed to have that too lol Ive got a second ATT line (concession) and had one of my yearly upgrades available so I ordered an atrix2. After seeing some benchmark scores Im hoping to get the atrix and help with the bootloader situation. Last time I ran antutu with a stripped stock factory clock on the skyrocket I pulled 6314. I saw in another thread the atrix pull 5000 something. Im sure a lot of that has to do with the stock rom and lower clock speed so Im hoping that development will ramp up. Will have a little comparison review this weekend when I get my atrix2 and lapdock

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Pondering the Infuse

I'm a frequent phone hopper, so I've avoided Verizon and AT&T lately because of high ETF's.
I've recently had
Old school Droid when it first came out
Samsung Vibrant
MyTouch 4g now
I hated the vibrant, it was slow, laggy, and the GPS was a ****ing piece of ****.
I love my Mytouch 4g, running sense 3.0, but the screen's too small, I have big hands.
I can't find a store with an infuse to play around with.....is it laggy at all? does it have the same problems the Galaxy S line had?
can you see yourself happy with the phone for 2 years since AT&T has such a massive ETF?
My other option is switching to Sprint, getting the Evo3D, then when LTE goes live around the holidays here, switching to Verizon
The Infuse is a great phone stock.
The screen is awesome for video.
Not laggy like gs.
But I do get some force closes with certain apps. Plume is problematic.
If I were in your shoes I would wait for the sprint phone coming soon. Basically a gs2 in an Infuse body with the awesome 4.5"screen.
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I just switched over from the captivate. My thinking was I wanted to sell my cappy while it still had some value before everyone dumped it for SGS2 and if i was gonna trade some battery life for better features I would rather have a bigger screen than dual core or NFC anyway even if the knock on this phone is that it's last year's tech.
Only had it a few days but for me it's noticeably less laggy than my captivate (both on custom roms), the screen is gorgeous and the gps works great unlike the cappy. I'm v happy so far with it...I did sell my soul and my a$$ to ATT for another 2 years to get upgrade pricing and that is such a long time...but I think 2 years without dual core and NFC won't be that big a deal and you won't see many apps taking advantage of those features before then anyway.
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I just switched over from the captivate. My thinking was I wanted to sell my cappy while it still had some value before everyone dumped it for SGS2 and if i was gonna trade some battery life for better features I would rather have a bigger screen than dual core or NFC anyway even if the knock on this phone is that it's last year's tech.
Only had it a few days but for me it's noticeably less laggy than my captivate (both on custom roms), the screen is gorgeous and the gps works great unlike the cappy. I'm v happy so far with it...I did sell my soul and my a$$ to ATT for another 2 years to get upgrade pricing and that is such a long time...but I think 2 years without dual core and NFC won't be that big a deal and you won't see many apps taking advantage of those features before then anyway.
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I agree with you and I had the same thoughts when choosing to upgrade to Infuse from Captivate. The only issue is that I do not get hspa+ 4G speeds. I am actually slower than 3G captivate speeds.
It's definitely faster than the Galaxy S phones stock and the GPS works better as well (though I've still seen better). It can get a bit laggy if you run stock for a while, but not to the extent of the Galaxy S line, and if you install a custom ROM with Voodoo lagfix it will of course be cleared right up. That said, may want to wait for the Galaxy S II variants unless you really have to have the 4.5 inch screen. The SGS2 will be better in every other way and has absolutely no lag even if you run it completely stock.
This is the first phone I've bought with no buyers remorse. The size screen and performance really won me over. My last day to return is this Monday. Instead of prepping the phone for a return I bought 2 docks GPS dock and a casemate barely there. /committed.
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shadow65781 said:
The Infuse is a great phone stock.
The screen is awesome for video.
Not laggy like gs.
But I do get some force closes with certain apps. Plume is problematic.
If I were in your shoes I would wait for the sprint phone coming soon. Basically a gs2 in an Infuse body with the awesome 4.5"screen.
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Plume isn't problematic. I use it all the time with zero issues on my Infuse.
Switched from a iPhone 4 to this a week ago. Got to say that I am impressed with the phone so far. The screen is really quite gorgeous and is one of the best mobile devices I have used for internet.
A couple of things to note:
-Even though quadrant scores are not all that accurate in terms of actual speed, I got 1000-1200 average on stock and 1600-1800 on average with the Infused Custom ROM. With that said, it is a very fast device and can handle apps, games, and the internet with speed. Widgets do slow down the stock ROM, but Launcher Pro fixes that real easy.
-Battery does fairly well. On stock, I was getting a average of 15 hours on a quarter brightness with a fair amount of use. On the custom ROM, it seems to be doing much better and seems to have increased the battery life a good 5 hours+ or so. On standby, it does fairly well as long as it isn't checking for notifications constantly.
-I live in a somewhat big town in Tennessee, and my HSPA+ speeds are averaging about 1.50Mbps -3.0Mbps download, which is on par with my iPhone 4. It only dipped into edge once, and on average it will hold a signal pretty well (I get the same amount of bars as the iPhone and same connection pull, pretty much).
-Call quality is fine on my end, although some people have had problems. It is generally recommended that you do a reformat immediately when you get the phone to be on the safe side. Speaker phone mode is also fine. The sound quality is also adequate for both headsets/ear buds and just for watching stuff like youtube without them.
-Build quality-wise, it is surprisingly thin and somewhat weightless and does fit in my pocket just fine. I am not the biggest fan of the chrome bezel, but it isn't bad per-se. The back looks and feels fine, but the battery cover can be a pain in the ass to get off. It also only comes with a 2GB SD Card, although it comes with a rather large 16GB internally. I have not run out of space yet, and I have quite a few apps installed.
-Camera-wise, it is a 8MP camera and it does show. Pictures do have detail in them and look rich and vibrant. I will note that the stock camera app has TERRIBLE image stability when compared to the iPhone 4's pictures, but several apps on the marketplace fix that issue. It also only records in 720p at the moment, but that might get upgraded with Gingerbread (The rogers version is supposed to ship with both Gingerbread and 1080p recording, so that might make a difference). The front facing camera is a 1.3MP one, which is a step up from VGA.
-Flash tends to run fine in the web browser as long as it isn't a huge size dimension wize (Youtube imbedding size works fine) while anything larger might lag. Also, if there is a bunch of flash content on a page, it WILL be slow. I have been pleased with it in general, although newgrounds might run a little slow and choppy.
I will say that I am pleasantly pleased with the phone, it might not be a dual core (1.2Ghz single core Hummingbird processor), but you really do not need dual cores at the moment. I say go for it if you want a huge screen and a decent all around android phone.
I'm coming from ios and I am interested in stock camera replacement apps.
The camera and photo manipulation apps I has on the iPhone is really all that I miss at this point.
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Ive never owned a iphone and i would like to know about the camera problems and whats needed to make it better. As stated above, there are several apps that fix it?????? "TERRIBLE image stability" ?????? What exactly does this mean?

Would you buy the Sensation again?

Considering buying the sensation this next week.
Would you buy the Sensation again - if you had the choice?
Yep.
My S4G build date was 6/2/11
Yep. I love everything about it although the screen could have been a little less... grainy shall we say. If you've seen it in person and like the screen then that won't be a problem. It's just as fast as my vibrant and thunderbolt when launching apps but it doesn't get bogged down like those two do. It just keeps chugging right along without slowing down. I've had rosie (the UI) relaunch once, and haven't been able to replicate it. It's also a dream to browse on. It might not be as smooth as a GS2 side by side but it'll pretty much blow most other handsets out of the water in that area. Gaming on it is nice too, and I find it's framerates are as good as the Galaxy S1 phones which is great especially given the extra resolution this phone has.
I can only produce the deathgrip by completely wrapping the phone tightly which isn't a natural thing. I think those that are complaining of the death grip need to not hold the phone like they're trying to strangle it. I also have big hands so that can't be used an excuse. When holding it naturally I get a full wifi signal all over my house which none of my other devices could do. GPS locks fairly quick, but not as fast as the thunderbolt. But it works to say the least, and compared to my Galaxy S1 it's lightyears better. Compass also works great.
It's wifi speeds are hitting as high as 17Mbs down and 14Mbs up which is pretty solid.
As far as "4G" speeds in my area i'm seeing between 7-8Mbs which is great although your mileage may vary depending on where you live. My Vibrant would only pull in speeds between 4-5.5 Mbs on a good day in these same areas. Verizon LTE in comparison blows t-mo's 4G speeds out of the water. It's consistently twice as fast as t-mo's. In real world performance it only launches youtube videos 1 or 2 seconds faster so it's not that big of a deal.
The build quality is amazing, and the best handset i've ever held. That includes the iPhone4. I showed it to a friend who has the Incredible and he was practically drooling at it's looks and how smooth the OS felt. I don't know about the design as it does allow a lot of lint behind the case. We'll have to see if that's becomes an issue with lint getting under the screen.
I've only had it for one full day now and simply love it. Sorry for the long post.
no im sick of this [email protected]#king phone this is my third one after constantly swaping with tmobile because of problems
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no im sick of this [email protected]#king phone this is my third one after constantly swaping with tmobile because of problems
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what problems, please explain
Every device has problems. I went through 3 G1's. None of the GS1's had working GPS. The N1 had a ton of problems, and the iPhone has problems. If you go looking for a problem you're going to find it whether it be with this device or not.
So far so good...it's a keeper and will only get much better once rooted!
Yes, love the phone! Coming from a G2 I was hesitant about leaving the keyboard but the screen size and swype has made the transition easy. I havent had any problems with the phone at all although I havent been trying to look for any. Overall this is the 1st phone that I've had that I felt was superior to the iphone 4. Kinda sick of comparisons to the SGS 2, theres about a 500-600 price difference right now and although the Galaxy 2 may be a better phone I think the S4G is a better value....either way theres nothing on the android app store that these phones cant handle...best phone Ive had period
Yeah. The only real problem is the WiFi death grip issue, but whatever.

Looking for general feedback/considering buying a Charge

I'm months overdue from getting rid of my Touch Pro 2, and the Charge is one of my top contenders. I was holding out for the Bionic (or rumored Verizon Nexus S), but after researching the X2 and Droid 3 and seeing the Dev community having issues achieving root, I'm now leaning back towards the current single core LTE handsets.
The brief time I've spent looking around, it looks like the battery life is great considering the usual LTE excess drain. Obviously the phone is rootable, there are kernels and roms available, and the dev community seems to be very active with the phone in general.
I haven't specifically seen any mention of overclock ability or "stealth" tethering, but I would have to assume these are all doable considering the kernel and rom availability.
If anybody wouldn't mind sharing some general feedback, I would greatly appreciate it!
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why?
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
Thanks again in advance for any comments, they would be much appreciated!
Cheers!
I like my charge. I also came from a TP2 like you. The battery life is decent but the 4g is awesome to have. It flies. I use stealth tethering via wireless tether for root users. The dev community is very active. The main issues I have are bluetooth related. I often have to reboot before I get into my car so I know there will not be bluetooth disconnects. Now that netflix is available I like the phone even more. Also I love swype.
Good luck and smart idea asking the questions that you are asking.
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I came to the Charge from the Revolution. I liked the feel of the Revo, it was heavier, felt solid and well made and it was also a much faster phone than the charge out of the box giving me Quadrants in 2k to 22k range. On 4g Speed tests the Charge is faster.
But when I had two Revolutions brick themselves so hard that I could not get into a factory reset, nor anything else in the space of 30 days I had VZW upgrade me to the Charge.
So far the Charge has beena pretty decent phone (considering I've rooted and ROMed it.) Stock I hated it.
I'm using Humble 1.42 as my ROM and I'm happy so far.
Time to upgrade buddy. Humble 1.51 is sick.
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Time to upgrade buddy. Humble 1.51 is sick.
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**** humble he is nothing but a thief gummy is where it's at.
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schick79 said:
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why? Very happy. 4G is lightning fast; the screen is the best out there; I personally find the Samsung TouchWiz UI to be very friendly. Others don't; each to his own. Battery life seems at least as good as any other Android phone; I can get 9-12 hours, which is all I need, unless I'm in a fringe reception area.
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution? LG phones generally seem to be more troublesome from what I've read. Plus the screen is greatly inferior.
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Red comments above.
schick79 said:
I'm months overdue from getting rid of my Touch Pro 2, and the Charge is one of my top contenders. I was holding out for the Bionic (or rumored Verizon Nexus S), but after researching the X2 and Droid 3 and seeing the Dev community having issues achieving root, I'm now leaning back towards the current single core LTE handsets.
The brief time I've spent looking around, it looks like the battery life is great considering the usual LTE excess drain. Obviously the phone is rootable, there are kernels and roms available, and the dev community seems to be very active with the phone in general.
I haven't specifically seen any mention of overclock ability or "stealth" tethering, but I would have to assume these are all doable considering the kernel and rom availability.
If anybody wouldn't mind sharing some general feedback, I would greatly appreciate it!
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why?
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
Thanks again in advance for any comments, they would be much appreciated!
Cheers!
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Sorry for quoting this long, its hard to look back at posts on your phone. I came from an LG Versa. That phone was complete ****, but I was 13 or 14 and something appealed to me. This is my upgrade. I love it, except for the battery life. We have 2 main custom roms, GummyCharged and Eclipse. (Humble is just a spinoff/kang of GC), and 2-3 kernels - PeanutButtaJellyTime (plus an OC edition, you mentioned you didn't see it), Nameless, and imoseyon's kernel, which you will only find on his Twitter page. "Stealth Tethering" is still available with Wifi Tether Beta3 on Google Code. I chose this over the Tbolt and Revolution because a verizon rep told me this was the 4G phone with the least issues and most positive customer feedback, plus I thought this one had the most support from XDA (the tbolt has a lot too though). My only peeve with this phone is its lack of support from Samsung. We basically have to do everything ourselves because Sammy hasn't given us good source. We don't get TW4 (although we have our attempts at porting it), and GB is FINALLY almost here. The Wolfson DAC is amazing, but the GPS (Yamaha?) leaves something to be desired. But in closing, I love this phone and im glad I got it.
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kvswim, thanks VERY much for that! Quick question, though (or for anyone else), not actually having an Android phone yet, I have no idea what TW4 or DAC means.
Great to know OC is an option, as well as stealth tethering.
Also appreciate the scoop on the different flavors of roms/kernels/etc.
If I end up going with this phone (which is now far ahead in the lead), that will be the first thing I do upon opening up the box.
Thanks again!
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kvswim, thanks VERY much for that! Quick question, though (or for anyone else), not actually having an Android phone yet, I have no idea what TW4 or DAC means.
Great to know OC is an option, as well as stealth tethering.
Also appreciate the scoop on the different flavors of roms/kernels/etc.
If I end up going with this phone (which is now far ahead in the lead), that will be the first thing I do upon opening up the box.
Thanks again!
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TW4=TouchWiz 4, Sammy's 4th generation of their UI overlay, similar to HTC's Sense or Motorola's Motoblur. We have TW3. Also, the stock theming is HIDEOUS. Poop color EVERYWHERE.
The Wolfson DAC is the audio chipset in most (all?) Samsung Galaxy phones. It is amazing compared to other phones, it's audiophile quality. Plus the EQ and amplifier outputs can be modified with the Voodoo Control app (you can also change Voodoo lagfix in it).
PROTIP on selecting ROMS: If you like the stock feel go with Eclipse. If you like more of an Android Open Source Project (AOSP) feel, use GC. I highly reccommend trying both and seeing what you like more. Also, as of now, Gingerbread is completely up to you, as all we have in GB are leaks and no source (its completely unnoficial). Our Froyo builds are built from official ROMS and source.
Oh yes, we have stuff like MIUI and CM7 and OMFGB in development. Protip: NEVER ask for ETAs.
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Gotcha, thanks. I do have a Xoom, but considering that's on Honeycomb, I didn't think there would be any relation between it and any phone.
When you said DAC the only thing that came to mind was digital to analog converter, but I didn't think that would be it. Guess I was wrong! That's another huge plus as my phone is always my mp3/flac player.
Will definitely check out all roms if/once I get the phone.
At this point I'm pretty much sold on the Charge as opposed to the Revo or TB, and even the Bionic. However, I am wondering if it's worth waiting a couple weeks until the rumored September release date for the Bionic to see if the price points fall. All things being equal, they should.
Again, thanks for all the help!
I got my charge 2 days ago...via a sweet craigslist deal. Anyways, I'm coming from the THunderbolt. I still haven't rooted the phone yet but the tbolt was perma rooted running a GB rom. Now I know you said LG rev but I'm going to go on a little rant here based on my initial thoughts.
I gotta say, I think the charge is an underrated phone. So far the battery life on the charge is DESTROYING the thunderbolt. The real test will be tomorrow when I'm at work with a poor data signal. I think the phone itself looks great, it is much better in person than you see in pictures. In pictures it looks fat and weird, I think its pretty sleek for a 4.3" LTE phone. Nice metal accents, good form factor, I could've done without the android hardkeys, but I don't mind them.
Samsung phones get knocked for build quality, but my galaxy s when I was on tmobile took a ton of abuse, the screen never scratched and even the "metal" accent trims don't scratch much. Also, I personally like the lighter weight feel of the samsung phones (galaxy, nexus, charge, etc).
Take that in comparison with HTC phones and the thunderbolt... I seroiusly don't know what kind of HTC koolaid people drink but I've never been impressed. The thunderbolt's screen is NOT very scratch resistant, the kickstand peel reaked of sh*t quality, I ended up polishing mine. When I had my nexus one, the power button felt like crap. When I had my HD7, the battery cover squeaked like hell. Like I said, I don't get how HTC gets so much credit.
Moving on to slam HTC more, if you ask me, HTC sense sucks, its so intrusive and blocky to me. Maybe I'm in the minority there but I'm sick of the stupid HTC clock widget, the menus, etc, just isn't my thing I guess. Lets not to mention the messages app in the thunderbolt freezing ALOT. Of course I ditched sense with the AOSP rom I was running but still, initial frustration. People give touchwiz heat, but I really don't mind it.
Reception - I'm getting FAR better 4g connectivity with the charge. I don't know what was up with my tbolt but once I'd drop to 3g or 1x, I could never get back to 4g unless I rebooted. Multiple radios - same issue.
Finally, the screen. Sorry but one of the most rewarding things with a phone is the screen, every time you turn it on, you obviously see it, and with the charge, thats a good thing because the super amoled plus is just excellent. Destroys the thunderbolt and most other phones in general.
Forget quadrant scores (people get wayyyy hung up on QS), dual cores, everything else. At the end of the day, if the aesthetics of the phone are good - size, weight, pocketability, the screen, the device is snappy (and the charge is smooth for me in stock form), and battery life is good, I'm gonna be happy. With all those things into account, I think the charge is a great phone so far and I'm really surprised its kind of slid under the radar and not given credit because people are waiting for the bionic and gs2.
Sorry to do tbolt vs charge since thats not what you're looking for, but as far as general feedback - I think you're going to be happy with the charge, its quite honestly a very nice phone. I'm glad I gave another LTE phone a chance before I lost faith in it.
Thanks Dale, I actually do appreciate the TBolt comparison. It was originally my #1 or #2 pick, so this reaffirms that it is rightfully at the bottom of my list.
It just hit me that Super AMOLED is probably the same as SAMOLED. I saw another article (about a completely different phone, actually) that was raving about SAMOLED. Good to have some additional confirmation on that.
I was originally hung up on Quadrant scores and having that dual core. However, after I thought about it, I'm really not sure how important it is considering what I would use the phone for. I have my Xoom, and that is my real "mobile workhorse" now, so that's the device that I'm more concerned about performance on. The phone will primarily be for web browsing, work e-mail, music, tethering, and that's pretty much it. Any other heavy lifting would probably be done by the Xoom. All that being said, I've pretty much convinced myself I won't miss not having the second core. Plus, I'm sure the battery life is better with only 1 core versus 2.
I'm actually pretty stoked after reading all of this feedback, especially the feedback from people who had another LTE phone. I feel good about going with this phone in the very near future.
Again, thanks to all!
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Thanks Dale, I actually do appreciate the TBolt comparison. It was originally my #1 or #2 pick, so this reaffirms that it is rightfully at the bottom of my list.
It just hit me that Super AMOLED is probably the same as SAMOLED. I saw another article (about a completely different phone, actually) that was raving about SAMOLED. Good to have some additional confirmation on that.
I was originally hung up on Quadrant scores and having that dual core. However, after I thought about it, I'm really not sure how important it is considering what I would use the phone for. I have my Xoom, and that is my real "mobile workhorse" now, so that's the device that I'm more concerned about performance on. The phone will primarily be for web browsing, work e-mail, music, tethering, and that's pretty much it. Any other heavy lifting would probably be done by the Xoom. All that being said, I've pretty much convinced myself I won't miss not having the second core. Plus, I'm sure the battery life is better with only 1 core versus 2.
I'm actually pretty stoked after reading all of this feedback, especially the feedback from people who had another LTE phone. I feel good about going with this phone in the very near future.
Again, thanks to all!
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"Super AMOLED" and "SAMOLED" are the same thing, however the Charges' screen is SAMOLED+ But yeah I think it was pretty solid upgrade for me, I love the screen, 4G is blazing fast, build quality and durability are pretty decent and the included 32gb sd card is plenty of room for music, videos and apps
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I'm months overdue from getting rid of my Touch Pro 2, and the Charge is one of my top contenders. I was holding out for the Bionic (or rumored Verizon Nexus S), but after researching the X2 and Droid 3 and seeing the Dev community having issues achieving root, I'm now leaning back towards the current single core LTE handsets.
The brief time I've spent looking around, it looks like the battery life is great considering the usual LTE excess drain. Obviously the phone is rootable, there are kernels and roms available, and the dev community seems to be very active with the phone in general.
I haven't specifically seen any mention of overclock ability or "stealth" tethering, but I would have to assume these are all doable considering the kernel and rom availability.
If anybody wouldn't mind sharing some general feedback, I would greatly appreciate it!
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why?
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
Thanks again in advance for any comments, they would be much appreciated!
Cheers!
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Dude...
Don't get the Charge.
While it's very true there will alwaya be devices that outperform * it'a safe to say the Charge seemed rushed from development to market probably because they were tapped to do so because of either HTC or Motk dropped the ball...
While rooting can solve the much outdated 2.2 joke made at our expense and even though many people have been forced to look at a front face camera (that takes back assward pics no less) and that isn't working across the board for many video chat users....you are forced to deal with an unrecoverable error such as the laughable RAM, arguably necessity of a notifcation LED, and ****ty build quality Samsung (in this device) exemplifies times 10.
Wait and be patient is the best intelligent decision considering the norm will (soon) be:
4.3-4.5 screen (hd res)
1gb of RAM
16gb internal storage
Up to date operating systems...
That said, I enjoy and dislike my Charge.
It's better than my O.G. DROID.
It takes THE best pictures and video of any phone Verizon offers...period.
Do I enjoy the squeaky hard buttons?
Do I like seeing particles of dust (a la bb storm 9530) ?
Do I enjoy ****ty plastic that easily scratches?
Nope.
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I was originally hung up on Quadrant scores and having that dual core. However, after I thought about it, I'm really not sure how important it is considering what I would use the phone for. I have my Xoom, and that is my real "mobile workhorse" now, so that's the device that I'm more concerned about performance on. The phone will primarily be for web browsing, work e-mail, music, tethering, and that's pretty much it. Any other heavy lifting would probably be done by the Xoom. All that being said, I've pretty much convinced myself I won't miss not having the second core. Plus, I'm sure the battery life is better with only 1 core versus 2.
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For what it's worth, running overclocked and undervolted on Froyo Eclipse, my Quadrant scores were 1800-1900, which was about double the original score. Not the best but not terrible. Still had solid battery life, great stability, etc. Definitely glad I got this phone, but that's mainly because I rooted it and fixed so many of the things I didn't like originally. Playing on the EP1Q GummyCharged GBE ROM now and still loving it, just get to use the FFC for video chat.
Honestly, yes there will be VZW devices that out-spec it soon, but I've not found it lacking anything (that couldn't be fixed thanks to the dev community). Very happy with it.
You have the Motorola Bionic and the Galaxy S2 dropping within the month, I'd hold out. Not to say that the Droid Charge isn't good, but, those phones are going to be right around the same price and will smoke the Charge in performance.
The Droid Charge isn't that great. I only got it because I needed something to get in on Unlimited data and the Charge was supposed to get better battery life than the other two LTE phones.
First, the battery life is just OK. Only around 4-5 hours of music streaming.
Second, the 4G reception is incredibly spotty. The phone will drop to 3G for seemingly no reason. Sometimes data cuts out completely or goes to 1x (this is a widespread problem).
Like other Galaxy S phones, this has GPS issues. Sometimes GPS will stop working until you reboot the phones. I've never seen it reports an accuracy of more than 5 meters.
Even after trying the GPS fix posted in the other topic, I was only getting 10-18m accuracy outside with 7-9 satellites in view.
The Super AMOLED+ screen is pretty much amazing though.
It seems like Samsung is decent at hardware but bad at software. And there aren't any ROMs available here that aren't based on Samsung software.
I'd at least wait and see about the Bionic or Nexus Prime.
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* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
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1) I'm VERY happy with my Charge. It's probably because this was my first smartphone but I'm simply blown away by it. Especially considering we have Cyanogen & OMGB/OMFGB coming our way(in-fact, they just got CM working! Not finished, but it's a start)
2) I looked at all the phones that were out and coming out and decided on the Charge. I didn't look into the dev support for other phones I was just looking at specs/reviews to make my decision.
3) Lets get this straight, I am in no way unhappy with my Charge and did not "settle" when picking this phone but in all honesty the Prime/GalaxyS2/Bionic look great and if they were released at the time of me picking out a phone I would have gotten them in that order. Only downside to this phone is the fact that it's not on GB and most likely won't ever get TW4. If you can get around that you'll love this phone. Also, once you see the screen you will never go back to a non Amoled, qHD ain't got **** on this baby!
My wife an I both got charges a couple of months ago. I am rooted and she is stock. When I pick up her phone and mess around with it, I absolutely hate it. I love mine (gummy charged). I don't know how people can use this phone stock.
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My wife an I both got charges a couple of months ago. I am rooted and she is stock. When I pick up her phone and mess around with it, I absolutely hate it. I love mine (gummy charged). I don't know how people can use this phone stock.
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Im almost in the same exact situation and couldnt agree more

Anyone Regret Buying Skyrocket?

Anyone regret buying Skyrocket vs HTC Vivid?
It seems like Skyrocket is very plasticky compare to Vivid. Vivid seems better built. Anyone went from Vivid to Skyrocket?
Any thoughts?
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Don't start the spam, folks, or I'm porting Russian Nyan Cat from the Epic Touch forums...
Please read the forum rules. This does not belong in development.
My mistake. Can the thread be moved?
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I exchanged my sgsII for a vivid on sunday when it came out. Didnt like the phone at all. So i sold it on craigslist for 500 and bought a skyrocket. It is alot better. No regrets.
Yeah, I exchanged my Vivid for a Skyrocket today. Not sure I'm really happy. Synching Outlook to Skyrocket is a PITA. Bluetooth seems pretty bad so far. Could just be the Skyrocket doesn't like the H17... I do like the Font sizes far better on the Skyrocket. Non-LTE Data is just as screwed up on the Skyrocket as the Vivid. Battery life seems better on the Skyrocket.
No regrets. This phone(had it 2 days) does seem slower than my sgs2(had it 2 weeks). Other than that I am enjoying the phone.
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Had the vivid for 3 days and switched to the skyrocket.. that's saying allot for.me to switch since I love the sense ui with htcs.. I would choose skyrocket again in a heartbeat.. the vivid does seem to be built Better but that doesn't mean much when your using the phone lol
I purchased SGS2 i777 myself and exchanged it for Skyrocket i727 but still debating. Skyrocket is still in the box. Vivid as I mentioned on the topic that Vivid seems to be more solid and better built. I really like the screen of Vivid. Its very sharp.
The thing about Vivid is that lack of accessories. Even less than i727. Also there seem to be lack of support/development.
Don't know which way to go!
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After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.
I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.
The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.
The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly dimmer.Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or,for that matter,my Inspire.
The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.
I like the screen resolution on the Skyrocket better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.
The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...
Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.
Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.
Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.
Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).
Both have data issues right now.
Both are plenty fast enough.
I switched from i777 to the skyrocket. Many regrets. Terrible out of the box XviD playback where the i777 was always perfect. I use a lot of CPU intensive apps so I notice the choppiness everyday. But I got a $45 refund and OEM earphones when I switched to the Skyrocket. Plus my gf got me a OEM external charging case + battery so it is too much of a hassle to switch back now. Other than the screen, it is a major downgrade for me until LTE hits my area 2-8 months from now. Then it will probably make up for it when LTE is working because I tether a lot.
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I switched from i777 to the skyrocket. Many regrets. Terrible out of the box XviD playback where the i777 was always perfect. I use a lot of CPU intensive apps so I notice the choppiness everyday. But I got a $45 refund and OEM earphones when I switched to the Skyrocket. Plus my gf got me a OEM external charging case + battery so it is too much of a hassle to switch back now. Other than the screen, it is a major downgrade for me until LTE hits my area 2-8 months from now. Then it will probably make up for it when LTE is working because I tether a lot.
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I bought DICE player which uses hardware decoding and plays xvid just fine.
xvid isn't industry standard and divx is, that's why they didn't add a hardware xvid decoder by default. I consider DICE a good buy as I won't have to worry about whether my future android phones will support media format X.
I kinda' do have regrets...
I'll be 1 week into owning the SR tomorrow. This is my first Android, so there has been a bit of a learning curve. But I dived in and have learned a lot. I'm doing EVERYTHING I can imagine (or researched) and I get what I consider horrible battery life. 5 hours, 1 minute, 10 seconds on battery with all the power setting low, and hardly using it I'm at 21%. There is no way I can get through one day without a charge and theta won't work for me. I'm used to BB battery life and I was ready for a lot less, but this is worse than I expected.
Perhaps because I'm in a western suburb of Chicago (Naperville) and I do not get a strong LTE signal. Speaking of LTE... I'm averaging 5-6 Mbps up and 4-6 Mbps down... is that good? I ask because one time I got 25 up and 6 down when Ii was closer to downtown Chicago. I'm think of going to the original SGS2.
<sigh> well, I've still got time to decide.
Any other thoughts are appreciated.
Regards,
Webwbr
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Still no regrets. But for some reason I wanted my thin ole S2 back and I was tired of the lag and the picture was stretched a little to much for me. (Maybe I got a bad one) So I returned to local ATT store.
I was pleasantly surprised to find out that if you bought online and return to the local ATT store they do not charge the 35 restock fee. .....it gets better.
Then I went to target and he said the ATT S2 was on sale for 99.00. Bought it and now I am happy. To me the s2 just seems to be the right fit.
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I'll be 1 week into owning the SR tomorrow. This is my first Android, so there has been a bit of a learning curve. But I dived in and have learned a lot. I'm doing EVERYTHING I can imagine (or researched) and I get what I consider horrible battery life. 5 hours, 1 minute, 10 seconds on battery with all the power setting low, and hardly using it I'm at 21%. There is no way I can get through one day without a charge and theta won't work for me. I'm used to BB battery life and I was ready for a lot less, but this is worse than I expected.
Perhaps because I'm in a western suburb of Chicago (Naperville) and I do not get a strong LTE signal. Speaking of LTE... I'm averaging 5-6 Mbps up and 4-6 Mbps down... is that good? I ask because one time I got 25 up and 6 down when Ii was closer to downtown Chicago. I'm think of going to the original SGS2.
<sigh> well, I've still got time to decide.
Any other thoughts are appreciated.
Regards,
Webwbr
PS - non-rooted
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If you are getting those speeds you are on 4G (hspa+) not 4G (LTE). The 4g LTE will have LTE under the 4g. I also think that you got yours ups and downs reversed. Down will almost always be the higher number. And that battery life isnt normal. Try getting buying another battery and see if that helps.
skyrocket has crappy screen, i know that this is subjective but side-by-side with htc is not even close. i love the interface but i preferred the ADWLauncher EX home screen so it really doesn't matter.
having said that, the LG Nitro HD is really the way to go so I'm returning this hopefully within the next 3 weeks and getting that one.
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I'll be 1 week into owning the SR tomorrow. This is my first Android, so there has been a bit of a learning curve. But I dived in and have learned a lot. I'm doing EVERYTHING I can imagine (or researched) and I get what I consider horrible battery life. 5 hours, 1 minute, 10 seconds on battery with all the power setting low, and hardly using it I'm at 21%. There is no way I can get through one day without a charge and theta won't work for me. I'm used to BB battery life and I was ready for a lot less, but this is worse than I expected.
Perhaps because I'm in a western suburb of Chicago (Naperville) and I do not get a strong LTE signal. Speaking of LTE... I'm averaging 5-6 Mbps up and 4-6 Mbps down... is that good? I ask because one time I got 25 up and 6 down when Ii was closer to downtown Chicago. I'm think of going to the original SGS2.
<sigh> well, I've still got time to decide.
Any other thoughts are appreciated.
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I have the Skyrocket now for about a week. I went through a bad battery. Replacing it fixed the problem. Battery life is an issue if one does a lot with the phone but it is so in all modern smartphones. I think that the Skyrocket is slightly better in this regard.
I had carefully evaluated the Vivid and the Skyrocket before purchasing. Despite the fact that both phones have supposedly 4.5-inch screens, the Vivid screen is narrower, not by much, but notably so. The Vivid felt "more substantial" but having various HTC phones that died an early death, I am not sold on HTC quality. Not at all. The screen is much better on the Skyrocket and can be kept dim for most of the time, so it would not be much of a drag.
Neither phone has a way of switching off LTE. In fact, part of your problem may be due that your phone detects a weak LTE signal and spends an inordinate amount of power trying to lock on to the signal. This is well known to be an issue with power consumption on both of these devices. I do not know if this helps, but side-by-side reviews note that battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
In any case, Samsung has announced that it would soon update the phone to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream). It may be at about that time that AT&T may implement the NFC capability of the phone (which is attached to the battery for a peculiar reason). So, I would overlook any "software" issues at this time as there is going to be a massive upgrade in about 4 months.
I am not sure if Samsung is producing enhanced batteries for this phone. If one wants to keep the NFC capability, batteries much come only from Samsung, because of the firmware on them. But beefier batteries may alleviate some of the concerns here. Various firmware updates later on may fix other issues as well.
Personally, I feel that it is a great phone and it would have been much better if it had an LTE on/off switch. I was in Chicago last week and the LTE signal there definitely had an impact on battery life although the speeds were awesome.
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skyrocket has crappy screen, i know that this is subjective but side-by-side with htc is not even close.
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i also played vivid at att store, the screen looks more sharp. but i refuse to buy Heavy Thick Craps!
the lighter the phone, the more comfortable in hand!
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I bought DICE player which uses hardware decoding and plays xvid just fine.
xvid isn't industry standard and divx is, that's why they didn't add a hardware xvid decoder by default. I consider DICE a good buy as I won't have to worry about whether my future android phones will support media format X.
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I just tried DICE Player Trial on a few XviDs. Unfortunately, it does not help. Pretty much it has same or very similar results than the standard out of the box player. Videos that should have 29.97 or 23.97fps, all play around 15-20fps. If you want to see the striking difference, try MX Player, and enable software decode. The phone is powerful enough to deliver native fps with software decode. It is just that the hardware accelerated upscaled image quality is so much better, than the software upscaled image. Basically I want to have my cake and eat it too. Just like I did with i777. With i727, you can either take a hit on resolution, or fps. Maybe Ice Cream Sandwich can improve things? It is not that this phone is incapable. There is something not working right that is making this happen.

From captivate to gs2, my experience

Thought I would share my thoughts on the new gs2 after coming from the captivate for those thinking of upgrading.
Ok, So Ive been waiting for some time, impatiently, to upgrade to gs2, I do like waiting till phones are at or near free, so when I found out I could trade in my captivate at tartget for 60 bucks credit and get the gs2 in my hands right there for 40 more I jumped at it. 40 is cheap enough
So first thing I noticed was that screen seemed quite a bit more vivid. I mean the colors jump out at you. I love this screen. Coupled with gorilla glass, you just cant beat it. Retina what?
Next thing i realized, is I have small thumbs. This screen is a bit bigger, and i found it uncomfartable to reach much of the sceen with my not so flexable thumbs. I almost have to use 2 hands to use this phone. Not the phones fault, as Im sure those blessed with long nimble thumbs have no problem.
the phone is quite a bit faster than the captivate, but not so much that I want to do backflips or anything. Scrolling is mostly smooth, but I do still notice a stutter here and there. Games play perfectly, plenty of power for even the most demanding games like ShadowGun-as expected.
Phone call quality is decent. However, if you use your gs2 with a case, you may want to do some research before buying one. I bought a case day1. people kept telling me I sounded muffled, and there was an echo for them. I heard them just fine. So I started searching the internets and come to find out, its a common problem. A design flaw. When you remove the case all is fine. But with it on problem comes back. Some case are worse. some are better.
I am running a custom rom, however the Roms arent yet on par with captivate ones. On the positive side, you dont have to choose between Audience chip support or more features. However, there is no stock ics roms yet only ported with soft keys mapped to touchscreen as work around for missing support for them. The GB roms run great, but have less features than captivate roms such as exra lockscreens or extra extended power menu options.
I like the camera, but I cant seem to figure out how to zoom in. The rom Im running has modded the camera so that thevolume rocker takes picture.
Battery life for me has not been super great, but thats probably because I cant keep my hands off it.
Gps is one of the two main reasons i wanted to upgrade, and man I tell you it works 1000 times better than the captivate. I mean it actually works.
The other reason(excuse) for upgrading was the flash. It works very well. It boggles my mind that a phone can be such a good camera. And now I even have flash. Beautiful.
Not only is the flash useful for taking pics, but with a custom rom, I have a notification toggle to turn on the flash light to see in the dark and WOW is it bright.
Im definatly going to keep this thing. The positives way outnumber the negatives. Im really liking it especially the screen. For the hell of it I put an aquarium live walpaper on and the colors are so crisp and vivid I just sit there staring at it. I want to show every1, especially iphone users
I hope this review helps anyone thinking of making the switch.
Thanks I still have to wait till November to upgrade, by then I will be looking at the galaxy s 3!
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Thought I would share my thoughts on the new gs2 after coming from the captivate for those thinking of upgrading.
Ok, So Ive been waiting for some time, impatiently, to upgrade to gs2, I do like waiting till phones are at or near free, so when I found out I could trade in my captivate at tartget for 60 bucks credit and get the gs2 in my hands right there for 40 more I jumped at it. 40 is cheap enough
So first thing I noticed was that screen seemed quite a bit more vivid. I mean the colors jump out at you. I love this screen. Coupled with gorilla glass, you just cant beat it. Retina what?
Next thing i realized, is I have small thumbs. This screen is a bit bigger, and i found it uncomfartable to reach much of the sceen with my not so flexable thumbs. I almost have to use 2 hands to use this phone. Not the phones fault, as Im sure those blessed with long nimble thumbs have no problem.
the phone is quite a bit faster than the captivate, but not so much that I want to do backflips or anything. Scrolling is mostly smooth, but I do still notice a stutter here and there. Games play perfectly, plenty of power for even the most demanding games like ShadowGun-as expected.
Phone call quality is decent. However, if you use your gs2 with a case, you may want to do some research before buying one. I bought a case day1. people kept telling me I sounded muffled, and there was an echo for them. I heard them just fine. So I started searching the internets and come to find out, its a common problem. A design flaw. When you remove the case all is fine. But with it on problem comes back. Some case are worse. some are better.
I am running a custom rom, however the Roms arent yet on par with captivate ones. On the positive side, you dont have to choose between Audience chip support or more features. However, there is no stock ics roms yet only ported with soft keys mapped to touchscreen as work around for missing support for them. The GB roms run great, but have less features than captivate roms such as exra lockscreens or extra extended power menu options.
I like the camera, but I cant seem to figure out how to zoom in. The rom Im running has modded the camera so that thevolume rocker takes picture.
Battery life for me has not been super great, but thats probably because I cant keep my hands off it.
Gps is one of the two main reasons i wanted to upgrade, and man I tell you it works 1000 times better than the captivate. I mean it actually works.
The other reason(excuse) for upgrading was the flash. It works very well. It boggles my mind that a phone can be such a good camera. And now I even have flash. Beautiful.
Not only is the flash useful for taking pics, but with a custom rom, I have a notification toggle to turn on the flash light to see in the dark and WOW is it bright.
Im definatly going to keep this thing. The positives way outnumber the negatives. Im really liking it especially the screen. For the hell of it I put an aquarium live walpaper on and the colors are so crisp and vivid I just sit there staring at it. I want to show every1, especially iphone users
I hope this review helps anyone thinking of making the switch.
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I just got my sgs2 as well and I love it. It amazes me that the phone is barely wider than the captivate. Having a big hand, its easy for me to hold and use.
This is probably better to ask over there but what rom and modem did you use? I found kk6 people sound muffled but KH7 sounds great.
I picked up a TPU case for 10 bucks that fits the phone like a glove just like otter box on the captivate, only thing I had to do was widen the USB area so I can plug on USB cable easier. No issues with the mic and no complaints from callers.
Battery life has been superb for me. My captivate on cm9 with anker battery was the only way to compete. I get typically 3 hours of screen and two hours of calls before draining.
Pinch to zoom in the camera if your using a modded camera. Stock uses the volume rocker.
I love the sgs2, I was waiting for sgs3 announcement but I'm glad I got this phone in the mean time.
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you have to pinch to zoom on the screen when taking pictures to get it to zoom.
Ha! Thanks for the zoom tip! Awesome.
And I'm shostock ROM and beforeI found out that it was my case causing my issues, I flashed kh7 from kk6 no problems so far.
Using entropys latest kernel.
Funny thing is when I got the phone I decided I wasn't going to flash a ROM for at least a week just to see how stock feels. I didn't even make it 24 hours
One other thing to note that is obvious is that the back cover is not metal like on the captivate and there's no latching Mechanism like on the captivate. When the covers on it feels very sturdy no problems there. Taking it on and off , it feels a little bit cheap. It seems like it may wear out in time so if you're using an extra battery that may be a problem.
Rock out with your Shostock out
Great review! I am finally up for a new phone and was thinking of switching the the SGS2.
It's either the SGS2 or Asus Padfone (I'm really hoping this comes out for ATT).
Thanks to your review I will most likely get the SGS2 if the Padfone doesn't come out to ATT.
thanks for the review...id love an sgs2 but since i am with rogers canada they have the skyrocket....and from what ive read its not quite on par with the sgs2 from att/bell/telus. im either waiting on the sgs3 or maybe the razr maxx if rogers gets it.
heres hopin! rockin the cappy for a few more months anyway!
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artvandalay22222 said:
Funny thing is when I got the phone I decided I wasn't going to flash a ROM for at least a week just to see how stock feels. I didn't even make it 24 hours
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I wanted to run stock when my phone first arrived just to get a feel for it... that lasted maybe 5 minutes before it was rooted and bloat removed. So I thought after that, I'll see how stock runs... 20 minutes later I was on SHOstock! Running UnOriginal last few days and it has been great!
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I wanted to run stock when my phone first arrived just to get a feel for it... that lasted maybe 5 minutes before it was rooted and bloat removed. So I thought after that, I'll see how stock runs... 20 minutes later I was on SHOstock! Running UnOriginal last few days and it has been great!
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I've been looking at unoriginal and ultimatum. Think I might try one. I like shostock, but I wish it had jkay mod
Rock out with your Shostock out
I just got my SGS2 today, bought it from Ebay to replace my dear captivate... It's an amazing phone to say the least.
I'm really satisfied with my purchase, this phone flies and it's classy as heck.
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Agreed the sgs2 is an awesome phone. The captivate was great in its day and still is in my opinion. I have both and i must say the sgs2 picked up where the captivate was lacking in every aspect. The only thing i miss is the development is not yet mature like it is here. But it is getting better by the day.
One last thing, the sgs2 is durable. Mine has taken several hard drops and one dunk in the tub. Its sill alive an good as new.
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Get a protective case, man!
Get a protective case, man!
My Captivate fallen numerous times, I carry it in the pocket with my keys and it still looks like new.
I only have screen protector to avoid scratches.
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One last thing, the sgs2 is durable. Mine has taken several hard drops and one dunk in the tub. Its sill alive an good as new.
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Nice input... I'm upgrading in July and am torn between the note and the s2
Thanks for the review. Im actually up for an upgrade in less than a month. I am only considering the SGS2 (not the skyrocket). However, with the SGS3 seeming to be so close, is it worth it to wait for it? When it releases will we have to wait 4 months till ATT bakes their stuff in? I am torn between waiting for SGS3 and just flashing ICS on my cappy or just going for the SGS2
ICS kernel source dropped for the i9100 this morning so more roms for the SGS2 should be out soon in ICS flavor. Plus we have expanded and have two different forums for development now, Original development and ported development. Original is for roms created from stock source and ported for anything hellraised or ported manually from a i9100. The i9100 international version and i777 att SGS2 are even closer related than the comparison between i9000 and i897. With the hell raiser from Entropy ANYONE can easily port a i9100 Rom onto a i777.
Now onto whether to wait for the SGS3 is a question only each individual can answer. But the SGS2 is a very kickass phone and wont disappoint. It has everything our cappies were missing plus any/most all roms are super stable and speeds even at the stock 1.2 seem faster and smoother than my cappy at 1.2, 1.4, or 1.6ghz. Just a well made phone with great battery life, great camera, cannot think of one thing that really is bad. Oh ha gps works great too.
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I had been wanting to upgrade to the SGS2 for a long time now (since it first came out on Rogers), but my next upgrade won't be until this November.
Should be plenty of time for Rogers to get the SGS3, right?
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I work right next door to a rogers store. If I hear word of the sgIII. You'll be seeing a post here. I would consider the switch. For now the captivate has been an incredible phone.
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El Niche said:
Thanks for the review. Im actually up for an upgrade in less than a month. I am only considering the SGS2 (not the skyrocket). However, with the SGS3 seeming to be so close, is it worth it to wait for it? When it releases will we have to wait 4 months till ATT bakes their stuff in? I am torn between waiting for SGS3 and just flashing ICS on my cappy or just going for the SGS2
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Ok well here's my advice (take it with a grain of salt if you will but this is what I would do if I was in your shoes):
Install CM9 on my Cappy w/ Glitch B5 and overclock it to 1.4Ghz. Then I'd just hold it out until the GS3 comes out.
Problem solved! Patience is a virtue, my friend
In case anyone's planning on giving up on the GS3 and go with the 2, AT&T has them for $9.99 now... personally, I'm planning on waiting it out a bit and see what comes available in the next couple of months. Should be completely out of my contact by then and will be able to switch carriers if there's a better deal to be had somewhere else.
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