Tbolt Vs Bionic - Thunderbolt General

I just picked up a a Bionic from a local guy for $250 mint in box. I did not think the SIM swap would work being with Verizon so long and having to call or swap phones online with the ESN, but it work flawlessly.
I am liking this Bionic alot. Just pick up the extended battery for half off at the a Corp Verizon store today. This thing is faster, lighter, thinner, and just over all sleeker looking than my TBolt with the mole (Extended battery) on the back. That is one thing I really hated on the Tbolt is how the extended battery fit.
I don't even have this Bionic rooted yet and it blows away my Tbolt on battery life and speed. I'm still getting use to the Motorola android system but digging it so far.
Just some thoughts... I still have my TBolt up and running on WiFi only.

Both have plusses and minuses.
It's all about personal preference...
Don't think you can use Data and voice at the same time on the Bionic (that's a big deal for some...not for others..)
I personally like sense. You either love it or hate it... those that hate it tend to like the Motorola devices.
Traditionally, HTC devices are not locked down like Motorola...
Moto makes quality hardware, no doubt about it.
Moto phones are known for better battery life, etc.
I'm still very happy with my bolt...gotta give it up soon as we're going to T-Mobile for work, but I'm still very happy with it. Can't wait till ICS is running on it...

dajogejr said:
Don't think you can use Data and voice at the same time on the Bionic (that's a big deal for some...not for others..)
Traditionally, HTC devices are not locked down like Motorola...
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The first by itself is huge. The second makes it a deal breaker. I can't imagine the difference in speed being anything other than negligible and mitigating.

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The first by itself is huge. The second makes it a deal breaker. I can't imagine the difference in speed being anything other than negligible and mitigating.
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What is Huge? The Tbolt or the Bionic? The Tbolt is bigger and heaver than the Bionic with or without the extended batteries installed.
Also I am not a speed freak. Matter of fact I force 3G on all my droids don't really see the need to run 4G. I am just not liking the HTC built quality after looking and holding other phones and they way they designed use of the extended battery. wow...
The Dinc was not bad it actually looked kool with the layers in the back.
Yes they both have there positives and negatives and like I said I am keeping the Tbolt. It's nice now you can just swap the sim and you on the new phone. That is one thing I always like about the GSM networks.
If I could find a Battery that would keep the original shape (not the big ugly bump on the back) of the Tbolt and last like the Bionic. I would probably stay with the Tbolt
I am still liking the Bionic a little better right now and it's still Stock.
May be rooting it today, but really don't think I will need to other than to remove bloat
That new Razr looks sweet but I would to see it with an extended battery. Also heard that Verizon is locking the bootloader on it, but I am sure it will be rooted after a while.

Rezound battery for $19.99?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353300
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=135247

recDNA said:
Rezound battery for $19.99?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353300
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=135247
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I need to see if the local Verizon store has it in stock. I will buy and try.
I like in the androidcentral post (Forgetful) mentions it's a Lipo battery. Ya right I wish. The Iphone 4 has a Lipo battery in it and My TF101 Transformer 32GB has a Lipo battery in it and they are awesome, but if you have a device that has a Lipo battery in it you will not be able to remove it. Google Lipo Battery fires. I use these batteries in my RC aircraft and I keep them in a fire proof box. They will catch fire if you break the pack and introduce air to the chemicals inside. They also take special chargers.
These Droids would be sweet running Lipo batteries. I almost got an iphone (cough cough) because of this.

kendive said:
That new Razr looks sweet but I would to see it with an extended battery. Also heard that Verizon is locking the bootloader on it, but I am sure it will be rooted after a while.
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I, too, would like to see the extended battery for the razr as it is not a removable battery phone

nbdysreal said:
I, too, would like to see the extended battery for the razr as it is not a removable battery phone
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Ohhhhh... I did not know that? Thanks for learning me something.
Is it a Lipo battery??? I need to look into this.
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Nope just looked it up. A normal Li-Ion battery
If you can't remove the battery this Droid Razr is a major POS
Droid Razr
Battery: 1780 mAH Li–Ion
SAR: Head 1.45 W/kg / Body–worn 0.71 W/kg
Talk Time – Up to approx. 12.5 hours or Standby Time – Up to approx. 8.5 days

kendive said:
Ohhhhh... I did not know that? Thanks for learning me something.
Is it a Lipo battery??? I need to look into this.
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Nope just looked it up. A normal Li-Ion battery
If you can't remove the battery this Droid Razr is a major POS
Droid Razr
Battery: 1780 mAH Li–Ion
SAR: Head 1.45 W/kg / Body–worn 0.71 W/kg
Talk Time – Up to approx. 12.5 hours or Standby Time – Up to approx. 8.5 days
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I looked into it a little more and it is easier to replace the battery than say on an iPhone, but they definately don't want you doing it. The back casing needs to be edged out all the way around with a fingernail, and the battery is GLUED to the back case, which can be removed carefully. After that, the battery is electrical taped down. So for whatever reason, they don't want you in it. Also, the manual says removing the case voids the warranty, but the write up said they didn't see any "void if removed" stickers. Just some info you might not care to read

I actually got worse battery life on the bionic with the extended battery than the tbolt with the stock battery. I have switched back to the tbolt and like it better. I hate the fact the bionic has a locked bootloader and is the reason I will not buy another moto phone. I have been watching the rezound and the moment it gets s-off and I have sold the bionic I will be buying the rezound.
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I, personally, have both the Bionic and the Tbolt too and I gotta say that I prefer the Tbolt by far. The Tbolt has a developer rich community where the Bionic has a locked bootloader and roms that simply aren't very inventive. I would advise AGAINST rooting the Bionic as it seems to mess with bluetooth connectivity, gps, and the dock. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Kejar and DroidTh3ory and the rest of the Bionic dev gang BUT my personal opinion is that the Tbolt is the saving grace for those that like to have options with their phone's operating system. To make my case in point, I am using my goofed up(my fault for deleting stuff) Tbolt and letting my Bionic just SIT lol.

nosympathy said:
I actually got worse battery life on the bionic with the extended battery than the tbolt with the stock battery. I have switched back to the tbolt and like it better. I hate the fact the bionic has a locked bootloader and is the reason I will not buy another moto phone. I have been watching the rezound and the moment it gets s-off and I have sold the bionic I will be buying the rezound.
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I did not know that the Bionic has a locked bootloader they have root and custom roms already for it...
I might look at the rezound also. I hope the extended battery is better thought out than the Tbolt.

kendive said:
I did not know that the Bionic has a locked bootloader they have root and custom roms already for it...
I might look at the rezound also. I hope the extended battery is better thought out than the Tbolt.
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I never felt the need for the extended battery on the tbolt because of custom kernels that ran very lean, and using setcpu to set profiles for when the screen is off. With the bionic, for starters, it felt to light and frail without the extended battery, and also the extended battery was needed because of the lack of custom kernels due to the locked bootloader the thing eats battery like crazy.
Personally I had only ever purchased HTC phones, but got the bionic anyway. I learned from my mistake, and will probably only ever purchase HTC phones ever again, unless this bootloader issue gets figuired out. Seems like moto phones never get the bootloader cracked.
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htcdesirezgeorge said:
I, personally, have both the Bionic and the Tbolt too and I gotta say that I prefer the Tbolt by far. The Tbolt has a developer rich community where the Bionic has a locked bootloader and roms that simply aren't very inventive. I would advise AGAINST rooting the Bionic as it seems to mess with bluetooth connectivity, gps, and the dock. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Kejar and DroidTh3ory and the rest of the Bionic dev gang BUT my personal opinion is that the Tbolt is the saving grace for those that like to have options with their phone's operating system. To make my case in point, I am using my goofed up(my fault for deleting stuff) Tbolt and letting my Bionic just SIT lol.
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Good stuff to know. Thanks.
I have not rooted the Bionic yet. I do like the Tbolt I put the original battery back in to make it lighter and slimmer and I'm liking it even more. I just worry about battery life. I will go pick up a Rezound battery today and see how that goes.
The Bionic seems to have better battery life for me. I like having a spare driod and I got a good deal on the Bionic. I may sell it on ebay and make a few bucks and then pick up a Rezound to play with. I am hearing good things about it and the back cover looks like it would not be bad to have an extended battery in it.

kendive said:
Good stuff to know. Thanks.
I have not rooted the Bionic yet. I do like the Tbolt I put the original battery back in to make it lighter and slimmer and I'm liking it even more. I just worry about battery life. I will go pick up a Rezound battery today and see how that goes.
The Bionic seems to have better battery life for me. I like having a spare driod and I got a good deal on the Bionic. I may sell it on ebay and make a few bucks and then pick up a Rezound to play with. I am hearing good things about it and the back cover looks like it would not be bad to have an extended battery in it.
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Kendive, I like the way you think. I just discovered last night one great thing with rooting the Bionicn though. There is a hack where you can use the 4g hotspot(21mbps for me) for free. It doesn't have the right chipset to provide a hotspot for PS3 and game systems(just computers) but still it's pretty nice! Let me know if you get the rezound, I'd be interested in hearing what you think about it!

I had an iphone 4 for about a year, and then decided to get the Tbolt, Bought it off of somebody for 150 that was only a month old. I love the phone. but wanted something faster. So I ended up trading my iPhone4 for a Bionic and thought I would be in love with it. I switched to the bionic and had so many problems with it. I couldn't stand the 4G issues. One of the reasons I switched from the iphone to thunderbolt. I hated that I couldnt wifi tether my 4G to my iPad . So I went back to the thunderbolt. As of right now my bionic is sitting in my bookbag not getting any use and I am back to using my rooted TB with the extended battery. As much as I would love to use the bionic, it just wasn't cutting it for me. If I could find a way to wifi tether with it, I might try and use it again..

kidnice15 said:
I had an iphone 4 for about a year, and then decided to get the Tbolt, Bought it off of somebody for 150 that was only a month old. I love the phone. but wanted something faster. So I ended up trading my iPhone4 for a Bionic and thought I would be in love with it. I switched to the bionic and had so many problems with it. I couldn't stand the 4G issues. One of the reasons I switched from the iphone to thunderbolt. I hated that I couldnt wifi tether my 4G to my iPad . So I went back to the thunderbolt. As of right now my bionic is sitting in my bookbag not getting any use and I am back to using my rooted TB with the extended battery. As much as I would love to use the bionic, it just wasn't cutting it for me. If I could find a way to wifi tether with it, I might try and use it again..
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Wow so many people that have the Bionic just sitting around. I am still using the Bionic and have no issues with data. Like I said I force 3G. I also did that on the Tbolt I don't really see a need for 4G and it sucks up the battery to fast. I could see you point with the WiFi tether and 4G if the Tbolt was on AC power.
I think I tried the WiFi tether once to to see it works but really don't need it PDANet works great for me to use with a laptop once in a while in an Airport, but I don't even do that much.
They both are great phones. I like them equally.
And it's kinda nice right now not being rooted and not worrying about what ROM I want to try next and then wipe my phone and reload everything. My Wife can't believe my phones still work as much as I mess with them. LOL

Well I got a rezound battery coming for the Tbolt and I will give it another chance on battery life. The Verizon store did not have any in stock but shipping me one for $19.99
I got to play with that new Razr. Pretty sweet phone and he said the battery has not been bad at all. Time will tell.

kendive said:
Wow so many people that have the Bionic just sitting around. I am still using the Bionic and have no issues with data. Like I said I force 3G. I also did that on the Tbolt I don't really see a need for 4G and it sucks up the battery to fast. I could see you point with the WiFi tether and 4G if the Tbolt was on AC power.
I think I tried the WiFi tether once to to see it works but really don't need it PDANet works great for me to use with a laptop once in a while in an Airport, but I don't even do that much.
They both are great phones. I like them equally.
And it's kinda nice right now not being rooted and not worrying about what ROM I want to try next and then wipe my phone and reload everything. My Wife can't believe my phones still work as much as I mess with them. LOL
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Yea trust me, I hate the fact that I got the phone and I am not using it, after all this bionic talk I am thinking about switching back to it and giving it another try, maybe even force just 3G. Like you said, both are great phones and I like them a lot better then the iPhone I had. What is PDANet I keep hearing about? when I was using the bionic I used to just usb to my laptop for internet while I was out. I still don't understand why Verizon lets you do that for free with the bionic but with the thunderbolt you have to pay

The tethering with the Bionic is pretty easy.
Here are the steps:
1. Root Bionic with Petes 1click
2. download SQlite editor
3. open SQlite editor(give it some time)
4. Filter by name and type "Check"
5. Change Value next to "Entitlement Check" from 1 to ZERO(0)
6. reboot phone
7. Enjoy 4g tethering for FREE!

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there's only one thing about this phone that bothers me...

the battery life. I mean 1230 isn't small compared to iPhone 3G that I currently have, so I'd assume it would last longer. I hope.
are there programs to optimize battery life? I've never used android and don't know hardly anything about custom stuff. I browse the web and check Facebook pretty often during the day (got to kill time on bus rides to class) as well as music and texting often. I'm a little worried about how the battery will fair for me :/
Anyone know if there are extended batteries for this? (I'd also assume that the one for the DHD fits as well)
I have seen 1600 batteries for the Desire HD so maybe they will work for the inspire
I totally agree. My ONLY reservation about the Inspire is the pint-sized battery!
I've had discussions on other boards about this exact issue, and there are some Inspire lovers who are so attached to this phone they feel offended when I try holding their feet to the fire during discussions regarding the battery life.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that even though most people who have already decided to buy the Inspire don't have any reservations about the battery life, I still do. But hopefully more info will come out regarding the lightweight battery. Then I hope we all can make a better decision on whether or not to get this phone!
I am certainly not going to let the battery size affect my decision.
I have seen many reviews all stating 10-12 hours with heavy use, it seems they have optimized this phone since the original desire HD
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I am certainly not going to let the battery size affect my decision.
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Thats pretty much how I feel about it, this phone is pretty damn fast and for 99 bucks it's a hell of a deal!
1200 mah battery?
That's gonna go fast with android....unless you take the "smart" out of smartphone (eg. Disabling 3g, auto-sync, email fetching etc.)
If you get this phone, an extended battery seems a must.....
Especialy since you're new with android. The iphone "just works" compared with android...you have to put your own tweaks here and there to make it your version of "perfect", but that's what makes android android
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A_Flying_Fox said:
1200 mah battery?
That's gonna go fast with android....unless you take the "smart" out of smartphone (eg. Disabling 3g, auto-sync, email fetching etc.)
If you get this phone, an extended battery seems a must.....
Especialy since you're new with android. The iphone "just works" compared with android...you have to put your own tweaks here and there to make it your version of "perfect", but that's what makes android android
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I love all the subjective guessing around here, watch some reviews read some reviews everyone has stated 10-12 hour battery life with moderate to heavy use, dont just assume because of the millwatt hours that it will automatically suck, and dont compare it to previous models because there has been some optimization
Officially, the battery is said to provide up to 6 hours of talk time and as much as 15.5 days of standby. Those are pretty amazing estimates for such a small battery. In our tests the Inspire 4G was able to provide 10-11 hours of use – including making a bunch of voice calls (some longer than 15 minutes), watching live-streaming TV news feeds, checking and answering my emails every 5 minutes or so, having the built-in GPS help find a friend’s location and even playing a few games of Solitaire. HTC is doing something right with squeezing so much from such a compact battery pack.
http://thefastertimes.com/cellphones/2011/02/03/atts-inspire-4g-a-top-tier-android-at-a-good-price/
This is just one review of the many
Im sure there will be an extended battery for this phone. it makes no sense not to make one! and htc has been good so far so why not build an extended battery.
I've been testing this phone since late last week and can say that the battery live is comparable to most other android handsets currently on the market. If you're a heavy user, don't expect to get more than 9-12 hours out of the battery.
The longest the battery has lasted for me was 25 hours. On Saturday I used to phone pretty lightly (2 phone calls, a couple text messages, checked twitter throughout the day, downloaded 700MB worth of files for Dungeon Defenders over Wi-Fi, and played the game for about 30 minutes). When I went to bed, the phone was at 13% battery life, but I left it unplugged overnight to see if it would last until the morning. With all notifications and sync still on, the Inspire still had 3% battery life when I woke up 9 hours later.
I'd imaging if I didn't download 700BM of data the phone would have lasted much longer under "light use."
AndreaCristiano said:
I have seen many reviews all stating 10-12 hours with heavy use, it seems they have optimized this phone since the original desire HD
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"Optimized" what do you mean? Is there proof that ATT optimized the rom to run longer then the original Desire HD?
The battery size isn't going to keep me away but i just like to know. I also noticed that the inspire has SLCD instead LCD in the DHD. Will the super lcd screen give a better battery life?
Eventhough, extended battery is released, how will it fit into the phone. Is there enough room for a larger battery. This phone will be my next sucessor to my nexus one. It will do til the next real Nexus. I just love the unibody style.
AndreaCristiano said:
I love all the subjective guessing around here, watch some reviews read some reviews everyone has stated 10-12 hour battery life with moderate to heavy use, dont just assume because of the millwatt hours that it will automatically suck, and dont compare it to previous models because there has been some optimization
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I love all the baseless justification for a retarded consumer move to save money.
Htc always has to mess something up in their phones.
This time, luckily, its only the battery which can be easily replaced
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I love all the baseless justification for a retarded consumer move to save money.
Htc always has to mess something up in their phones.
This time, luckily, its only the battery which can be easily replaced
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meanwhile there are posts from nick above from HTC source and he actually has the phone and he states over and over 9-12 hours heavy use.
ok guys, I'm very excited about getting this phone. But I don't really want buyer's remorse, so help convince me 100%!
to be honest, I like having the latest and greatest phone. I constantly monitor the tech world (Gizmodo and Engadget are my top two pages on Chrome!), but coming from a 18 month old 3G iphone, pretty much anything now is an upgrade. I just don't want to regret getting this and being locked in for two years while the "future" is released in half a month afterwards. So justify the things holding me back:
screen resolution
battery
single core Scorpion
no sideloading
if you guys could kindly help me out, it would be greatly appreciated!
antioch216 said:
ok guys, I'm very excited about getting this phone. But I don't really want buyer's remorse, so help convince me 100%!
to be honest, I like having the latest and greatest phone. I constantly monitor the tech world (Gizmodo and Engadget are my top two pages on Chrome!), but coming from a 18 month old 3G iphone, pretty much anything now is an upgrade. I just don't want to regret getting this and being locked in for two years while the "future" is released in half a month afterwards. So justify the things holding me back:
screen resolution
battery
single core Scorpion
no sideloading
if you guys could kindly help me out, it would be greatly appreciated!
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well the supposedly great qHD screen on the atrix has been having some none pleasant reviews with colors and app recreation. The superamoled on samsungs has burn in and doesnt save battery so the SuperLCD doesnt look that bad huh?
Battery has been consistently getting 9-12 hours heavy use by many reviewers
the processor in the inspire is pulling 1976 quadrant scores bone stock
sideloading really not a big deal, use airplane mode or sideload wonder machine
any questions?
nope thanks man, I'm 99% sold! I just need to google what side load wonder machine is lol. I'm loving the build quality and support from HTC and you guys here, though I've never rooted or flashed or anything. Guess I'll start learning
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nope thanks man, I'm 99% sold! I just need to google what side load wonder machine is lol. I'm loving the build quality and support from HTC and you guys here, though I've never rooted or flashed or anything. Guess I'll start learning
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side load wonder machine is from android central and it allows you to sideload apps on AT&T phones that dont allow it. PS theres a thread in one of the Inspire sections on here
ah, sounds sweet. I'm getting excited. Though, I'll probably wait for MWC to at least happen in case they surprise us. And one last question I think, anyone have pictures or a source of the 2 different colors they have?
antioch216 said:
ah, sounds sweet. I'm getting excited. Though, I'll probably wait for MWC to at least happen in case they surprise us. And one last question I think, anyone have pictures or a source of the 2 different colors they have?
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its weird at CES they showed a bronze color if you check out the videos you will see but now they are all black, im thinking CES was a desire HD with AT&T logo on the back, thats also why they didnt allow you to turn on the phone

Switch from my thunderbolt to a charge?

So I currently have a thunderbolt, and to be honest, I am technically outside the return policy with best buy, but I am trying to get them to agree to exchange the phone since in my opinion it is terrible. I have an evo 4G and it was a great phone, and the thunderbolt has the potential to be great, but the battery life, crappy screen, light leakage all around the capacitive buttons and spot lights on the screen from the capacitive buttons, is just terrible.
If they let me exchange the phone, I don't want to be an ass, and get a charge, only to turn around and exchange it for a thunderbolt again if the charge is that bad.
Anyone who has switched from a thunderbolt to a charge care to shout out how they feel about the switch?
CM7 support seems iffy for the charge, and I know I want a real CM7 for the thunderbolt not the alpha that works half the time, but if it has been that hard to get a well working CM7 on the thunderbolt, probably never happen on the charge? since the current GB leak from HTC is bigger than Froyo...
The screen, the battery life, and the physical buttons make me want this phone, but I don't want to switch if it means worse headaches than I currently have. No need to trade a demon for a devil.
If battery life is a big issue for you, then you might want to rethink the Charge unless you buy the bigger battery. But from what I can tell, if you buy the larger battery you also have to buy a new back cover as well. So figure spending an extra 50 bucks. In all, with my purchase I got a car charger and screan protecters and ended up paying 375 after taxes. Add an extr 50 for the battery and cover and your well over 425. As for the standard battery life, I have to charge it every day. I'd say if you use it alot through out the day it'll last about 5-8 hrs max. But I havent really took the time to tell exactally. Just know you want go a whole day without charging it.
Bryan
I had the Thunderbolt and returned it for battery and reception issues, 1st i went with an iphone as i know they last forever on a charge, im a heavy business user and was getting 2-3 hours per battery with the TB ( i had to have 3 and swap them out thru the day ), i got the charge yesterday and ran the battery down to zero, then charged full, then blasted it back down which still took a while, back on charge over night, took it off charge this morning at 6:15am, ive been listening to music for a little over an hour, downloading market items, around 20 calls, 20 texts and 10-15 emails, and ive not used 25% yet
i love the charge, best thing i did was return the TB, the TB is a faster phone due the the extra 256mb of ram but not much thats gonna drive you crazy, im used to it already, also dont use the stock browser as it sucks, i also use launcher pro with my charge and it makes life a lot better again, give me the charge anyday, better screen, i think it looks better, i really like the physical buttons, you can hotswap sd cards ( not in the TB due to sd slot under battery) miles better battery, just over all better
I had a Thunderbolt for roughly 5 weeks and recently swapped to a Charge. So far, I'm very glad I made the change and plan on sticking with this phone until a dual core LTE phone is released. Here are the differences that I see :
Battery life: Charge definitely wins here, although I still wouldn't say the battery life is "good." The main difference seems to be idling. My Thunderbolt battery would drain VERY quickly while in my pocket. (assuming i was on LTE) The charge does not do this.
Screen: No contest. I did not care for the Thunderbolt screen and the Charge screen is amazing.
Software: Sense is far better than Touchwiz, although I don't personally care for either. Root for ED1/ED2 as well as clockwork mod was just released for the Charge, so it is only a matter of time before we have full roms that nuke the nasty orange and brown menus.
CDMA/LTE radio : Signal strength seems to be about the same for me on both phones, although I'm often on a "fringe" LTE area in Las Vegas. The Thunderbolt would always hang onto 1 bar of LTE leaving me with no data connectivity whatsoever. (not to mention draining the battery in record fashion) The charge sits on 3G in these areas - which i DEFINITELY prefer.
Also, I love the physical buttons and the lighter weight of the charge. Honestly, the touchwiz software and slightly laggy stock browser (easily fixed by downloading another browser on the market) are my only "complaints." I'd do the swap over again in a heart beat.
Goronok said:
I had a Thunderbolt for roughly 5 weeks and recently swapped to a Charge. So far, I'm very glad I made the change and plan on sticking with this phone until a dual core LTE phone is released. Here are the differences that I see :
Battery life: Charge definitely wins here, although I still wouldn't say the battery life is "good." The main difference seems to be idling. My Thunderbolt battery would drain VERY quickly while in my pocket. (assuming i was on LTE) The charge does not do this.
Screen: No contest. I did not care for the Thunderbolt screen and the Charge screen is amazing.
Software: Sense is far better than Touchwiz, although I don't personally care for either. Root for ED1/ED2 as well as clockwork mod was just released for the Charge, so it is only a matter of time before we have full roms that nuke the nasty orange and brown menus.
CDMA/LTE radio : Signal strength seems to be about the same for me on both phones, although I'm often on a "fringe" LTE area in Las Vegas. The Thunderbolt would always hang onto 1 bar of LTE leaving me with no data connectivity whatsoever. (not to mention draining the battery in record fashion) The charge sits on 3G in these areas - which i DEFINITELY prefer.
Also, I love the physical buttons and the lighter weight of the charge. Honestly, the touchwiz software and slightly laggy stock browser (easily fixed by downloading another browser on the market) are my only "complaints." I'd do the swap over again in a heart beat.
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I second everything said here except the physical buttons.
I also had a TB for almost 5 weeks. I enjoy the Charge more, but honestly the lack of ram is very noticeable.
Either way, this will be me phone until dual-core LTEs come out (excluding Moto Bionic).
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I did and the difference is day and night.
-A lot more battery life
-Amazing screen
-Screen does not scratch easy like TB did
-Weighs a lot less
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I second everything said here except the physical buttons.
I also had a TB for almost 5 weeks. I enjoy the Charge more, but honestly the lack of ram is very noticeable.
Either way, this will be me phone until dual-core LTEs come out (excluding Moto Bionic).
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So five weeks. Did verizon let you just exchange the phone? I am pretty sure best buy will let me exchange it as i will be a reward zone silver member in a few days,but just incase id love to know.
Edit - thanks for the feedback everyone, i am definitely interested in getting the charge now. I had the evo befor the thunderbolt and it had the 512 ram and ran fine. So i dont see that as being an isssue
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I second everything said here except the physical buttons.
I also had a TB for almost 5 weeks. I enjoy the Charge more, but honestly the lack of ram is very noticeable.
Either way, this will be me phone until dual-core LTEs come out (excluding Moto Bionic).
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And i THIRD WHAT HE SAID.....LOL...I LOVE THIS PHONE, I ENDED UP GETTING THE THE CHARGING DOCK/EXTRA BATTERY COMBO ALSO, AND I COULD NOT BE MORE SATISFIED, NEED I NOT TELL YOU I HAD MY TBOLT SINCE MARCH 18TH AND I ENDED UP HAVING TO CALL *611 AND GET TO TIER 2 SUPPORT MANAGER, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CHARGE MY ACCOUNT FOR THE CHARGE AND THEY SENT ME A RETURN LABEL FOR AND EXCHANGE FOR THE TBOLT SO AS SOON AS THEY GET THE TBOLT BACK THEY CREDIT MY ACCOUNT, ONE TIME THING DUE TO ALL MY TBOLT CUSTOMER SUPPORT PROBLEMS.........HOPE I HELPED SOMEONE
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The charge has the greatest screen I've ever seen on a phone. The physical buttons (IMO) are better than capacative buttons. Touchwiz is not that bad(this is coming from an HTC user for the last 2 years that has had and loved sense on an evo 4g and touch pro2).
Give the charge a shot u should enjoy it more than a thunderbolt
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Do you recommend the Droid Charge?

So... I lost my DINC last week and I can pay Assurion 90 bucks for a replacement (probably used and probably one of the later models without the AMOLED screen) or... Verizon said I can get a new Droid Charge for 199. I've heard so much bad stuff about the Thunderbolt that I'm tempted to just go ahead and get the Droid Charge. I think the phone looks gorgeous, but I'm worried Samsung will be slow with the Android updates. I can live with that really.... I'm just wanting something that is fast, nice to look at and use and has good battery life. It also looks like the Charge has a nice useable camera in comparison to HTC phones. While, I might miss Sense.... I don't dislike the way the Charge looks.
Are you happy with yours? Any thoughts or extra info?
Get a charge i have both.
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About the updates. Because its a "Droid" phone the updates might be quicker. I would think if they didn't give good updates it wouldn't just hurt samsung but the droid line. because if someone hears the droid charge didn't get so and so update the normal person would think the whole line of droids is bad. I'm just guessing and if this doesn't make sense sorry I'm very tired
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Verizon rep told me gingerbread is coming by end of june. But they don't know **** so take it as you will
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i got the charge and after a week and a half, i went to a thunderbolt
pro:
-awesome looking screen, great for under the sun
-good camera quality
con:
-camera takes ages after taking a picture, to be ready to take another photo (2-5 seconds) I've missed multiple great photo ops in the week i owned the charge.
-rtf system lags, and the voodoo lagfix is a bandaid. even the animation of speedtest apk studders (when it's scanning for a server)
-4g reception is poor, average of 5mb/1mb. most places my wife's thunderbolt got 4g, the droid charge didn't(sitting at a restaurant, at the park etc.). additionally, since i got the thunderbolt, my 4g average has been 10mb/3mb
-randomly lost all signal and takes about 15-20 seconds for it to be restored
i would most likely never touch another samsung phone until they come out with another nexus
i also have both phones but prefer the thunderbolt ... sense is faster and smoother than touch wiz, the social integration, i think, is better, if that matters to you...also the browser seems to perform better and the keyboard (or any of the replacement ones) feels 'snappier' on the thunderbolt than the charge ... now the charge is really good in sunlight, as someone said, which can NOT be said for the thunderbolt ... big minus for the 'bolt, as i use my phone outdoors a lot!!
games seem to lag more (angry birds, etc.) on the charge and i've also already scratched the back of the charge in several places, inadvertently, and there are two little 'pits' in the screen of the charge
while there are plusses and minuses of both, i find myself using the 'bolt more as it's just all around, a much faster phone ... at least in my experiences.
Sounds to me like someone with a h**d-on towards Samsung. Obviously I only have a couple of weeks worth of experience with the Charge, I got it the day they released it a couple Saturdays ago. But I drive a truck so I am in and out of a lot of different 4G areas. I run speedtest.net as I am going through areas and I find the speeds on average to be well above what you are claiming here. Not only am I running the speed tests, they are being run on my laptop which is connected to the phone via wifi hotspot. Have I seen some 4-5dn/1-2up 4g speeds? Sure but I have also seen 21.6/8.5 in the greater Cincinnati area !! So far I have been able to test speeds in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus, OH, Cincinnati, Charlotte, NC. The vast majority of the time I am seeing speeds of between 10 & 15 mbps on the downstream with 12mbs being a fair average. Suprisingly enough, much of the time the upstream speeds are similar to the downstream!! From my experience, the ping times are 75ms on average with a high in the 110 range and low of about 65ms. This is real world testing in many different 4g areas ...
As for the Charge? I love it. I personally don't like the feel of the HTC Sense overlay. I know many love it and good for you!! Plus, the T-Bolt doesn't even come with Swype installed on it !! As stated, I am all over the place and I have never once had any type of issues with lack of signal. I am on the phone a heck of a lot during the course of my day and it has always been rock solid ...
I drive a truck also and I can agree with you. My Co-Driver has the Bolt and our 4G speeds are close most of the time. The Bolt does get better ping times sometimes, and it kicks the Charge's ass in a Quadrant test, but Im assuming that's due to more RAM. On another note, both of our phones were charged this morning and ATM mine is at 40% and his just died.
Another thing I really love about this phone is the media player. Its AWESOME! That was a really big issue for me, as I listen to alot of music and I like it loud. I've had the OG, DX, the Thunderbolt, and I still have an iPhone, and the media player on this phone kills all of the others. With the exception of the iPhone, the others don't get loud enough. The music clarity even trumps the iPhone and I have a $500 set of Shure headphones that I listen with.
My opinion is that the Charge is a great phone and even though the Thunderbolt is faster, its at the expense of poor battery life. Once the developers open this phone up though I think it is really gonna make a big difference. It may not be the fastest, but its well-rounded and will be a great phone to ensure you keep that Unlimited data plan, until something better comes along.
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Upgraded from my problematic Thunderbolt and no regrets. I love the Charge.
As everyone else before me replied, I also have both. I definitely prefer the Charge over the TB, but really it depends on the end user: you. Which do you like better? Which can you see yourself using for a while?
You can read over a thousand posts from people like us, and each will prefer one over the other. So take everyones replies with a grain of salt, including mine.
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I have the tbolt and my cousin has the charge. I think they are both great phones.
The charge has a better screen and battery life (out of the box) imo.
The tbolt I believe has better dev support atm, since the charge just came out. People complain about the battery of the tbolt, but im rooted with the extended battery, in 4g area and my battery lasts 1 1/2 days on moderate to heavy use.
I think the pros and cons to each are slim, it just depends on what you prefer. Go to the Verizon store and compare them both. I think you will be happy either way.
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Thank you for all your input!
I luckily had my lost DINC returned to me today, so I'm still going to go tomorrow and check out the Droid Charge and see if it begs me to take it home. Now, I just am not so desperate.
While I love everything about HTC phones, I think the display on the TB looks like crap. I got my DINC the day it came out before the amoled shortage and the switch to SLCD and that alone is the reason why I cried when I lost it. If the Thunderbolt got better battery life and had a nicer display, I'd def. go that route.... but until HTC brings an LTE phone to Verizon with a display as nice as the ones Samsung makes... I think I'm moving towards Samsung. I'm just trying to weigh the positives and negatives of going with the Charge now or seeing what else Samsung throws our way and when Verizon officially pulls the plug on unlimited data. (Not that I'm a data hog, but with 4G and all the great things that it can do, it seems pointless to be limited for something that doesn't cost them nearly as much as they are passing on to us.)
The Charge is the first "modern phone" I had in years. My previous was an HTC Windows Mobile at least 3 years old, maybe older than that. And before that were Palm phones.
I spent time debating between the Thunderbolt and the Charge and I really couldn't be happier I went with the Charge. I'm in NYC so I have 4G all the time pretty much. Speed tests as high as 25 mbps down and 10 up.
My deciding factor on the Charge vs. Thunderbolt was battery life. I can't imagine having to constantly keep a Thundebolt plugged in all day and 8 hours of life with average use was not acceptable to me at all. The Charge battery life I can live with. I just went 2 days without charging it with light use, and even under heavy use a nightly charge is all that is needed.
Unfortunately I took the OTA update as soon as I turned it on so hoping for a new rooting possibility so i can remove/freeze the bloatware but that would have been an issue with the thunderbolt too.
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Unfortunately I took the OTA update as soon as I turned it on so hoping for a new rooting possibility so i can remove/freeze the bloatware but that would have been an issue with the thunderbolt too.
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ed2 root has been out for awhile now. Easiest way is to install cwm and flash imnuts debloated, prerooted rom.

Purchasing a Sensation?

Hi, I'm planning on purchasing an HTC Sensation now that I've gotten rid of my iPhone 4.
I do have some issues regarding the purchase. I've seen threads commenting on dust collecting under screen and a poor battery life. Are these issues common on the phone? And if they are, is it possible to clean out the screen when the issue occurs? I've heard about a 1900mAh battery so I guess that's a better fix for the battery.
I'm on a T-Mobile family plan with no data plan. If I purchase an unlocked Sensation, will T-Mobile automatically add a data plan to my line? This happened to me when I used my iPhone 4 I got as a present on my AT&T line.
Thanks!
Not had my phone for all that long so I can't comment on the dust under the screen issue yet. But for battery life there are a few things that can be done, if you root your phone you can get SetCPU and underclock your phone when it's screen is off to extend the battery life or get Juice Defender, which disables wifi and data when the screen is off but turns them back on every 15 minutes to allow it to sync and will then turn them off again to save battery.
But even without a rooted phone, although the battery life certainly isn't good it will just about get you through a long day. But obviously you can also get a 19000mAh battery or even a further extended one as well as an external battery that can charge your phone up providing you don't mind carrying one around.
Also, can the Sensation play flash videos natively? I've heard some mixed claims regarding that.
I have had the Sensation for quite some time now and I don't have one spec of dust under my screen. And battery life is good. It last me through the day but I bought the Anker 1900mAh battery because it is so cheap and so amazing lol.
I would recommend the Sensation to anyone.
Anker 10,000 maH battery......
I purchased the Anker 10,000 maH battery. I had to...... I use my phone all day long. So I really don't turn on my main computer everyday. Especially since I installed a terminal emulator on my Sense. Now I can correct code, and scripts on the fly. I can re-charge my phone 5 times with this brick. Fits in my shirt pocket, and it takes an hour from 10% battery to 100%. Not bad.....
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I purchased the Anker 10,000 maH battery. I had to...... I use my phone all day long. So I really don't turn on my main computer everyday. Especially since I installed a terminal emulator on my Sense. Now I can correct code, and scripts on the fly. I can re-charge my phone 5 times with this brick. Fits in my shirt pocket, and it takes an hour from 10% battery to 100%. Not bad.....
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wow,
douche early?
to the op. just swap out the sim card and dont change a thing.. you will be fine.
picked up mine slightly used. no issues.. am running the 1900 battery.
great phone..
beers
I have an XE, great screen, no dust and good battery life.
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Dust under the screen is a common issue, but it's only a lot more common than it should be - the number of Sensations affected is still a very low amount. The safest way to take care of it is to go through T-Mo or HTC and they'll clean it out. Trying to do it yourself will definitely void the warranty cause you'll have to dismantle the phone.
Battery can be terrible, but a chichitec, anker, or mugen 1900mAh battery along with a good rom/kernel/clockspeed combo fixes that. I'm on Android HD 3.x gingerbread with the stock kernel, clocked at 1.5Ghz when the screen is on, 768Mhz when it's off, heavy user and I can make it through the day. The other thing to consider is how you use the phone. The Super-LCD looks crazy crisp, and it is, sunlight visibility is great and color reproduction is nice - although it's no SAMOLED. Here's the problem though, it's a mega power drainer. If you listen to a lot of music on your phone or maybe stream Pandora comedy, you shouldn't have any issues. If you're an all-day facebooker or constantly texting/emailing, that screen will destroy your battery and I couldn't recommend the phone, as much as I love it Don't get me wrong, you could do it, but you'll probably need a spare battery or a charger with you.
With the 1900mAh battery, I can have the screen on constantly and texting/emailing/browsing for about 3 hours straight. If I keep the screen on and play games, 2 and a half hours. Not much difference even though one is a lot more intensive than the other. The S-LCD panel is a huge battery drain.
I haven't had any problems with dust under the screen.
Battery life great for the amount of time i use the phone everyday (screenshot attached).
If you're up for it i'd suggest you flash a custom ROM to use the full potential of the phone. Personally i like Android Revolution HD, but it's all down to personal preference. Try a few different ones and use what you like the most.
Hi guys!
First things first:
Happy New Year to everyone!
I'm thinking of an upgrade (from HTC Vision & iPhone 4S) and looking at Sensation as an option and I've got a few questions regarding that.
My main concern is it not to late to jump to a Sensation? are there good developers still around? I remember RMK jumped from G2 to sensation, and he's still here, how about others? Any rumors or plans to abandon Sensation? I'd imagine alot of them getting the new GN, I can't really be bothered, rather have an option between Sense and AOSP.
My other question would be is the hardware acceleration fully functional on current ICS roms?
slovoflud said:
My other question would be is the hardware acceleration fully functional on current ICS roms?
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I'm running RVHD 5.02 and its still running at 1.2 GHz.. I haven't figured out why. I'm running super tuner, and setcpu. It's running quick, but not at the advertised speed.
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I'm running RVHD 5.02 and its still running at 1.2 GHz.. I haven't figured out why. I'm running super tuner, and setcpu. It's running quick, but not at the advertised speed.
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uh, sorry I wasn't clear enough - I meant Video acceleration
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uh, sorry I wasn't clear enough - I meant Video acceleration
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It's "there" but it doesn't run very well. Barely feels like its on. Just wait a month or two, and stable ICS will be released.
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It's "there" but it doesn't run very well. Barely feels like its on. Just wait a month or two, and stable ICS will be released.
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thanks!
what abouts this?
any thoughts?
My main concern is it not to late to jump to a Sensation? are there good developers still around?
Despite having GNexus I would recommend the HTC Sensation. Had it before gnex and it's very good phone. Had two small issues :
1) battery under heavy use drain fast - bigger battery recommended.
2) random ringtone/notification change (this could be related to 2.08.401.1 ROM, which isn't officially released, but is a test ROM).
Other than this is VERY good device and won't let you down.
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Despite having GNexus I would recommend the HTC Sensation. Had it before gnex and it's very good phone. Had two small issues :
1) battery under heavy use drain fast - bigger battery recommended.
2) random ringtone/notification change (this could be related to 2.08.401.1 ROM, which isn't officially released, but is a test ROM).
Other than this is VERY good device and won't let you down.
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Thanks!
on a side note, what's so disappointing with GNexus?
slovoflud said:
Thanks!
on a side note, what's so disappointing with GNexus?
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Disappointing? Nothing . Only issue I had, was the "volume ghost", but after flashing 4.0.2 all OK. It's different device and as I was hard addict to Sense, I'm surprised how quickly get used to GNex. Love it
i have no dust on my screen yet. i buy it 3 month ago.
ps:i come from China.hah
The dust problem is annoying, but it's no problem to get a new phone when the first one has dust under the screen. The Akku is okey for one day full use, when you load it every night. When you need better akku there are good ones with 1900mAh, on Amazon Germany for example the one by Anker.
Thanks for the input everybody!
Regarding the data plan. I currently have a family plan with no data. When I purchase my Sensation on ebay or any other auction site, and then use my T-Mobile sim, will I automatically be added a data plan?

Battery life S3 vs RAZR Maxx vs Rezound

I had the Rezound for about a year and finally could not take the battery life. I guess I'm a heavy user as I would get maybe 6-8 hours. I picked up a RAZR Maxx about a week ago and obviously the battery life is way better. I'm getting 1-1.5 days.
I'm considering switching to the S3 but want to have an idea of battery life as this is a top priority for me. I'm assuming it somewhere in between the Rezound and RM.
Any real world experience with all 3 devices?
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My wife has the Maxx and I have the 32 gig sgs 3. Now we both live in an area with crappy reception, she gets maybe five more hours than I do. My sgs 3 is stock rooted, unlocked and I can get a full day use out of it with moderate use. The sgs3 is better than the rezound for batt life, but neither will compete with the battery life of the maxx. For technology and features the sgs3 is the best of the three hands down.
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If battery life is all you care about this phone is not for you.
I'd wait on the razor maxx there's a new version coming out really soon.
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Battery is #1 but not the only thing. The speaker on my Maxx sucks, and reception is worse than the Rezound (Rezound was very good with reception).
So I would say my properties are :
1) battery
2) reception
3) sound (speaker and headset)
4) system performance
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Fwiw, I live in a 4G area with pretty good reception. My Rezound picked up 4G pretty well in the house. My Maxx usually is on 3g.
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Battery is #1 but not the only thing. The speaker on my Maxx sucks, and reception is worse than the Rezound (Rezound was very good with reception).
So I would say my properties are :
1) battery
2) reception
3) sound (speaker and headset)
4) system performance
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If batterylife is a big deal you could always get a extended battery (i think they have 3rd party nfc ones now) or buy the Samsung dock that come with a secondary battery and a spot to charge it.
the battery life is fine for most. i get 10-12 hrs of heavy useage(6-7hrs screen on). 20-26hrs light/ moderate useage(2.5-4hrs screen on)
im normally see -90/ -107db signal range on LTE
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the battery life is fine for most. i get 10-12 hrs of heavy useage(6-7hrs screen on). 20-26hrs light/ moderate useage(2.5-4hrs screen on)
im normally see -90/ -107db signal range on LTE
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With standard battery? That's pretty good IMO.
Are there good extended batteries that only add a reasonable amount of bulk? The Rezound extended battery is MASSIVE. So big I couldn't use it.
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With standard battery? That's pretty good IMO.
Are there good extended batteries that only add a reasonable amount of bulk? The Rezound extended battery is MASSIVE. So big I couldn't use it.
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yes stock battery...also i use dark themes and wall papers, minimal widgets, no overclock, disabled most apps on start up, heavily debloated. little things like these make a huge difference.
Today I went 14 hours unplugged all on 4G with 2 hours on screen time and was at 50% battery. That is pretty awesome for a device like this if you ask me.
Someone needs to tell me how to get this battery life. Lol
Ya, I am in the same boat. Stock, with only rooting and unlocking, I am not getting anywhere near the times these guys are getting. I turned on all the battery saving tricks I could find, no dice!
I turned on the battery percentage thing next to the meter, and simple web browsing was destroying my battery in real time, to where I could see a 10% drop in about 15-20 min. Unacceptable, to the point I think I am going to try to exchange the phone this weekend. Luckily I carry an external battery pack so I am good... for now. LOL!
Man, sounds like times are all over the place. Doesn't really surprise me though since radio reception, user installed apps, and other things can have a huge impact.
I got a great deal switching from Rezound to Maxx (basically an even swap once I sold my accessories on ebay). Now I have a guy wanting to trade me his almost new s3 for my Maxx + $80. I don't think I can wrong with that deal.
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Man, sounds like times are all over the place. Doesn't really surprise me though since radio reception, user installed apps, and other things can have a huge impact.
I got a great deal switching from Rezound to Maxx (basically an even swap once I sold my accessories on ebay). Now I have a guy wanting to trade me his almost new s3 for my Maxx + $80. I don't think I can wrong with that deal.
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I actually went from the maxx to this myself a couple weeks ago and couldn't be happier! Battery life isn't as good of course, but is still great. Root it and get a custom kernel on it ( something the RAZR can't do) and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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nice post i love this post thanks
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Ya, I am in the same boat. Stock, with only rooting and unlocking, I am not getting anywhere near the times these guys are getting. I turned on all the battery saving tricks I could find, no dice!
I turned on the battery percentage thing next to the meter, and simple web browsing was destroying my battery in real time, to where I could see a 10% drop in about 15-20 min. Unacceptable, to the point I think I am going to try to exchange the phone this weekend. Luckily I carry an external battery pack so I am good... for now. LOL!
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I am in a good 4G area all throughout the day. I do not turn any data or syncing off. I have it all on including GPS. I turn off wifi when I leave my house and I do not use Bluetooth. I have my backlight set on auto. In the 2 hours of my device use I woud say 1.5 hour of that was web surfing. I use the stock browser.
What I do turn off is all the motion options as well as the screens smart stay feature. To me, this has to be using some battery. How much I do not know but it is not anything I really need.
Besides that I do absolutely nothing special to the device and have no battery saving crap which usually uses more battery then saves it. lol
Also, if you are using 10% battery in 20 minutes you should see at least 3.5 hours of on screen time at the end of the day so I would not say that is bad. Now the question is are you in a good signal area? Are you on 4G or 3G? Do you have all the motion tweaks on or off? I do not think it is an issue with your device and exchanging it will probably not yield different results.
S3 battery is pretty dam good if you ask me
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The way I use my phone(I am constantly streaming iheart radio, sirius online or SlingBox), I could never make it through a long work day with any phone stock battery except of course the RAZR MAXX. I had an extended battery on my Rezound.
I condidered the MAXX, but every time I look at the screen on a MAXX (my son bought one), I want to punch a baby.
I now use my G3 with the 4000+ Hyperion battery which is impossible to kill. I leave my screen timeout set to 'never turn off' as I have never even come close to killing the battery with the setup in my sig. That battery lasted for a week and a half when I put it in airplane mode for most of a trip out of the country lately.
Sure, it makes it heavier but I actually like that. It gives me a better grip on the phone especially with the matching Hyperion tpu case.
Go for the S3, Razrs are trash.
Why Link to video will show why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=autoplay&list=PL2300D16ED478C0F3&playnext=8
There is much more about this phone that pissed me off, but it was all over the place and needed to be "nuked" every month or 2 weeks. The softwere made me want to take a ak-47 to "test" the "cool" back to see if it can take a 7.62mm round to the "face". LOL
Verizon did make it right, but it took alot of push and fact checking to get them to swap phones. (Droid RAZR to S3)

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