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With AT&T you can simply throw a sim card in and away you go with any phone you want. What do you do on AT&T namely if you have an iPhone and TBolt?
You wont be able to do it without going through Verizon to have your TB Sim card reset everytime you want to use your TB after using your iPhone.
Normally you just have to do a simple ESN swap (can do online). Unfortunately with the Thunderbolt and it's LTE SIM, things might be more complicated. I'd check with a Verizon rep to see what would be involved.
Sadly its a complete pain in the butt. One of the guys I work with had to deactivate it and reactivate it a couple of days later. The guy in the store couldn't figure out how to do it, and it took him about 3 hours on the phone with various techs to finally get it working. They ended up having to swap out the SIM card in the store.
Not sure if its the process that is tough, or if they just don't know what they are doing. Either way, I wouldn't recommend it if you can avoid it. If you really need to do it, it is possible, but its not as simple as just swapping out a SIM card like on AT&T.
Once there are more phones utilizing LTE wouldn't you just be able to swap out your sim card and put it in any LTE phone?
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Once there are more phones utilizing LTE wouldn't you just be able to swap out your sim card and put it in any LTE phone?
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
Thats pretty sweet, I wish I had the cash to drop on some more LTE phones when they come out.
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
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Are you sure about that? I thought we were still using CDMA for calls and there is no voice over 4G/LTE on VZW just yet.
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
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Pretty sure this is wrong.
When setting up my phone the rep had to set up the sim card and phone separately.
Razorz is right, we still utilize cdma for voice, so it may be possible to get data on a new phone but no voice?
A rep told me you could, never tried I don't have another Verizon phone to swap it out with. Also ATT charges activation when you swap sims "if the sim is in a different phone for a lengthy time". Also ATT will add a data plan to your account if the phone you put it in requires one.
the id number for the sim card and the ESN for the phone both must be in the verizon system associated with your phone number or the device will not work.
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Sadly its a complete pain in the butt. One of the guys I work with had to deactivate it and reactivate it a couple of days later. The guy in the store couldn't figure out how to do it, and it took him about 3 hours on the phone with various techs to finally get it working. They ended up having to swap out the SIM card in the store.
Not sure if its the process that is tough, or if they just don't know what they are doing. Either way, I wouldn't recommend it if you can avoid it. If you really need to do it, it is possible, but its not as simple as just swapping out a SIM card like on AT&T.
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they didn't know what they were doing.
When I had data problems with my TB, I switched to my INC via the activate phone link on the "my account" web page. An hour later when I tried to return to the TB, I got a prompt for the phone's IMEI, then prompted for the SIM card's number.. It error-ed. After calling CS, the rep couldn't help, got TS on the line, they manually entered the SIM number to make it work...
So it appears switching away from the TB deactivated the SIM, to switch back, VZW's TS had to re-add or re-activate the SIM.
And as thetwiztidfreak said, they did need BOTH the IMEI and SIM numbers to re-activate the TB.
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the id number for the sim card and the ESN for the phone both must be in the verizon system associated with your phone number or the device will not work.
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Correct but when you put the registered SIM in another LTE device it registers that handsets IMEI with your account. You can infact do a SIM swap with LTE, since your phone number is tied to the SIM putting the sim in another device effectively activates the phone on your account.
I should know, it's my job ;-)
It works the same way as GSM, but going from an LTE phone to a CDMA phone is a bit different, the SIM gets decactivated and becomes useless and if you want to switch back you need to go the a Verizon store for them to sell you out a new SIM for $0(some times old SIMs can be reactivated however there may b e issues with this). It's a PITA so I don't reccomend switching back and forth between CDMA and LTE devices unless you absolutely HAVE to.
chaoscentral said:
Correct but when you put the registered SIM in another LTE device it registers that handsets IMEI with your account. You can infact do a SIM swap with LTE, since your phone number is tied to the SIM putting the sim in another device effectively activates the phone on your account.
I should know, it's my job ;-)
It works the same way as GSM, but going from an LTE phone to a CDMA phone is a bit different, the SIM gets decactivated and becomes useless and if you want to switch back you need to go the a Verizon store for them to sell you out a new SIM for $0(some times old SIMs can be reactivated however there may b e issues with this). It's a PITA so I don't reccomend switching back and forth between CDMA and LTE devices unless you absolutely HAVE to.
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I can confirm that it is a royal pain in the ass to go to the vzw store to get a new sim...
I just got a replacement for my tbolt. I had 5 days to return the "defective" one. I bounced the SIM card back and forth between the two phones a dozen times trying to see which one got better 3G/4G reception. The rep told me to decide which one works better and send the other phone back. It didn't matter.
This hasn't been mentioned anywhere, so I am starting to think I am the first person to do this.
Anyway, the lack of keyboard on the 'bolt has been driving me nuts to the point that I jumped on the Startosphere last Thursday. (Great phone btw, may not be fastest on the block, but the keyboard is awesome and it is smooth out of the box)
When we activated the phone, I had to get a new SIM card... a MicroSIM in fact. All 4G verizon phones are going to use it from now on instead of the bigger ones that our phones came with.
Since the Stratosphere is locked down still and my 'bolt is full of Cyanogen goodness, I wanted to figure out a way to use both without needing new SIM cards for each swap. So, I found out that there are MicroSIM to SIM adapters on the interwebs, like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160660811119
Some sites said that these MicroSIM cards are not compatible with the full-size SIM card phones. I wanted to come here and say that those sites are full of crap. Using the adapter linked above, I put that MicroSIM card in my 'bolt and it comes back to life. Everything works like it should, too.
Since every 4G LTE phone is going to this, if anyone upgrades and wants to go back to messin' with their 'bolt, they can using this adapter.
Hope someone else finds this useful.
How exactly did you get it to work? If you have the Stratosphere activated on your VZW account, how do you switch to the Thunderbolt?
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How exactly did you get it to work? If you have the Stratosphere activated on your VZW account, how do you switch to the Thunderbolt?
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i am wondering the same to, as when you switch phones it requires the whole 'activate / deactivate' b.s.
No it doesn't. Swap sim, and its done.
hmm.. figured it would be programmed specifically to that device... although i haven't gone from one 4g-lte based phone to another(not directly anyway). i suppose i will give it a try when i get a new phone.
welcome to the joys of SIM cards...however I do wonder about the PRL updating, before you could just dial *228 to get it, now will it be just OTAed to us?
228 doesn't work on 4G devices. PRL gets pushed.
Swap sim from one Thunderbolt to another:
"Your phone is not registered"
I have a iPhone 4 now and am eligible for an upgrade...would like get a one x but don't want to carry it to work..(firefighter)..
Would I be able to switch sims back and forth without any issues...?
Same Scenario
I am also an AT&T customer who had the iphone 4 and switched to the HTC One X. I can confirm that switching the SIM card from one phone to the other allows each device to work just fine. No worries here (I was thinking about this question as well before making the decision to upgrade). Hope this helps!
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I am also an AT&T customer who had the iphone 4 and switched to the HTC One X. I can confirm that switching the SIM card from one phone to the other allows each device to work just fine. No worries here (I was thinking about this question as well before making the decision to upgrade). Hope this helps!
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Sorry to be nit-picky, but are you switching from your HOX sim card to your iPhone? Or vice versa. Thank you.
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I am also an AT&T customer who had the iphone 4 and switched to the HTC One X. I can confirm that switching the SIM card from one phone to the other allows each device to work just fine. No worries here (I was thinking about this question as well before making the decision to upgrade). Hope this helps!
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That's exactly what I needed to know....Thanks!!!
Would you still be able to use data if you did that. You can only have one or the other right? (IPhone or smartphone data plan)
Functional data, voice, and text
Nitpicking is fine with me. I received my HOX in the mail initially and used the SIM card out of my iphone 4. With the iphone's SIM card in the HOX I was able to utilize data, voice and text on the new handset. I then went to the AT&T store and was told that my old sim (iphone 4) needed to be re-calibrated in order to take advantage of 4G and LTE network speeds. I received a new SIM card from them and, upon testing it in my iphone, found that I am still able to connect and utilize the 3G network (as well as voice and text services). So, to sum up:
Your old iphone 4 SIM card will work interchangeably in both devices but you will be limited to 3G speeds
A new SIM card will allow for 4G and LTE connectivity in the HOX but still be functional at 3G speeds in the iphone 4
Thank you very much! That's exactly what I wanted to know.
When I went to bestbuy mobile they tried to provision an iPhone microSIM and the system would not allow it. They could only provision one of the new LTE capable micro sims to work with the phone. Good to know it's backwards compatible with 3G. Only thing that sucks is all of my other phones use standard size sims.
If u put iPhone sim in one X then u won't get lte speeds, only 4g...if other way around then lte on one X and 4g on one X..unless the 4s has lte but I don't think it does..I quit iPhone when 4s came out...best decision ever...I will say that sim cards are not made to be taken in/out with the kind of frequency u are talking about...could cause issues after a while..
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I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
Thanks.
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I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
Thanks.
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The way verizon works, I think the sim is sort of tied to the account. You still need to have the ESN on your account as verizon is not purely sim based. Therefore, I do not think you can switch sims, and if you do you MIGHT get purely LTE service, but no cdma.
You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
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You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
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Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
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Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
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Nope I never had to call. I even noticed that it changed my phone on the My Verizon website which was neat.
You shouldn't have any issues and no you don't have to call. I have a micro sim cut to a nano and I switch it between my M7 and 5S every now and then. If I plan on switching between my 5S and M8 it'll be easier since they both use nano.
I'm using my nano Sim from my 5s in my new M8 now. Didn't call VZW, did nothing on line, just popped it out of the iPhone and into the One.
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Assuming you're switching between devices that have like provisioning(which the two phones will) you will for sure be fine, no need to call. The devices will check in with the platform when they first boot up and the device ID on the account will change on it's own after a short while without you needing to do anything.
Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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They did as soon as they switched to 4g sim cards.
As long as devices you swap between are 4g I haven't had an issue. The problem is when you go from 4g to 3g back in the gnex to iPhone 4s days. Every time you did that you'd burn a sim card on Verizon.
Now iI can swap from my m8 to my iPhone 5 with a quick sim swap.
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
Burned??
What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
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Well I'm adding a new line, so they'll have to activate it on the new line. Then I plan to throw my sim from my 5s in the M8. Was just curious if the one from the M8 *would* work in the 5s, in case I decided to get a new SIM before I swap (since I know once I throw a dumb phone on the new line, the SIM from the M8 will be toast).
I'll just use my 5s one, since it seems the easiest. I hate going to Verizon so I just wanna be in and out
You won't lose NFC capability when swapping SIMs. NFC is part of the phone's hardware. What you will lose is ISIS capability, since that relies on the SIM.
You can use Google wallet just when swapping SIMs.
I modified my micro sim from the DNA and it works perfectly. The ISIS loss isn't a problem for me, as google wallet works.
Icyman said:
What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
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As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
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Yes. you are correct. I did experience that once when going from iphone 4 to my Rezound but once you go 4g you never go back. It's un-explainable.
I activated the nano SIM that came with the M8 and put it straight into an adapter and into my S4 (I haven't got the chance to copy files and settings over to the HTC yet so I'm still using the S4 as my phone for now) and my S4's running fine on it!
So in answer to the OP's question, just activate the new SIM and you can use that in both your iPhone and HTC (then the current SIM you have is useless). You shouldn't have any issues switching back and forth.
there's adapters on amazon to take your new nano sim and put it in phones that require a micro sim or other size. But i switch between my phones all the time and all it takes is putting in your current SIM card
Hi. Has anyone heard about Visible Wireless (https://www.bevisible.com/)? I was wondering if any body has tried activating the account on an iPhone and then move the SIM card over to your Android? I have a feeling the iPhone restrictions are just for THEIR OWN ease of support and there is really no restriction put on in the back-end and this switch would work.
I have opened an account with Visible and will find out when the SIM card arrive.
If you've tried it and it didn't work, please let me know so I can go ahead and cancel the order.
Thanks.
Have you gotten the Sim yet? Did everything work ok?
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Hi. Has anyone heard about Visible Wireless (https://www.bevisible.com/)? I was wondering if any body has tried activating the account on an iPhone and then move the SIM card over to your Android? I have a feeling the iPhone restrictions are just for THEIR OWN ease of support and there is really no restriction put on in the back-end and this switch would work.
I have opened an account with Visible and will find out when the SIM card arrive.
If you've tried it and it didn't work, please let me know so I can go ahead and cancel the order.
Thanks.
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So, what happened?
Hi All... The SIM card arrived and I tried to work with VisibleWireless people via text and phone for OVER 3 WEEKS but was NOT able to activate the SIM card data portion on my iPhone 6. I can make phone calls on my iPhone but NO DATA! Switching the SIM over to an Android phone will let me make phone calls but since there's NO DATA service, there's no point. They finally gave me a refund and I canceled the account. This company IS A JOKE!
Voice Calls vs VOLTE
Hi. Has anyone heard about Visible Wireless
I was wondering if any body has tried activating the account on an iPhone and then move the SIM card over to your Android? I have a feeling the iPhone restrictions are just for THEIR OWN ease of support and there is really no restriction put on in the back-end and this switch would work.
I have opened an account with Visible and will find out when the SIM card arrive.
If you've tried it and it didn't work, please let me know so I can go ahead and cancel the order.
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If your iphone is not compatible with VOLTE?
I have had visible for 2 months and it works as advertised.
WiFi calling is now working on S9
I love Visible. It's working like a dream so far.
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I love Visible. It's working like a dream so far.
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I am also using it on an S9 and if you understand it ONLY works on verizon and there is no roaming you will do fine.
As an aside, I am trying to change the SIM Pin and require it at boot as an additional way to secure the phone. Visible will not, or cannot provide the default SIM Pin. Anyone know what it is?
I'm sorry. I don't.