[Q] WMP Lossless Audio-->Zune-->WP7 - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Here is my problem: I am trying to add some WAV files(lossless audio setting) to Zune via a direct copy of the files from an SD card to my PC. The audio files are from a CD that I own and ripped in that particular format. I have instructed Zune to look to a specific folder on the PC for music(the one that contains all of my audio files I would like to transfer to my WP7 device). Zune doesn't see these newly added files(older music files are there as well) and I am at a dead end in what to do to get them onto my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated. FYI-when I try to "Play with Zune" from a right click on the mouse, they won't play in Zune. When I try the same thing with WMP, it plays in WMP...go figure! I would just love to be able to drag and drop to add files to my Focus! Help?!

lewiedude said:
Here is my problem: I am trying to add some WAV files(lossless audio setting) to Zune via a direct copy of the files from an SD card to my PC. The audio files are from a CD that I own and ripped in that particular format. I have instructed Zune to look to a specific folder on the PC for music(the one that contains all of my audio files I would like to transfer to my WP7 device). Zune doesn't see these newly added files(older music files are there as well) and I am at a dead end in what to do to get them onto my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated. FYI-when I try to "Play with Zune" from a right click on the mouse, they won't play in Zune. When I try the same thing with WMP, it plays in WMP...go figure! I would just love to be able to drag and drop to add files to my Focus! Help?!
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I would say, Zune doesn't support .wav extension. I recommend to convert it to .mp4 or .wma. Recommend to use some pro editor like Goldwave. Depend on you, but yeah, Zune does not support .wav

I just figured that out after staring at the file association page in the Zune setting. They need to support their own files!
Sent from my mango'ed Focus using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Not a completely bad thing. WMA lossless does sound pretty darn good, sadly though I don't think any "Phone" has the sound processing to let the files sound their best. If you want some damn good audio quality, the Zune HD was pretty much king as far as a SMP.

Hi
I learnt that Mango supports the wma lossless as mentioned in the thread below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221284&highlight=lossless
Is that true? Anyone tried?
My act was to drag converted wma lossless with mass storage enabler before mango. However the prob was the tags were wiped off
Would be great if Zune 4.8 supports wma ll

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Transferring Music to TP

Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
dr g said:
How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.
10332007 said:
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?
When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?
WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.
Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!

[Q] Zune software not recognizing all MP3 files?

Hi guys. I am running the Zune software but it will not recognize the MP3s that are above 128kbps MP3 quality. What do I do? Most of my music files are between 192 - 320 kbps. Anyway to fix the software or at least move the files onto my phone other than the Zune software.
JukEboXAuDiO said:
Hi guys. I am running the Zune software but it will not recognize the MP3s that are above 128kbps MP3 quality. What do I do? Most of my music files are between 192 - 320 kbps. Anyway to fix the software or at least move the files onto my phone other than the Zune software.
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I had a very similar problem to this earlier today, what fixed it for me, was instead of letting the Zune software find all my music automatically, I dragged the entire my music folder directly onto the zune software, amazingly it found all of my files then.
Dragged it into what part of the Zune? I have tried dragging and I am not sure where to drag it into.
i never had any problem with any mp3 file
i keep em in an extra folder
added the folder to the zune libary in settings....
from time update the information with zune social tagger

[Q] Any video player app which can handle majority formats for WP7

Hi,
I searched everywhere, either I did it wrong way or there is isn't any available.
A video player for avi/divx/mkv/mp4 formats with majority codecs supported?
Examples:
GoodPlayer for iPhone
DicePlayer for Android
Hope I have posted in the right section..
This is built into to Windows phone you just drag whatever format movie into your Zune then sync with device and bam it plays.
Laquox said:
This is built into to Windows phone you just drag whatever format movie into your Zune then sync with device and bam it plays.
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Agreed, but some media files zune will not add.
For Example:
AVI file with Xvid+AC3 = Zune says 'media type not valid'
MKV file = Zune will not allow to even drag drop this extension
So no option but to convert. Any one??
Even when you drag "compatible" video formats to the phone, Zune STILL converts them, so you may as well do it anyway.
FloatingFatMan said:
Even when you drag "compatible" video formats to the phone, Zune STILL converts them, so you may as well do it anyway.
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Thats what I don't want to do. Atleast for directly playable files.
Please suggest if there is any app vailable.
Not at this moment..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7
that's the only thing i hate on wobdoes phone and the omnia 7. such a big screen and powerfull hardware, but most of my videos won't play. indeed most files are .avi coded with xvid/divx, and most files with higher resolution are .mkv.
even crappy bada phones play those files without any problems.
Big question here: Is it even possible that someone develops a videoplayer like moboplayer on android? or doesn't ms allow other media player or isn't there any access to necesarry api's? And if the published such videoplayer, how would we get these video files on our phones without itunes trying to convert them?
On itunes there was a possibility with vlc player until it had to be removed.

[Q] Buy Music on WP7, have on PC later?

Hello,
I have bought Music from Zune before, but I did so using the Zune Software on the PC. There you get an MP3 file and you can of course do what you want with it including syncing it to a WP7.
I am also aware that you cannot redownload DRM free MP3s so you have to keep your copy safe.
How does this work when you buy Music directly on the phone?
Is there any way to get the files on your PC later so that you can play them on the PC? Does the Zune software allow you to copy music from your phone to your PC?
If so, does this affect the quality? I belive that Zune offer 320kbps files, will those files be downloaded to my phone?
You can simply plugin your device into your PC and sync the music you downloaded with it with Zune. Dunno if it happens automatically, but you can simply right click the file and then choose "copy to my collection". I have two files here that I downloaded directly with the device and then synched it to my PC. Both have a 256kBit bitrate.
U can also use WiFi sync by enabling it in the options in Zune.
Unfortunately, Zune suffers from the same memory leak that plagued WMP, my advice is make CD copies of your music. A plus is when I download from Zune, a copy automatically goes to Windows Media Player on the PC.
Sent from The ACSyndicate Tower using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Thanks it worked as expected and there was no quality change (320kbps on PC).

[GUIDE] Turn tunein radio recordings into mp3's

So it has annoyed my for a long time that i couldn't take the recordings from tune in radio and listen/transfer them to my pc/mp3 player. this is a step by step guide on how to do it.
*important* make sure you know what format you made the recordings in (mp3/aac). just look on the right hand side of the track progress bar while recording live (see screenshot below) in this example it is recorded in aac. tune in will automatically record in mp3 format usually.
so, once you have the recording saved, connect your phone to pc via usb. navigate to your tunein folder, usually mnt/sdcard/tunein. find the recording you want to listen to/copy, it will look something like this; 20111131-074437. copy it over to your pc.
now, just add .aac or .mp3 to your file name. (.aac or .mp3 depending on what it was recorded as)
good? done! that's it. you now have your tunein recording as a readable file on your pc. if you want to remove ads/tracks in the recording, use an audio editor to do so. i use this; http://www.nch.com.au/splitter/index.html
it should be noted that for recordings 50mb+ it can be hit or miss with this method. so try to keep your recordings below about 2 hours long...
Need update
This method no longer works. Is there an updated process for exporting the recordings?
Hello ,
I am using Tunein for my Samsung Galaxy S2 (Android Ice Cream) and i am very happy with it .
I tryed to use the Recording for an Interview of mine.
In my screen (when the station played) i saw the *wma format.
Was exactly the same like ur attached pictured but with the wma as the format .
Recording it and i hearing it from my phone was fine.
Later i tryed to copy it and played in my PC.
I was very sad when i realized that i couldn't hear it or even opened it .
The recorded File didnt had any extation , so when i copyed to the Pc, could not recognized what program to use in order to play it.
Looking in the internet i saw several technik's but with No results . I also downloaded some wma convertes .
The problem is that Windows can not recognize the file .
When i simple change the extension to *wma (as u say in ur Post) again didnt worked.
PLz Help me ,
how i could play the file ( of my Radio Interview) in my PC and use-convert it as a common for exaple *mp3 file .
Tnk you .
I wish you a Happy New YEAR 2013
sprsk said:
Hello ,
I am using Tunein for my Samsung Galaxy S2 (Android Ice Cream) and i am very happy with it .
I tryed to use the Recording for an Interview of mine.
In my screen (when the station played) i saw the *wma format.
Was exactly the same like ur attached pictured but with the wma as the format .
Recording it and i hearing it from my phone was fine.
Later i tryed to copy it and played in my PC.
I was very sad when i realized that i couldn't hear it or even opened it .
The recorded File didnt had any extation , so when i copyed to the Pc, could not recognized what program to use in order to play it.
Looking in the internet i saw several technik's but with No results . I also downloaded some wma convertes .
The problem is that Windows can not recognize the file .
When i simple change the extension to *wma (as u say in ur Post) again didnt worked.
PLz Help me ,
how i could play the file ( of my Radio Interview) in my PC and use-convert it as a common for exaple *mp3 file .
Tnk you .
I wish you a Happy New YEAR 2013
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If it was streamed in wma format then thats what you have to save it as. Now, on PC vlc player can play wma files, if it doesn't for you then try installing the k-lite codec pack. that should take care of it.
I have same issue. Just recorded some radio (.aac) to test on nexus 7 using tune in pro. Changed name to.aac format and can not play back on nexus.
tucker61 said:
I have same issue. Just recorded some radio (.aac) to test on nexus 7 using tune in pro. Changed name to.aac format and can not play back on nexus.
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Just download vlc player app from play store. It supports and plays the files once you rename them.
kemmo123 said:
So it has annoyed my for a long time that i couldn't take the recordings from tune in radio and listen/transfer them to my pc/mp3 player. this is a step by step guide on how to do it.
*important* make sure you know what format you made the recordings in (mp3/aac). just look on the right hand side of the track progress bar while recording live (see screenshot below) in this example it is recorded in aac. tune in will automatically record in mp3 format usually.
so, once you have the recording saved, connect your phone to pc via usb. navigate to your tunein folder, usually mnt/sdcard/tunein. find the recording you want to listen to/copy, it will look something like this; 20111131-074437. copy it over to your pc.
now, just add .aac or .mp3 to your file name. (.aac or .mp3 depending on what it was recorded as)
good? done! that's it. you now have your tunein recording as a readable file on your pc. if you want to remove ads/tracks in the recording, use an audio editor to do so. i use this; http://www.nch.com.au/splitter/index.html
it should be noted that for recordings 50mb+ it can be hit or miss with this method. so try to keep your recordings below about 2 hours long...
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YES it works!! thank you for sharing this info, I just checked out my favorite radio station and noticed they do them in mp3 so I tried changing the files to mp3 on my computer and they played rite away.
kemmo123 said:
take the recordings from tune in radio and listen/transfer them to my pc/mp3 player. ... just add .aac or .mp3 to your file name.
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I tried this a year or so ago, and it failed - I used Windows Media Player, and Cool Edit Pro. Upon seeing your suggestion I tried it again, but with Audacity. So far, it works on the first few files. Will it work on the remainder? I hope so. Oh, The Hope of Audacity
HOW TO Play TuneIn Radio Recordings
TuneIn Radio Pro makes recordings in whatever format (MP3, AAC, WMA, etc) a source streams in,
but does not create legal container files, making recordings (deliberately) hard to play outside of TuneIn.
To determine the format of a given source, start a manual recording and note the format shown on the TuneIn screen.
To play a recording, copy the file from the TuneIn folder on the device to a computer,
and then rename the file to give it an appropriate file extension; e.g., .mp3 for MP3 audio.
The file should now be playable in VLC Media Player.
To play in other players less forgiving of file format issues, it will need to be converted with a tool like foobar2000 or Audacity.
Even VLC Player can convert those files into mp3 or whatever else
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30hz said:
Even VLC Player can convert those files into mp3 or whatever else
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^This, a simple batch file for Windows that will convert anything VLC can play to 128k MP3 can be done using something like this:
Code:
@echo off
:infile
set /p infile=Input File:
set /p outfile=Output File:
echo.
echo Converting...
"C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" "%infile%" --sout=#transcode{vcodec=none,acodec=mp3,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=mp3,dst="%output%"}} vlc://quit
echo Done!
echo.
goto infile
copying tunein files to pc
sprsk said:
Hello ,
I am using Tunein for my Samsung Galaxy S2 (Android Ice Cream) and i am very happy with it .
I tryed to use the Recording for an Interview of mine.
In my screen (when the station played) i saw the *wma format.
Was exactly the same like ur attached pictured but with the wma as the format .
Recording it and i hearing it from my phone was fine.
Later i tryed to copy it and played in my PC.
I was very sad when i realized that i couldn't hear it or even opened it .
The recorded File didnt had any extation , so when i copyed to the Pc, could not recognized what program to use in order to play it.
Looking in the internet i saw several technik's but with No results . I also downloaded some wma convertes .
The problem is that Windows can not recognize the file .
When i simple change the extension to *wma (as u say in ur Post) again didnt worked.
PLz Help me ,
how i could play the file ( of my Radio Interview) in my PC and use-convert it as a common for exaple *mp3 file .
Tnk you .
I wish you a Happy New YEAR 2013
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Hi hi I just copied recorded files from my HTC amaze to my PC , then appended with mp3 , the files played properly, good luck
Standardize mp3 envelope without re-encoding?
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I am able to open TuneIn Radio recordings with VLC or Audacity on my Mac. I can also, apparently, export the files or selections in various formats, including MP3. But how do I do that without re-encoding them?
Does anyone know a way, even perhaps using a hex editor or unix commands, to convert TuneIn Radio recordings of mp3 streams into generally-recognizable mp3 files by changing the envelope but without re-encoding the actual audio content?
TIR?
My recordings are being saved as .tir and when I change it to mp3 or aac, nothing happens. I have tried opening it in Audacity, foobar, vlc, and regular windows media player.
Is there another setting I need to do in Tune In Pro?
I am using Tune In Pro on an iphone and ipad, JB with 6.1.2
Thanks
gmgdnj said:
My recordings are being saved as .tir and when I change it to mp3 or aac, nothing happens. I have tried opening it in Audacity, foobar, vlc, and regular windows media player.
Is there another setting I need to do in Tune In Pro? I am using Tune In Pro on an iphone and ipad, JB with 6.1.2
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1. Where's the .tir file extension coming from? TIP creates recordings here with no file extension.
2. What's the format of the stream you're recording? As I explain in reply #9, TRP saves the stream in its native format, so you need to check the stream for the actual format before giving it an appropriate file extension. You'll have the least trouble with MP3, so record an MP3 stream if possible.
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aarons510 said:
I am able to open TuneIn Radio recordings with VLC or Audacity on my Mac. I can also, apparently, export the files or selections in various formats, including MP3. But how do I do that without re-encoding them?
Does anyone know a way, even perhaps using a hex editor or unix commands, to convert TuneIn Radio recordings of mp3 streams into generally-recognizable mp3 files by changing the envelope but without re-encoding the actual audio content?
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You might want to try MP3 Analyzer (fix and repair mp3 errors) in Helium Music Manager.
I've never tried it, but it sounds promising, and there is a free version.
JNavas2 said:
1. Where's the .tir file extension coming from? TIP creates recordings here with no file extension.
2. What's the format of the stream you're recording? As I explain in reply #9, TRP saves the stream in its native format, so you need to check the stream for the actual format before giving it an appropriate file extension. You'll have the least trouble with MP3, so record an MP3 stream if possible.
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You might want to try MP3 Analyzer (fix and repair mp3 errors) in Helium Music Manager.
I've never tried it, but it sounds promising, and there is a free version.
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I'm having the same issue as the previous poster with my iPhone and TuneIn Pro. I was listening to the BBC World Service earlier this morning (on my local NPR station, michiganradio.orgg and recorded the segment on the Cyprus bailout (which was really good by the way. absolute theft from the depositors without democratic process). I pressed record in TuneIn, did some Google'ing, downloaded and installed iExplorer, exported the recording (which had a .tir extension) to my desktop, and attempted to rename to .wav/.mp3. No VLC playback. I'm worried there might be some DRM in the file...anyone want to take a look and see what they might be able to do with the recording?
I've uploaded it to my Dropbox - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1308556/recording.tir
karpodiem said:
I'm having the same issue as the previous poster with my iPhone and TuneIn Pro. I was listening to the BBC World Service earlier this morning (on my local NPR station, michiganradio.orgg and recorded the segment on the Cyprus bailout (which was really good by the way. absolute theft from the depositors without democratic process). I pressed record in TuneIn, did some Google'ing, downloaded and installed iExplorer, exported the recording (which had a .tir extension) to my desktop, and attempted to rename to .wav/.mp3. No VLC playback. I'm worried there might be some DRM in the file...anyone want to take a look and see what they might be able to do with the recording?
I've uploaded it to my Dropbox - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1308556/recording.tir
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That is different that what Android recordings look like. I couldn't get it to play in anything, seems like a format specifically for TuneIn, .tir probably stands for TuneIn Recording. On Android the recordings are simply in the same format as the stream since reencoding them in real time would waste CPU/battery. It seems like on the iPhone it would be the same way, but it appears not to be. Did you try searching the iPhone developers forum, its a sister site to XDA and there may be info over there.
spunker88 said:
That is different that what Android recordings look like. I couldn't get it to play in anything, seems like a format specifically for TuneIn, .tir probably stands for TuneIn Recording. On Android the recordings are simply in the same format as the stream since reencoding them in real time would waste CPU/battery. It seems like on the iPhone it would be the same way, but it appears not to be. Did you try searching the iPhone developers forum, its a sister site to XDA and there may be info over there.
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same situation - no playback by VLC etc.
additionally I can hear only 1 (probably left) channel during playback using Tunein on my phone (S III) - who has similar observations?
one comment - name of the recorded stream is named based on current date but 1 month back
Worked for me. I can listen to my recordings.
thanks! :good: a great guide!

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