I'm getting my Mom a Skyrocket for Xmas. I'm going to set it up for her. I would like to remove some of the ATT junk. That would require root. But when ICS comes, I would like her to be able to get the update OTA without any problems. She lives 600 miles away and I can't just fix things for her easily.
If I root and then unroot, will she be able to gt OTA updates?
yes if you unroot you can recieve the update. even if your rooted but have stock recovery you should be able to recieve the update.. you must have stock recovery
silver03wrx said:
yes if you unroot you can recieve the update. even if your rooted but have stock recovery you should be able to recieve the update.. you must have stock recovery
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So if I just root for su access. Then install a few apps that require superuser to install but not run,then uninstall root I should be OK. But I could also leave root maybe?
So we can root, delete bloat ware then unroot?
you may not be able to take and ota update if u deleted bloat... you can root and freeze your bloat then if theres an ota update unfreeze and take teh update. as long as you have stock recovery..
draztikrhymez said:
So we can root, delete bloat ware then unroot?
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You missed a step
1) Root
2) Uninstall Bloatware
3) Install my own Bloatware
4) Unroot
I'm hoping that will work.
Or maybe leave root in place?
Silver03wrx is one of the best sources of help skyrockets have right now.
You only need stock recovery and bloatware means, you only need stock recovery and bloatware.
So freeze it, don't uninstall it. Anything that needs to be flashed by cwm, don't. Do it manually as cwm replaces stock recovery.
Aside from those, do whatever you want. Just make sure if any over the air updates come out, all the apps are unfrozen first or it can cause issues and/or no allow the update to install.
Play around with droidvnc. It allows remote connection to an Android. Let's you do remote assistance. Can be slow, but sometimes, most the time, faster than our parents.
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silver03wrx said:
you may not be able to take and ota update if u deleted bloat... you can root and freeze your bloat then if theres an ota update unfreeze and take teh update. as long as you have stock recovery..
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I'm new here, what does freezing do? I've seen it in Titanium. Won't the app still show in the appz menus?
les_garten said:
I'm new here, what does freezing do? I've seen it in Titanium. Won't the app still show in the appz menus?
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no. thats the point of freezing. it wont show up in app drawer or run in background if its a service....from looking at your phone, it wont appear that its installed, however, the files are still there in case you need to defrost them later on for some service that Samsung requires for an OTA (over the air)
if you uninstall, you are REMOVING the files from /system/apps/ and we dont know how that will react to an OTA at this point.
Hi, sorry to re-open an old thread but I too am a new android user and was wondering about the future ICS update for our skyrockets.
The words that keep repeating in this post are "freeze bloatware" and "stock recovery" in order to get the official ICS update.
I rooted my phone and used bloat freezer free found in the app market to freeze a bunch of bloat and installed wifi tether for root users. Does this mean I still have "stock recovery"?
Sorry- I've been an iphone user for the past 4 years (since nearly the first day it came out) and i'm not familiar with all the android terms yet. thanks!
You would know if u had stock recovery. Because you would have had to flash cwm recovery tar with odin or installed it with rom manager. If u did not do eiher of those yes you have stock recovery
Is there a way to get root access without installing CWM? I thought that was the only way to install the superuser file?
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so i recently used superoneclick to root my phone. The program said my phone is rooted yet when my kernels etc are the same as stock. I have superuser on my phone but how do i change the kernels etc so that i can use non market apps like wireless tether?
Kernels can be changed with new ROMS. Rooting means you get superuser permission on the terminals so things can be changed.
i dont understand what you asking about non market apps? But you can use apps that required root.
Hope i helped.
mithusingh32 said:
Kernels can be changed with new ROMS. Rooting means you get superuser permission on the terminals so things can be changed.
i dont understand what you asking about non market apps? But you can use apps that required root.
Hope i helped.
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thanks, sorry let me clarify.
I downloaded wireless tether and titanium backup to remove sprint ID. The issue is when i try to run either, they dont work. Wireless says the kernel is the issue. What else should I do to be able to use these apps?
samsung transform m920 with eclair
atros1 said:
thanks, sorry let me clarify.
I downloaded wireless tether and titanium backup to remove sprint ID. The issue is when i try to run either, they dont work. Wireless says the kernel is the issue. What else should I do to be able to use these apps?
samsung transform m920 with eclair
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Try barnacle(it's in the market) for wifi tether and you need to download and install busybox in order to use titanium backup, and be careful what you remove because you could brick your phone...
joenathane said:
Try barnacle(it's in the market) for wifi tether and you need to download and install busybox in order to use titanium backup, and be careful what you remove because you could brick your phone...
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Thank you for the barnacle thing, i havn't removed anything im having issues using anything that requires root access, just unrooted my phone.
Can anyone give me a step by step to rooting it? I simply want to remove sprint ID and have my phone run faster. Cant think of any apps i would really need.
Download z4root here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=446145&d=1290341328 transfer it to your sdcard and use a file manager to open it(if you don't have one download astro) install and run it, choose permanent root, and let it do it's thing...
did that, still isnt working, thank you though.
it appears anytime i try to run an app it says something along the lines of not having root access, even though it is rooted
Weird. Hmmmm. I meant i dont know much about your phone. I know that when my root got effed, i just did a factory reset and re-rooted and it worked.
Sorry couldnt help
have you tried this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkOp2Q2AM4 ?
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Weird. Hmmmm. I meant i dont know much about your phone. I know that when my root got effed, i just did a factory reset and re-rooted and it worked.
Sorry couldnt help
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thanks for trying either way
joenathane said:
have you tried this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkOp2Q2AM4 ?
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going to try this now, just didnt want to since it seems a bit more complicated and im really weak when it comes to linux
You could try installing Rom Manager from the market. If it works you will be able to flash a custom recovery, backup your device and flash a custom ROM.
Give it a go and let us know if it works.
cool so i followed the video, then it wasnt rooted, so i used z4root apparently it took two things to fully root my phone. Not sure why, some sort of sprint failsafe?
Although i forgot to set a backup to sprint features, so im a bit screwed down the road.
You prolly can find a sprint ROM somewhere. Or you could do a factory reset, not sure of that will bring back the sprint apps. Dont they have the sprint apps on the Android market?
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cool so i followed the video, then it wasnt rooted, so i used z4root apparently it took two things to fully root my phone. Not sure why, some sort of sprint failsafe?
Although i forgot to set a backup to sprint features, so im a bit screwed down the road.
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That would be my video. AND no, you are NOT rooted if you flashed that tar. All that tar does, is make your phone STOCK with custom recovery, to ensure a nice clean platform to work with. You would hold down volume down, voice button, and power. let go when you see samsung, and then apply an update.zip for the kernel. i do have a video on how to root the Android 2.2.2 and it's a proper root video. Sorry for the confusion.
don't know why - but my phone still rootedm, even after 2.3.2 update
Any idea how come?
oxothuk_uae said:
don't know why - but my phone still rootedm, even after 2.3.2 update
Any idea how come?
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By "still rooted" do you mean you still have the superuser.apk or can you actually still boot into CWM? Because an OTA will not delete those apps but it WILL break root.
oxothuk_uae said:
don't know why - but my phone still rootedm, even after 2.3.2 update
Any idea how come?
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The update doesn't wipe the phone at all, it only patches certain files in the /system partition, so it doesn't actually delete the su binary in /system/bin or the superuser.apk in /data/apps.
The update script does, however, do a recursive chmod of the permission on /system/bin, and that broke root on my phone. Even though the files were still there, and some apps thought that I was still rooted, many root things (like Titanium and Root Explorer's ability to mount /system as R/W) wouldn't work.
I've seen some reports that root stuck, but I'd advise flashing the su update again...it's quick and easy to do with CWM, and it will fix the permissions to make sure none of your apps have any issues.
Are you sure the update actually occurred? Your android version and build number have changed?
so, now i have
Android version - 2.3.2
Kernel - 2.6.35.7-g7f1638a
Build number - GRH78C
if start titanium backup - can see that superuser permission granted
Market access working perfectly - i hav an acces for paid apps
Can grab screen with ShootMe
dont remember how did i root - seems i just run some script on ubuntu notebook
Thanks for everybody for replies
yes, going into CWR can easily update the permissions recursively
not sure but probably i am on superboot loader (not SWR)
being rooted does not stop OTA updates, it never has. being on a ROM other than stock is when you cant get the updates. if i root, and leave on the stock ROM, the update should come thru jsut fine. at least that was my understanding.
RogerPodacter said:
being rooted does not stop OTA updates, it never has. being on a ROM other than stock is when you cant get the updates. if i root, and leave on the stock ROM, the update should come thru jsut fine. at least that was my understanding.
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He's saying that he thought the OTA would unroot him, not that being rooted would keep him from OTAing.
Funny how the update seems to impact the root of people differently. It definitely broke mine, even though it didn't erase the files.
Oh oops my bad I mis read!
The update didn't break my root
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The update didn't break my root
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it seems new uppdate does not unroot phones with superboot rooting
No Update
Hello,
I tried to update my phone but I am now looking since 10 minutes at the little Android and nothing happens.
There was a short message where the Clockworkrecovery said something like it could not verfy the update file.
Should I just put out the battery and try to reboot?
Edit:
The Clockwork recovery came up again and I selected to reboot the phone. Now it's still running on 2.3.1.
What have I done wrong?
Is it the little android and a triangle with a ! inside it? That happened to me also and I found out that if u change any system files like patching the 3d gallery apk or in my case I deleted the genie widget apk, it will cause ota's not to take.
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Is it the little android and a triangle with a ! inside it? That happened to me also and I found out that if u change any system files like patching the 3d gallery apk or in my case I deleted the genie widget apk, it will cause ota's not to take.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Yes, exactly!
So is the solution maybe to wait till the 2.3.2 version is available at the ROM Manager?
Ok so one day my phone is all nice and dandy, rooted as a tree, and then I go to Advence Freeze an app, and Rom Toolbox Pro tells me I no longer have root access. So I go into Titanium backup and it says the same thing. For total verification, I go to Terminal Emulator, and the "su" command gives me a "not granted" response. So while I had root yesterday, for some reason I don't have it today. The thing I'm worried about most is that I did absolutely nothing in the meantime. The phone hadn't restarted in 3 days so that wasn't it. And all I did before it unrooted itself iis use the Inkpad Notepad app, and the Boat Browser app. I didn't touch a single thing that could possibly mess something up. Root hasn't always been very "observable" on my phone. After about a week after rooting it, Superuser stopped asking me if I wanted to allow or deny new apps. But all my root apps still worked. I run no special rom, just stock 4.1.2. I have SafeStrap Bootloader installed for backups as well. I downloaded Motochopper to try to reroot my phone just a few minutes ago and the exploit ran flawlessly. No errors whatsoever. When it booted up, still no root access. To be more specific, Voodoo OTA Root Keeper tells me the device is rooted, but without root access. I also have a root backup made with that program. Can someone please tell me how to fix this because the thought of a "normal" phone is making me depressed :crying:.
Try updating your SU and see if that does anything.
RikRong said:
Try updating your SU and see if that does anything.
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The only way I could think of doing that is from the superuser app (if you mean update the binaries) and I already tried. It fails at "gettingroot access".
miapuffia said:
The only way I could think of doing that is from the superuser app (if you mean update the binaries) and I already tried. It fails at "gettingroot access".
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Hmmm...
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Hmmm...
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Perhaps I could backup my data using SafeStrap TWRP, download stock rooted 4.3 (which I wanted since it came out), install it to rom slot 2 using SafeStrap, and then restore my data! Where's my nobel prize? lol Would that work?
miapuffia said:
Perhaps I could backup my data using SafeStrap TWRP, download stock rooted 4.3 (which I wanted since it came out), install it to rom slot 2 using SafeStrap, and then restore my data! Where's my nobel prize? lol Would that work?
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There is no stock 4.3 ROM for us. The highest stock version would be 4.1.2. You can get CM10.2 that is vanilla AOSP, but I don't know if it would boot on SS.
RikRong said:
There is no stock 4.3 ROM for us. The highest stock version would be 4.1.2. You can get CM10.2 that is vanilla AOSP, but I don't know if it would boot on SS.
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I see. That's why my rooted 4.3 search came up.blank. I don't mind trying CM. I tried to SS install it previously but it failed (kinda). But now that I think about it I definitely installed the wrong version. As long as I can restore my data to CM I don't mind trying it. Can I get 4.1.2, root it, and then restore data? But wait, I know my bro has 4.3 rooted he used temp unroot -> update -> restore root. Can I do that? In case you didn't notice I'm new to this :/
My old s3 broke, just got my new s3 today. I just rooted my device, and was wondering if it was ok to update my phone. An annoying prompt keeps asking me to update. Dont know if I'm supposed to disable it or update my phone.
leave it alone..update is useless..unroots your phone..stay away
sent from a DIS-GRUNTLED GS3
Can you or anyone tell me how I can disable it? it keeps popping up on me. its annoying!
Schism169 said:
Can you or anyone tell me how I can disable it? it keeps popping up on me. its annoying!
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Use an app like Titanium Backup, switch to "System" apps via the filter, then press the specific app. Or use a file explorer, grant it root access, then navigate to /System and rename the file to "sdm 1.0.bak" or delete it.
Thank you guys, Got it frozen
Is there a way to do it without a rooted phone? Titantium backup apparently needs root. This stupid update is so annoying. I plan to root my phone in the future so I dont want the update but I dont have time to figure out how to root it right now.
smalco44 said:
Is there a way to do it without a rooted phone? Titantium backup apparently needs root. This stupid update is so annoying. I plan to root my phone in the future so I dont want the update but I dont have time to figure out how to root it right now.
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No and if there were a way to do this non-rooted, that would be a very questionable security flaw.
Edit: Use Saferoot to gain root access on VRUCML1, when you find time. Links and info in our TW 4.3 Sticky.
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Am I correct in assuming simply freezing SDM will stop OTA's? I thought there was one other thing that had to be frozen.
gospodinwizard said:
Am I correct in assuming simply freezing SDM will stop OTA's? I thought there was one other thing that had to be frozen.
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Freezing SDM was all I needed to do on my S3 to stop the update nags. Others have mentioned another file "FWUpdate", but I could not find it on my S3. I would just try freezing SDM 1.0 and see if that does it, if not, then look for the other file.
does anyone know what the new I535VRUCNC1 has to offer over the ML1 update?
esjames said:
does anyone know what the new I535VRUCNC1 has to offer over the ML1 update?
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Literally one thing: http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/galaxy_s3-4.30.14.pdf
Well, then. Thats a worthy update lol
esjames said:
Well, then. Thats a worthy update lol
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by all means, if you're traveling to Canada then update away haha
Lmao wow. That's the most pitiful update ever. Seriously, couldn't they have waited until there was something more substantial and then included Canadian roaming in THAT update. As always though, Verizon is dumber than a bag of hammers...
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Might be worthwhile to extract the modem package and see if the SMS bug is rectified.
wow
i was so sure this was a KK upgrade. been looking around for how to retain root if you take it. thanks for the info!
Hey guys, I have a question about this update,
My friend has the S3 for whom I safe- rooted, debloated and whatnot. Now that this update came, my friend tried to update but to no avail. She is adamant about the fact that Verizon definitely has something important hidden in the update, despite me trying to tell her otherwise, and figured that she couldn't install the update because she was rooted.
Naturally, I fully unroot her entire phone, uninstall root-only apps, and try the update, but it doesn't work. When the phone reboots for installation, the installation bar loads for a bit,hangs, then just says "error" and does not update.
Anyone know what the problem could be? Normally I wouldn't care so much, but if Android 4.4 is actually coming to the S3 then I don't want her not to have it, and I can already tell it's not going to work if this update doesn't either.
Thank you so much in advance.
EddieK23 said:
Hey guys, I have a question about this update,
My friend has the S3 for whom I safe- rooted, debloated and whatnot. Now that this update came, my friend tried to update but to no avail. She is adamant about the fact that Verizon definitely has something important hidden in the update, despite me trying to tell her otherwise, and figured that she couldn't install the update because she was rooted.
Naturally, I fully unroot her entire phone, uninstall root-only apps, and try the update, but it doesn't work. When the phone reboots for installation, the installation bar loads for a bit,hangs, then just says "error" and does not update.
Anyone know what the problem could be? Normally I wouldn't care so much, but if Android 4.4 is actually coming to the S3 then I don't want her not to have it, and I can already tell it's not going to work if this update doesn't either.
Thank you so much in advance.
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Some of the bloatware you removed likely had to be present on the phone in order for the update to take place. Unless you are sure someone is never going to go back to stock without flashing an ODIN tar image and wiping their phone clean, best to just freeze bloatware with Titanium Backup. That way you can just unfreeze it in order to go back to full stock. Unless you have a list of the bloatware you removed and can somehow sideload them back in, you will unfortunately have to flash her phone to full stock VRUCML1 and wipe it clean.
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Some of the bloatware you removed likely had to be present on the phone in order for the update to take place. Unless you are sure someone is never going to go back to stock without flashing an ODIN tar image and wiping their phone clean, best to just freeze bloatware with Titanium Backup. That way you can just unfreeze it in order to go back to full stock. Unless you have a list of the bloatware you removed and can somehow sideload them back in, you will unfortunately have to flash her phone to full stock VRUCML1 and wipe it clean.
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Ah, I see, next time I'm around her I'll re-root it and backup all her stuff with titanium backup, flash the VRUCML1 and factory reset, then restore everything and see if it works.
Strangely enough, when the same update for my Verizon Note 2 came out, I was able to update while rooted even though I unsinatalled theexact same system apps I did on her phone. How strange.
Nonetheless, thank you so much.
I have a question for you all. I took the OTA update for 4.3 when it came out but after that I rooted my gs3 Verizon phone again successfully. Now I also took this last update and now lost root on my phone. I tried to reroot the phone but it fails now. There error I get on safestrap is something about the addresses not being able to be found. Can anyone help me reroot my phone so my apps like titanium will work again?
Thanks
Joe R said:
I have a question for you all. I took the OTA update for 4.3 when it came out but after that I rooted my gs3 Verizon phone again successfully. Now I also took this last update and now lost root on my phone. I tried to reroot the phone but it fails now. There error I get on safestrap is something about the addresses not being able to be found. Can anyone help me reroot my phone so my apps like titanium will work again?
Thanks
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U gotta Odin back to 4.3 ML1 .. The latest update unroots your fone. And can not be rooted.
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Ok thanks. I will try to find an ML1 download.
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Ok, since I'm not doing the update, how do I get rid of this nagging reminder popping up that I need to update?
pnuker said:
Ok, since I'm not doing the update, how do I get rid of this nagging reminder popping up that I need to update?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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Maintained root
twistedillutions said:
U gotta Odin back to 4.3 ML1 .. The latest update unroots your fone. And can not be rooted.
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I was able to maintain root on the OTA update by having OTA Survival Mode checked on SuperSU.
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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Looks like the link is broken. I searched the forum and came up empty. Anyone know what the link should've been or how to disable this junk?
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Looks like the link is broken. I searched the forum and came up empty. Anyone know what the link should've been or how to disable this junk?
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Apparently I need a refresher on how to properly copy and paste Here's the link again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52515244#post52515244
I have not yet updated to this new patch yet, am I still able to install saferoot as directed on the thread for it or do I need to do something special first?