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there is a usb hookup.. so the question is raised, in my mind, can you hook up an external hard drive and thus rendering the 13gb a non issue (at least in the area of video/audio files).
anyone had experience with this?
I've been able to use my flash usb thumb drives without any problems, however when I plugged my WD 1Tb storage drive into the GTab, used ES File explorer to open usbdisk folder but did not see any files listed.
If you want to use a external usb hard drive for movies/files it has to be formated fat32 and it will work.
I have connected with 16gb, 32gb, 64gb and a 500gb Western Digital HD (usb powered). All work fine, but best to NOT remove the USB until the G is placed in sleep mode. There appears to be an unmounting issue that also blows up the app index. Apps can vanish and then not appear again until rebooting.
Archos 101 seems to have a similar issue, so maybe Froyo related.
rushless said:
I have connected with 16gb, 32gb, 64gb and a 500gb Western Digital HD (usb powered). All work fine, but best to NOT remove the USB until the G is placed in sleep mode. There appears to be an unmounting issue that also blows up the app index. Apps can vanish and then not appear again until rebooting.
Archos 101 seems to have a similar issue, so maybe Froyo related.
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Yeah, I try to put mine to sleep before I pull out my thumb drive as well, but sometimes I forget and as soon as I yank it, the tablet reboots. Ugh!
I bought a 500gb Seagate the same night I got my tablet (been needing a portable hd for a while). It wouldn't work on either the tablet or my PS3. Definitely a format thing. As mentioned earlier, it needs to be formatted Fat32.
Just an FYI, formatting a big hd to Fat32 isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Windows 7 won't do Fat32 and 95 has a size limit (32 gb maybe?). HP has a program you get download from their site. It works on any make, not just their's. If anyone needs it, I still have it on my PC at home.
J_Bone said:
I bought a 500gb Seagate the same night I got my tablet (been needing a portable hd for a while). It wouldn't work on either the tablet or my PS3. Definitely a format thing. As mentioned earlier, it needs to be formatted Fat32.
Just an FYI, formatting a big hd to Fat32 isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Windows 7 won't do Fat32 and 95 has a size limit (32 gb maybe?). HP has a program you get download from their site. It works on any make, not just their's. If anyone needs it, I still have it on my PC at home.
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What is the app called? Work with Vista? I tried formatting a 1gb HD to Fat32 via DOS commands, but failed.
As far as USB, main issue for removing while G is asleep (besides random reboots) is that removing while awake seems to be a main reason apps vanish until a reboot.
If I need to format a big, big hard drive to FAT32, I'll boot up a Linux LiveCD (usually Ubuntu or Knoppix) and use gParted to do it.
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What is the app called? Work with Vista? I tried formatting a 1gb HD to Fat32 via DOS commands, but failed.
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This is a different site but I think it is the same program. One of the comments said it didn't work on Vista business but YMMV. Worth a try.
http://hp-usb-disk-storage-format-tool.software.informer.com/
I went and checked my reformatted portable drive a few minutes ago and the tablet doesn't recognize it. It actually says there are no files in that directory. The drive is working on my pc and PS3. I put a small 4 gb stick in the tablet and it read it fine.
Any ideas?
It recognized my Ipod 120GB classic in disk mode. It also appears to be hot swappedable.
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It recognized my Ipod 120GB classic in disk mode. It also appears to be hot swappedable.
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It is hardware wise. Software wise, depending on ROM, it can crash your tablet. I try to put it to sleep before pulling my flash drive out. If not, sometimes it will go black and I'll see the boot animation.
I went to the link above looking for the Fat32 > 32 gig tool and it was not available.
If you need this tool, Google for "HP SP27608" and there are a few places where you can download it. HP didn't even have it on their FTP server -- don't know why they have quit offering it?!
Rev
Hi,
Sorry for the late post, but I just got around to trying a bunch of my USB flash drives, and Gtab doesn't see any of them ...
The LED on the drives flashes for a second, then goes off.
Do I have to mount it or something?
Jim
same problem here too. Is there a way to mount a USB drive without formatting? I do not want to loose my collection.
I've never had an issue with my Flash drives (VEGAn or TnT Lite). Are the drives formatted to FAT32?
I have had an issue with a 32GB USB flash drive not showing up on the gtab. I plugged it into my win7. Machine, moved files off, formatted fat, put files back on and it worked fine in the tab.
Another note, using vegan, I never sleep the device to get the drive out. Just wait a second and Yank it. Never been an issue for me.
I have noticed that my flash drives don't mount 100% of the time and sometimes require dis/reconnecting. Also I have a 1tb wd my passport. I formatted the whole drive fat32 and the gtab wouldn't see it. I then formatted just a partition of 120gb in fat32.....still no dice. I then reduced the partition to 32gb nd the gtab sees/reads/writes no problem.
I'm wondering how that other Guy got his 500gb to mount....
I'd like to know how folks have been able to get their external hard drives recognized as well. I have tried stock and tnt lite roms. Also tried several different hard disks all formated fat32. Even repartioned disks to 8GB and still no joy. Flash drives I own all work OK. Just can't use hard disk as yet. Even tried new rom image that came out today, no luck. Am I missing or not doing something?
The usb port does not supply enough power for external hard drives. I tried several and they did not show up in dmesg. When I used one with external power, the drive was seen and the partitions, but was not mounted.
The usb port does not supply enough power for external hard drives. I tried several and they did not show up in dmesg. When I used one with external power, the drive was seen and the partitions, but was not mounted.
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Thanks, but 2 out of 3 drives I tried use ext power. still no work.
Can anyone who has this working please post what drive they are using?
Hello,
I have a pretty cheap but good android tablet made by craig, it is a Craig CMP 738a Android Tablet, and I was wondering with the specs that the tablet contains, that it might be able to run Windows XP.
I will do everything myself, like rebuilding the XP to run with drivers that might make the touchscreen and stuff work, but I've run into a major problem that I cannot seem to figure out.
I cannot figure out how to boot from say, a bootable flash drive on the tablet to where I can install Windows XP. I can't figure out how to load the files to install the OS. (The tablet does have a USB Port to use)
Can anyone possibly figure out how to boot from a flash drive instead of the default Android OS?
Thank you, and I would also love to try a Linux OS like Ubuntu on that tablet as well. Might be easier.
Android Tablet Specs
RAM: 256 MB
CPU: 700 MHz
HDD: 4GB Flash Memory w. External SD Card (8GB Memory)
Hardware: 7" (i think) 720x480 Resistive Touch Screen
Hard Home Button, Hard Option (menu) button, and Power Button, the back button is software.
Volume buttons and a power switch, Mini HDMI Port, USB Host, USB Port (for connecting to computer), SD Slot (up to 32GB memory).
TheRPGLPer said:
Hello,
I have a pretty cheap but good android tablet made by craig, it is a Craig CMP 738a Android Tablet, and I was wondering with the specs that the tablet contains, that it might be able to run Windows XP.
I will do everything myself, like rebuilding the XP to run with drivers that might make the touchscreen and stuff work, but I've run into a major problem that I cannot seem to figure out.
I cannot figure out how to boot from say, a bootable flash drive on the tablet to where I can install Windows XP. I can't figure out how to load the files to install the OS. (The tablet does have a USB Port to use)
Can anyone possibly figure out how to boot from a flash drive instead of the default Android OS?
Thank you, and I would also love to try a Linux OS like Ubuntu on that tablet as well. Might be easier.
Android Tablet Specs
RAM: 256 MB
CPU: 700 MHz
HDD: 4GB Flash Memory w. External SD Card (8GB Memory)
Hardware: 7" (i think) 720x480 Resistive Touch Screen
Hard Home Button, Hard Option (menu) button, and Power Button, the back button is software.
Volume buttons and a power switch, Mini HDMI Port, USB Host, USB Port (for connecting to computer), SD Slot (up to 32GB memory).
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I don't believe your tab has the power to run XP. You'd need at least a gig of ram. Also this project is futile. You'd need to compile a new boot loader and technically it would be illegal based on Microsoft software stuff. It's a nice idea but just buy a Windows tab. In the end it'll be cheaper lol.
Its damn near impossible considering we don't have the source code for XP. All programs that run on desktops and laptops are compiled to run on x86 processors, just about all mobile devices are using ARM processors so you would need to recompile the code for ARM.
All it was really was an idea to do in my free time, and no source code for XP would be a problem, though, I do have 98 laying around somewhere. What about linux? Would that be easier to do?
EDIT: I've solved the booting problem though. I just need to unlock the device's bootloader. I need to know how to enter bootloader mode on this device though, can I do it through ADB? It is a rooted device.
Hey XDA,
I recently bought a cheap Android TV Stick, a MK908 to be precise. I did't pay much for it, because the previous owner said it didn't work well. Indeed it doesn't really function like it should (sometimes boots regularly, sometimes shows glitches and just reboots), so I decided to flash another firmware to see what that does.
However, it doesn't seem to work. I obviously have read how to flash, so to connect the stick with the OTG-port, press the button and connect it to pc while the button is pressed. But windows tells me it found a new usb-device, and not even a second later it tells me the device is disconnected. I am using windows 8.1 in a virtual machine on a macbook through vmware fusion. OS X (10.9) is completely up to date, windows too. I have told vmware to always connect the tv-stick to the virtual machine, not to the mac.
Does anyone have any idea how to resolve this? Below is an image of the internals of the stick.
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This is a windows tablet, but I think it would be cool to have this run android as well, so I tried a few emulators running under windows 10, but they are very slow, unstable or didnt run at all. Doid4X, an Nox worked, Andy refused to start).
I kept the Nox App Player, cause that was the one I found most responsive of these.
Perhaps the fact that they barely meets the minimum RAM requirement is a major cause for it being slow.
Then I decided to try the android-x86, which is not an emulator, but an andoid port to x86, and will run natively.
The Lollipop EFI image does work as a live usb media , and I was able to install it to another usb stick, but that got stuck on the aandoid logo when booting. The 4.4r3 EFI image did work better, and was able to install to a second usb stick and boot up into android.
I must say that android-x86 did impress me. It feels quite quick and responsive, and any app I have tried so far does run. Even MineCraft PE works well. The display and touchscreen works well, and volume buttons works.
There are a few driver related issues though, here is a list of some things not working:
- onboard wifi
- onboard Bluetooth
- Sensors (auto rotate will not work)
- Audio out and mic
- Power button
- Battery status
- Camera
I did a few tests, and as a workaround I did use an external usb wifi adapter to get internet working. Also connecting a usb headset with mic did work fine, external keyboard. Also a non branded bluetooth adapter was accepted and the BT icon was enabled, but it didnt find any devices when searching. Even a logitech webcam did work with opencam.
Given the current state of andoid-x86 on this tab, it doesnt make sense to partition the disk to get a dual boot. But if there was working drivers for wifi and audio etc, this could be a decent android system.
Now the android version of the tab 8 looks quite similar to the w1-810, so that makes me wonder how much of the hardware components that are the same. And if it may be possible to get the drivers from the original android to work on android-x86.
I will try to list the hw configuration as I can read from devicemanager/drivers in win10:
wifi: broadcom 4330 / Sound: intel SST audio device / camera: Intel Imaging signal processor 2400 / Bluetooth: BCMBTBUS / Sensors: BMA2x2 ( BMA250E) / Battery control hardware ID is PNP0C0A
Any ideas on how to get these things working would be great.
forum administrators:
I did tag this thread with iconia-tab-8, but for some reason it will not show under "Acer Iconia Tab 8 Discussion" list.
Did I miss something, or doesnt the tag system work properly.
Is there anything I can do to fix this?
I also have this tablet and I am also eager for installing fully functional Android on it. Please guys help us on this. Thanks in advance.
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Hello,
I've just purchased a Cenovo Mini PC 2 (Atom Z8300 Cherry Trail 4/64 GB). Which runs fine, other that it overheats (temperatures up to 80 C, and then it hangs).
Anyone else with this particular model? I'm looking for a DIY solution for a better cooling.
Another issue that I'm having is being unable to enter the BIOS (any keyboard key at startup doesn't do a thing).
Update...I've stress tested the PC through the Aida64 System Stability test, which ran 4 hrs without freezing the system. Max temp was 85C but the system remained stable.
I did not suceed to reproduce sys freezing and will post further details.
Other than that I haven't been able to enter the BIOS. Also I didn't get the reply from the Cenovo support (a week passed from contacting them).
Update #2
It seems that the issue is the graphics driver. Updating to a newer version doesn't solve the problem. Manufacturer (Cenovo) should provide the updated drivers, but they don't have the customer support so...
Last update. Problem was with the Intel graphics driver. When the driver is removed, the PC works flawlessly. I'm now trying the various versions of Intel HD drivers. There is no drivers from the manufacturer though.
Hi for the latest hd drivers and not only that you have to install the Intel Driver Update Utility
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html
and automatically will install all the latest drivers
for the bios that is odd usually with the delete or esc button you should enter the bios set up in my case thats how i do it in pipo x7 and by the way i am also waiting for mine cenovo mini pc 2 lets see how it will perform.
Hello, i had the overheating problems and i install one little fan on top, you can see on you tube if you search cenovo mini pc 2 problems.
I enter the bios pressing escape on boot
I have no sound after some updates of the drivers with SDI
Any idea how i can install windows 7 on this box?
Hello all,
I've used Intel Update Utility. Both drivers which the application displays as suited are not good - they cause random crashes. I always do a clean install, using DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller).
Also I can't find the audio driver - when the system initially came preinstalled it functioned. After reset of a Windows, audio does not work (for me not an issue since I have USB sound card much better than one installed).
I'm currently using this little thing without Intel GPU drivers and it is stable (running days without a problem), but without GPU acceleration (which also is not a big issue, because everything in 2d works just about the same, even 1080p Youtube and videos).
Confirmed - Esc on boot enters the BIOS - thanks.
Maybe, just maybe, high temperatures are cause of Intel GPU driver messing up the system?
Nikolarasbig said:
Hello, i had the overheating problems and i install one little fan on top, you can see on you tube if you search cenovo mini pc 2 problems.
I enter the bios pressing escape on boot
I have no sound after some updates of the drivers with SDI
Any idea how i can install windows 7 on this box?
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Since the BIOS is accessible, one can try to use Win7 installation USB, and to try booting from that.
I suppose it is doable, but the issue would probably be the drivers.
Nikolarasbig said:
Hello, i had the overheating problems and i install one little fan on top, you can see on you tube if you search cenovo mini pc 2 problems.
I enter the bios pressing escape on boot
I have no sound after some updates of the drivers with SDI
Any idea how i can install windows 7 on this box?
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Confirmed with esc button you enter the bios, good mod Νικο i will try with some thermal pads between the heatsink and the plate elevate the cenovo with some bottle caps and put a fan below and if i dont get any drops in temps then the alternative is to make the mod you make, i dont think you can install windows 7 it was a long talk since the pipo x7 but cannot be done due to uefi here is a link i ve found but use at your own risk http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...e-firmware-interface-install-windows-7-a.html
I do not recomended.
tarmiricmitarmiricmi said:
Hello all,
I've used Intel Update Utility. Both drivers which the application displays as suited are not good - they cause random crashes. I always do a clean install, using DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller).
Also I can't find the audio driver - when the system initially came preinstalled it functioned. After reset of a Windows, audio does not work (for me not an issue since I have USB sound card much better than one installed).
I'm currently using this little thing without Intel GPU drivers and it is stable (running days without a problem), but without GPU acceleration (which also is not a big issue, because everything in 2d works just about the same, even 1080p Youtube and videos).
Maybe, just maybe, high temperatures are cause of Intel GPU driver messing up the system?
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I dont think is the gpu driver its the space of the cenovo to compact no airways to get hot air out the same isuues short of had the pipo x7 but x7 was made from aluminium and with a little moding (heatsinks,thermal pads, and a fan to the side never passed 50c)
windows still crashes
Before the mod i try one Laptop Cooling Pad and i take some more minutes before windows crash. The air not flow properly because they make holes only in the bottom.
I also replace the thermal pad between the heatsink and the cpu with a little medal plague and thermal silicone. The temp now is 45-50 c but i still have some problems.
The box can play hd youtube videos for hours, but it freeze finally when nothing is running on windows.
I replace the power supply, and some vga drivers but the problem of freezing continue...
Nikolarasbig said:
Before the mod i try one Laptop Cooling Pad and i take some more minutes before windows crash. The air not flow properly because they make holes only in the bottom.
I also replace the thermal pad between the heatsink and the cpu with a little medal plague and thermal silicone. The temp now is 45-50 c but i still have some problems.
The box can play hd youtube videos for hours, but it freeze finally when nothing is running on windows.
I replace the power supply, and some vga drivers but the problem of freezing continue...
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Try uninstalling and cleaning the display drivers with DDU - Display Driver Uninstaller.
Then use just generic Microsoft driver and test the unit.
I have exactly the same problem with Intel drivers....otherwise the mini pc runs stable and fine, no matter what you throw at it (albeit without GPU acceleration but I don't play 3D games on it its slow for that anyhow)
As for the mounting fan on it, I really wanted a silent PC and don't want to do that (there are other passive methods but one must disassemble case - don't want that either).
Fan
Thanks tarmiricmitarmiricmi i will try your way with drivers.
The fan i use, is 12 volts and i give only 5 volts from the usb plug (red +, black - ) and the fan is silent because run in slower speed because the volts.
Nikolarasbig said:
Thanks tarmiricmitarmiricmi i will try your way with drivers.
The fan i use, is 12 volts and i give only 5 volts from the usb plug (red +, black - ) and the fan is silent because run in slower speed because the volts.
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I saw your video on Youtube - it is a good solution. However, there are other things that could be improved in order to improve air flow. Thermal pad could be replaced with this, and instead a aluminion/iron plate (that you took off), a copper one could be installed (copper is better insulating material than those two). I think that with those mods temperature would be lower 5-10 degrees C. But I do not want to invest a penny in the unit It is actually now running as my only PC and it suits my needs really good (for now - light use).
Problem with the GPU drivers uninstalling is Windows Update. When you uninstall Intel drivers and reboot the system, Windows Update will automatically locate drivers from the MS server, and download and install them (with the same problems - freezing again). Now, Windows Update in Win 10 can't be disabled / or some of the updates cannot be marked to be not downloaded as on a Win7/8 (MS really messed up Win10 update). They provided the fix which can do that.
Now, what you need to do is:
1. Download Display Driver Uninstaller,
2. Run it in Safe mode , remove the driver and reboot,
3. Download this
4. Start it, find the Windows Update Intel drivers and hide it,
5. Voila. Now you can use Mini PC 2 with generic MS drivers (without freezing) and without automatic updating of Intel GPU drivers (again).
Well did some testing my self 30 minutes youtube videos 1080p max temp 60c, then test a movie in kodi about 20 minutes playback max temp 53c no freezing in both tests only thing i did was as i said a themal pad between heatsink and the plate and also put a fan underneath the cenovo.
xloupas said:
Well did some testing my self 30 minutes youtube videos 1080p max temp 60c, then test a movie in kodi about 20 minutes playback max temp 53c no freezing in both tests only thing i did was as i said a themal pad between heatsink and the plate and also put a fan underneath the cenovo.
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That is with the display driver removed?
tarmiricmitarmiricmi said:
That is with the display driver removed?
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No with the dispaly driver as it was haven't changed anything in software.
Update for the cenovo mini pc 2
I contact with the company who sell me the cenovo, they say try to reinstall windows from the recovery partition.
After the recovery, the cenovo still freeze if i do nothing for 2-3 min.
The windows ask for activation and don't activate with the serial of cenovo
I contact again with the company and they send me one crack on my mail to activate windows.
Before cenovo i use the Mini M8S TV Box Quad-core Amlogic S905 Android 5.1 2GB RAM 8GB ROM and i was very satisfied with the 1/3 of the money of cenovo...
tarmiricmitarmiricmi said:
I saw your video on Youtube - it is a good solution. However, there are other things that could be improved in order to improve air flow. Thermal pad could be replaced with this, and instead a aluminion/iron plate (that you took off), a copper one could be installed (copper is better insulating material than those two). I think that with those mods temperature would be lower 5-10 degrees C. But I do not want to invest a penny in the unit It is actually now running as my only PC and it suits my needs really good (for now - light use).
Problem with the GPU drivers uninstalling is Windows Update. When you uninstall Intel drivers and reboot the system, Windows Update will automatically locate drivers from the MS server, and download and install them (with the same problems - freezing again). Now, Windows Update in Win 10 can't be disabled / or some of the updates cannot be marked to be not downloaded as on a Win7/8 (MS really messed up Win10 update). They provided the fix which can do that.
Now, what you need to do is:
1. Download Display Driver Uninstaller,
2. Run it in Safe mode , remove the driver and reboot,
3. Download this
4. Start it, find the Windows Update Intel drivers and hide it,
5. Voila. Now you can use Mini PC 2 with generic MS drivers (without freezing) and without automatic updating of Intel GPU drivers (again).
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The link is dead in step 3 so if anyone need it you can download it from here http://download.microsoft.com/download/F/2/2/F22D5FDB-59CD-4275-8C95-1BE17BF70B21/wushowhide.diagcab
Even though i dont need it because my unit runs great hope that will help others.
I'm expecting to receive my own 4/64 unit in about three weeks. Thanks for all the operating knowledge database you're providing in this thread, guys.
I plan on using the box in addition to my current Mini M8S II (905X) box which is running excellently.
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