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Okay so I noticed my Captivate seems to lose a lot of battery while in standby. To test this, I left it unplugged when I went to bed last night. I checked the battery level right when I went to sleep and then again when I woke up...
My battery drained from 64% to 31% in about 7 hours!!!
I know other threads discuss bad battery life. A bright screen and a 1GHZ processor can cause this so I can understand why the phone won't allow me to browse the web for 10 hours straight. But is everyone else getting an almost 5%/hour drain in battery while in standby?
Here is a little info about my setup:
-I took off an animated background and put one that is relatively dark (Screen is off during standby so I would think this doesn't matter)
-I have WiFi and Bluetooth enabled.
-I use both wireless networks and GPS for location.
-I have 1 Gmail account setup to check every hour.
-I have the Daily Briefing set up to check every 3 hours.
-I have the Slickdeals widget set to check every 2 hours.
-I have the Latitude widget running (you can't set how often it refreshes).
-I have the ESPN ScoreCenter widget running.
That's about all I did that I can think of that can possibly affect battery. I know I would get better battery with less background widgets, but all of this is in line with the amount of background services I had running on my last phone (Tilt 2) and that thing would last for several days with light use.
So, what I'm trying to find out is whether or not this is normal behavior that everyone is seeing or perhaps if one of the background widgets I'm using is known for draining a crazy amount of battery. Maybe I need to hard reset the phone? Thanks in advance for any ideas on how to lock this down.
In poor reception I could see that. But I'm good area that's too much. Like 2% every hour is good... 5 is too much....
Thanks for your reply. I had 3 bars of service where I was last night. Also, this isn't the first time I've noticed about 5%/hour for standby, just one example...
So it sounds like I'm getting worse drain than normal? Now, how to fix it?
Well...with all the email checks and having various Widgets check for updates..it will definitely drain the battery. I have been able to easily get twelve+ hours on standby without GPS on and turning off wifi when not at home or in a place with wifi.
Definitely can't go days without charging like I could with previous phones like my blackjack II buy I can get 12-16 hours with light to moderate use and 10-12 with somewhat moderate use of Facebook, wifi, various other apps.
EDIT: the Bluetooth as well will drain the battery.
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I have very similar battery usage to use. About 5% an hour not doing anything. I am always around a wifi and leave it turned on. I have nearly an out of the box setup. Between the poor battery life and crappy GPS, I may very well be taking this thing back.
Under Settings > Wireless and Network > Wi-Fi settings > Bring up the Advanced menu and set the Wi-Fi sleep policy to "Never".
This has helped my battery life immensely, since I am around Wi-Fi most of the time. This way all your data happens over Wi-Fi instead of 3G when the screen sleeps. I disable Wi-Fi when I'm not around any APs I normally connect to.
Pulled phone off the charger at 6:00AM yesterday morning. Streamed an hour and half to 2+ hours worth of Pandora over wi-fi getting ready for work and then some in the car. Did some web surfing during the day, various other things. (No phone calls really, except a brief wrong number). 4 e-mail accounts checking every 30 minutes (one an Exchange server). Also have Touchdown running push e-mail for another Exchange mailbox along with the Touchdown widget. Played around with some GPS apps (new google maps, Places, etc for a few minutes). Battery was down to about 16% by about midnight last night.
My phone charged fully overnight (with power off). Was turned on at 7AM, it is now 11am, and am at 90%.
I do not use GPS, have nothing running, no emails or social networking status updates.. The phone is on standby on my desk. I only do a few text messages and 5 minutes of voice calls / day.
So this means I get 40hrs of standby time? That is a little ridiculous.
I chatted with AT&T tech support and they said that the AT&T stores don't have battery replacements yet, but I could get a full phone replacement since I am within the 30 days still.
But from what I am hearing, it seems most people are having the same issue if not worse, correct?
I really don't want to set everything back up AGAIN. I am coming from using a Samsung Eternity - understand it isn't a true "smartphone" - but I use it the same, and would easily go 3-4 days without needing a charge.
with GPS off, wifi off, BT off, no data sync or background data turned on, i charge it fully at night -
last 3 nights in a row, at midnight it was showing 100% and at 7:30AM it would show 97-98% remaining, and that was using the alarm, set to loud and probably ran 2 minutes before i'd hit the off button
From 7:30am-11am, I have used 4% of my battery. I have these things going on:
-Exchange sync (real time)
-Facebook sync (once every hour)
-wireless off, bluetooth off, GPS not being utilized
-Weather.com and a Google search widget
The battery use shows this:
-Cell standby: 48%
-Phone idle: 36%
-Display: 8%
-Android System: 3%
-Email: 3%
-Android OS: 2%
I've barely used my phone this morning, so I'd think 4% of use in 3.5 hours is quite acceptable. It sounds like you need to make some modifications to improve your performance.
firehazard - what modifications have you done? I have wifi/bt off, background data off, no email syncing - display brightness all the way down..
To anyone who is having very poor battery life, I suggest a factory data reset when you exhaust other options. My phone wasn't lasting me more than about 8 hours on a full charge, with light to moderate usage. After a factory reset, I just ran nearly 24 hours with similar usage.
I can't tell you what changed or what got removed, maybe it was an app that was running and draining the battery that I didn't see, but battery life is MUCH better now. Hell, everything is running much better, even the GPS.
I went from wanting to throw this phone at a wall and return it for my iPhone 4 again, to loving it in less than 24 hours.
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firehazard - what modifications have you done? I have wifi/bt off, background data off, no email syncing - display brightness all the way down..
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I'm referring to him running wifi and bluetooth when he's not even using his phone. Stuff like that.
Just for recording keeping, when a phone company says their phone can last XXXHours in Standby this means, that all wireless transmitters are off. this means (for the most part) airplane mode, with bluetooth, and wifi OFF.
these continuous wireless transmitters are why you didnt get the 200Hours or what ever it is in standby mode.
I recently took my phone back to BestBuy for a replacement since my battery was trying to kill itself overnight as well. I did the full charge when I first got it and purposely ran the battery down to quickly get it to turn itself off at 0%. Did a full recharge and repeated this process about 3 times and last night my battery only went down 3% over 6 hours. Compared to the 30-40% that was draining before, I'd say the full discharge/full recharge works that people have been talking about in the battery threads works. Thanks, everyone! I use Y5 to have it automatically connect to my WiFi at home when it's in range. Not much more than the usual was left to sync (although JuiceDefender may be working to turn stuff off when my screen is off) such as Gmail, Beautiful widgets, facebook, and one rss feed.
Either that or I had a crappy battery before
Seems like some folks are having the same problem as me, while others are having much better results. Firehazard's situation and drain while not in use is pretty much in line with my expectations of the phone. With my old Tilt 2, I left WiFi and Bluetooth on all the time and still got great standby time out of the phone. When those connections weren't in use, they weren't really draining my battery in any way. I'm going to try to disable them though and see if that helps. I'll also try to monitor the battery usage screen and see how much power is going to wifi and bluetooth when I have them on.
I've been suspicious of my battery as well, tracking it casually today.
Took it off the charger approx 8:30am, immediately went to 99%.
Watching it over the last hour it appears to be losing 1% / 10 minutes.
Running services:
SnsService
GTalkService
DMService (Device management)
Swype
TransactionService (Messaging)
org.npr.android.news (NPR)
Battery Widget
Dictionary.com (word of the day widget)
JuiceDefender
Android Core Apps
Google Voice
Cached Applications:
AppBrain
AT&T Nav
Calendar
com.sec.android.providers.downloads
Daily Briefing
LogsProvider
My Uploads
Phone
Samsung account
Wapedia
Just using it for the past 5 minutes to write up everything running has dropped the battery almost 3%. Albeit I have terrible cell coverage where I am. It does seem that the cell and wifi receivers are a bit weak, or the meters are biased conservatively.
*edit* I want to be clear that I love this phone, I just want to try and find out what and if certain services/applications drain the battery and if not then if I have a bad battery.
Okay, so I turned OFF bluetooth and WiFi and checked the battery before bed and right when I woke up. This time, I lost 24% over 8 hours. Certainly a big improvement over 33% in 7 hours, but also no where near where my old Tilt 2 was. I would lose 2-3% overnight at the most with that phone. I checked the battery meter and the majority of the battery went to Cell Standby and Phone Idle. Those don't seem like things that can be avoided through tweaking. I was in an area with 3 bars of service (same as night before), so I don't think that was an issue.
I'm debating whether or not I should try a factory data reset. Some folks reported good results with that. I really don't feel like reconfiguring my whole device if there isn't a good chance for improvement. Maybe the GPS fix that's coming will help battery life?
Have you tried reconditioning the battery? That would be the charging/discharching cycles mentioned throughout the forum?
I have done it and my phone has been on standby for more than 24 hours and I am still at 50% battery. It's just had very light usage. Wifi on for about an hour, snapping a few pics, deleting some others. A bit of calc usage. When I first got it, my battery was dismal.
Mine hasn't been modded one bit yet, just installed some apps from the market and a weather widget.
Yes, tried that. It actually helped a little but I'm still getting poor results compared to some.
I have another theory/question. I use gmail as my only email account on my phone. Its set up through the system and it syncs to the gmail application on the phone. I also have it set up in the Samsung default email client (which I prefer). Am I wasting battery because the two apps are checking mail independently? Does the gmail account sync while the Samsung one checks at intervals (I have mine set to 1 hr)?
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Yes, tried that. It actually helped a little but I'm still getting poor results compared to some.
I have another theory/question. I use gmail as my only email account on my phone. Its set up through the system and it syncs to the gmail application on the phone. I also have it set up in the Samsung default email client (which I prefer). Am I wasting battery because the two apps are checking mail independently? Does the gmail account sync while the Samsung one checks at intervals (I have mine set to 1 hr)?
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probably.
follow battery optimization guide in pimp my captivate.pdf thread. I get 1-2% battery consumption per hour with moderate to light usage.
heavy usage drops my battery about 4-5% per hour. By heavy usage I mean playing 3D games for hours str8
I've been using HTC Desire s just for 1 week, it's good device but can't use a day after full change morning. I hate the battery life iphone but it is worse. Do you know how to get the battery life better this HTC Desire s ?
I've done 2 things like below.
1. 10 Tips for saving HTC Desire
2. Once full charge after battery dead(100% consumption)
Any better idea ? Thanks in advance.
I can't put the link for gadget 10 tips link due to 1st posting...
Same to me. 30 hours is max. This is not very good....
I also have the same as if I leave my desire S in stand by for 6 hours it loss 50% of charging and I sure that everything are closed (Wi Fi , Bluetooth , GPS , data connection , Application) so pls can anyone advise if this is special problem on my phone or it's generally in all Desire S
I find the battery quite good actually.... I normally charge it over night and have at least 25% left, normally towards 50 depending on how much angry birds i played
I have WiFi or 3g enabled, no gps or bt
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Perhaps you can install battery monitor to find the cause...
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I'm getting around 30 hours before my nerve goes and I charge it up again at about 25%, but I'm still using the phone quite a bit more than the dumb-phones I've had in the past.
Check: Settings > About phone > Battery > Battery use
Essential apps:
Battery Monitor Widget
Power Monitor Widget
Screen Filter
I have the screen set to auto brightness, but use Screen Filter to reduce the overall brightness to (say) 50% outdoors, 35% indoors, and 25% in the evening.
I find the biggest drain on the battery is the display, but maybe that's because I've reduced a lot of the syncing.
In "Accounts & sync", I've disabled syncing for most things, especially HTC Sense; Weather widget updates every 3 hours, other things every hour or so.
WiFi is usually off, though even when it's on, it doesn't drain the battery much.
I get the worst battery drain when playing games or watching video, especially with the brightness turned up.
GPS is enabled, but rarely in use. 3G coverage near me is poor, so I'm usually on 2G only.
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Try these:
-wifi settings advanced setting for sleep after 15mins
-usb debugging on
-cancel auto sync OR sync frequency for all those things that like synching all time
-change email sync (default is every hour)
-change weather update
-turn off gps
-screen sleep quicker
there are some apps which are poorly put together and can drain battery, i had problem with android market fault and had to reinstall it, also 3g watchdog had an issue before
the desire s battery is better than most android phones, certainly one of the best compared to other htc phones so battery life shouldnt be an issue..
I get two days use. I consider myself an average user. Calls, sms and internet browsing.
kshinkr said:
I've been using HTC Desire s just for 1 week, it's good device but can't use a day after full change morning. I hate the battery life iphone but it is worse. Do you know how to get the battery life better this HTC Desire s ?
I've done 2 things like below.
1. 10 Tips for saving HTC Desire
2. Once full charge after battery dead(100% consumption)
Any better idea ? Thanks in advance.
I can't put the link for gadget 10 tips link due to 1st posting...
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turn your brightness down Switch off your data when not needed... use task killers? (not sure about task killers for android)
njd said:
I'm getting around 30 hours before my nerve goes and I charge it up again at about 25%, but I'm still using the phone quite a bit more than the dumb-phones I've had in the past.
Check: Settings > About phone > Battery > Battery use
Essential apps:
Battery Monitor Widget
Power Monitor Widget
Screen Filter
I have the screen set to auto brightness, but use Screen Filter to reduce the overall brightness to (say) 50% outdoors, 35% indoors, and 25% in the evening.
I find the biggest drain on the battery is the display, but maybe that's because I've reduced a lot of the syncing.
In "Accounts & sync", I've disabled syncing for most things, especially HTC Sense; Weather widget updates every 3 hours, other things every hour or so.
WiFi is usually off, though even when it's on, it doesn't drain the battery much.
I get the worst battery drain when playing games or watching video, especially with the brightness turned up.
GPS is enabled, but rarely in use. 3G coverage near me is poor, so I'm usually on 2G only.
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Don't use Screen Filter unless your intention is to reduce glare when using your phone in darkness. It will not save you any power if you are using an LCD display. and
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If all you do most of the time is idling, it should last a couple of days.
My experiences:
I always using all features in mobiles such as localisation, 3G, wifi, synchronization always on. I'm doing this because phone is for me/I am not for phone
Some stats on Desire S:
-wifi only(mobile network off) 60 min of video, 10 mins voice calls, few text, few emails, few webpages 50% screen brightness
result: 27 hours
-wifi off(mobile network on) 60 min of video, 10 mins voice calls, few text, few emails, few webpages, 50% screen brightness
result: 22 hours!!!
Cmon HTC, this are very bad stat!
Anyone know is that good stats? Please don't tell me to switch off this and that...If We will be thinking in this way maybe we just put mobile on air plane mode, set birightness to 20% and then We will get around 40 hours.
Do You think, that custom roms can help with it?
regards
Just curious. Did any of you do the battery calibration thingy?
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Just curious. Did any of you do the battery calibration thingy?
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Of course I did. I always doing calibration even if now is not necessary...
I have WiFi, BlueTooth, 3G on all the time. Sync on and the device is in background alone collection app. 3MB of data.
If I don't use the phone, then it uses app. 15-20% of battery a day.
I can use the phone app. 5-6 hours a day for browsing, install programs etc.
I thing that is a full days use.
I have turned off auto brightness, as I don't think it is working. In normal day light I set the light to 50% which is nice for the eyes. (Auto mode goes to almost 100% all the time, which uses more power.)
/Michael
Has happened twice now; When I stop using the phone and go to bed, I've got 33% battery left. Wake up in the AM and look at my phone, the battery is down to 13%! What the heck is it doing at night? I don't use 3G/4G networks at all, they're disabled. Wi-fi is on at all times, but sync settings are on only for Gmail, FB and Contacts....... Strange!
Could it be the flashing LED-light, that shows I've got new mail/messages?
i have 100% battery when i'm going sleep. On wake au battery is minus ~35-40%
no 3/4g, no WiFi
about 100 apps installed.
from here about 20 apps always trying to go in running processes. things like maps facebook mail.... it drives me crazy
try to watch battery graphs,
I'm sure you know about advanced task killer, Android System Info, System Panel Lite apps... with 'em yu can track phone activity... applicatio call, usage, battery graphs, .....
maybe you have some custom ROM like Revolution HD which is overclocking your CPU and GPU
Hi,
I have a HTC Sensation, not rooted. I use an 1900mah battery based on xda and other forum experiences, and it is better than the original but I still have problems. I use battery mix app for monitoring the battery use and usually it says CSPEOPLESYNCSERVICE is using the battery, always at least for 45%! If I unplug the device from the charger at around 8 o'clock, at the afternoon at 4-5,it's around 45-50%. The usage is basically 30 min music, 10-15min gaming, 20min browsing and approximately 20 min of voice calls and a few messages on whatsapp. I have unticked the sync for all the contacs( fb, skype, whatsapp, gmail etc) but when I check the battery usage in battery usage it still shows CSPEOPLESYNCSERVICE is using my battery mostly. If I check basic android battery usage it just shows mostly the display uses it. I have searched a lot about this problem but nothing found. I don't use anything special, I don't use appkiller, antivirus or any app that could run in the background. In my opinion it's not normal, thsi way my 1900mah battery with normal usage ( during the day I work, and not really using my phone like gaming or etc) lasts for 12-14 hours.
Thanks
Your battery life will improve if you set your network mode to "CDMA Only" rather than "GSM/CDMA Auto", because it forces your phone to stick to one network instead of searching for others.
Your battery life will also improve if you use a low-med static brightness setting rather than auto-brightness, since your phone will not be using its sensor to detect the background lighting.
It will improve further if you use an app that controls your network usage such as Green Power Premium which controls when your network should be on and off. Also it has a great feature that makes your phone to sync when network is on, rather than most battery apps that just turn on network pointlessly waiting for phone to sync itself.
Hope this helps =)
I'm almost brand new to flashing kernels and other things to my Android device so I have a question.
I'm on I9020T's official ota version of ICS on my I9020A with the AT&T radio flashed. The battery life has been very poor and I have stumbled across the Glados 2.1 kernel.
Now, my question is, after I flash this, are there any apps that need to be installed or will I start to see battery improvement immediately?
Thanks.
Battery life does not rest on the kernel. Although many kernels boast improved battery life, performance and features (which is almost entirely true), my money says you have different problems going on. No apps need to be installed, but NSTools will give you access to just about all of the extra features.
Describe how your battery life is at the moment so we can help you more, since i assume this is the main issue here.
I charged my phone to full (around 96% or so is the max I think) and looking at the battery stats, it has been on battery for 1h 31m and is now at 86%. And this was with almost zero use. I made one Google Wallet purchase and that's really it.
battery has always been a problem to nexus..switch your 3g to 2g when not in use should help the battery...
Could you also describe what kind of settings you have (email syncing, autosync, talk, wifi, data, etc). Email, for example, uses data and holds a wakelock every so many minutes. With a slow network this could cause the phone to be awake for enough time to noticeably drain the battery. GMail, on the other hand, uses Push Notifications and doesn't use any battery at all - google will contact you when you receive an Email and only then notify you.
It's not extreme drain so it is probably some kind of syncing, or maybe a wifi wakelock or something. Steady, faster-than-normal drain while phone should be sleeping. Better Battery Stats (can be found on XDA) may shed some light if something is keeping the phone awake for noticeable time periods.
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Could you also describe what kind of settings you have (email syncing, autosync, talk, wifi, data, etc). Email, for example, uses data and holds a wakelock every so many minutes. With a slow network this could cause the phone to be awake for enough time to noticeably drain the battery. GMail, on the other hand, uses Push Notifications and doesn't use any battery at all - google will contact you when you receive an Email and only then notify you.
It's not extreme drain so it is probably some kind of syncing, or maybe a wifi wakelock or something. Steady, faster-than-normal drain while phone should be sleeping. Better Battery Stats (can be found on XDA) may shed some light if something is keeping the phone awake for noticeable time periods.
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I don't use Gmail since I have two email accounts that I want to access. I have the Email app refreshing every hour. I don't sync anything else, I have all Google sync turned off except Calendar.