[Q] Making your phone lie? - General Questions and Answers

Hey there, so I have a fairly generic question to ask. I've searched but I don't think anyone's brought this up before. So, I have AT&T and am eager to get a smartphone. Preferably something android, however the requirement for the monthly data plan fee makes it a bit beyond my reach. My question is this, could you use a ROM to make a phone lie about it's identity? I'm unsure how the carrier knows exactly, but I put my SIM card in a WM 6.5 phone a few months back and I received a text message saying my plan was instantly upgraded. My thought is if perhaps two phones, one Symbian, non-smartphone, and one smartphone use similar radios perhaps something could be modified to make the latter seem like the former?

nameback said:
Hey there, so I have a fairly generic question to ask. I've searched but I don't think anyone's brought this up before. So, I have AT&T and am eager to get a smartphone. Preferably something android, however the requirement for the monthly data plan fee makes it a bit beyond my reach. My question is this, could you use a ROM to make a phone lie about it's identity? I'm unsure how the carrier knows exactly, but I put my SIM card in a WM 6.5 phone a few months back and I received a text message saying my plan was instantly upgraded. My thought is if perhaps two phones, one Symbian, non-smartphone, and one smartphone use similar radios perhaps something could be modified to make the latter seem like the former?
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ATT does random IMEI checks. There is no way around it.

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How to Change HTC TYTN II imei?

Hi all,
I really need to change my HTC TYTN II imei. Can anyone help me on this? Is there any software I can get from this forum to change my imei myself? Hope you all can guide me on this.
Changing your IMEI is seriously illegal in several countries.
proevoguy said:
Hi all,
I really need to change my HTC TYTN II imei. Can anyone help me on this? Is there any software I can get from this forum to change my imei myself? Hope you all can guide me on this.
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Why you want to change imei,did you steal it,and you dont want the oparator tracking you.to change imei is ilegal.
Anything in this forum/site that is deemed illegal such as software or hacks will get you banned and the thread removed. Do you understand what the IMEI is used for? I can see if your device got hacked as many places such as Brazil had this problem with the TDMA/CDMA network. GSM is more secure but still not perfect. If you think you got hacked then loose the device and talk to your service provider right away as changing the International Mobile Equipment Identity will not help!
If you are on GSM and use a SIM card, most all wireless providers will not require you to register your IMEI. How many iPhones are in Canada on the Rogers network? And has Rogers nailed anyone for having one? Your SIM is what GSM networks use to ID you and your usage, not the phone. I would not be using an AT&T Tilt if IMEI would black list me from my provider and force me to use one of their (somewhat) outdated and poor selection of full featured phones...
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digitalfreeze said:
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I see an old NES Conrta fan here
I tried that and I still don't have unlimited lives.. er,... minutes on my phone
ya, still play it now and then. I was hoping someone would try this on their phone then post that's it's not working for them.
Which I then would have replied
you must first downgrade your rom to windows mobile 4.9
then upgrade your radio to version 1.66
remove your battery
reinsert your battery
try the code again
..hehe jokes
digitalfreeze said:
ya, still play it now and then. I was hoping someone would try this on their phone then post that's it's not working for them.
Which I then would have replied
you must first downgrade your rom to windows mobile 4.9
then upgrade your radio to version 1.66
remove your battery
reinsert your battery
try the code again
..hehe
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Dam that worked.
thx for the new imei
somerandomname said:
Dam that worked.
thx for the new imei
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it wont work if you haven't unlocked first!!!
proevoguy, u must install hardSPL first
after that you must downgrade to WinMobile 4.7
, then search registry for IMEI
if you haven't install hardSPL, the key is hidden
mmm why is this thread is not locked??
lol
People want to change imei doesn't mean he/she is using a stolen phone. I want to change my imei just because I don't want AT&T to know I am using a PDA phone w/ their non-pda data plan
jackleung said:
People want to change imei doesn't mean he/she is using a stolen phone. I want to change my imei just because I don't want AT&T to know I am using a PDA phone w/ their non-pda data plan
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I was actually want the same thing because AT&t's plan for this phone is like 64.99 a month, which is just outrageous.
for those that care, i used an 8525 for 7 months before it broke and att never said a word about the fact that i didn't have a pda plan, when i took the phone in they asked if i wanted to register my new phone with them without changing my plan and it didn't cost me a dime, i was previously on a nokia 6030i as far as they knew
tubaking182 said:
for those that care, i used an 8525 for 7 months before it broke and att never said a word about the fact that i didn't have a pda plan, when i took the phone in they asked if i wanted to register my new phone with them without changing my plan and it didn't cost me a dime, i was previously on a nokia 6030i as far as they knew
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Same for me and Rogers. They had the Motorola 320, and Nokia 6820b in their database. Those 2 I got for next to nothing as I renewed my plan both times. The phone after those, I bought direct from HP as I was outsourced by them and got a good discount when buying the HW6955 (HTC Sable) through them and not Rogers (kept my old plan and the phone was factory unlocked too). Next is my current phone: AT&T Tilt, again bought the phone from some place other than Rogers and kept my old plan. If you got the phone for free or discounted, you will be forced into a new plan and the plan will always match the type of your phone. That is why you never buy from your cellphone provider. My 3 dollar internet plan I added long ago, only covered text based sites which matched my very old Motorola 320 So I axed that 3 dollar service from my plan. The guy was surprised to find out the last 2 phones were not on his list With what our providers have to offer for phones, Canada is way behind everyone else (can you say September for iPhone? And that is a maybe). Rogers added Tytn to their fleet of phones when everyone else was getting ready for the TyTN II. They still offer the original TyTn and still no plans for a Kaiser. We will get the Diamond but only after the rest of the world has warn them out. So in short: buy your phone in full and avoid a contract renewal. In the long run, you will still save money and avoid being put in their database.
yeah. It is very slow in Canada. However, I phoned Fido for their additional $7 dollars all you can browse service plan, it is required to registered your IMEI with Fido. Or I should said it this way, Fido only allows the IMEI on their list to sign up for that plan. That means without changing the IMEI, you are not eligible for that plan. I know some of the people change the IMEI on their Iphone just to use that data plan.
well the poster should
explain why they want to change their IMEI no reason just makes it all seem aloof to me!
jackleung said:
People want to change imei doesn't mean he/she is using a stolen phone. I want to change my imei just because I don't want AT&T to know I am using a PDA phone w/ their non-pda data plan
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And that is not "stealing" how?
I have often wondered - I think that it is the RIAA that made it illegal to "break copy protection schemes" - in other words to remove code that was designed to protect a program or music or software. In this forum we "remove" bits that keep us from installing ROMs - technically this would put us in violation of this?
We get away with it because?
1. it is our purchased phone and we can do with it what we want?
2. we don't sell the software that we make (ROMS)
I am pretty sure that is we change the IMEI numbers and enable someone to hurt provider's revenue stream that this will be the straw that breaks the camels back and they will go after the culprits.
My two bits worth...
proevoguy - the forum will generally not discuss IMEI changing as it is highly illegal in most countries. Please search for "get you sore" for some info on why most people won't assist you on this. Personally I'm not against the technical discussion of IMEI changing, but as it is such a dangerous subject, it's best not to touch it.
I'm going to lock the thread, but leave it visible, so if anyone wants to help you privately they can. Just don't forget to lube up first if you get caught with an IMEI changed phone.
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Super Sim Clone and others

I have searched thru these forums trying an many combo's as I could think of and couldn't find it so hopefully this isnt a repeat set of questions.
-In the Bourne Supremacy, Jason Bourne makes a copy of somebody's sim card which allowed his phone to be on the same call as that person at the same time. All the references I can find to sim cloning state that the second phone must be switched off (or it causes some kind of problem?). So is there any such way to do that with GSM? The only reason I ask is because I work for a CDMA service provider, at sometimes during an ESN swap/upgrade the system will not release the old ESN. The result seems to be that both phones ring at the same time (Though only one can answer). Basically can it be done or is it movie magic?
-During my searches I saw many results for IMEI cloning. Im not sure if I understand why you would want to do this. Some ppl wanted to trick a service provider into giving them service, and I guess some wanted to use a phone that had been banned on a network(?). But really other than using a stolen or banned phone, whats the reason for the popularity of this issue?
-Also I unlock every phone I get, and it looks like there are many US AT&T users here that use or need unlock software. AT&T's general policy nowadays is that they will supply you with the codes for no charge. Just call in and say you bought the phone and will not be using their service. Basically no question asked. Tmobile will give you the code after 90 days with active service, and might give you the code if you arent planning on using their service. So is there another reason for unlocking the phones thru software as opposed to just getting the code? (Is it better, does it do more for you?)
And not a question but a huge, THANK YOU SO MUCH to all of you guys for doing what you do. VP3G's 8525 ROM is awesome (^_^)y
No
in regards to the sim, NO

Question about Verizon service/plans

*Mods, please move if there is a better place. I normally hang out on the development forums so I'm not exactly sure where to post*
I have a phone that I bought from Verizon and I have kept the unlimited data. I know all about my phone but next to nothing about my service.
My question is specifically about phablets (for example, this) which is basically a big ass phone, or a tablet with cell service, however you want to word it. I'd use it exclusively with bluetooth instead of holding the thing up to my head, don't worry.
I travel internationally and see them A LOT in other countries (they cannot help me though since I need one to use in the US). I am under the impression that VZ will not activate anything I did not buy from them. I don't know how solid this is but every VZ employee I have asked has confirmed this so far. I know in the past that it used to be as simple as switching out the SIM card but doubt this is still the case.
I'm sure there are some hardware specs that I need to look at that would determine the LTE/3G whatever compatibility, but I don't know the terminology. Can you help me out?
Also, I am hesitant to leave VZ because of the unlimited data and the service coverage. I live in mildly populated CT, USA and would welcome a prepaid plan if it was comparable but don't even know where to begin looking.
Thank you in advance - I really don't have anyone else to ask about this stuff.
You will want to look for international versions of the devices you are looking for. These versions carry multiple antennas that allows them to be used in different countries. As far as I know, these phones use SIM cards, which allows you to purchase an international SIM or a SIM in the country you are in, and it should work when you plug it into your device.
Is there a way to check for the antennas in the specifications instead of relying on the seller to accurately sell me the int'l version? How would you go about buying a SIM card?

[Q] Questions about No-Contract phones and using them without carrier

Hello, everyone. Thanks for having me.
I'm interested in acquiring some cellphones. I live outside the U.S, and I just want the phones for multimedia, internet and apps related usages, so I don't really need any carriers for the phones, not even in my country, that's why I find these No-Contract offers very good budget-wise.
But then there surge some questions,
*Are these No-Contract phones locked so you can't use them without activating them with a carrier? I mean, maybe something like not going past the start screen if they don't have a valid sim card on, or requiring one-time-activation or something?
*Can I use wi-fi with them with them, or is it subjected to activation with the carrier?
*What about rooting? Are the carriers selling the phones relative to the rooting/ jailbreaking process?
I know my questions might be noobish, but I'm just making sure before buying. You see, I've seen questions like these on Amazon with different answers, which has led me to this confusion and lack of assurance. I myself own (and even jailbroke) a phone from another country I use without carrier, though there are still specifics I'm not sure about yet.
Thanks in advance.
Android 5.1 offers an option to bypass SIM activation for sure ^^
I think it can be bypassed even on stock software!

Can Verizon (or any other carrier) know what my device is?

Hi all. I guess, this question is more about the hardware rather than a particular provider. Let me begin with its origins.
I am a member of a Verizon family plan, and I am the only member who owns a smartphone (Verizon S5 - G900V(B)) - others have much simpler devices. We have few gigs of data in our plan. At some point I realised that I don't need data any longer, and we decided to remove the data from the plan (downgrade).
But Verizon does not let us to do so. Their motivation is that they have a policy saying that since I have a smartphone, we are obliged to have a plan with data. However (!!!), they say that if I buy a simple used phone myself (like LG Terra - which supports 4G, but is not considered by them as a smartphone), they will allow us to switch to a plan without data.
Now, my question is very simple. How will they know if I have changed the phone? What if, after changing it, I just put my SIM card back into my smartphone? I can hardly believe they will switch us back to the plan with data...
Basically, the question reduces into two:
Is SIM card sending information about the device model to the carrier?
Can they use this information to change the plan?
As you may guess, my intent is to call Verizon and to say that I have already changed my device to this damn LG Terra, and to ask them to change the plan.
Thanks. Sorry if the question does not fit the forum, just don't know where else to ask.
mavzolej said:
Hi all. I guess, this question is more about the hardware rather than a particular provider. Let me begin with its origins.
I am a member of a Verizon family plan, and I am the only member who owns a smartphone (Verizon S5 - G900V(B)) - others have much simpler devices. We have few gigs of data in our plan. At some point I realised that I don't need data any longer, and we decided to remove the data from the plan (downgrade).
But Verizon does not let us to do so. Their motivation is that they have a policy saying that since I have a smartphone, we are obliged to have a plan with data. However (!!!), they say that if I buy a simple used phone myself (like LG Terra - which supports 4G, but is not considered by them as a smartphone), they will allow us to switch to a plan without data.
Now, my question is very simple. How will they know if I have changed the phone? What if, after changing it, I just put my SIM card back into my smartphone? I can hardly believe they will switch us back to the plan with data...
Basically, the question reduces into two:
Is SIM card sending information about the device model to the carrier?
Can they use this information to change the plan?
As you may guess, my intent is to call Verizon and to say that I have already changed my device to this damn LG Terra, and to ask them to change the plan.
Thanks. Sorry if the question does not fit the forum, just don't know where else to ask.
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