Hi,
I followed this thread Chroot Ubuntu and installed ubuntu
As other guys, some application won't launch or crash under gnome
On the OP, people talk about memory limit of 32M per app on android, but for example the system monitor is a small app that consumes less than 4M and it won't launch...
Unfortunately, i cannot post on the OP (too few posts for me, cannot post on dev section), so i give what i found here (maybe a gentle admin will move the thread )
So
I installed lxde from terminal, and switched to lxde :
# apt-get install lxde
# update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
(i chose "start lxde")
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reboot the TF, restart chroot ubuntu, vncserver, then connect, i got the lxde x env, and guess what ?
system monitor works, update manager, synaptic package manager, etc...
Don't know if it's because it's a lighter interface, but it does the trick !
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Some things still don't seem to load properly even on lxde , such as chromium, but it seems to be an improvement.
Probably should check for issues involving shared memory and X extensions. Remember, it is not quite the current X.Org you're running.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Thanks for that trick!, but I can run more than 4-5 apps in chroot Ubuntu (not at the same time). I open Firefox, close it, open OpenOffice Writer, close it, open Gedit, close it, open LXTerminal and closeit. After doing this, I'm unable to start other app
tisi1988 said:
Thanks for that trick!, but I can run more than 4-5 apps in chroot Ubuntu (not at the same time). I open Firefox, close it, open OpenOffice Writer, close it, open Gedit, close it, open LXTerminal and closeit. After doing this, I'm unable to start other app
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That's pretty strange, i made a few tests on mine
I can run at the same time Firefox, LXterminal, Gedit, Synaptic package manager, system monitor, movie player...
Close them, reopen Firefox etc
But Zoho web applis don't start at all for example.
Spidey01 said:
Probably should check for issues involving shared memory and X extensions. Remember, it is not quite the current X.Org you're running.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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Thanks for the info
I wonder if we can run another distro, ubuntu 11.10 for example, via chroot ?
I noticed that the swap is disabled in the kernel used in the root.fs image, which could maybe help the memory management
Depending on how much work you want to do you can run any distro that supports the processor architecture. I use Debian stable because it seems to have a lot more debs available than Ubuntu, when you have ARM instead of x86 crud .
From talk I believe Ubuntu will eventually be a great choice, perhaps even as a total replacement or dual boot, but the TF101 may look like a G1 or original Droid by then.
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ID6548437 said:
That's pretty strange, i made a few tests on mine
I can run at the same time Firefox, LXterminal, Gedit, Synaptic package manager, system monitor, movie player...
Close them, reopen Firefox etc
But Zoho web applis don't start at all for example.
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I was not so lucky. I can only run one app at a time as well. Maybe there's a difference in how we're set up?
Spidey01 said:
Depending on how much work you want to do you can run any distro that supports the processor architecture. I use Debian stable because it seems to have a lot more debs available than Ubuntu, when you have ARM instead of x86 crud .
From talk I believe Ubuntu will eventually be a great choice, perhaps even as a total replacement or dual boot, but the TF101 may look like a G1 or original Droid by then.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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I just want to run p2p client to download tv series
Not a lot of stuff
I will take a look at Debian
Thanks
livinsacrfice said:
I was not so lucky. I can only run one app at a time as well. Maybe there's a difference in how we're set up?
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I made very minor changes to the initial config, i just removed a few app from the menu "Preferences > Desktop session settings"
I just left :
Wicd network manager tray
SSH key agent
Certificate and key storage
Secret storage device
I unchecked all others
And that's all i did, i believe
But i run UltraVNC client from my win xp, what about you ?
oh, I was using the VNC client on the TF101. When I connected from a different machine, I was able to load multiple apps at a time.
Nvidia is pretty good about releasing drivers for their x86 graphics hardware. Have they not released drivers for the transformer geforce that we still have to use vnc servers instead of x.org?
Is there really no way to run x.org on the transformer? That would totally take away the need to use nvflash and deal with partitioning etc....
If we could just chroot and startx right from there and at the same time kill the apk stuff
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I'm trying to get a window manager running under Debian. I'm using Xvfb and x11vnc. So far I've gotten the server up and running but I get a socket error on my vnc viewer after negotiating protocol. Anyone want to help?
Well, the clean way to display a X client on the phone would be IMHO to implement an x server in a windows. kind of like xming or xephyr. Too bad I don't know java
Anyway, using vnc looks like a smart idea. I worry about the performance, though.
I'll give it a try once I have re-installed debian on my ADP1 (trying to install it in a dedicated partition on the sd)
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I'm trying to get a window manager running under Debian. I'm using Xvfb and x11vnc. So far I've gotten the server up and running but I get a socket error on my vnc viewer after negotiating protocol. Anyone want to help?
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Use X over SSH. Man I'll just write up a post.
I think he's trying to achieve X display on the phone, not on his computer.
Yes, I'm trying to get the display on the phone, not having to really on tunneling x11 over ssh.
I'm running a similar setup on my phone, in order to run X apps like xpdf. Works fine. Here's what you need:
In your debian chroot, apt-get install tightvncserver, and run it.
On the android side, run the android VNC viewer and connect to localhost:1 (or whatever display tightvncserver started). You'll get X on your screen.
You can apt-get and run a small window manager like twm if you need one. I generally use it without a window manager, with apps running in full-screen mode. For example, "xpdf -g 1024x768+0+0 some-file.pdf" to view a PDF. (at least until there's a decent PDF viewer for android).
Don't bother trying OpenOffice on it though. Too heavy - I actually tried it.
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I'm running a similar setup on my phone, in order to run X apps like xpdf. Works fine. Here's what you need:
In your debian chroot, apt-get install tightvncserver, and run it.
On the android side, run the android VNC viewer and connect to localhost:1 (or whatever display tightvncserver started). You'll get X on your screen.
You can apt-get and run a small window manager like twm if you need one. I generally use it without a window manager, with apps running in full-screen mode. For example, "xpdf -g 1024x768+0+0 some-file.pdf" to view a PDF. (at least until there's a decent PDF viewer for android).
Don't bother trying OpenOffice on it though. Too heavy - I actually tried it.
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Are you telling me you got to run x app on the phone?
Yep, that's what I wrote. It was one of the first things I installed on the phone when I bought it. And performance is not as bad as I expected, as long as you don't try to run animation. Reasonable for reading a pdf.
Has anyone else tried this?
I cannot connect with android vnc viewer from my phone and tightvnc server running on debian showing "localhost:/#".
I am not using a password. I am trying to log in on vnc-viewer at 127.0.0.1 and have tried several ports including the default and 23.
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Yep, that's what I wrote. It was one of the first things I installed on the phone when I bought it. And performance is not as bad as I expected, as long as you don't try to run animation. Reasonable for reading a pdf.
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Will i be abkle to run pidgin?
when i try to run vncserver it tells me that the USER envirioment variable i snot set
For the user variable error.Type su Again by itself before you start vnc. It has to do with now having set user in the enviroment set. I have an image that give you 2 gigs more of free space (uses up storage card) the current one only has 300megs free which limits you drastically and also a fixed script that you won't have to go into su again....
For the guys that can't get vnc working type localhost in the server field only and as for port use 5901... Use a password upon initial setup of vnc. Sorry about spekking errors but I'm half drunk and typing on g1
Okay I set up the password and stuff but when I go to the vnc viewer on the phone it does nto conect and the crash
When I go to vnc-viewer, I can log in but the window I get says--
Xsession:unable to start x session ---- no "/root/.xsession" ...no session managers,
Can someone please help me get this runing, my messenger is [email protected]
Okay I finally got it to run and get a grey screen, when i go t back to termina it is on android terminal not debian so I log back.
Now how to I run pidgin after I install it? just type pidgin?
I finally got pidgin runing!!!!
Rafase282 said:
I finally got pidgin runing!!!!
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Now *that* would be a good reason to do this
JesusFreke said:
Now *that* would be a good reason to do this
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I warn you it will be slow and still cant use the sub functions of the buttons form the keyboard to at least I don't know how. I'm trying to take a screenshot with the program from the windows manager, and i use twm
Okay I have tried with twm, vtwm, and icewm
So far I like icewm the most but still have vtwm for back up. It runs fine not as slow as before with twm. I have pidgin runing but still cant figure out how to run the screenshot program that comes with debian.
Can anyone tell me a way to get a screenshot in command line so I can show you the screen and prove that it works?
Hey everybody. I am not really a linux guy. I can get around and do a few things but thats it. I know however that installing a wm into debian for android is senseless. I do however want to know what everybody has gotten up and running on their debian. I dont really have anything. I tried installing dosbox but then it needed sdl. After installing sdl it said it couldnt find dev/fb0. Framebuffer. Ok. Well I assume that means it needs a vid driver so whatever. Anyway, what else are we running on this? Need some new ideas for apps to install. And if anyone can figure out how to get a dosbox type app running please let me know. Or even zork. That shouldnt be too hard right?
Chuck
First thign I did was:
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install python
That's all I have used it for so far. python for my coming college classes. I don't know what else I would use it for without the Xs
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First thign I did was:
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install python
That's all I have used it for so far. python for my coming college classes. I don't know what else I would use it for without the Xs
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You can install X on your phone. I have a Windows PC running Xming and run emacs xterm and other such stuff to manage my phone. It's very handy.
The annoying part is that DISPLAY is defaulted to localhost:10.0. The phone can't resolve localhost to 127.0.0.1. So you need to do "export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:10.0" to make X work.
I installed python,vlc,w3m,x,emacs, and of course openssh.
Vlc of course does not work currently of course
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You can install X on your phone. I have a Windows PC running Xming and run emacs xterm and other such stuff to manage my phone. It's very handy.
The annoying part is that DISPLAY is defaulted to localhost:10.0. The phone can't resolve localhost to 127.0.0.1. So you need to do "export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:10.0" to make X work.
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Do you have both the server and client on the phone itself?
Help Plz
I got Debian running and installed couple apps, But i don't know how to make it runs. What command do i need? or what do i need to do to run apps ? Thanks
im in the same boat as the op. i tried apache2, caused a hard reset
how about an easy text editor like nano with sytax highlighting? i do not have the time to learn vi.
I run a webserver (lighttpd)
I wrote some perl cgi stuff a while back for local train scheduling, and now I can just access my schedules from the browser on the phone.
And git, vim, python, obv. If I need a development environment, it's there
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apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install python
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Seconded.
Although, I've been trying to get Aircrack-ng to work for a bit... it's pre-installed but I'm still not very linux-savvy so it's new to me.
I've found that rtorrent works without any messing about. Not sure why you'd want to use it on a phone but it does.
can anybody else recommend apps to get for debian on android??...
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Seconded.
Although, I've been trying to get Aircrack-ng to work for a bit... it's pre-installed but I'm still not very linux-savvy so it's new to me.
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I would like to see aircrack working on Debian. That would be handy if your not in a 3G network with a bunch of WEP secured WiFi networks laying around.
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I would like to see aircrack working on Debian. That would be handy if your not in a 3G network with a bunch of WEP secured WiFi networks laying around.
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It would probably be not only handy, but quite illegal as well
Here is a link where I found a bit of information about testing packet injection/sniffing scripts from Aircrack:
http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?func=view&id=1578&catid=9
It's a bit complex but also very informative. What this means is that we have the ability to inject/sniff packets with HTC G1, but so far there is not a driver that has been written to take this anywhere beyond testing.
Or that's how I understand it...
Proxin said:
It would probably be not only handy, but quite illegal as well
Here is a link where I found a bit of information about testing packet injection/sniffing scripts from Aircrack:
http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?func=view&id=1578&catid=9
It's a bit complex but also very informative. What this means is that we have the ability to inject/sniff packets with HTC G1, but so far there is not a driver that has been written to take this anywhere beyond testing.
Or that's how I understand it...
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Give it time. It took me a while to get it working with windows... android shouldn't be too much more of a challenge.
efbenson said:
im in the same boat as the op. i tried apache2, caused a hard reset
how about an easy text editor like nano with sytax highlighting? i do not have the time to learn vi.
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vi is easy actually, :q quitsm :wq writes and quit, :wq! the ! is to force over write.
but i preffer pico or nano
on topic:
i installed locate and updatedb to search for files on the phone
apt-get locate
apt-get nss-updatedb
i had to install G++ and Javac
then i did vncserver and a gui...
well i have aircrack-ng in debian on my G1
only issue is ifconfig lists tiwlan0 as Ethernet, not a wireless controller
im pretty sure thanks to the Wifi-Tether app we can assume we have full control over the wifi module (it uses the system driver, does not load its own in, checked the code) and you can ifconfig into promisc mode, however i am having unionfs issues (R33-Lite + Debian due to Buuf theme, seems fine bar this bug, everything else runs)
anybody else got ifconfig displaying the wireless settings correctly while chrooted in debian with the mounts done (not unionfs, just sys proc and /dev/pts)
also aircrack-ng is not illegal, getting caught using it on systems that are not yours where the cop understands what your doing on your phone is illegal
this guy claims his aircrack-ng works... hmmmm http://blog.0x82.com/2009/2/15/first-thoughts-on-android-dev-phone-1
unfortunately promiscuous only shows frames received on the currently associated network, regardless of destination mac address.
in order for air-crack to work, you need the to be able to put the device into monitor mode (as opposed to AP, ad-hoc), which currently can't be done.
Out of interest has snyone got X windows running on the 700mb debian image? I cant find any links to any images bigger than the 700mb and i keep getting restrictions saying there is no space... can anyone hook me up?
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Out of interest has snyone got X windows running on the 700mb debian image? I cant find any links to any images bigger than the 700mb and i keep getting restrictions saying there is no space... can anyone hook me up?
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No...you'll probably need to resize the ext2 filesystem, which fortunately isn't too big of a problem. Likely if you were able to install Debian on the G1, you can resize without a problem.
Check out the links on resizing for more space for Debian....that should fix you up.
THANK YOU JOHAN DE KONING
This will explain how to make your computer fast enough to run ubuntu (a form of Linux). And how to download the android package. This will take up 7 to 8 gb of space.
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT UBUNTU (NOT VIRTUAL AND NOT DUAL IF DON'T WANT TO BE)*This could delete windows if you didn't partion your hard drive right
NOT FOR NOOBS BE WARNED
Go to the ubunutu download page given below and download the 700 mb iso image file. Iso is a cd formatted file u can open it with a zip appclation(but don't). When it is finished I recommand getting a dvd but maybe it could fit on a cd.(*Note that you don't have to burn on to cd u could extract to decktop and run the setup manually.) Burn the ubuntu on to the cd/dvd and than restart your computer with the cd/dvd still in the computer's cd/dvd rom. When the computer goes to a blink screen and asks you if want to boot from cd/dvd press enter. And than from here on follow the instractions.
STEP 1 (CLEAN COMPUTER)
*Note: for performance do this in safe mode.
First we need to make your computer fast as possible. Create a backup just in case you want to back up something. So go to download.com and download Advanced SystemCare Free(7 -10 mb). After you have installed click on the CARE! button to get started. This could depend on your computer usage space the bigger the longer it will take. It will wipe all internet data. If you don't want that to happen just go to maintain windows and click on the Privacy Sweep box to uncheck. Than scan. Than go to utilities and run all the following Disk Check, Disk Cleaner and install Smart defrag. After installing Smart Defrag click start on all the options in this order defrag only, deep optimize, and fast optimize.
STEP 2: RESTART COMPUTER
After restarting go back to System FreeCare and run game booster(install). Click game mode and a pop up will show. Click the button on the left side of the box. Check all boxes but not explore. than go to game mode.
STEP 3: Download virtualbox(68 mb download)
You could have a dual if you want. The download page is http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. Download the correct version. (windows= *VirtualBox 3.0.4 for Windows hosts x86/amd64). than install it.
Install Virtualbox(takes from 5-30 minutes depending on your computer)
Next>accept>next>next>next>yes>install>continue anyway(i got this like 6 times so...)>finish(i think)>cancel>new>Next>name=ubuntu>next>Next>Next>Next>Next>Next>
when u get to the virtual size thing move the bar to 7.5 gb (min). this should be a little extra space. Next>Finish>Next>
STEP 4: Download UBUNTU(700 mb)
DOWNLOAD PAGE http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and choose the ftp. than begin downloading. After download save the file to desktop and DON'T DO ANYTHING. go to the VirtualBox and click CD/DVD-ROM. Check the box and also ISO IMAGE FILE after that and mount to that image on the desktop. THAN OK. press CTRL+ALT+DELETE. go to processes and end explore(for speed). Click Start.
PART 2
OK. START by running VirtualBox with the mount on the ISO ubuntu and than click start on the top right hand side. press enter to leave language than enter again to install ubuntu. on the top of the bar it may pause alot so go to machine and resume it. if it total doesn't work just exit and power down and reboot with explore.exe gone and also no windows up and running. and than just follow the instructions to installing it about 1 hour to 2 hours depending. Make sure that it is completely partation to the virtual drive. After like forever when u reach the main desktop go to app... terminal and make sure u knoe your password. Than type
The rest is here http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/. How to bulid the enviroment and getting the libs and other tools together. After all that run.
Sudo apt-get autoremove
Sudo apt-get autoclean
Than on Saturday and Sunday I will teach u how to make a rom.
There is a kernel problem with johan's idea I think I know what it is
Was going to wipe one of my computers anyway. This gives me a reason to stop procrastinating! Will give this a try. Waiting for part 2!
I know I will never get into rom making but it is very interesting to read about.
P.S. Make the paypal link a bit bigger, I can't read it
I already turned my back on windows so I run ubuntu so this is useless to me but I am waiting for part 2 so I can learn more about this, prob won't ever use it but it is good to knowhow to
Already running Mint in VB .. runs just great. I am interested in reading the ROM part though
WTF? Why do you need to do all of this crap on your computer to run Ubuntu? If I was going to dual boot with windows I would not use the stuff you listed. Why not just explain how to use it create a ROM and let people figure out how to get Ubuntu on their computer.
this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.
jubeh said:
Really, I think this is spam though.
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I think you are right. I don't know if "part 2" is ever going to come, or if it will just be a copy/paste from the link you posted.
Wasn't it simpler to just install ubuntu as second os? If someone wants to dedicate himself to developement it would be better to have ubuntu not virtualized
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this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
Personally I have Ubuntu on a Prtition of My portable drive,which means I can boot it up anywhere (so long as the computer can USB Boot). I shall certainly be following the original info. The same guy has posted many good Android Articles.
As for the OP here, he only really needed to post a link, not copy the whole thing.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
miketaylor00 said:
Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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ha! this bit gave me a chuckle.
I freaking hate Oracle. I run a bunch of dbms' & 95% of my headaches come from them.
I prefer dual-booting, personally. I just started messing around with ubuntu (about 6 months maybe) and i love it, after using ubuntu i fully hate Windows Vista and all its sparkly, money-making horse-****. So now i have ubuntu and Windows both running smoothly on a compaq presario f700 laptop, and the only thing i really use my windows partition (i know thats not the correct technical terminology, just pay attention to the story) for is, well, basically just theming, and media storage. I use photoshop, and havent bothered to try using GIMP very much yet, and so i do all my theming (which isnt much really) in windows, which is where i also already have the autosign tools and draw9patch and other such things setup...and then all my music, pictures, whatever are all on my fat32 partition, and can all be accessed from either OS. aside from that, my computer boots into ubuntu by default. so if im using my computer, im doin it the ubuntu way, unless i NEED to use windows, for something like photoshop, and thats about it.
So long story short...(like its not already to late for that) im eagerly awaiting part 2 cuz ive been hitting some roadblocks...hope it helps!
-BMFC
mohsinkhan47 said:
Please donate and help me get a good ubuntu desktop from the case to the motherboard. Please donat.
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I'll get right on that. Is $500 enough?
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Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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Ok Granted u are right about that and so it should.
But assuming I am not the only person with a quad and 4 gb of RAM, this may work just as well for others too. As as a relative newb with Linux, I can honestly say I have killed a few installations of Linux on my Hard Drive by breaking packages and other things that prevent it from working properly. Sometimes it is easier for me to reinstall the whole thing because I lack the knowledge to fix it.... in comes Virtual Box. I can totally screw it up as much as I want and my Linux partition on my hd remains intact with no errors.
pixel-painter said:
I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.
mohsinkhan47 said:
U guys are evil
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Wow thanks! I really appreciate your work and considering donating to you. Since you make your paypal link so large, it really inspires me to donate.
Thanks again!
edit: (hope this post isn't considered to be spam like the original post is)
Better if you do
sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
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I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.
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Thanks for the info... now I know you have a lot of computers in your household But seriously, I am not trying to put anyone's opinion down here... so there is no need to be quite so elitist I am just pointing out my own experiences with Virtual Box which have been very good. If it doesn't work for you... fine.. but you are suggesting to everyone else that it doesn't work properly or well and I can quite definitively say that yes it does.. and very well too.
I would imagine that your system from what you say may not be powerful enough to handle it as well... so maybe a quad is needed to make it run the way it does for me, I don't profess to know the answer... only that it works great on my system.. it is not slow.... does not have errors and compiles Android source quite easily using Mint Linux (another Debian based Linux Distro for those that are unfamiliar with it)
I don't think I ever mentioned it was as fast as a native system... all I am saying is that it runs well and for a noob it can be run without messing anything else up as it runs in it's own little environment.
This is easier than making a cup of coffee.
Pictures below as attachment couldnt figure how to put the pic here edit figured it out now im just lazy.
you dont have to do it the hard way
Everyone (edit: i thought so at the time)will want this "Fully" (note below) funtioning Ubuntu system
or you can make your own here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913622
I will be maintaning and updating as time permits
Phone has to be rooted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Guides_&_Tutorials
NEW IMAGE 3.5 gigibyte
Lucid base image (only added: lxde and tightvncserver): Zip http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GLMYVCMN User: "dad" Passwd:ffffffff
Remove app2sd and settings- applications- manage applications- sdcard "move all apps to phone" or it will not work!
I suggest you install gnome-panel
I use it and i find no speed differance!
trying to get :upstart services" to work im looking into compiling a kernel with "CONFIG_TMPFS enabled, to initiate a workaround, because "upstart" services wont work in a chroot.
Stock Maverick : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=56AT71WD
Karmic Sucks programs stop opening after some short time, so i gave up.
Tested with: CM7 http://mirror.teamdouche.net/get/supersonic/update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-Supersonic-signed.zip
CM6: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/get/supersonic/update-cm-6.1.2-Supersonic-signed.zip
myn-WarmTwoPointTwo-11-05-2010-RLS-3
Unzip
Copy the "ubuntu" folder to your sd card
Go to market download "Terminal" and android VNC Viewer
Open terminal and type: (without the quotes), "su" then "cd /sdcard/ubuntu"
then "sh ./ubuntu.sh"
then "bootubuntu"
then "vncserver :0 -geometry 1024x800"
Thats it, go to android VNC Viewer and use dad for nickname, "ffffffff" for the password, "localhost", for address, 5900 for the port, Use 24bit veiwing settings, then go.
to shutdown you will have to power off phone and power back on.
Enter in your :"Initial Command",in the settings of Android Terminal:
su
cd /sdcard/ubuntu
sh ./ubuntu.sh
bootubuntu
So everytime you want to start ubuntu just open terminal
to start VNC SERVER automaticly you will have to add to the bottom of your /home/.bashrc file this:
cd /
rm -r -f /tmp
mkdir /tmp
vncserver :0 -geometry 1024x800
Thats it, your off ENJOY
Notes: Its as fully funtioning for myself, cant speak for everyone
This is in Beta stages I am an old Visual Basic dabbler as a hobby, and am not very fluent in the lenux operating system. However this "ubuntu on mobile device" has rekindled a lost desire to program.
I will update changes as i get the time
If anyone would like to contribute their lenux expertese to iron out the bugs, i and so many others would appreciate it
Issues to work on:
:no sound
NOTE: A big kernel level problem is the lack of sound. Most of the kernels we use as a base for our ports are designed for Google Android. Android doesn't use the standard Linux sound System ALSA. An ALSA wrapper for the EVO DSP kernel system must be written.
:Setting up users and groups (used kusers but seemed to slow system a bit, needs kde-common) But is very tolorable, I actually use dolphin. (cant get nautilus to create folders or files (destination read only? u got me)).
:hacked /root/.bashrc for easy login help (when using terminal runs .bashrc. dont know anotherway to start hamachi on login and also vncserver tries to restart)
:keyboard mapping (mapping arrow keys to the abc keyboard it has arrow keys, esc,etc...)
: No way to exit or turn off ubuntu. You have to turn off phone, to turn off ubuntu.
nce in a while the programs refuse to open, it has somthing to do with ?. you have to restart ubuntu again.
I suppose a fluent ubuntu/lenux person could help change usernames and such, using the terminal,set proper permissions and such
Im using CyanogenMod Rom its the only one that works with Hamachi
your rom will most likely work, however networking wont!
Tips:
ownload VNC for your computer and modify your ubuntu desktop on your computer screen (that way i dont need my glasses) (use "ifconfig" to find ip address)
:You can even use VNC to view the build while in qemu emulation, after installing lxde and tightvncserver in the emulation. (watch out for seg faults)
:In terminal, preferances-initial command, enter the "cd /sdcard/ubuntu ...etc ," that way its a one click to login .
:Get "abc keyboard" from market it has the esc, arrow keys etc... ( extra keys only good outside chroot, the "terminal", on your android desktop)
:If your not familiar with ubuntu, you use synaptic package manager to install programs
:When u share over himachi or start smbd, programs will stop opening.
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Trust me everything i want it use it for seems to be pretty zippy, but just give a little xtra time for programs to load the first time. (Firefox may take 90 sec. to load the first time. After that its a snap)
I Would like to check into this
The no sound issue is getting to me, I may wait for that as that is an essential to my all in one device.
THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK. I LOVE UBUNTU
you really have to try it and tell everyone about it cant believe its not one of the hottest topics
I Would like to check into this
any way to delete this post....didn't mean to submit, came back to send like i didn't send it but ending up sending twice
apologies
Sounds pretty cool, I will defiantly have to give this a try. Question though, is this installing over top of the rom I am currently using. Example I am using the MIUI 1.22, if I install this is this like dual booting or will it just uninstall every time I reboot the phone??
Is it still uploading? I really want to try this!
corybucher said:
Sounds pretty cool, I will defiantly have to give this a try. Question though, is this installing over top of the rom I am currently using. Example I am using the MIUI 1.22, if I install this is this like dual booting or will it just uninstall every time I reboot the phone??
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This will sit on your sdcard and ride side by side with your android system (you can use your phone at the same time)
IT DOES NOT EFFECT YOUR PHONE IN ANY WAY
wasnt shouting just wanted everyone to see
ioos said:
Is it still uploading? I really want to try this!
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Download away!
This is awesome! I can't wait to get home and give it a try.
This is gonna be a great weekend. Between this and the flashable ROMs that are starting to roll out for my nook color, I might be sprouting antennae by Monday.
So wep cracking soon...? That's about the only thing I want/need Linux for.
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So wep cracking soon...? That's about the only thing I want/need Linux for.
Sent from the void...
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How would one go about this "wep cracking thing"
please explain further
Almost* all WEP and some** WPA wireless passwords can be cracked. IMHO its easiest to do this on a Linux machine (please take note I love all OSs equally!)
*I forget how accurate this is but some WEP keys(like crazy long ones) can cause problems l in cracking, thus being protected (though not by design)
**most wpa specifications are not crackable yet and those that are often have a very stringent set of requirements (off the top of my head: most require someone to be legitimately connected to the access point and very simple passwords with low encryption.
On topic, though, this is sweet. Hope I can get something like this on my galaxy tab too!
EDIT: If you really need to know this (please only for testing... not to mooch people's internet) Google "wep cracking on backtrack"
The short simple answer is you sniff packets that the wireless access points send out and manipulate them to decrypt the key.
EDIT 2: I just realized you are also the guy who made this. Let me answer a few questions.
1) For audio you probably need to find a way to register the hardware with a Linux Audio Mixer. I'm guessing Ubuntu uses ALSA? I'd have to look that up
2) For users, kusers is part of the KDE desktop system. Ubuntu uses GNOME. People generally only use one or the other (unless they're trying to show off). That's probably why it either a) won't work or b) not work well and take up lots of extra space
3) It's Linux, not Lenux (but that's fine I can sense English isn't your first language... it's not mine either, but that's fine ^^)
the download has a "zipx" extension.
I did a little googling and it looks like that is winzips new default compression method, and the only way to open the archive is with winzip, bitzipper, pkzip, or a couple of others. none of the compression utilities I typically use (7zip on Windows, unarchiver on mac) seem to support it.
Edit: sorry if I sound unappreciative, I just think its funny to use a proprietary closed format for distribution of software that is all about open software and formats. I'm currently trying to find something that will open this on the mac without being a scummy trial, or ill just do it on a pc.
Sorry i just used the wizard and made a zip file with winzip 12.1
Quote"Almost* all WEP and some** WPA wireless passwords can be cracked. IMHO its easiest to do this on a Linux machine (please take note I love all OSs equally!)
*I forget how accurate this is but some WEP keys(like crazy long ones) can cause problems l in cracking, thus being protected (though not by design)"
Thanks for the info
laydros said:
the download has a "zipx" extension.
I did a little googling and it looks like that is winzips new default compression method, and the only way to open the archive is with winzip, bitzipper, pkzip, or a couple of others. none of the compression utilities I typically use (7zip on Windows, unarchiver on mac) seem to support it.
Edit: sorry if I sound unappreciative, I just think its funny to use a proprietary closed format for distribution of software that is all about open software and formats. I'm currently trying to find something that will open this on the mac without being a scummy trial, or ill just do it on a pc.
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shame on me .
Your right im a noob and really know too much about it yet i just like having ubuntu on my phone.
Ill do better next time
People talking about cracking WEP and stuff, this probably doesn't have a driver to put the wireless card to put the card in monitor mode.
laydros said:
the download has a "zipx" extension.
I did a little googling and it looks like that is winzips new default compression method, and the only way to open the archive is with winzip, bitzipper, pkzip, or a couple of others. none of the compression utilities I typically use (7zip on Windows, unarchiver on mac) seem to support it.
Edit: sorry if I sound unappreciative, I just think its funny to use a proprietary closed format for distribution of software that is all about open software and formats. I'm currently trying to find something that will open this on the mac without being a scummy trial, or ill just do it on a pc.
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Have the same problems, did you happen to find anything to open it with? I searched a little on google myself but all I find is software that needs to be purchased.
Homefix said:
Quote"Almost* all WEP and some** WPA wireless passwords can be cracked. IMHO its easiest to do this on a Linux machine (please take note I love all OSs equally!)
*I forget how accurate this is but some WEP keys(like crazy long ones) can cause problems l in cracking, thus being protected (though not by design)"
Thanks for the info
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AFAIK, WEP can be easily cracked. WPA or WPA2 though, will require bruteforcing, there is no way around it.
corybucher said:
Have the same problems, did you happen to find anything to open it with? I searched a little on google myself but all I find is software that needs to be purchased.
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I will repackage it, but it might take 3-4 hrs to upload, sorry.
ill get right on it
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.galoula.LinuxInstall
New every thing. Redesign of everything every where, rewite of all English parts, many bug fixes.
What for ? install Debian using debootstrap in chroot, and use your Android device like if you had installed Linux on a standard computer.
Bugs shall be reported to [email protected] .
Misc questions about how to use and feature request and general discussions to [email protected]
Market description:
This application will allow you to install a complete Debian distribution in your Android device. Based on chroot, it will perform a standard debootstrap and install a legacy Debian so that you can install, and run any classic Linux command, tool, daemon or service.
The package has few limitations; it is not restricted to Debian; we already offer the choice to use Ubuntu, and will add more distributions in close future. Each distribution is available in several tastes (stable, testing ...). It will not require to reboot; chroot is run inside Android. Installation can be done on any storage device, either on SD card, or inernal memory; no need to repartition any thing, run mkfs or fdisk. We do with what you let use. If you have almost nothing, the package will manage with almost nothing; if you can afford for a large ext4 partition on your SD card, the package will be happy to use it.
It will allow you to install all classic LAMP services like Apache, MySql, PHP, Samba, Netatalk, or just any classic Linux tool like vim, xterm, aterm, Abiword, Firefox, dillo, wget, cron, Perl, Python ... just everything.
Package utilisation will require a rooted device.
Reasons to install this package can not be listed. Just too many: want a cron daemon ? want to have gcc inside your phone ? want to recompile some kernel driver because the legacy Android driver for your Wi-Fi card has is bogus or limited ? want to use vim, or the real full featured desktop ls, ip, nmap, or top commands ? this package will give you all this for free, and much much more.
Requierments:
- an Android device based on some Linux kernel
- a rooted environment
- 300M free space
That's all.
Optionnal registration on our website, http://android.galoula.com/LinuxInstall/Register.php , will allow you to use advanced management features, and install package from within the application interface. You will not need to type any strange command in any terminal. And you will be able to make some services start automaticly at phone boot, and/or application start.
Online documentation: http://android.galoula.com/en/LinuxInstall/
Quick installation guide: http://android.galoula.com/en/LinuxInstall/QuickTutorial.html
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Free space must be on sd-card or phone memory?
Both accepted You choose where to install.
500M by default on SD card using loop method (on ext2 or fat). Down to 180M using the directory method (does not work on FAT).
thanks for this man.
Sorry if this is a noob question but will this in any way brick/soft brick my device?
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Yes, it can.
But this app is underdevelopment since almost two years, and nobody ever bricked yet. I have written a very long complete tutorial, where I say what you should NOT do. I could easily tell you how to brick in 5 steps.
But we have been working very hard on default settings, to make default settings as much safe as possible.
There are many bugs, many known bugs; but 99.999% bugs will just make the chroot not work. Data loss is very rare. Data loss was highly probable in previous version 3.2 . But default settings are now safer. And if you do not do what we claim to be dangerous ... you are safe.
The most frequent case with 3.2 was complete wipe of /sdcard and /data . This have been fixed.
We never ran into wipe of /system until now. Never bricked.
And since Galoula and me are working on it, we are the most exposed ones. We test every single feature, in all possible situations. And when we find a wipe case, we repro it dozen time until we understand why, and how to fix, so that it won't happen to YOU.
3.3 is way safer than 3.2. And nobody reported wipe on 3.2 ...
But if you blindely clik any where, yes it can. And if I tell you where to click, you can brick in 5 steps for sure And it won't be a soft brick. I promise a good real brick where even HTC will be in trouble to repair it It's explained in the tutorial.
Wow. Thanks for the reply. At least i have an idea now. Is the tut on the app itself? I'll nake sure to read it very carefully coz i wanna learn all about this stuff
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A not so short tuto is inside; but since most mobile devices have only one screen, you may want to read the online tuto on your computer: http://android.galoula.com/en/LinuxInstall/
Default settings are safe. Just follow the guide.
Will go ahead and read this tut. I'll make sure to give feedback. Thanks for paying attention to this noob
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this is just great, are there any videos or screen shots?
edit: nevermind i just checked the market
Feel free to send us screen shots; I am not good at doing that (i can to shots, but I don't know what could be nice to upload).
We would apreciate shots of working (of course ) VNC clients connected to server running localy, or local consoles (like Connectbot) doing funny things.
Send to support. Thanks.
Spent the whole weekend on this...
I'm trying o get an X- GUI on the Samsung Captivate, (hope i said that right) like Ubuntu so i can VNC to a linux desktop environment. I'm on FASTY and wondering why I keep running into refusal of connection. I have the password and localhost as well as the port correct. I've lost sleep on making this work. Can anyone help...?
You question is somehow off topic.
You seem to have a basic VNC connexion issue.
Could not help without deeper description. And I rarely use VNC, i have very low experience.
First point: do you have free space in the distro ? depending on installation method, and what you installed, you may have run out of disk space (especially Ubuntu, uses lot more than Legacy Debian).
The distribution manager is still beta AOT. It may report the VNC service to be up and running, when it could not rally run. First thing to check is: is it up ?
- from local machine, to ps, and check if process is up
- from remote machine, just scan your IP for the device. VNC should be port 5800 or 5900, forgot which one.
Your VNC password is *NOT* your distribution password. VNC password need to be set at a different place (this is VNC specific; VNC is not UNIX, and never claimed to be fully a *UNIX "merged" service*).
Never used VNC in LinuxInstaller. Never yet. Not enough time to test it. We take report, and will test only major and frequent issues. We have many "easy success" reports, so, we don't worry about it. We have much more issues about rooting (getting root on phone), and starting debootstrap; this is what we focus on.
Make sure you have enough free space (at least 50M free left), then join any Debian or Ubuntu forum. They will ask you if you have a CLI; you shall use either adb shell, or connectbot. Fact you are in a chroot is not an issue, chrooting is not frequent for debian users, chrooting is the normal procedure to install Gentoo; and all debootstrap users use chroot daily; forums should not reject you for this reason. As long as you have a CLI.
Good luck.
Lost me fast...
Sorry..but you lost me, and FAST! I really don't have the terminology down...but I do have the Linux 3.3 Installer running properly...it indicates so. I was assuming that this would allow me to somehow load Ubuntu on my Captivate..as I've seen on some screen shots...I guess I'm just lost...a little knowledge is dangerous...I have a little. Just enough to accomplish the basics..but the vernacular is LOST to me. Guess I'll have to wait for the Ubuntu apk...thanks for trying...
I've got this errors...(see attached files).
I have busybox 1.19, connectbot and the superuser (v2.3.6.3 and su binary v2.3.2, the latest from the maket)...
What can I do?
you guys are still lucky.your able to make it work...
im running the ongoing cm7 2.3.5 on moto defy...
kernel is not supporting this yet.
hailmary what's missing in your kernel ? I don't know any Android that won't have ext2 in; if you have an Android without any ext2 filesystem, please contact me in private, I know it could be done, and I would be VERY CURIOUS to see how HTC did it.
If you are missing loop support in kernel, try block or directory method. Blocck will require ext2; directory won't (but will work only over ext FS ... so ... unless you can use NFS )
dugryce , ScumpinatoS, I will come back later (maybe today, maybe not).
ScumpinatoS said:
I've got this errors...(see attached files).
I have busybox 1.19, connectbot and the superuser (v2.3.6.3 and su binary v2.3.2, the latest from the maket)...
What can I do?
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Reading the first message, you as, as said, a CPU issue. What's your CPU ? device model ?
run in some console:
uname -a
which tail
Application could not load viable environment to work; it is an issue, but it can be fixed. I can help digging, but I won't give you any solution. Send an email to Galoula; the bug report system via the console should work for you.
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Reading the first message, you as, as said, a CPU issue. What's your CPU ? device model ?
run in some console:
uname -a
which tail
Application could not load viable environment to work; it is an issue, but it can be fixed. I can help digging, but I won't give you any solution. Send an email to Galoula; the bug report system via the console should work for you.
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I have a Huawei Ideos CPU: MSM7225 without GPU.
I am use it and try install Ubuntu Natty but after download all deb package i get error installation, "issue binary, try other version"
Can someone help me what distro (Ubuntu/Debian) and what version of it that have installed succesfully.. please...
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