HI i was wondering if any of the devs could point me in the right direction to learn , read, etc... about Rom cooking, im willing to learn but seriously i have no way on how to start i do know a couple of things but thats about it.
thanks for any info and Help.
I am not a ROM developer, but I have seen developer's responses to questions like this (as I'd like to dive into app development myself):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18935780&postcount=12
Things you will need to look into first include the java programming language (which is easy enough if you are familiar with another OOP language) and the Android SDK. While you can develop for Android in Windows it looks like most of the useful tools for ROM development are mainly available in linux, so you may also want to give linux a shot as well if you aren't familiar with linux and that style of developing.
Once you get a working SDK set up and have some java experience then you can move on to actually decompiling apps and ROMs and examining the code (using the tools that Raver mentioned in the post I linked to). The Android Developers site has great resources available for learning about nearly everything you will need to know Android-wise.
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hello everyone. my goal is to become an android rom/ app developer. right now im currently attending college for my bachelors in Computer Science. right now im still working on my AA so its going to be a while before i even get into the field. ive researched online about linux and learned the basic codes in terminal to move files, delete them etc. but of course i dont think these codes apply to android.
im not trying to learn all this by myself but i atleast want a basic idea of the type of things im going to be learning.
so far ive downloaded android sdk and eclipse on my ubuntu linux netbook.
do you guys know of any websites that can help me get started or at least point me in the right direction in getting started on my first android rom or app.
thanks
Start with building your first hello in eclipse.
The best place to start is right on the Android site. Watch all the videos and get ready to read lots.
They have tutorials and step by step instructions for your first hello app.
BTW they tell you to break it so you have to fix it.
My biggest obstacle is just doing it.
http://android.voxisland.com has a good set of down and dirty introduction videos to app development for Android. Also, developer.android.com. A lot of that knowledge is pretty essential when doing any other kind of Android devving.
pick up some basic java and you'll have a nice head start.
If your looking for examples you can find them here
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developer.android.com/guide/samples/index.html
I wouldn't pay for videos from some jackasses website - plenty of free java tutorials out there to get you started.
www.anddev.org is a good site
You will need to learn the basic codes in terminal to move files, delete them, etc.
These codes apply to Android.
thanks guys for the replys. im going to start looking for tutorials for java using eclipse.
the android.dev.com pages and anddev.org show me how to make apk files. what im trying to find out is how to make roms and mess with kernels and such. how would the java and apk's tie into that?
I've got the same doubt as ripmeck. I didn't know where to ask for help, so I came here.
And I looked into all the replies, thanks for the help guys.
Unlike ripmeck, its already been two years since I've finished my bachelors.
I'm pretty okay with C programming that includes pointers, structures, etc., (but only the basics of all concepts, cause i know how deep and confusing the root goes).
And I'm slightly familiar with Eclipse, as I have done simple (very simple) java programs in it. Programs that makes use of exception handlers, multithreading etc.,
But I'm not so strong in Java (cause it has got lot more features than C and I couldn't remember it all and make use of it, I've got used to the linear style of coding without making use of any classes ).
My question is:
Should I have to get myself very strong in java before started coding for android app or can I eventually learn the java language in parallel with android development?
There was a thread posted by Cyanogen on XDA called 'some advice' with lots of good info on what you need to get started. Sorry I don't have a link since I'm mobile right now. My suggestion is to find that thread and start there.
Here are some steps vaguely describing what you need. Each is a never ending process.
1. Understand Linux/Unix
2. Understand Android
3. Make something.
My advice is to learn everything you can. Read around XDA and tackle learning each bit individually.
Learn ADB, make some themes or mods using metamorph, learn how to sign files and build update.zip files. Most importantly, have fun.
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I hope I'm posting this in the right forums (I read the rules, but still).
Anyways, I'm wanting into get into Android development like doing applications or even hacking roms. I'm always reading at how awesome you guys are at developing stuff. Sadly, I don't have much experience. Majoring in Computer Engineering, but I can't wait for years.
So does anyone have any points on how to get started? Even if it takes me a year, I'm fine. I just want to get to know this stuff. Can I start with, say, Java? Thanks, and I apologize if this is the wrong board!
I would definitelly recommend first familiarizing yourself with Java and getting the language down and going to learn how to turn that knowledge into developing for Android from there. There are a lot of easy to find ways to learn Java right online from Youtube and articles people have written, however Android is a little harder to find help learning. Everyone seems to want you to pay them ridiculous amounts of money. And when you do find tutorials on it they will assume you have an advanced knowledge of working with the Java Development Kit and normally Eclipse as well.
Hi! But even if i learn "well" (not to mention basics) can i customize any rom as i wish or rather make some changes on? I've to get into java world beacuse my knowledges about are not necessary as android deserve...
Thanks in advance!
For app development, u hav to learn java and google APIs thoroughly.. u can learn from various development forums..
For Rom tweaking u need to learn linux scripts and other stuffs like directory tree n much more..
I'm putting my theming project aside for now and get onto creating an app that I've always wanted to create that I do not see ANYWHERE in the market, forums, android websites, etc.
I've been reading and reading and reading different threads, instructions, etc. But no clue where to start. I've been reading on App Inventor but realized that it is very limited and I have my high doubts that App Inventor will not be able to achieve what I have in mind to make.
I've got the latest SDK and AVD Manager, JDK, Java, and have been using my emulator to test edited APKs. I'm pretty sure I'll be using my emulator to see how my app progress is coming along and see possible FCs and other issues and correct them as well as adding more to the app to make it even better.
But right now I'm stuck at where to begin here. Right when I was about to create this thread, I was making the name of the Title of this thread and was given threads relating to my title name and saw one thread that was sort of mentioning what I'm asking here.
I read the link provided in that thread ( http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html ) and got some clues but just not enough to get me started here. I just need that push to get me going and eventually push it out to the market and make some money as a side project and learn from that and possibly make more useful apps. I cannot disclose my ideas here because then someone else (who has experience making apps) could take those ideas from me and go make it.
Is anyone willing to work with me here to get me started? I've helped countless people so it would be nice for a change for someone to help me out here.
There are so much Android development books on the market that I suggest to start with one of them. It's the best way to get some knowledge of the design principles used by the Android development framework.
Another method is to start with some examples found on the web. Just search for Android examples or something like that and you get tons of links
Another method is just to create something, get stuck and try to search for a solution (the most pragmatic method )
Yeah I know. That's why I'm constantly researching. I'm seeing some similarities between Java coding and building scripts in IRC (which I used to do, nothing big, just really small stuff). But my main problem is knowing what exactly are the main tools I need. I've had Eclipse for awhile but never used it. It has a lot of stuff in it and I get lost after a couple executions.
I'm just anxious to get started somewhere and get the momentum rolling for starters.
Could someone point me to a good book/ebook ? There are many out there but I'm sure that are some better than others...
If any french-speaker knows one in Voltaire's language, I'm in too. But English is fine...
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Could someone point me to a good book/ebook ? There are many out there but I'm sure that are some better than others...
If any french-speaker knows one in Voltaire's language, I'm in too. But English is fine...
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Yeah, a good book (english) would be great. Can anyone recommend one?
You don't have to buy books but they do contain a lot more info in one book and would be better to have than trying to scour the internet and pull a bunch of infos together and try to put it together to understand step by step on how to get started and everything else.
Here's a link to a lot of android development books:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...pment&sprefix=android+application+development
Here's a link to some more info to getting started that is also useful:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
You may also need to get a Java coding book to help you put codes together properly and understand what each coding does, and tweaking them to work better.
Here's the link to Java coding for Android stuff for beginners:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...x=java+for+dummies&rh=n:283155,k:android+java
I just bought 2 books for Android application development and looking around for a good Java coding for beginners.
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Yeah, a good book (english) would be great. Can anyone recommend one?
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professional android 2 application development by Reto Meier: http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTi...ication-Development.productCd-0470565527.html
Or, the Busy Coder's guide to android development by Mark L Murphy: http://commonsware.com/Android/
Last one is more written in a "let's get dirty" style. Really like that
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I think any java book will do, as long as it covers the principles of object oriented design and the data structures used by Java. You don't need any info about GUI programming in Java because that's all covered by the Android application framework.
The best Java books are the ones written by James Gosling et al, the designers of Java. But that may also be over the top for Android application development. Just some basic Java will do to get you started. The algorithms needed for basic apps aren't that complex.
App Inventor is a great tool to develop your android app. It simplifies the development and the editor is very intuitive.
Check out my blog on App Inventor and AppToMarket and a Workshop
http://Amerkashi.Wordpress.com
I have question regarding developing for android. I am new to all this, as in: the only programming I have EVER done was in BASICA (I wonder if anybody remembers that far back lmao). I currently have acquired the following: Java for Dummies, and Android Developement for Dummies. What additional reading would you developers recommend? My goals are to: Learn the terminology of Android, develop some basic apps, learn to make themes, and maybe someday learn to build my own ROM from source.....I've just started reading the JAVA book, so talk to me like I'm dumb lol. Any advice and pointers are welcome! Oh, and I am in the understanding that Android is Linux based....I have NEVER used Linux!
I'm a college student, Just finished a C programming, and Intro Java Class, ( i am starting a CSE minor at UCSD which i plan to finish by summer), relatively intelligent, very interested in technology.
What do I need to learn? Are there any books/textbooks anyone could recommend i read or follow to help me learn?
Im interested in developing apps and also custom roms!
I have just set up Eclipse and the Android SDK on my Mac. I know about the tutorials on googles developer site, i am just starting these but it seems like they require so prerequisite knowledge. I notices that the code in the my first app look alot like java. (if it isnt completely java)
Any other ideas or links anyone can share?
Any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!
Hi frarredo,
Make the tutorials from android-developers web site is a good start point, and in my opinion, you should use the android-developers web site always as the main reference to build your android applications. However, you have very good references in the internet like Vogela tutorials and others.
My first advice to you is: start reading the android documentation before you start the implementation process. You do not need to read all the documentation and can give a quick read to get a general idea. But, is very important that you understand some basic Android concepts. As you said, the tutorials seem to require some previous knowledge. If you read, it is much easy to understand what you are doing
I know that sometimes this is boring but is really very important.
The android-developers have a very good documentation, so take a look at: developer. android. com/ guide/ components
(I can not post links yet, sorry)
If you want to know more about Android and in the future build custom roms or whatever, I suggest you to read a very good book: Embebed Android from Karim Yaghmour.
Last, but not least, you have all the forums from xda