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Ok I am coming from the Nexus S with Voodoo Sound and Picture and wow if you only knew how amazing Voodoo really is my biggest problem with my Nexus S was the in ear sound output. It was quickly remedied by the installation of PowerAmp, but that got old fast because although it sounds good its still not loud. I honestly want a phone that makes me have to turn the sound down so I don't blow my ear drums or cars speakers. I have amazing headphones iBeats by Dre to be exact and with Voodoo it made my phone sound amazing!!!!! But now i have the TBolt i need a upgrade ASAP. Post away with any incite regarding a sound driver kernel or app anything please and thank you.
- D.J.
I am hoping for Voodoo Sound and Picture as well. Seems like it is the best available.
Do you have a link for the development threads or website for Voodoo?
What does it do to the picture? It would be nice to have the DPI higher on the TB.
http://project-voodoo.org/
there it is and from my exp on my nexus s i didnt notice much of a difference picture wise but sound was beyond my expectations
Gray is rambling, so if you know about lossless (I hope you do) then just skip down to black.
Now any good person knows lossless audio formats such as FLAC and WAV are the only way to go for studio quality music. However, most of them also know that you need some audio processor(I call it that at least, computer it's called sound card, but in general it's something that processes audio>audio processor) that can output high quality audio. I know on some phones it's complete, utter, **** that you couldn't notice the difference between a 92Kbps MP3 and a lossless format. So, on the Infuse is there any reason to buy Monster Turbines or some other extremely high quality earbuds?
I would test myself if I felt like wasting $200 on some new headphones that might not be any better, however I do not.
So yeah, simple question, is the audio processor/sound card/whatever you'd like it to be called on the Samsung Infuse capable of playing anything that would be better on a $200 earbud than a mid-range $50-60 one??
I picked up some Etymotic Research ER6i Isolator In-Ear Earphones a little over a year ago and they've been awesome. They were about $75 from Amazon, but I think they've since then come out with newer models.
They're great headphones though and provide more than ample sound quality. Plus, they fit inside a motorcycle helmet well.
Personally, I would tend to think a decent headset would put you in a good place rather than dropping $200.
EH.. uhm... did you... did you read my post?
I was asking how capable the Infuse is of putting out high quality audio, not what headphones are good... read my post ._.
yes good earbuds make a difference. but there are good earbuds in the $50-80 range, and some mediocre ones in the $200 range, its important to read reviews.
the Samsung ones that come with the phone aren't terrible, I think they don't sound as offensive as skull candies which can be a little harsh. but you would notice an upgrade if you got some decent aftermarket earbuds.
etymotics doesn't make a bad earbud in any price range. they tend to be good for jazz or classical or anything in a noisy environment (they have the best isolation other than custom pieces)
read reviews, because there are some expensive products with mediocre reviews and cheap ($35 for some denon pieces) products with rave reviews even from people that have owned some $300-$800 earbuds. know what you listen to and what you want it to sound like. any earbud will give the music different characteristics, some are true to the recording, some color the music, but that's not always bad, especially on modern music like rock, hip-hop, or electronic stuff.
edit: oh and yes, the Samsung sgs phones and the charge and infuse have a hifi quality amp and hardware codec, read up on voodoo sound!
So you're guaranteeing that WITH THE SAMSUNG INFUSE, playing lossless files, that there will be a significant difference between mid-range and high-end earbuds? This isn't a question about earbuds, it's about the Infuse's audio quality..
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So you're guaranteeing that WITH THE SAMSUNG INFUSE, playing lossless files, that there will be a significant difference between mid-range and high-end earbuds? This isn't a question about earbuds, it's about the Infuse's audio quality..
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yeah, the hardware is capable of it. but it is also a matter of drivers. voodoo sound, if properly implimented will have great sound. I'm not sure voodoo sound has been properly implimented. I felt it made a bigger difference on the captivate as far as audio characteristics, yet I also feel the infuse has a lower noise level even stock than my captivate did.
I'm not promising anything right now, Samsungs drivers aren't known to be the best and if voodoo sound isn't 100% then you get what you get.
I can't speak too much as I'm 100% happy with a set of Skullcandy Titans with Comply foam eartips.
Stock, you will likely be disappointed. I've seen a lot of reports of the stock Samsung kernels performing poorly. Jitter, crackling, all sorts of crap.
Samsung screws it up every time.
This is why, just like Samsung screwing it up every time with RFS (causing Voodoo Lagfix to be created and become the standard), we have Voodoo Sound. It's a completely rearchitectured driver for the WM8997.
I suggest you research:
Sound quality of the Captivate and other GalaxyS phones when running Voodoo Sound
Sound quality of other devices with the WM8997
If you see good reports, then likely, the Infuse with Voodoo Sound will meet your needs.
NOTE: There's a slight chance our current Voodoo Sound port may be deficient. There's some stuff in the current code that bothers LinuxBozo and I. It may not actually matter, we might have full-up VS now.
Coming from the Captivate, I was used to the excellent sound quality it provided with it's Wolfson WM8994 DAC processor.
Sadly, I can't say the same for the Skyrocket. The floor noise and the whining from CPU cycles is downright annoying on quieter songs with sensitive IEMs. Audio sounds mushy, more focused to lower end of the spectrum with more bass (and sloppy bass at that), Mid-Bass wasn't any better. Overall, lacks clarity and definition. In general, I've heard better sound come out of cheapy chinese mp3 players.
On the other hand, the Captivate is an EXCELLENT music player (Audiophile quality). I used it with my headphone amp and my Senn HD-600s and it was my primary source.
If you ever get a chance to listen to a Galaxy S device with WM8994 DAC w/ Voodoo enabled. 128x oversampling on a nice pair of cans and then to the Skyrocket, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Samsung, I'm Very disappointed. I know the average consumer doesn't care and wouldn't care but how could you DOWNGRADE??? How could you make a multi-media product and are not able to isolate the (AT THE MINIMUM) interference from the cpu!!! The whines, the clicks, the hissing, is downright ANNOYING and screams CHEAPNESS!
Glad I kept my Captivate, atleast it's serving me well as a source player.
I've noticed the bad sound as well
Been doing some looking around and seems like same issues can be found in the Galaxy S II....pretty much throughout the whole GSII lineup.
More than likely due to the Yamaha chip Samsung decided to go with.
Yeah I noticed that too, it was there with my old Xperia X10 and seems worse with the Skyrocket. Its not much of an issue to me since I listen to bassy music but it gets annoying when I listen to Trance during low bass intervals. All you hear is hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssss
Only workaround is bluetooth
DSP manager in ics themed roms helps. The Voodoo developer just released voodoo louder for the galaxy s II but the hd and lte versions are not supported. Hopefully he will get around to it since it uses the same yamaha processor as the gsII, just a different processor. Why did Samsung have to make so many changes to the same lineup...
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Personally i dont see supercurio doing anything mod wise for this phone.... i have asked before.
his rebuttle was its not exynos so no go.
plain and simple, maybe if he some how got the device i could see that.
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Personally i dont see supercurio doing anything mod wise for this phone.... i have asked before.
his rebuttle was its not exynos so no go.
plain and simple, maybe if he some how got the device i could see that.
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He has the T-Mo SGS II, which has the same chip set.
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I would agree for the most part with the stock mp3 player.
That said I installed poweramp and on my HDJ-500 headphones from pioneer it sounds incredible.
Kills my old HTC Incredible S
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He has the T-Mo SGS II, which has the same chip set.
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Then hey I'm not against improvement...
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power amp improves the sound and cleared up most of my complain too.
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Yeah. This is where Samsung Galaxy line really sucks at. It is not unbearable for casually listening on the go. I used to consider myself an audiophile. But the difference is that I love my Galaxy S2 over my priority for audio fidelity.
If you really wanted to get lost in your music by sitting in a dark, silent room, and really have nothing between you and your visualization of music, this is absolutely not the device to do it with. The iPhone wasn't the perfect device for this either, but at least the iPhone can seemingly play noise free music, unlike the Galaxys.
It sounds like it is raining outside and a tea kettle has reached boiling point from a far but audible distance.
I think mp3 players in general, including the iPod and iPhone, have made me lose my love for music. Music feels like it lacks soul. It is probably because the soul moving subtle near inaudible parts of music has been filtered out for us by data saving codecs.
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Yeah. This is where Samsung Galaxy line really sucks at. It is not unbearable for casually listening on the go. I used to consider myself an audiophile. But the difference is that I love my Galaxy S2 over my priority for audio fidelity.
If you really wanted to get lost in your music by sitting in a dark, silent room, and really have nothing between you and your visualization of music, this is absolutely not the device to do it with. The iPhone wasn't the perfect device for this either, but at least the iPhone can seemingly play noise free music, unlike the Galaxys.
It sounds like it is raining outside and a tea kettle has reached boiling point from a far but audible distance.
I think mp3 players in general, including the iPod and iPhone, have made me lose my love for music. Music feels like it lacks soul. It is probably because the soul moving subtle near inaudible parts of music has been filtered out for us by data saving codecs.
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Haven't heard the original Galaxy S series with Voodoo Sound, have you?
Supercurio (probably the biggest audiophile of all audiophiles) made new sound drivers for the Galaxy S series, that basically make it the best sound chip in the market (Wolfson Microelectronics FTW).
It bests anything, including the iPhone, without a problem.
Headphones, etc make a big difference. I'll be ordering something from headroom, http://www.headphone.com/index.php but, I'm not spending a ridiculous amount of money.
Going with the different players and DSP manager just masks the problem by using eq at the software level. The floor noise and cycle whine is a hardware caused issue, a poorly designed system where the headphones/codec are not shielded well.
It's not just the floor noise and whining. Overall the DAC lacks substance. sounds are muffled, There's no definition in the mid bass. upper spectrum lacks detail etc etc.
You'd never know and hear this unless you hear a GOOD source with a good DAC first.
MiMart, headphones do make a difference, obviously. My senns HD-600s are one of the best out there. But it'll only perform as good as the power/source you provide it.
Sensitives IEMs don't stand a chance on this phone in my opinion. Especially something isolated and sensitive like the Etymotic er6i's.
I'm just looking for something better than craptastic in ear buds the phone came with. Agreed software, and good headphones can only do so much with a so so quality audio.
Longcat14 said:
Haven't heard the original Galaxy S series with Voodoo Sound, have you?
Supercurio (probably the biggest audiophile of all audiophiles) made new sound drivers for the Galaxy S series, that basically make it the best sound chip in the market (Wolfson Microelectronics FTW).
It bests anything, including the iPhone, without a problem.
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You beat me to it! My Captivate with Voodoo Sound was the bomb. When I got the Skyrocket I compared the two and the Captivate killed it. Used it as a WiFi media player for a few weeks and then needed money so I sold it. Wish I kept it!
I've heard no Voodoo coming for the Skyrocket. Thank you Yamaha chip set!
The more I listen with the included ear buds, the more I find the audio is lacking. I've tried multiple music players, with the same song (flac) with different setting for the eq all with the same lack luster results. I want to get better head phones, not sure if it is worth the money to spend a bit of $100 or not.
Beside the inclusion of the LTE, i believe samsung has cheapened out A LOT on this phone. A lot of people are experiencing screen issues with this model (mine included and i returned it for a different one that still has similar problems) The camera while fine in an areas that are well lit, is utterly worthless in the dark. Even my old SE k800i had better optics in the dim settings than this pos. My microUSB cable has even failed.. i mean wtf how does that fail!? it barely charges and when you connect the phone to the computer, neither devices recognizes each other. When I change the cable for my old SE microusb connect everything works fine.
I cannot recommend this phone to anyone. As soon as there are other LTE devices out there im going to book it.
I haven't owned a Galaxy S series phone before the SkyRocket, so I can't compare. I will, however, say that the sound quality out of the SkyRocket is... mediocre at best and pretty bad at worst. That said, if I want ideal sound quality why would I be using a 3.5mm stereo jack? I'll be using digital signals to get it as close to the amp as I can, and that means bypassing all of the parts of this device that are less than stellar.
Bluetooth, in this case, is what we want. A Google search for A2DP enabled bluetooth stereo adapters turns up plenty of options for those that want to go that route.
Sure the SkyRocket could have used better components. But seriously, why complain? For casual listening it is more than enough, and for premium listening I wouldn't touch a 3.5mm stereo jack if you paid me.
ADDITION: You can also give the audio output quality over MHL/HDMI a try. Not sure what pathways that goes through, but it may provide better quality than the stereo-mini jack.
So I went to see The Offspring live tonight and attempted to record some of the parts of the show. The video is fine, no issues there, but the audio, holy crap does it suck. The bass overwhelms the mic and I cant hear anything but the pounding of the bass. Ill have a video up soon to show you guys what I mean.
In the meantime has someone experienced issues when recording a live show? And being pissed that the audio is so terrible? The iPhone 4S had no issues recording live shows. Everything was great. Maybe some tweaks or something I could install to fix the issue?
At the time of the show I was running Synergy Mod r72.
Edit: And here is the video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7jap9R4Tao
Also youtubes upload process reduced the video quality massive amounts. But the original file is still 1080p.
If you're okay with audio only, Tape Machine is the best app on the market. I have the paid version and use it frequently. Robust options and high quality audio. Recorded the Thrice farewell concert at Marquee Theater and it sounds great.
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I would like to know the same as well. I went to the Uproar Festival on Saturday and the video recorded amazing but I too have the issue of all you can hear is the distored bass.
iPhone has a separate mic for shooting video
http://ipod.about.com/od/introductiontotheiphone/ss/Anatomy-Of-Iphone-4.htm
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iPhone has a separate mic for shooting video
http://ipod.about.com/od/introductiontotheiphone/ss/Anatomy-Of-Iphone-4.htm
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We also have two mics.. one at the top of the phone and one at the bottom.
Is there a way to edit the audio in a computer program to make it more tolerable?
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That's not a bass issue, it's a volume issue, it is simply too loud for the microphone.
Try another app as the sensitivity settings can be changed by software.
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The diaphragm of the mic can only handle so many dbspl before it produces maximum voltage and you clip. I would bet the mic is not made to handle the 120 dbspl or so the concert is at. Apple, in their infinite wisdom, probably made it to handle such a case... I think it's patent #80085
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I too, as I'm sure a lot of people, have noticed audio recording quality issues at concerts. It could be one of the many things that everyone has said here, but whatever the issue is, I really want to try and find a solution or workaround or something.
I did some research and saw so many different reasons for why it could be happening, but I'm not sure anyone really knows. Is it just because the fact that I'm 5 inches away from the stage and my mic can't handle the volume? Is it ICS specific as I've heard some people say? (but I see OP is using CM10, so that's JB not ICS unless he switched to JB after recording the video.) I don't know, but I wish I did!
I was considering one of the external microphone rigs that i've seen people make for the Galaxy Nexus and other phones... or even just a separate audio recorder to use for sound while video taping, and then sync them together in post production.
I am going to link to a video I took from I show I went to over the weekend just to show you my similar clipping experience, mainly only from the bass. Once it's on YouTube I'll post it.
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The diaphragm of the mic can only handle so many dbspl before it produces maximum voltage and you clip. I would bet the mic is not made to handle the 120 dbspl or so the concert is at.
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This is the issue, I feel.
At a loud concert, I can put my hand over the mic and the distortion goes down or away, but let the full loudness of that sound hit a small diaphragm and you'll lose resolution + it will be overwhelmed rather quickly, I feel.
Happens with all phones I've tried and even many video cams.
- ooofest
The solution for clipping audio is called Voodoo Sound by Supercurio in the kernel but unfortunately us version of S3 doesn't have Wolfson dac so I think we are screwed. I've loved this future on my Fascinate with custom kernels.
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The solution for clipping audio is called Voodoo Sound by Supercurio in the kernel but unfortunately us version of S3 doesn't have Wolfson dac so I think we are screwed. I've loved this future on my Fascinate with custom kernels.
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That is not what I wanted to hear... ugh. There has to be some sort of solution. Maybe I'll try putting my fingers over the microphones next time I'm at a concert, lol.
Doesn't the video recording usually use the second mic for noise cancelling, or is that only for calls? That can REALLY f*** up music.
Also, I just thought it would be really cool if a video app could use the second mic in addition to the first in order to record stereo audio.
I'm trying to find if there is a way to decrease the microphone sensitivity, since Voodoo Sound is not compatible with US variants of the S3 due to lack of Wolfson DAC. Some people suggested using the headphones that came with the phone to record sound during video since the microphone on the headphones may be better. I also heard that putting your fingers over the microphone helps, but I'd have to try and see.
Here is a video I took recently at a show I went to over the weekend. I was literally inches away so I know that doesn't help my case. Skip to 1:10 to get to the louder portion.
Covering the microphone
I can tell you that covering the bottom microphone isn't sufficient to record loud events (but it helps). I didn't know there was a top microphone at the time. I might have an opportunity to try that this weekend.
haha the Stone Pony. My ex always used to get me to go there, only to find it full of 40ish year old women trying desperately to pretend they're still in their 20s. I prefer Porta, much more attractive girls and they serve pizza!
I know there are quite a few complaints about the speaker/sound quality on the N5, but I'm wondering if I'm actually experiencing a situation different than the typical complaints. When I have my volume at max, the sound is distorted and "vibraty" (it gives off that vibrational distorted sound, if that makes any sense). Is that what most people are experiencing? I want to make sure that I don't have a defective device, and that this horrid sound quality is the phone "working as intended."
Thanks in advance.
Lyxdeslic said:
I know there are quite a few complaints about the speaker/sound quality on the N5, but I'm wondering if I'm actually experiencing a situation different than the typical complaints. When I have my volume at max, the sound is distorted and "vibraty" (it gives off that vibrational distorted sound, if that makes any sense). Is that what most people are experiencing? I want to make sure that I don't have a defective device, and that this horrid sound quality is the phone "working as intended."
Thanks in advance.
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There are allready custom kernels that improve sound and loudness in the original dev. thread, you might look there to improve sound if you`re not happy bro.
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There are allready custom kernels that improve sound and loudness in the original dev. thread, you might look there to improve sound if you`re not happy bro.
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I appreciate the response. I heard that Google is sending out an update for both the sound and camera issues. I'd like to see what they take care of before I flash anything. I'm enjoying stock.
But I was wondering if the sound I'm experience is also what everyone else is experiencing. It sounds good at middle volumes, but slightly distorted at max volume. Is that normal?
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,,, enjoying stock ... wondering if the sound I'm experience is also what everyone else is experiencing. It sounds good at middle volumes, but slightly distorted at max volume. Is that normal?
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Is it normal, I can't say - IMO, it's to be expected and that's me. Take a look at the size of that mono speaker and it is by Bose, right - ain't no way it's going to compete with my 8-speakers/subwoofer Bose system setup @ home that cost a bit, urrrhhh. And, it's not going to deliver stage live quality for listening in any challenging environment - but, tune your expectations & you will be happy. I put on a decent pair of noise-cancelling audio headset & tweaked the equalizer settings, wow - I'm satisfied.
This is XDA and as others noted, there are patches & workaround but there is only so much we can do to overcome hardware limitations with design specifications. Look at the true HD screen itself - actually, it sounded pretty good paired with a Big Blue bluetooth travel speaker.
Just sit back, I would be surprised if the speaker isn't stressed out at max output with boosting & continued to work - I can live with a bit of distortion if that's the tradeoff. You can always RMA and wait for a new one to see if it's better (newer production batch #) - can you send it back & willing to wait, I won't as I will not let this beauty out of sight - too busy exploring KitKat and it's functions.
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Is it normal, I can't say - IMO, it's to be expected and that's me. Take a look at the size of that mono speaker and it is by Bose, right - ain't no way it's going to compete with my 8-speakers/subwoofer Bose system setup @ home that cost a bit, urrrhhh. And, it's not going to deliver stage live quality for listening in any challenging environment - but, tune your expectations & you will be happy. I put on a decent pair of noise-cancelling audio headset & tweaked the equalizer settings, wow - I'm satisfied.
This is XDA and as others noted, there are patches & workaround but there is only so much we can do to overcome hardware limitations with design specifications. Look at the true HD screen itself - actually, it sounded pretty good paired with a Big Blue bluetooth travel speaker.
Just sit back, I would be surprised if the speaker isn't stressed out at max output with boosting & continued to work - I can live with a bit of distortion if that's the tradeoff. You can always RMA and wait for a new one to see if it's better (newer production batch #) - can you send it back & willing to wait, I won't as I will not let this beauty out of sight - too busy exploring KitKat and it's functions.
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Great response. Thank you. I think I'll simply look past it. I always have headphones on anyway, and I'm pleased with the output in that department. Cheers.
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