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[Q] Rooting Other's Phones / GB Update

My Mom recently got the G2X per my advice, and is complaining about the battery. I can root her device, freeze bloatware, install juicedefender/setcpu, but since she lives out of town, I'm afraid if she wants to exchange the device, it would be difficult to talk her through the unrooting steps.
Should I wait for the GB update and hope the battery gets a major improvement w/o needing to root, or go ahead and root it?

bamabruin said:
My Mom recently got the G2X per my advice, and is complaining about the battery. I can root her device, freeze bloatware, install juicedefender/setcpu, but since she lives out of town, I'm afraid if she wants to exchange the device, it would be difficult to talk her through the unrooting steps.
Should I wait for the GB update and hope the battery gets a major improvement w/o needing to root, or go ahead and root it?
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One fix you could have your mom try is setting the network preference to WCDMA ONLY. If she is in an area that has good/great 4G coverage, she would not have to worry too much about it losing all bars and trying to reduce to 2G as it does by default when set to GSM/WCDMA AUTO.
It's goes against all logic because WCDMA ONLY (4G/3G only) should eat up more battery, but there seems to be some sort of bug that makes it conserve energy when not on auto and not trying to switch back and forth.
Again...maybe give it a try if she has good 4G coverage where she lives, works, plays etc. Since yesterday morning when I first tried this, my battery life went from an average of 5-6 hours, to an average of 12-14 hours. All with fairly heavy use of GPS, WIFI, Web, Calls etc.
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Network Mode > WCDMA ONLY. Reboot device....fingers crossed
Good Luck!!

Wait till GB is your best bet in that situation

I know I dont post on here often but ive had several android devices and this phone is the worst in battery life. Was getting 8 hours, max
What I did that helped was root the phone and inastalled setcpu and changed the default sync times of facebook weather bug e lite ect to two hours and finally I get a full days use. (16) hours or more I still have bluetooth wifi qnd gps on. I hope this helps.
Oh and I do toggle 4g / hspa and edge when I know I wont be around a charger this makes the battery last about 20 hours for me.
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What's your settings for setcpu?

323 min 1k max nvidia tegra 2 for.device selection
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323 min 1k max nvidia tegra 2 for.device selection
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I'm assuming that's screen off correct?

I haven't rooted my phone neither have installed setcpu. I have installed only juice defender and I get more than a day of battery life. I used to get only 6 hours max before.
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Set cpu manages the speed based on demand.
If your talking about battery time then its what I call moderate use of about 40 text and hour of talk time and glancing at engadget.mobile for a couple of minutes.
Not like today im using this thng like crazy and sitting at half battery now . Took off the charger ar 8 and its almost four now
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Do you use SetCPU in conjunction with JuiceDefender, or should it be one or the other?

I am rooted but am running stock, I have juice defender installed and get a full day out of my battery. Unplug at 7am in the morning, moderate use during the day including games, txting, and gaming and then by the time i go to bed at around 11pm or so I am usually down to 20% or so. Juice defender is amazing. According to my battery stats I have been unplugged for 7hrs 27 mins and I am at 80%

bamabruin said:
Do you use SetCPU in conjunction with JuiceDefender, or should it be one or the other?
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I use both works great.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me.... "

Finally at 2% battery just to show these mods work
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[Q] Help with battery Life on my Lg G2x Please! (without updating the phone)

Hey there im brand new to this forum and android in general i just sitched from an iphone to the Lg G2x. I have to say the G2x is incredible but my battery life isn't i get on average 5 to 6 hrs of battery life (lose about 20% every hour) as others i have installed juice defender ultimate, setcpu, and watchdog. In addition to all these apps i uninstalled apps like T-mobile app pack and wifi calling because these apparently use up a lot of battery. So my question is if there any tips you guys can give me or setting for my phone or apps because maybe i have everything i need installed but with the wrong settings any help at all would be great thank you in advance
Info that might help:
As of now the juice defender app reports: 1.36x improvement

Well im assuming your running stock ROM and kernel...so the best and easiest thing i can tell you is just buy an extended battery ....they last alot longer, if you get the right one...
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Are you using the phone constantly?
Mixalot213 said:
Hey there im brand new to this forum and android in general i just sitched from an iphone to the Lg G2x. I have to say the G2x is incredible but my battery life isn't i get on average 5 to 6 hrs of battery life (lose about 20% every hour) as others i have installed juice defender ultimate, setcpu, and watchdog. In addition to all these apps i uninstalled apps like T-mobile app pack and wifi calling because these apparently use up a lot of battery. So my question is if there any tips you guys can give me or setting for my phone or apps because maybe i have everything i need installed but with the wrong settings any help at all would be great thank you in advance
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As of now the juice defender app reports: 1.36x improvement
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Download spare parts, go to battery history, and look at partial wake lock.
If you see a bar going across the screen or even most of the way, that's your culprit.
Also games like Words With Friends kills battery life with its polling service.

@Texan28
Well idk i tried to post pictures to display all that info but since im a new member i cant post links to pictures yet and well how much are they because ive heard there rather expensive
@ enoch861
No i would say average use most of the time just texting (usually is periodic not constant) , very little email checking and little or no facebook use but most of the time the phone is just sitting like for example right now Cell Stanby is at:49% and phone idle at 52% personally i think its to high but idk is that normal?
@Scyth3
Installed the app but no apps seem to be giving trouble all that have a status bar are very small

Once you've confirmed that you're not seeing any rogue app activity then uninstall watchdog. You don't need an app monitor or task killer running constantly on your phone.
Turn off auto brightness and set screen brightness somewhere around 20-25%. Under Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wifi Settings > *Press Menu* > Advanced Settings change wifi sleep policy to never. Turn wifi off when you're not going to be connected to a wifi network. Set your email/Facebook/twitter/weather/etc apps to sync either manually or at least less frequently.
Your biggest battery killers are going to be your screen brightness and your cellular radio. Juice defender can help control some of the cell radio by keeping data turned off when you don't need it. Also consider if you have poor signal your phone might also be always switching from 4G to 2G then it'll use more battery.
Don't bother with disabling GPS. Your phone only uses it when an app needs it anyway.
G2X CM7

Also, I'm assuming you've rooted your phone since you said you've removed wifi calling and other T-Mobile stuff. In that case, open setcpu and create a couple of profiles. Create a Screen Off profile with max/min values of 312/216MHz. Also create an In Call profile with max/min values of 1000/216 and set the priority slider higher than the screen off profile. I do this because when the screen goes off during a phone call I still want my phone to have plenty of processor power available. And I don't set it lower than 1000 because I'm often doing other things with my phone while I'm on a call.
G2X CM7

Then there's something wrong with your phone or a rogue app. I text a lot also and use my phone moderately to heavily. But I still get a whole day of use from the phone. Its surprising.
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@phburks I Actually have those settings on my phone however the setcpu i dont because i cant set those numbers for some reason it only lets me set default for example it goes from 245MHz to 384MHz (on the sliding adjuster)
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?

No sir. Not that I know of.
But I would try to do a reset of the phone first anand run it a couple of days without really installing anything. If you get better battery life then it could be due to an app that you had installed. At that point you can start reinstalling your Apps one at a time in order of importance.
Now of that doesn't fix it, it could be a hardware issue.
Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?
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Mixalot213 said:
@phburks I Actually have those settings on my phone however the setcpu i dont because i cant set those numbers for some reason it only lets me set default for example it goes from 245MHz to 384MHz (on the sliding adjuster)
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?
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In setcpu have you tried hitting Menu > Device Selection and then selecting the Tegra 2 option at the top? You might have it set up for the wrong device.
As for the battery life in general, 5-6 hours on light to moderate usage as you described is not normal for this phone. When I was on my stock rom unrooted I could still get at least 10-12 good hours and I use my phone a lot, mostly for texting and web browsing.
Are you in an area with weak cell signal?
Are there any other preinstalled apps from T-Mobile that are still installed?
G2X CM7

@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
@phburks
ok thnx i fixed the setcpu settings and no not really but idk if having in on a gsm carrier(Simple Mobile) makes a difference but yea thats why im trying to get this fixed because 5-6 hrs is really not enough i mean if i can at least get it to 10-12 hrs id be happy with that its great improvement and um well just google maps, news and weather, smarshare, talk, telenav, voicew search, youtube etc the only ones i made sure to get rid of was t-mobile app pack and wifi calling

It shouldn't unroot it.
what do you mean by relock?
Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
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Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
@phburks
ok thnx i fixed the setcpu settings and no not really but idk if having in on a gsm carrier(Simple Mobile) makes a difference but yea thats why im trying to get this fixed because 5-6 hrs is really not enough i mean if i can at least get it to 10-12 hrs id be happy with that its great improvement and um well just google maps, news and weather, smarshare, talk, telenav, voicew search, youtube etc the only ones i made sure to get rid of was t-mobile app pack and wifi calling
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I'd get rid of telenav too.
As for a reset, do you have clockworkmod recovery installed? Just boot into that and do a full reset. You wont lose root but you WILL lose any apps you installed, personal settings, text messages.
G2X CM7

@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
@phburks
i actually dont but as long as my phone remains unlocked and rooted im willing to try resetting it after all ove heard good things about it helping with battery life but can you walk me through it?

No. It shouldn't.
Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
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Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
@phburks
i actually dont but as long as my phone remains unlocked and rooted im willing to try resetting it after all ove heard good things about it helping with battery life but can you walk me through it?
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If by unlocking you mean the SIM being unlocked to work on other cell networks, then you have nothing to worry about. A factory reset wont mess with that
As for performing a factory reset, go into Settings > Privacy and choose Factory Data Reset. Make sure you back up any texts/MMS you want to keep. All personal files/photos on your sdcard will be preserved but you'll have to reinstall any apps you want.
Since you still have stock recovery you can also power off the phone and then hold Volume Down + Power for like 10 or more seconds till you see the Android unpacking icon, and it will reset that way.
It shouldn't mess with root.
G2X CM7

If your phone's rooted, which it seems to be, download the battery calibration app from the market. It's free, and helped my battery life immensely. Basically charge it up to 100%, use the app. It deletes the battery stats file so android can make a new one. Run it all the way down to empty, then charge it back up to 100% and you should be good to go.

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If your phone's rooted, which it seems to be, download the battery calibration app from the market. It's free, and helped my battery life immensely. Basically charge it up to 100%, use the app. It deletes the battery stats file so android can make a new one. Run it all the way down to empty, then charge it back up to 100% and you should be good to go.
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how exactly is a program that measures the battery helping the battery life?
OP, I am using Xboarders latest 2.3.3 rom and have had the phone on 9 hours and am at 70%. I use set cpu to slow down teh processor when the screen is off and I use juice defender to turn off data, wifi, etc when the screen is off.

@ enoch861 thanks thats a relief
@phburks thanks im gonna go ahead and try it by the way when i perform it is there anything i should be doing or avoid doing (For example removieng certain apps or anything like that ?)
@Danishswag Tried it already it didnt help

[Q] Turning off HTC Sense... Benefits?

Ok, So I searched through some of the battery threads and no one mentioned turning off HTC sense... So does turning it off and using just a simple launcher help with battery life?
For some reason my battery is being murdered, and I haven't done anything different. I am assuming my battery may be shot, but I don't feel like buying a new one, when I will probably be getting a new phone soon. I am, however, going to use some of the pointers I found in other threads, such as system tuner to under-clock my phone.
I have considered a system reset as well, have no idea if that could help, but may be worth a try.

I wondered the same thing.

If you qant tht, just use pyranid3d xe nosense version. Its no sense but still has all sense apps like music etc
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Might be because the widgets and apps you're using are causing the phone to be constantly on. (i.e. Facebook refreshing every 15 minutes would drain battery faster as opposed to once an hour.)
Sense could be part of your problem, but it's definitely not your biggest one. I would attribute it to something like mobile data always on or something similar.
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Double tap, mods pls remove.

nrvnqsrxk said:
Might be because the widgets and apps you're using are causing the phone to be constantly on. (i.e. Facebook refreshing every 15 minutes would drain battery faster as opposed to once an hour.)
Sense could be part of your problem, but it's definitely not your biggest one. I would attribute it to something like mobile data always on or something similar.
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Well I just found out that I cant underclock since my phone isnt rooted...
Shouldnt my data be on all the time? If not, what can I use to control it?
I think I am going to reset my phone, and go from there, checking everything is updating on wide intervals. Or not on at all.

D_monie3 said:
Well I just found out that I cant underclock since my phone isnt rooted...
Shouldnt my data be on all the time? If not, what can I use to control it?
I think I am going to reset my phone, and go from there, checking everything is updating on wide intervals. Or not on at all.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316046
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Suggestion: Black Screen of DEATH & Charging Problems

So I was looking through the developers site located HERE: http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-250-tango-development-kits & found this;
"In certain power saving configurations, touching the screen or "Android buttons" at the top of the device is not adequate to wake the device. To work around this, try inserting or ejecting the SD Card to wake the device. Failing that, you will need to reset or power cycle the Tango. Alternatively, please set the screen timeout to 30 minutes (Menu->Settings->Display->Screen Timeout)."
Seems like the BSOD issues are in the 'Tango' version of the Tegra 2 processor & this (which was located in the Known Issues section) is Nvidia's solution. So I plan on testing this workaround (re-inserting micro SD) to see if this can replace a battery pull. As most of us know the other way of preventing BSOD is by setting the sleep mode to never & this seems to work for some & is recommended by Nvidia. So if you can give this a try, Plz let us know the results.
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Does never sleep, effect batt life or conflict with set cpu?
Thanks for your informative post.
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missaellpzchvz said:
So I was looking through the developers site located HERE: http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-250-tango-development-kits & found this;
"In certain power saving configurations, touching the screen or "Android buttons" at the top of the device is not adequate to wake the device. To work around this, try inserting or ejecting the SD Card to wake the device. Failing that, you will need to reset or power cycle the Tango. Alternatively, please set the screen timeout to 30 minutes (Menu->Settings->Display->Screen Timeout)."
Seems like the BSOD issues are in the 'Tango' version of the Tegra 2 processor & this (which was located in the Known Issues section) is Nvidia's solution. So I plan on testing this workaround (re-inserting micro SD) to see if this can replace a battery pull. As most of us know the other way of preventing BSOD is by setting the sleep mode to never & this seems to work for some & is recommended by Nvidia. So if you can give this a try, Plz let us know the results.
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I just reboot my phone before I go to sleep. It's a lot easier and is more of a preventative option.
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shovelhead83 said:
Does never sleep, effect batt life or conflict with set cpu?
Thanks for your informative post.
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No problem. Yes it could, depending on your settings for both SetCPU & how your charging your phone. The thing with setting your phone to not sleep while charging is that it's only a workaround so that if you charge your phone overnight your phone will have less probability of turning off during the night so that you won't suffering from the alarm never going off & or you having to battery pull. Charging overnight is never recommended for Lithium Ion Batteries but for some people its the only time they have to charge their phone and so this trick is useful to them. So unless you potentially need this then by all means use it but take notice of your SetCPU settings & how your charging your phone so that you don't have even more issues.
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set charging profile in SetCPU to 400-500Mhz

I was getting the SOD while charging quite frequently only after I rooted, not once did I get it before root. I did the never sleep trick about a week ago, no problems since, still have my fingers crossed, as this is my alarm clock.

I just start the clock and put it in "Night mode" before I goto bed and never have any issues.

I set to never sleep and have not had a BSOD since, thank you. Now if I could just stop the random reboots. This phone is frustrating.
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shovelhead83 said:
I set to never sleep and have not had a BSOD since, thank you. Now if I could just stop the random reboots. This phone is frustrating.
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I can't really solve your random reboots but I can give you a suggestion. I recommend a complete reset of what ever rom your using (data, cache, clean system, ex: no themes, apps & or just a fresh install) then install one by one each app, unless you absolutely need an app, maybe an app install per day or every few hours, this is to pick out the app that might be the cause for random reboots. A fresh install might even solve your issues. Also, refrain from using titanium backup batch restore or even app data restore unless it's absolutely necessary (ex:game data, logins or settings you absolutely need). Lastly here are some apps that I have found that have created this reboot issue on my phone and that you may what to test first: seekdroid (or any app that request administrator permissions), large games (mostly games that rely on sdcard files to run), and system modification apps (apps that ask for superuser permissions & modify system data).
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thanks
missaellpzchvz said:
"In certain power saving configurations, touching the screen or "Android buttons" at the top of the device is not adequate to wake the device. To work around this, try inserting or ejecting the SD Card to wake the device. Failing that, you will need to reset or power cycle the Tango. Alternatively, please set the screen timeout to 30 minutes (Menu->Settings->Display->Screen Timeout)."
Seems like the BSOD issues are in the 'Tango' version of the Tegra 2 processor & this (which was located in the Known Issues section) is Nvidia's solution. So I plan on testing this workaround (re-inserting micro SD) to see if this can replace a battery pull. As most of us know the other way of preventing BSOD is by setting the sleep mode to never & this seems to work for some & is recommended by Nvidia. So if you can give this a try, Plz let us know the results.
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Thank you very much for the information. Ill start testing 30minutes timeout now, this way locking the screen using the power button to save battery.

HORRIBLE battery life after November 16 update.

Hey all
I have a Sprint Galaxy S 6 that I just updated with an update that claimed to be to improve "battery drain".
It is losing 13% in a half hour without using the phone.
I have no apps running.
I go to settings and it seems that Google Play services is always the one that uses most of the battery.
I never got great battery life but this update seemed to make it worse.
Am I missing something big???
Any advise would be appreciated.
Mike in St. Louis

mikeinstlouis said:
Hey all
I have a Sprint Galaxy S 6 that I just updated with an update that claimed to be to improve "battery drain".
It is losing 13% in a half hour without using the phone.
I have no apps running.
I go to settings and it seems that Google Play services is always the one that uses most of the battery.
I never got great battery life but this update seemed to make it worse.
Am I missing something big???
Any advise would be appreciated.
Mike in St. Louis
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Probably your phone won't go into deepsleep. This is caused by wakelocks and alarms. You can fix this by rooting your phone and install powernap or factory resetting your phone & start all over again.
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_SDroid said:
Probably your phone won't go into deepsleep. This is caused by wakelocks and alarms. You can fix this by rooting your phone and install powernap or factory resetting your phone & start all over again.
Hit thanks if I helped you - LG G3 D855
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I would rather not root my phone... I did it with my last three phones and was more trouble than it was worth for me. The phone has all of the features that I like and I don't have a need to flash ROMS.
Any other suggestions?

mikeinstlouis said:
I would rather not root my phone... I did it with my last three phones and was more trouble than it was worth for me. The phone has all of the features that I like and I don't have a need to flash ROMS.
Any other suggestions?
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In that case factory reset your phone, this will delete all of your apps and data so also the wakelocks and alarms. From then your phone will go into deepsleep and you won't lose so much juice when you don't use the phone

Hi, I'm also having battery life issues. I've factory formatted from recovery menu, but I still get battery issues. I charge my phone about 3 times a day and I don't have any significant drain according to the battery usage settings.
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Plain Water said:
Hi, I'm also having battery life issues. I've factory formatted from recovery menu, but I still get battery issues. I charge my phone about 3 times a day and I don't have any significant drain according to the battery usage settings.
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The same here. I have everything okay according to battery stats. But I lose like 5-8% an hour when screen doesn't work. Don't know what to do.

I basically surf the net and use WhatsApp. By early afternoon, I'm down to 60% battery. I unplug my charger at 6am everyday.
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I'm curious if you have cell satndby being used constantly, as that is my problem.
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