[Q] Quadrant scores have changed after dropping phone. - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After dropping my phone onto concrete without a cover from a height of about 1 meter (3.3 ft), I've noticed that the FPS in the quadrant tests have changed.
It used to show 40 to 70 fps for all visual tests, but now for two of them the FPS has dropped to 5 to 15 (while the others remain unchanged).
My quadrant score has also decreased about 200.
I'm not sure if it's just me or a quadrant update or something, but has anyone else experienced this?

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Do you remember the bit in terminator 2 where Robert Patric stabs Arnie through the chest with a long iron pole, and his machine glowing red eye just flickers and fizzles out? But soon after he re-routes power and comes back to life? Well, your phone just needs a vacation.
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200 points isnt a decrease. i can vary in a run of quadrants by more than 1500 points. 200 points is nothing. have you flashed/updated a rom/kernel lately?

You used to get 70 FPS on NS? :O i thought it was limited to 65

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[Q] Quadrant Score???

How is it that I see alot of people benchmarking 2400+ on the benchmark? I have done the benchmark on the TnT Lite 2.4.0 and Vegan beta4 and both performed around 600-800. This is just from regular flash. Is it overclocking or killing all apps other than the benchmark test before proceeding with test? Does the livewalpaper matter?
Thanks!
I get consistent 2300+, and what you are getting is the behavior of wakeup bug in which when tablet wakeup from the long sleep like overnight, it gets stuck on 500+ quadrant score with subpar performance.
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TnT results should be around:
1800 for 2.2
2400 for 2.4 though 3.1
I had 570 average scores using TnT 3.1 (out of sleep mode or also perhaps a combo of apps- not sure what consistently caused it) and rolled back to 3.0. Could not figure out why, but rolling back to 3.0 made things 2400 again and got me out of lag city.
Just did mine on TnT Lite 3.1.1 and got a score of CRAP.. never mind.. it just Force Closed on me before I could remember what it was. LOL
Standby... time to re-do it.
Ok result is: 2542
rushless said:
TnT results should be around:
1800 for 2.2
2400 for 2.4 though 3.1
I had 570 average scores using TnT 3.1 (out of sleep mode or also perhaps a combo of apps- not sure what consistently caused it) and rolled back to 3.0. Could not figure out why, but rolling back to 3.0 made things 2400 again and got me out of lag city.
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I can confirm for stock TNT 3053, about 1800+ consistently.
Jim
I just killed all apps except for 4 essential apps. Got a lower score of 591. The tablet seems responsive to me. Even played some dungeon heros and I did not experience any lag.
I will have to benchmark the other two tablets and see how they do.
Edit: Redid the benchmark after a reboot and got 2356! which is a significant increase-value wise. My eyes and perception of time deceive me though as I do not notice a difference in usability from when I got the 500-600 scores recently to the 2356 after reboot. I will look into the calendar and autostart problems, see if those are what are keeping my scores down.
Reboot, kill any running apps and you should get some high scores (2000+).
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I can confirm for stock TNT 3053, about 1800+ consistently.
Jim
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Did 2 more tests, after pressing power button to wake Gtab, and got 1800+ for each test. Didn't do anything special like killing tasks. Again, this is with 3053 stock.
Jim
1800+ avgs seem to be the norm for stock on this device.
I don't know if the 2000+ scores are due to real performance gains or because of the partitioning and swap used in prepping the installation of those ROMs. Since Quadrant is synthetic it doesn't handle certain 'optimizations' added by code well and may misreport the scores. In reality 2000+ may really be 1800 or less, and 600 may also be running higher than reported.
Quadrant Advanced is better in that it gives you details. Much of the score we get on the G Tablet is from the powerful CPU and the abundant memory. TnT lite and VegaN may show 'boosts' to things like the I/O which is normally what is misrepresented as it's not weighted in the app. This is why many Galaxy S phones got 'fake' 2000+ scores due to the Lag Fix and in real testing they were performing at nominally higher than their 900 avging stock, but nowhere close to 2200 which is what most would avg. Testing a Vibrant with lag fix reporting 23xx in fact wasn't even working as fast/quick as a desire HD at 19xx.
I still haven't been able to get my device to slow down after sleep, so I guess that's something I'll have to do when I wake up later. Maybe a longer sleep time will aid me in achieving this. I have also tried everything to get the battery to drain faster, just in case there is some correlation...but I'm hovering at 84% and it's bedtime (according to my wife ).
If anyone else out there has Quadrant Advanced and is on stock and getting the slowdown - if you'd run it and give me some numbers I'd really appreciate it.
Numbers for stock 3899 + Google Apps are as follows:
Avg: 1917 in 3 runs. The avg isn't a calculation, it just means that's the score I got on the 3rd run. Under optimal conditions, the CPU should have maxed out by the 3rd run - but some people keep doing it and use the score that tapers off as max. It should get between 1830 and 1930 with stock.
CPU: 4916
Mem: 2730
IO: 1159
2D: 200
3D: 582
I expect the CPU number to be less than 1/2 during a 'slowdown'.
I expect the rest to be roughly the same.
If you're running a ROM like VegaN or TnT...I'm expecting everything to be the same except I/O which will be higher and maybe 2D/3D because of the newer Tegra drivers.
Update! Finally the pad slowed down just now. It's showing 35% on the battery meter. Not that there's any correlation but I've linked it - just because that's the only time I see the slowdown.
Total: 441
CPU: 918
Memory: 547
IO: 293
2D: 47
3D: 398
The slowing of the CPU has taken a toll on everything else. I thought the rest would look alright but that was stupid on my part. When you run a notebook in low power mode (ex: clock it at less than max), it affects performance across the board - so there was no reason that this should be different. Just wasn't thinking :/
Anyway, there we have it. Now to find a way to fix it permanently.
I'm going to set my wifi to turn off when my screen goes off to see if that helps as someone else noted somewhere.
Putting it in airoplane made overnight did not fix the issue. It woke up with bad sleep bug.
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CPU Temp Benchmarking - Request for Help

Hi all,
I'd like to ask for some community assistance, to gather A700 temperature data. To those willing to help, please do the following:
1. Install SetCPU from XDA & System Tuner from Google Play:
SetCPU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
System Tuner:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw
2. Open up System Tuner, go to CPU, and write down what the CPU Temp is. Try doing this while nothing else is running. This will be your "idle baseline."
3. Switch over to SetCPU. Ignore all of the prompts if you are not-rooted. Go to Info->Stress Test. Run the Stress Test. It will continue to run until you stop it.
4. Wait about 2 minutes, then switch back to System Tuner. The act of switching apps will stop the Stress Test. Record the CPU temperature again.
Repeat if you wish.
Please post back with the following information:
Rooted = Yes or no
Baseline Temperature = ?
Post-Test Temperature = ?
Thanks all!!
I have not stressed the cpu with setcpu, but my baseline temp is 65 degrees celsius.
If I scroll a heavy page down and up continuously in stock browser or boat browser for half a minute, the temp goes up to 89 degrees !!!
That's really hot for a tablet...
Latoc said:
I have not stressed the cpu with setcpu, but my baseline temp is 65 degrees celsius.
If I scroll a heavy page down and up continuously in stock browser or boat browser for half a minute, the temp goes up to 89 degrees !!!
That's really hot for a tablet...
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You sure thats degree celsius? Your numbers are just way too high.. Must be in fahrenheit..
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Ravikirancg said:
You sure thats degree celsius? Your numbers are just way too high.. Must be in fahrenheit..
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Unless either System Tuner and/or the CPU sensor itself is off, then that is accurate. My results are similar.
Will run these tonight and will report back ASAP... I am very interested in seeing my numbers. Thanks for taking the initiative to start this thread...
Just ran it.
Non rooted
This is in Fahrenheit.
Base line was 119 degrees.
After 5 minutes running stress test it hit 168.3 degrees
Baseline: 47.0c
After 2 minute stress test: 79.0c
Let me know if I win something....
I have not checked the baseline but when playing a 3D game for a short while when powering up, the device rebooted itself. A few mins after that I found this thread and checked the Celsius, which was 79 °C slowly going down.
I have root.
I think it's important to mention that it was charging.
The tablet was lying flat on my bed.
These temperatures are just unacceptable.. Acer should find a hardware way to fix it and take all the devices back.
Hi
Here are figures for mine :
Not rooted yet, no case
Base : 49 Celcius
Post Stress : 67 Celcius
Room température : about 28 Celcius
During the test I held the tablet by edges for it not to lie on the bed and be hotter.
This seems quite good when I read your stats.
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Rooted = No
Baseline Temperature = 52 C (had just come off the charger--but it had been fully charged hours ago so the little light was just white as opposed to red which means charge in progress)
Post-Test Temperature = 85 C
It was in this case sitting like this on a desk.
Then I immediately opened Deer Hunt and played for about ~5-7 minutes. Checked the temp and it was 92 C! Then closed DH and did another stress test. 1 minute into the test, the system crashed & rebooted like it has before. Took a few minutes for things to open again. Opened the CPU temp app immediately and it showed it to be 88 but falling at a pretty high rate...
It's going back to Amazon... Thank you for helping me make up my mind much faster!
Thank you everyone, who has participated so far.
Here's a test sequence that I just completed, with a stopwatch.
Start up cold... in an air-conditioned room... with the back uncovered and propped up to allow airflow underneath.
* Starting baseline temp = 49C
* Ran SetCPU stress test for 3 minutes. 80C
**Waited 1 minute to cool a little.
**Ran SetCPU stress test for 5 minutes. 84C
**Waited 30 seconds to cool a little.
**Ran SetCPU stress test for 4 minutes. 90C
**Waited 30 seconds to cool a little.
**Ran SetCPU stress test for 3 minutes. 88C
**Waited 30 seconds to cool a little.
**Ran SetCPU stress test for 3 minutes. Boom, reboot at almost exactly the 3 minute mark.
So that's 18 total minutes of Stress Testing with 4 brief random breaks in between. And finally a crash.
When I picked up the A700 after each stress test stop, the back was hot. I'd call it uncomfortably hot but not "burn my hand" hot.
Resetting my display timeout to 30 minutes, then am going to run one straight stress test. Let's see how long it takes to force a reboot.
Well that was interesting.
Starting temp - 56C
* @ 3 minutes & 40 seconds, the screen momentarily "wigged out"
* Picked up @ 6 minutes. Warm but not nearly as hot as before after reboot.
* Picked up @ 10 minutes. Same, warm but not hot like before.
* Picked up @ 17 minutes. Moderately hot... expect a reboot shortly.
* Picked up @ 22 minutes. It's hot. Switched to System Tuner to check temp (which stopped the stress test)... temps steady at 89C. Immediately went back to running stress test. Maybe 20 second gap.
* Screen wigged out again at 26 minutes. Picked it up & it is moderately hot
* Reached 30 minutes! Checked temp = 91C
Decided to call it quits. Temp down to 67C after 60 seconds.
What I find most interesting is when I switched over at 22 minutes... the A700 felt hot BUT the CPU still hadn't really exceeded 90C. That makes me speculate that the reboot & "hot feeling" is more due to ambient heat buildup over time, vs the CPU being pushed beyond 90C.
Oh yeah, and the left side of the tablet is just fine. Perfectly cool & I checked the temp now - 30C and holding. I'm fairly certain now that it's all about the "gap" on the right side above the mainboard and trying to get as much heat off the mainboard and onto that back plate as possible.
Damn... I'll be honest. I like my A700... and I really want to love it. But this concerns me overall, especially in lieu of the TF700 being right on the horizon. I've PM'd a couple of folks who have received their TF700's & asked them to run the same benchmark above. Hopefully one is willing to help and will provide results soon.
I just played 20 minutes of Max Payne without issue, and while it got warm it was never scorching just warm. Watching HD movies barely makes it warm... I've never had this reboot either, maybe it was the ROM upgrade and rooting/removal. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Well I just had my first freeze.
And that was during the process of moving icons on the home screen!!!
The whole screen just turned white with vertical lines all over the screen, back panel was super hot when it crashed...
It's going back to the seller. Screw this.
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I'll run the test here's but just as a reference before I do my 470gtx on my desktop runs 90-95c regularly, nvidia nething are notorious for being hot, and that's with a full sized heat sync. I'll update in 30
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55 base to 69 on stress after 4 min.
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Sorry for multiple posts can't edit from tablet and I'm too lazy to get up, but I ran it for 30 mins and went from baseline to 87c, not too bad IMO, yes warm but as I said before, my full.l sized gpu on my desktop runs hotter and is fine. I think people are overreacting to this situation, if the warmth really bothers you I understand, but its not a danger at all.
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Not a danger at all? I don't know about your desktop GPU, but videocards should definately not get hotter than 79 Celcius degrees!
Besides, we're speaking of tablets, which should not get as hot as a desktop pc I reckon.
And if they should, they sure should not have to crash and get really hot at the right side.
I'm thinking about returning it. It's like Beknatok said, I like my A700... and I really want to love it. But this concerns me overall!
56°C Base
Temp after 6min 65°C
Nothin special with mit Asus TF700T.
Gewebekomplex said:
56°C Base
Temp after 6min 65°C
Nothin special with mit Asus TF700T.
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That sounds fairly interesting. Do you mind trying it again whilst charging?
New test:
Baseline: 51°C (It looks like it couldn't really find the Celcius degrees since it was around 59°C at first but dropping real quick constantly.)
**stresstest running for 6 minutes**
Temp: 85°C and dropping real quick again to ~70°C and then to 62°C
The back didn't get as hot as last night, when I've had my tablet flat on the bed playing a game whilst charging (80°C with a crash).
**another stresstest running for 6 minutes** -- Couldn't finish the 6 minutes, crashed after 5 minutes and rebooted..
Temp: 76°C
Again, the back wasn't hot. It sure was warm, but not hot.

HTC U 11 Temperature issues?

Hello, I have been using HTC U 11 for a couple of days now. I find it really odd that the temperature is kinda little high at all times. here are my observations.
before I start im from chennai and the avg temperate here ranges from 28 to 35 on a normal day.
I first noticed heating when I was recording a FHD video at 60FPS for more than 3 min. The camera stopped taking video due to overheat. The phone was uncomfortably hot. But then I realized maybe its because I was riding as pillion in motorcycle while recording and it was 1 PM in the afternoon with Sun burning your eyes. So I thought maybe its because of that.
then taking any 4K, hyperlapse videos increased temperature. So i used CPU temp to analyze the temperature(with back case removed) I was in a AC Hall with room temperature of around 26 degrees C and the starting temperature was 36 degrees C in my phone. Then,
I took two 4K videos 1 and 2 minutes each and the temperature went from 36 to 47 and once the video is finished it settled back to 41. the CPU was at 1900 MHz while recording and throttled down to 300Mhz once its done.
then I ran 3D Mark tests. it gave me a score of some 2.7K with an average FPS of 25 but while performing this test my CPU went to a whooping 53 degrees C and settled back to 45 degree C once its done. Normal Phone operations like FB, reddit, discord etc gives me around 36 37C which still, i feel is too much and despite being a glass body I have never felt any form of chillness even after hours of being in AC room it was always pleasantly warm when normal use to uncomfortably warm on high use.
Do you guys think that I have a defective device? I still have 4 days on free return policy with the seller. should I replace my phone?
I'd say it's normal for a phone.
Video recording and running heavy games is the most difficult tasks for smartphone (maybe now it's VR & AR), I'm not surprised at all if the temperature raises at 42 degrees or more.
Benchmark apps like 3D marks take full power of computing capability, no wonder why it gets even hotter.
Smartphone is a smartphone, not a PC nor a GoPro.
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I'd say it's normal for a phone.
Video recording and running heavy games is the most difficult tasks for smartphone (maybe now it's VR & AR), I'm not surprised at all if the temperature raises at 42 degrees or more.
Benchmark apps like 3D marks take full power of computing capability, no wonder why it gets even hotter.
Smartphone is a smartphone, not a PC nor a GoPro.
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yeah! i thought that too. actually i think for a processor like 835 normal temperature is 35 36. I do understand that Optical Image stabilization and image stitching are quite heavy tasks . maybe im paranoid. I just want to make sure it doesnt damage the phone in the long run. Also its kind of a pride thing . you see from where I am, There are tonnes of pun and memes about cheap MI phones and heating. So people around here were like you have a $700 phone(thanks to all the customs and import duties) and it heats like a $50 MI phone?. *smh*.
Do you think installing custom rom can increase performance? I really want to get rid of that HTC companion, news republic, facebook and messenger. FB sucks. it takes up almost 300MB of RAM at all times.
It would not damage your phone but as we speak of the "long-term", something you probably should know:
If you keep using your phone for heavy tasks and temperature of the device is always at 38°C or higher, it could decrease the battery life. Higher temperature would cause the loss of battery capacity. You probably should be careful.
As for MI phones, 50$ is hard to get one. And heating meme is because of Qualcomm S810 back in 2015, for HTC, Xiaomi, as well some other devices. Some people just couldn't get over it even we have S835 today.
For RAM consumption, I'd say leave it, because on the one hand, U11 has 4GB of RAM, 300MB does no harm. (the theory is, the free RAM is some sort of a waste, you don't need to be careful about the RAM usage as long as you don't experience serious lag) on the other hand, you can always disable the apps if you don't need them. Installing another ROM won't make these apps running with less RAM.

OnePlus 7 Pro Normal Temperature values

Hi guys I'm wondering what's your normal temperature values.
I've received my OP7 pro today and I started right way installing apps, restoring 4 GB of WhatsApp data, and I've found that my device was some how kind of hot.
I've decided to install AnTuTu benchmark app, and when I've started the Stress test, I've noticed temperature peaks of 80°C.
Should I be worried? Have anyone of you guys tried?
I noticed mine also got kinda hot when was wrap charging...but 10 lays of liquid cooling is 10 layers
Well, mine on charging I didn't notice any thing odd.
It as only when pushing a bit for him. And I was mesmerized with the 80 °C in the stress test. I know is supposed for that test to burn the phone, but I never thought that would reach so higher values
I believe that my only fear is that the thermal system might be wrongly attached and I don't know.
Thus me trying to understand what is the normal temperature people are having
Normal temp is 90. When you wrap charge from like 5 percent to 60ish it goes up to 108 then cools down
Thank you for your reply!
Well, you are speaking about the Battery temperature while charging.
I'm worried about the other temperatures, like CPU. Like I said, if I try to run a stress test with Antutu, the temperatures on cpu have spikes to 90°C almost.
Even though I know that's normal to have spikes like these ones, I can't stop being a bit worried about the thermal resistance of the phone itself.
I totally understand that in normal use temperatures won't go so high than on a stress test, but it's for understanding how well is the phone prepared to sustain higher temperatures during large time intervals.
djhulk2 said:
Normal temp is 90. When you wrap charge from like 5 percent to 60ish it goes up to 108 then cools down
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Your image is in F , his 80C.
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Oneplus 7 pro overheating?!

When I'm playing games such as Asphalt 9, PUBG or shadowgun legends on max resolution, max brightness and bluetooth on my Oneplus 7 pro's CPU temperature gets really hot, like really hot 73 degrees Celsius when playing for only 30 minutes. The weathers temperature is 17 degrees Celsius. Below is an attachment of the CPU's temperature graph. The screenshots are made a minute or so after closing the game Shadowgun Legends. I'm kinda worried of damaging the hardware with such temperatures. Is it normal to have such high temperatures and does it damage any of the hardware inside? And does anyone experience the same issue?
This just in! Playing graphics-intense games on a phone makes it hot! More at 11:00.
u should have gotten nubia red magic 3 instead.. op7pro is an allrounder.. perfect for modding, camera, display king etc.. it games good but if u want to replace your pc gaming with a phone u should have gone with red magic.. that thing is MADE SPECIALLY FOR THAT.
Saqrez said:
When I'm playing games such as Asphalt 9, PUBG or shadowgun legends on max resolution, max brightness and bluetooth on my Oneplus 7 pro's CPU temperature gets really hot, like really hot 73 degrees Celsius when playing for only 30 minutes. The weathers temperature is 17 degrees Celsius. Below is an attachment of the CPU's temperature graph. The screenshots are made a minute or so after closing the game Shadowgun Legends. I'm kinda worried of damaging the hardware with such temperatures. Is it normal to have such high temperatures and does it damage any of the hardware inside? And does anyone experience the same issue?
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Slash8915 said:
This just in! Playing graphics-intense games on a phone makes it hot! More at 11:00.
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I understand that a phone gets really hot while gaming but 73 degrees Celsius really scared me.
sensationvsgalaxy said:
u should have gotten nubia red magic 3 instead.. op7pro is an allrounder.. perfect for modding, camera, display king etc.. it games good but if u want to replace your pc gaming with a phone u should have gone with red magic.. that thing is MADE SPECIALLY FOR THAT.
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I really like the phone but as you say oneplus 7 pro is an allrounder. I don't play that often to buy a phone specifically for gaming but I hoped that the 10 layers cooling in the oneplus 7 pro would work a little better.
For some reason the 7 pro is set to throttle at much higher temperatures than normal, I suppose in order to preserve performance but it gets too hot and battery drains horribly fast. Personally I think they should adress this because above 50 is just too much even directly on the SOC, there have been situations like this in the past and they were adressed accordingly.
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For some reason the 7 pro is set to throttle at much higher temperatures than normal, I suppose in order to preserve performance but it gets too hot and battery drains horribly fast. Personally I think they should adress this because above 50 is just too much even directly on the SOC, there have been situations like this in the past and they were adressed accordingly.
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do you know anything about silicon? these chips can stand over 120 degrees celsius.
the SOC isnt something i'd worry about, maybe the other components, but still 50 degrees is perfectly normal.
virtyx said:
do you know anything about silicon? these chips can stand over 120 degrees celsius.
the SOC isnt something i'd worry about, maybe the other components, but still 50 degrees is perfectly normal.
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I think I should ask you that same question. It's definitely safe for the cpu to go as high as 70 C, but that heat needs to go somewhere and it will fry you fingers, so it's not really great for the user. Your 120 C claim is bollocks, you won't get close to that with any phone component, especially with newer ones, as the lower the process node, the lower the throttling temps are set(at least ideally). The 7 pro doesn't throttle as much as other devices, but it sure gets hotter than them, as anandtech has noted in their review.
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I think I should ask you that same question. It's definitely safe for the cpu to go as high as 70 C, but that heat needs to go somewhere and it will fry you fingers, so it's not really great for the user. Your 120 C claim is bollocks, you won't get close to that with any phone component, especially with newer ones, as the lower the process node, the lower the throttling temps are set(at least ideally). The 7 pro doesn't throttle as much as other devices, but it sure gets hotter than them, as anandtech has noted in their review.
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i said they can STAND that temperature, not that should get to that temperature.
IMO anything under 60-70 degrees C is safe. if it starts to climb above 70 then i would think something is wrong.
also OP phones have throttling at higher temps, it took 65 degrees for my OP6 to throttle down.
my Pixel3XL would throttle at 45-50 degrees (idle on them was 35 so its nonsense)
I know so many oneplus 7 pro users but you're the first person I've come across of this issue... I'm facing the same issue its even reaching 80°c on my OnePlus 7 pro. it wasn't earlier but this problem came after the latest update and i tried downgrading but it didnt help either so I'm pretty sure its a software bug.
Since there are only a few people OnePlus has not addressed the issue yet just make this issue more popular.
Saqrez said:
I understand that a phone gets really hot while gaming but 73 degrees Celsius really scared me.
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73° is nothing... youre phone cant overheat, it will throttle down to prevent overheating... just play and have fun.
My phone is One plus 7 pro. While charging batter get over heated at 48 degree celceius. I got the messgae display to shut the power as it will not charge the battery beyond 91%. So there is auto temp set us in the phone to take so much heat.
thanks to Oneplus design strategy.
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