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I'm an early adopter of the N1. My G1 will now only have wifi connectivity and I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use. I think the desire for that kind of optimization will only grow as people start replacing their first loves. I might be completely off-base, I have been up for a couple days. I'm not even sure what I want when I say optimization. But I didn't know what I wanted from custom roms when I got my first G1 and now I can't wait until Cyanogen drops his first full rom for the N1.
I see where you are comming from.. as I LOVE my G1 and at the same time lusting for the N1. I would like to have another use for the G1, something like a media center remote.. or anything.
I think this is a good idea and look forward to some of the dev responses.
You dont need a special rom for it without service. If you dont have service then phone and the like just wont work. Uninstall what you dont want. But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.
i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
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garok89 said:
i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
furthermore - wrong section
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lol.. OMG dude your sig is so right. I used to love helping people with anythign electronicall or software related... Since I joined here I realized, noone wants help... they want someone to hold their hand and do it for them. Bunch of ungreatfull spoiled brats.
Sorry, but this will get moved or deleted anyway lol
thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)
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thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)
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Classic! I love the auto-response...
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But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.
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If the device no longer needs to maintain the functionality of a phone, the door is even wider open. It could, for example, be a rom with debian cooked in, or it could be something like no6969el described.
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Really? This is not the place to discuss a certain type of rom?
I think the both of you are too closed minded.
you are asking a question, not contributing to the good of the android community
they answer is simple - yes...but pointless
i am far from close minded - i am always up for expanding the capabilities of my phone....not detracting from them like this idea
you can use the phone as a media centre remote with the aid of a simple app on the market
you can disable mobile data and use only wifi
you can reprogram the call button to do whatever you want
you can install debian/ubuntu rather easily and use it with vncviewer
all these things can already be done using stock android - nevermind having to modify it
Nothing I have said or asked has detracted from android. Asking questions has its place in development, it causes thinking. Re-purposing old gen hardware happens, sometimes with fantastic results. First generation android devices, like the G1, have many possibilities other than telephony.
I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use.
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i do believe that is asking a general question
anyway, i am not here to argue... i just feel that the original question belonged in the QnA section
Why are there a lack of N1 themes. I thought there would be more. Can someone let me know where a good place to grab some themes. either metamorph or flashing. looks like the G1 still has the best themes can these be easily ported to N1? can other phone MM themes be used on the N1. help need more options.
Why don't you work on creating some? Better yet, you could mock the people that do work hard making them with threads like these.
The lower resolution themes can be ported, just would take resizing every image. Themes for the Droid can be easily ported over since the images are the same size.
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Why don't you work on creating some? Better yet, you could mock the people that do work hard making them with threads like these.
The lower resolution themes can be ported, just would take resizing every image. Themes for the Droid can be easily ported over since the images are the same size.
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This. Period.
Don't say "I don't know how" because at one time, David1171, Jairomeo, Formel or myself didn't know how either. But we figured it out. (there are many more themers, those were just a few that came to mind quickly) There are many many posts throughout xda that give a ton of good information. Get that search button working and get busy.
To put it simply, **** or get off the pot.
Wow... you two should probably calm down. The guy wasn't being rude, obviously he was more or less surprised by the fact that there really aren't a ton of themes available for the N1, which is true. This is the problem with XDA, people are always ready to attack other members. How about you guys just worry about yourselves instead of others, and don't assume that just reading tips and how to's will automatically mean people will be able to do something. We need to encourage each other not be smart asses.
@ ced8525 The reason for the lack of themes in my opinion is the user base of the N1 is significantly smaller while the G1/MT3G/Droid. For that reason alone, there is going to be less themes and it also depends on which phones our wonderful themers have.
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Wow... you two should probably calm down. The guy wasn't being rude, obviously he was more or less surprised by the fact that there really aren't a ton of themes available for the N1, which is true. This is the problem with XDA, people are always ready to attack other members. How about you guys just worry about yourselves instead of others, and don't assume that just reading tips and how to's will automatically mean people will be able to do something. We need to encourage each other not be smart asses.
@ ced8525 The reason for the lack of themes in my opinion is the user base of the N1 is significantly smaller while the G1/MT3G/Droid. For that reason alone, there is going to be less themes and it also depends on which phones our wonderful themers have.
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Good post!
Well, it is so:
Making a theme is not done in 5 Minutes. If you go to work, has an own home, two children and a wife you don't have too much time.
As hard as it sounds:
The day already has only 24 hours.
I did my "themes" at first for me. I want to have my phone so, as I like it.
Then I decide to share it. I like it, when I look into this Forum and somebody pat me on the back.
This is great and the factor, why I share that.
I have spent many hours in the www and got to know nice people.
The Nexus is new. In most countries you cant buy a nexus.
I think, if the nexus is buyable an all countries, there will be more people how can change some icons and graphics.
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At second:
Load you a few themes, change the graphics and try a bit. We love to see more people, who can do this.
Sorry, this post wasn't easy to me, because my native language is not english.
No need to calm down. I'm not the one whining there are no themes for the Nexus. Which is wrong. I look at the first 5 pages of this forum and I count about 15 themes/morphs. And thats only the first 5 pages. This phone has been out for 2 months and there are already 15 themes on the first 5 pages of the forum. If that's not good enough for someone, they can make their own. It's attitudes like that that make people NOT want to do anything.
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No need to calm down. I'm not the one whining there are no themes for the Nexus. Which is wrong. I look at the first 5 pages of this forum and I count about 15 themes/morphs. And thats only the first 5 pages. This phone has been out for 2 months and there are already 15 themes on the first 5 pages of the forum. If that's not good enough for someone, they can make their own. It's attitudes like that that make people NOT want to do anything.
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I think your right the rate at which the themes are coming out is great and while there may not be enough for that person now there sure should be in a few months lol, I mean ow many themes can you use at 1 given time
I being new to Android (Long time Sony Ericsson user) have been searching around on how to create themes and iv found a few places but its not all straight forward information.
I dont mean to be to direct but could you (or another great theme creator) make a quick How To thread on themes, from making the 9png files and editing them etc
While i was using my old SE phone i learned alot, i started porting firmware patches and became a regular source in the forums for porting but now i want to get my hands stuck into doing themes but dont really now where to start
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I think your right the rate at which the themes are coming out is great and while there may not be enough for that person now there sure should be in a few months lol, I mean ow many themes can you use at 1 given time
I being new to Android (Long time Sony Ericsson user) have been searching around on how to create themes and iv found a few places but its not all straight forward information.
I dont mean to be to direct but could you (or another great theme creator) make a quick How To thread on themes, from making the 9png files and editing them etc
While i was using my old SE phone i learned alot, i started porting firmware patches and became a regular source in the forums for porting but now i want to get my hands stuck into doing themes but dont really now where to start
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Those threads have already been made and remade. Look around in the Android Themes forum and the G1 Theme forum.
If you want to make a morph, I have already written up a pretty nice tutorial for that, located here
There is also a copy of the .9.png tutorial located over on www.nexus-nation.com (figured since I left Manup out of the themer list earlier I would give a shout to his website since he is one of the biggest and best themers)
making a android rom if u want join in u can just message me or replied to this. the rom would work on 3 devices one is samsungjack,blackjack1,2 and the htc snap, an one more sorry its going to be only 4 got carry away.This rom would have htc icons and new different homescreen with a android digital clock like real androids but going to be small and it may be having a new bootscreen thats going to be customize to work on these devices and not harming them the next features it would have is maybe a better quality to the phone ,give the rom htc 3d weather that i been working for quit somtime like almost 3 weeks been working on it and for last it would have is new battery just like my other project i finish yesterday 3/30/10 and new signal icons and much more.THAt why my team needs your help to make this happen for all you windowsmobile standard fans.
If you want to get your htc android on your phone now just follow this link in plz replied of what you think of the improvements that i put into it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654166
sorry if got your hopes up but the rom wont be starting untillthe beginning of may due to bugs in my other app and working on windowsmobil7series stuff like a app lockscreenand much more.thats why its not going to be develop this month but u cancan help when we start developing it for the devices that i had said.im am real sorry but not that bad working on windowsmobile7seris and working on the htc app/theme u can still enjoy them.
Hi...
Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
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Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
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ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.
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ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.
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there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?
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there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?
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ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android
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ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android
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i didnt do nothing to u and u acting like we making it we still dont know if we are still making it because we got to see would this work and right now we are just thinking and designing how we are going to do this anyway and if we do make it just going to have new htc icons a new scroll bar,change the front homescreen buttons to look like htc buttons and maybe change the interface and startmenu to look alittle more good looking and that all we would do.now calm down with all of this.you are like the only annoying person i ever seen if u dont like then leave me alone then im just trying to make my device and other devices look better then it planself and for others who is reading this sorry to anyone
and ya i do make apps just finish it two days ago nottach
What "app" have you created that isn't just other people's work bundled into a single package?
So you want Andriod on your Jack to make it look pretty? So you want an Andriod theme. Not the OS. There's a section here on xda specifically for themes. you should be posting there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=525
Are you using Google translate for posting? I probably wouldn't have posted that if you weren't constantly butchering my native language. Your posts are a bunch of incoherent random thoughts. Learn some grammar and punctuation. Even the native Chinese or Spanish speaker's posts are more proper than yours, and you live in the U.S., according to your flag.
You joined Jan 2010 and you've got over 250 posts! And in 250 posts you said something informative maybe twice.
Take your eyes off your phone, stop thinking how you can make it prettier, make the world prettier.
stll looking for more people who wants to join this team to make this rom happen.Already have 4 people so far need 2 more people who are good at designing and a person who knows alot about windowsmobile phones like me but u have to know lot about standard devices thene we would be able to get started on the rom
This may seem like a redundant request but if you are or are GOING to be deving for this device could you post your Twitter or G+ id's here so we can follow your work?
That would be great.
+1 ...we fought for a forum...now no development...kinda disheartening.
I guess I need to get back with it now that I have kernel source...
You could follow me all you want, but you probably won't like where I'll lead. I usually don't bother with twitter, g+, facebook, or any other "social" site. (On the other hand, if you find any anti-social sites, please let me know.)
need to brainwash the tab8.9/10.1 developers to do the custom ROMs for us as well..
btw, what are we looking for in a new custom ROM?
EXT4, i think Samsung already moved to this...
Optimization
- Hardware Acceleration? Already ON by default in Honeycomb, I have done this mod and no difference at all.. it depends on the app to utilize this feature...
Theming ? Once rooted, you can modify the framework files.. should be quite easy, but abit time consuming... and requires creativity...
- Bloat removal? just ROOT and remove those excess fats..
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need to brainwash the tab8.9/10.1 developers to do the custom ROMs for us as well..
btw, what are we looking for in a new custom ROM?
EXT4, i think Samsung already moved to this...
Optimization
- Hardware Acceleration? Already ON by default in Honeycomb, I have done this mod and no difference at all.. it depends on the app to utilize this feature...
Theming ? Once rooted, you can modify the framework files.. should be quite easy, but abit time consuming... and requires creativity...
- Bloat removal? just ROOT and remove those excess fats..
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My two yr old son plays fruit ninja and the calculator/calendar/etc opens. I bet a lot ofyou experience the same annoyance of the bottom bar mini apps not having the option to hide or lock on games and other apps on fullscren.
I'm not likely to be getting the device but I'm gonna stop by and help out to get things off the ground.
In terms of speed of development, keep in mind this thing "soft launched" in the US - I didn't even know until a few days ago that it was available at all. It's typical for a device to take a few weeks to get off the ground, the I777 was an unusual exception due to being 95%+ identical to the I9100 and being a majorly anticipated handset launch.
I'm going to start on something here soon, buy this will be my first developing for any device, so you prob won't want to follow anything I do, its gonna be slow and buggy
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its gonna be slow and buggy
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Do you work for microsoft?
Ha u would think
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khel26 said:
My two yr old son plays fruit ninja and the calculator/calendar/etc opens. I bet a lot ofyou experience the same annoyance of the bottom bar mini apps not having the option to hide or lock on games and other apps on fullscren.
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You can use "Honeybar" ROOT from the Android Market. It lets you hide the bar in Honeycomb.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hanhuy.android.hsbm
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(On the other hand, if you find any anti-social sites, please let me know.)
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You're already here bro.
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I realize that you are trying to get all the Devs in one spot and thats a great idea in a new forum... however since nothing is being developed here (rom/kernel) Im going to have to move this to the General section.
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I realize that you are trying to get all the Devs in one spot and thats a great idea in a new forum... however since nothing is being developed here (rom/kernel) Im going to have to move this to the General section.
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ugh. next thing you know, he's going to create a "Q&A" forum for us. That's when I'll start running away.
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ugh. next thing you know, he's going to create a "Q&A" forum for us. That's when I'll start running away.
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If it gets big enough then I will. The Dev thread is for development, not asking questions or asking for people to raise their hand.
Red5 said:
If it gets big enough then I will. The Dev thread is for development, not asking questions or asking for people to raise their hand.
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umm.. but they have to raise their hand in order for you to smell their armpits. How else will you know who is a dev and who isn't? (I think I might have just insulted myself... hrmm)
I just posted this over in the 10.1 community's General section, hopefully someone can help me get started!
Maybe someone here can hep me get the ball rolling as well?
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Hi all,
I just got my hands on a galaxy tab 7.0 plus and was hoping to build a rom for its community (no one has really built a rom for 7.0, its a small community and we just got CWM).
Ideally I'd like to kang together a stock Honeycomb 3.2 rom, free of touchwiz. I was hoping to port over one of the Google I/O Roms for the 10.1. I figure our devices are close enough that I can try tossing over the build props, make sure to use the boot/recovery images from the 7.0 and maybe, just maybe, get lucky. Or at least have a good start.
The problem is that I can't seem to find any of the Google I/O roms, past 3.1. Do those device not get updates? Is there another Touchwiz free rom I can start from? I remembering reading a while back that TWUX is an optional update for the 10.1. I've been looking around, but I'm have a heck of a time finding links that clearly imply I'm dling a Touchwiz free rom. Most of the just say "Stock" which is a bit ambiguous.
If someone would be kind enough to point me to an ODIN and CWM mod version of the sorta rom I'm looking for I'd be greatly appreciative(and hopefully if I can get this out the door, so will 7.0 community)
Thanks!
-B
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Okay so before the trolls walk in i just want everyone to know i'm new to the Rom scene therefore i do not know all the rules for when you post one.
Now for the kinda cool part. I got bored today and figured i wanted to make a Rom based off of SupremeSense. But i realized i dont know everything about rom building so i took a stock based rooted rom and threw some supremesence in it but it wont boot now so what im proposing is that i post it, then you guys add your own little tweaks to it leave sceen shots and details and if its awesome(better than what i already have posted) i will replace my link with the one you provide. We will continue this until you guys stop posting. Remember im open to all suggestions.
[edit] evrybody go here if your interested in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26625776#post26625776
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Again, i cannot stress enough, if i'm breaking some type of forum rule please tell me so i can fix it
I like the idea, what exactly is it? Any screen shots or anything to go off?
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I like the idea, what exactly is it? Any screen shots or anything to go off?
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I cant exactly get it to boot up but i do know there are smarter people out there that know what to do. But what i did was download the latest SupremeSence And a rooted stock based rom, then pulled up 7zip copy a bunch of Supreme into the Stock added a little me and flash it. My original goal was to get landscape on Supreme but i reallized i wanted to take it bigger, if you want i can pm it to you and you can upload\try to get it working
Yeah what's the goal here? You can't just take a rooted stock ROM and start adding my apk/odex files to it. Another difference between Stock and SS is resources.
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Yeah what's the goal here? You can't just take a rooted stock ROM and start adding my apk/odex files to it. Another difference between Stock and SS is resources.
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i just basicaly wanted another rom out there for us because we dont have much to choose from. And i wanted to base it off of your rom because it awesome, i figured i have a ton of spare time so might as well try
So where to begin. First off its a nice IDEA. Ill give you that much. Second off there are technical and ethical issues your facing .
The first thing you ever do is ask permission whenever you are using someone elses work,and it doesnt sound as if you asked strapped365 for permission to use it (whether he minds or not is a different story. Should always ask)
Second is like Strapped365 said you cant just open 7zip and start dragging and dropping. Its ameture ,and almost never works,
Please research. I love the fact that someone wants to learn about developing ROMS and such,but you need to make more of an effort to learn the time it takes to do this
Oh and if you have no public work to share please don't post in development section.and if you do get a public link up (if the mods are nice) then post (wip) at the title to show its not really functional . Because this is far from beta ,more like pre pre alpha as it wont even boot.
I dont really believe this belongs in this section but im not a mod
Good luck,back to betting on horses :beer:
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So where to begin. First off its a nice IDEA. Ill give you that much. Second off there are technical and ethical issues your facing .
The first thing you ever do is ask permission whenever you are using someone elses work,and it doesnt sound as if you asked strapped365 for permission to use it (whether he minds or not is a different story. Should always ask)
Second is like Strapped365 said you cant just open 7zip and start dragging and dropping. Its ameture ,and almost never works,
Please research. I love the fact that someone wants to learn about developing ROMS and such,but you need to make more of an effort to learn the time it takes to do this
Oh and if you have no public work to share please don't post in development section.and if you do get a public link up (if the mods are nice) then post (wip) at the title to show its not really functional .
Good luck,back to betting on horses :beer:
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thanks for the reality check
a large part of the mods are done between apks and jar files with editing the smali in classes.dex (if done correctly anyways) so taking one rom and another and trying to mash will almost never work like notsointeresting said above. As for there not being much to choose from, theres actually quite alot for the shift, especially in the last couple months.
newSENSE
Supreme Sense
CM-7
unofficial CM-9 builds
Cyclonic
Stock Rooted
MIUI
and many more.
theres quite a few devs busting ass and pumping out some quality work. your idea is nice and also like notso said, you def need to ask permission from other devs before trying to tear apart or manipulate a rom theyve worked hard on. there are some guides floating around though that are great assistance in making your own roms. sparksco, dodgejcr, one_love_420, and a few others i cant remember offhand have put up guides to help build kernels and compile roms. do a little reading and practicing and in no time youll be building your own custom rom too.
this by all means isnt an attack, just a confirmation of whats been posted already and some of my own opinions. good luck learning and building.
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php?topic=18828.0
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Hubertkilgore said:
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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heres the kernel guide by dodgejcr:
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18828.msg235663#msg235663
and heres sparksco's rom compiling guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084697
And to close a thread a mod has to do that. Go on the xda site and click report thread at the top right and just type in close post or move it or what not
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Before this gets locked, I would like to say kudos to OP. Great idea, and hope you find your way in the community. I tried (not hard) but did try to understand developing, and quickly gave up. This community is full of smart people that make it hard for us dumber ones to really be helpful, my way of helping is to hit thanks buttons and stay in the shadows. Good luck man
question for op did you change the updater script or anything what happends when it attempts to boot ? black screen wont even flash etc..
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question for op did you change the updater script or anything what happends when it attempts to boot ? black screen wont even flash etc..
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it wont boot past my flashscreen
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We won't even begin to identify the problem without knowing exactly what apks you copied and pasted, but due to cluttering and the bumping of this thread I'd say not to continue to help in THIS particular thread until it gets moved or you post another thread in general to help out.
Nothing against the OP at all.. I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from. whenever a reply is posted in here it puts actual development threads further down :beer:
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Everybody go look at this thread in general