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Hi all,
I have been using o2 XDA and XDA II mini for many years , i tried almost all new phones with WM5/6 and i am very much sure that it does not serve my purpose and work.
Can I buy a new 02 / HTC touch dual or tytn and load windows 2003 on it.
I understand that i will loose warranty etc. but is it possible. pros & cons?
Can i do it ? how ?
thanks
roms are tailored 100% for a device
so if the device maker never made a 2003rom for a device
one would have to start from scratch and maybe
have to reverse engineer drivers if some were requied
and not available in a wm2003 model
Hi all,
I have been using o2 XDA and XDA II mini for many years , i tried almost all new phones with WM5/6 and i am very much sure that it does not serve my purpose and work.
Can I buy a new 02 / HTC touch dual or tytn and load windows 2003 on it.
I understand that i will loose warranty etc. but is it possible. pros & cons?
Can i do it ? how ?
thanks
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if someone really wants to spend money and energy he can,but it would be better to have wm5 or 6 for some devices like magician instead an overcomed 2003 for newer ones like touch dual, pharos,cruise,diamond
and by the way people developing os are trying to make a better os every time, and in most cases they do it, so you get better memory handling, better drivers...faster device if you want it that way
WOW! Why would you want to put a server OS on your phone? lol
leaskovski said:
WOW! Why would you want to put a server OS on your phone? lol
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windows mobile 2003 / 2003se
not windows 2003 server
shaileshmanjrekar said:
Hi all,
I have been using o2 XDA and XDA II mini for many years , i tried almost all new phones with WM5/6 and i am very much sure that it does not serve my purpose and work.
Can I buy a new 02 / HTC touch dual or tytn and load windows 2003 on it.
I understand that i will loose warranty etc. but is it possible. pros & cons?
Can i do it ? how ?
thanks
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do you have a specific for example compatibility problem with WM5+?
I have over 10,000 client contacts on my phone , I transferred data to couple of new phones with wm5 and wm6. All is well till I try to search. When i search for a contact it takes around 5 mins on new phones with wm5 and wm6 . It takes 3-4 secs on the the XDAII and XDA mini for the same. having tried many phones and tools , i assumed that the problem should be with OS. with improved graphics and whole lot of other features which take up the active resources may be the search module does not get all that is required.
MY xda mini 2003 / xda II 2002 have less features ,less graphics so they are faster is what i have concluded from all these experiments that i have done wit new phones.
Thanks
farukb said:
if someone really wants to spend money and energy he can,but it would be better to have wm5 or 6 for some devices like magician instead an overcomed 2003 for newer ones like touch dual, pharos,cruise,diamond
and by the way people developing os are trying to make a better os every time, and in most cases they do it, so you get better memory handling, better drivers...faster device if you want it that way
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If you compare the search tool with my kind of data, you will understand taht the new OS is not of any help to me. I agree , that there may be whole lot of new features and drivers , But search in a n integral part of the os and don't understand why that should change. and it works superb in earlier versions 3 secs V/s 5 mins to search.
Your problem is caused by a new way of working with memory in WM5+ systems. WM2003 used part of RAM as a storage medium for installed programs and also contact databases were located there. WM5+ uses internal flash instead. Data from flash doesn't disapear when you run out of battery juice. On the other hand it is a numerous times slower. However i cannot imagine the slowdown would have been so drastic. I would advise you trying the fastest possible device with lots of RAM (Samusng Omnia i900 or HTC Touch Diamond). It is possible the slowdown will be more acceptable. If it will be no success you can modify some ROM to use RamDisk as a storage medium. However, there are no new devices with WM2003 ROMs available.
That is the most convincing answer that i have got since last year when i started looking for replacement for my XDA.
After trying almost every new and latest PDAs in the market, I am sure that the new PDAs will not be any great help
BUT your statement - " Modify some ROM to use RamDisk as a storage medium." makes me hopeful.
Unfortunately, for novice like me it ends there. I don't know how modify ROMS, or any place where i can get it done. Even if i get one, i don't know how to load it. Tutorials did not help much, they were just too much technical. I may be a odd one in this developer forum, but this is only place where i think i can get the answer. I am just looking for PDA that is just equvialent to my XDA II and XDA mini
Many Thanks for your response
hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
Not possible
archi_mahmoud said:
hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
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officially impossible.
non-officially: talk to the ROM chefs to come up with a decent cooked ROM
OmniaHD? Way to downgrade.
Symbian S60 is god-awful, especially S60V5.. what were they thinking? It's so locked down. Give me my WinMo and cooked rom flexibility any day of the week!
Actually, there was an insider ROM for WM7 which was used by Microsoft for showoff reasons.
But it is prolly gonna be like Cobalt for the Tungsten T3 - it will never leak out...
IIRC, the phone used by microsoft was different to the Omnia I8910HD. It did however look very similar, but the case was different at least. (That doesn't mean it wasn't one, but I doubt it, and expect it to simply be a ad hoc demo device, apposed to a ROM that will never be released).
On a side note, I do agree, S60 is somewhat crap, I can't stand the full screen QWERTY keyboard, and is very locked down. It can be hacked to run some apps from the OVI store etc though, like OVI maps (about the only good thing). But then again, it does shoot good quality video.
hi there people looking to buy a new device but i cant decide between a Wm or an android phone currently got a htc p3300 running shady313's Rom (cheers shady) and have always used Wm phones could some ppl shed some light on the android side of things for me pro's and cons compared to windows mobile. I am more use to windows mobile i it quite easy to go over to a different OS etc etc.
cheers Shane.
personally, i would buy an android operated phone. their apps are very good, as a phone as a whole its very satisfactory.
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android for me
Hello I'm new to this whole android thing and the forum so im sorry if i posted in the wrong area. Anyways i have a Sony Ericsson vivaz (pile of sh*t) which runs the Symbian ^1 (s60 v5) and i was wondering how to replace it with the android os. (don't need to be the latest version) I have read somewhere before the vivaz specs are similar to some android phone (x8 i think). Any help would be amazing as i still got over a year with this cr*p phone.
There's no way to replace symbian with android on the Vivaz. Sorry to break the bad news to you
not even with an earliest version of the android os?
anyway to replace or maybe upgrade the existing symbian os on the vivaz?
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anyway to replace or maybe upgrade the existing symbian os on the vivaz?
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Not unless Sony decides to push out an update. I've owned three Nokia S60 handsets and one of my big complaints was that, aside from occasional bug fixes, S60 devices are stuck with the OS version they shipped with.
what a joke. as far as i am aware the symbian os is open source so surely someone could find a way to update the vivaz os
Symbian was open source (Nokia recently closed it again) but it's just the kernel and framework. All the apps that make up the ROM are definitely not open. Combine that with locked bootloaders and that's why Symbian hacking communities have never materialized.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
I ain't got a clue to be honest but i know you can still download symbian sdks (however at at 200mb at least doesn't look very appealing). I cant wait for my contract to finish so i can get rid of this pile of sh*t they call VIVAZ!! Never buying a Sony Ericsson again that's for sure
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
...no you can't...If you don't like it, sell it....
So can i install Windows 6.5 into Mango?
Thanks for ur reply,,,
I was having many apps & cracks for window 6.5. So is it possible to install Win 6.5 into my mobile -Lumia 710 ?
My main motive is to install apps/game into my mobile, but in windows market place I am not finding good apps for free (not even paid)
buddheshwar said:
Thanks for ur reply,,,
I was having many apps & cracks for window 6.5. So is it possible to install Win 6.5 into my mobile -Lumia 710 ?
My main motive is to install apps/game into my mobile, but in windows market place I am not finding good apps for free (not even paid)
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You'll find much better apps for WP compared to Windows Mobile. It's sad you decided to buy a phone without doing any research whatsoever.
buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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Actually... get in touch with the other guy who wants to put WP 7 on his Inspire 4G and switch devices.
Actually just wait a while, I think I heard some where that DFT is working on a ROM for 2nd gen devices. Then you will be fully unlocked and able to customize and even have Bluetooth file transfer and so on.
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Actually just wait a while, I think I heard some where that DFT is working on a ROM for 2nd gen devices. Then you will be fully unlocked and able to customize and even have Bluetooth file transfer and so on.
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kindly keep me in loop.
Thanks
that;s a dream that seems will never come true
never heard a wp device could use other system,except HD2
buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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i have lots of apps and rooted my htc 7 pro. the problem is not in the OS, its up to you! and only you! if you dont like wp7 why do you buyed it?
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fengjch127 said:
that;s a dream that seems will never come true
never heard a wp device could use other system,except HD2
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yeah and HD2 is a windows mobile device... which also can boot wp7 or android
sinister1 said:
Actually just wait a while, I think I heard some where that DFT is working on a ROM for 2nd gen devices. Then you will be fully unlocked and able to customize and even have Bluetooth file transfer and so on.
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2nd gen HTC's not Nokia sadly. The only real solution is if you want a phone that has Android on it buy an Android phone. If you want a phone that has iOS on it buy an iPhone. If you want something thay you can hack the hell out of buy an HD2. Or you can be like me and do all of the above
i am also looking for similar solution...unfortunately right now there is no android solution....the most recent progress is interior unlocked the phone, similar to the rooting concept. Microsft and Nokia are extremely picky about allowing changes.
unlock link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599401
buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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Three questions:
1. If you wanted Android, why the heck did you buy a Windows phone?
2. If you already know that people haven't yet ported Android to the Lumia 710, why did you ask? That thread talks about the progress toward doing this, and says it doesn't work yet.
3. Why are you posting a device-specific question in the general WP7 Q&A forum? I mean, you linked to the exact Q&A thread relevant to your question. You could also check the Lumia 800 (typically also includes 710 since they are almost identical internally) Development sub-forum, and read the unlock/NAND-access thread there...
GoodDayToDie said:
Three questions:
1. If you wanted Android, why the heck did you buy a Windows phone?
2. If you already know that people haven't yet ported Android to the Lumia 710, why did you ask? That thread talks about the progress toward doing this, and says it doesn't work yet.
3. Why are you posting a device-specific question in the general WP7 Q&A forum? I mean, you linked to the exact Q&A thread relevant to your question. You could also check the Lumia 800 (typically also includes 710 since they are almost identical internally) Development sub-forum, and read the unlock/NAND-access thread there...
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This, along with no andriod on that phone.
buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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I think if you tell us what exactly is frustrating we can maybe you help with that ?
v_garg said:
I think if you tell us what exactly is frustrating we can maybe you help with that ?
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frustrating for him is i think the approach, he purchased a wp7 but want android on it. that's funny, you dont buy a golf cab to race against an sports car. you buy a sports car not a comparison with that car to wp7
the second thing. he want maybe to try android, because of the hacking abilities and customization and bla bla... and in the end everyone, and believe me everyone switches to the stock things that you have on your phone since the first day. that's the same with nokia and symbian, eveyone of us wanted a cool background picture, "cool" sounds, gimicks, but in the end nokia had a very good interface and backgrounds and sounds. he purchased now a nokia lumia 710 for which people sit many weeks to think of the variety of sounds and lockscreen so that it suites all of us. and after 100 background i use now the stock ones... the same is with custom accent color, i used 150 different to come to the stock ones, which suites definitely the best! thats why microsoft said 9 10 accent are enough because we get in the end wp8
buddheshwar said:
Thanks for ur reply,,,
I was having many apps & cracks for window 6.5. So is it possible to install Win 6.5 into my mobile -Lumia 710 ?
My main motive is to install apps/game into my mobile, but in windows market place I am not finding good apps for free (not even paid)
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eemmmm..if i'm not mistaken the market for winmo has already dead isn't?lumia is more better than old Pocket PC,i think there will be a lot of chance to do "something" with it,imagine man..some of old PPC device has already running android on it(especially the great HD2),so don't give up to your device
galuh said:
eemmmm..if i'm not mistaken...
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emmmmm, thanks for giving new life to stupid useless one-year-old thread about aMdroid. We just could not wait for that....
AndrewSh said:
emmmmm, thanks for giving new life to stupid useless one-year-old thread about aMdroid. We just could not wait for that....
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Calm down, he was just trying to help.
For the record, WP isn't better than wm, two different devices for two different jobs, MS may have dumped one of them but I can state without doubt that WM is alive and kicking in the business world and will be for some time to come yet I bet the other thing to remember is that wm development kickstarted android, when droid took off all the devs split their focus, I wouldn't bank on their ever being a new " hd2 " ever again
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
It is possible to install custom rom
Just visit the site (windowsphonehub.in/tutorials/updating-unlocking-nokia-lumia-710-wp-7-8-jailbreak) every thing is provided there abt installation of custom rom