When I first rooted, back in August, the first thing I did was create a backup. So I had backed up pretty much "stock root". Now, theoretically speaking, if I was to restore that back up, that should bring me back up "stock root". Outdated stock root, yes, but still. And I would be able to use "Voodoo OTA RootKeeper" to bring the device up to date.... am I right? figured I'd ask just to make sure I wasn't missing something probably obvious. Thanks in advance.
How did you make the backup? I think that cwm skips the boot.img, as well as the bootloader.
As far as keeping root through an update, I'm not sure how Vodoo OTA rootkeeper works, but it looks like the boot.img version won't matter if the OTA flashes the new boot (and maybe bootloader). They also sometimes flash a recovery too, so that might overwrite cwm. Maybe VOR preserves the recovery?
The backup was created with cwm. So now that I think of it, I don't think that would work seeing as how you need the stock recovery to install updates. What's VOR?
And if I was to restore that backup, how would one go about flashing the stock recovery?
VOR is voodoo ota rootkeeper.
You can flash the stock recovery via nvflash or from a rooted rom via the staging partition or from cwm.
OTA updates and root are tricky to make them get along with recovery. It's not hard, but it seems like most people don't want to bother. I don't know enough about VOR to know what recovery you need. Maybe it works with a stock rooted system?
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hey all, currently have a g2x rooted with cm7, and i've been looking to unroot;
just to make sure i dont do anything stupid, i wanna run this through with you guys:
first i would flash the stock 2.3.3 ota rom for g2x
then use the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 (one click nv flasher) to get back to lg stock recovery by clicking 'flash stock recovery' (do i need to dl anything extra for this?)
then im done, correct? if i boot up, ill get all the stock rom and apps and bloatware and etc back right?
thanks!
edit: how do i know which version of clockwork mod i have installed? im not sure if i did the external sd support or not...
You've gone back to a stock ROM, you've gone back to the stock recovery, but you haven't actually unrooted.
Whichever method you used to root, you should be able to use that same method to unroot.
UPDATE:
I was originally under the assumption that your 2.3.3. ROM was rooted. If it is stock you should be fine.
sorry for bump, but i read in tga_gunmans post that ppl should flash a rooted 2.3.3 rom and use superoneclick to unroot...would my method work too?
No your way would not work because the stock OTA by xboarder is rooted. Do what tga_gunman said. Flash the rom, use my unroot zip in CWM (deletes root files) and then flash the stock recovery. Busybox will still be on the phone but nobody should be looking for that.
Unroot zip: http://www.mediafire.com/?2vr7cmgg7qcdn14
Easiest way to confirm if your not rooted would be to install Superuser from the market. It'll tell you if the phone's not rooted.
There is an app on the market called Root Checker which is free. It will tell you if you are rooted or not.
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No your way would not work because the stock OTA by xboarder is rooted. Do what tga_gunman said. Flash the rom, use my unroot zip in CWM (deletes root files) and then flash the stock recovery. Busybox will still be on the phone but nobody should be looking for that.
Unroot zip:
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Thanks for your help jboxer. Forgive my noob-like understanding of rooting/unrooting terminology. Hopefully you'll be able to understand what I did.
Last night I went ahead with the unrooting process on my G2X which was running Gingerbread & CM7 following this youtube video (can't post link due to noobiness: watch?v=ryGIv8KQVIE), the order that this guy goes in is:
1. Wiping all cache/user data/formatting in CWM recovery
2. Restore to a barebones stock data in CWM recovery
3. Flash to go back to Stock using OneClickRecovery
4. SuperOneClick to unroot phone
What I ended up doing was restoring my phone to the backup that I created on my sd card when first rooting my phone rather than download that zip file in the video description which is a completely fresh start.
However, whenever I flashed to go back to stock using OneClickRecovery, it gave me that total barebones fresh start where I had to completely set up my Android from the first start screen and I lost my backup. Also, when I go to unroot the phone with that zip file, I don't know how to 'install from zip' after I've lost CWM Recovery menu. So, I flashed back to CWM so I could recover my backup from my SD Card again and install the 'unroot.zip' that you linked and it ran alright and I restarted, but I still had 'SuperUser' in my App drawer telling me that I was still rooted.
I ended up calling it good last night after spending two hours on it. I left my phone rooted, with CWM recovery still on my phone, but I at least I had my backup Gingerbread image with no CM7 mod. So, my phone is functional, but I would like to complete this process of unrooting completely.
Could you perhaps give a little guidance and clarity to what I'm missing or not understanding? I'd love to unroot/flash back to stock recovery/remove all evidence of rooting AND keep my recovered backup that I have before I even started rooting my phone.
Thank you so much for all your help, everybody.
I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!
theremix said:
I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!
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Technically you'll still receive the OTA update you just can't apply it if you have CWM or a custom ROM installed.
You can't install custom ROM without CWM (if you have an older SBK tablet you can use NVFlash with a compatible ROM).
So I shouldn't install cwm until the ICS drops right?
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If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.
CalvinH said:
If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.
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Thanks, I think I'll just wait for the OTA as I want to update as soon as ICS drops in.
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I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).
Woodrube said:
I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).
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1- The RecoveryInstaller app only help to flash the recovery image so no you can just delete it.
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot
baseballfanz said:
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot
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I figured that would be the case with the executable part of the apk.
I read that thread but wasn't sure if only the stock recovery by itself could be flashed w/o the prepacked ROM.
Before I go wiping my device again in anticipation of getting the OTA ICS update...
I made a backup of my device when I was on the original Honeycomb build after rooting. I then switched to the Prime ROM. I'm assuming that I can just restore my Honeycomb update, get Root Keeper and install the OTA update. Am I correct, or is there something that will stop me from doing this?
Edit: Also, when restoring a backup using CWM, does it automatically wipe the device before restoring, or does that need to be done manually?
I believe you also need to restore the original recovery. The last time I tried to flash an upgrade on my rooted stock image using CWM, it rebooted after downloading and rejected the (non-stock) recovery. I'm guessing the ICS update will require a reboot into the stock recovery as well.
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I believe you also need to restore the original recovery. The last time I tried to flash an upgrade on my rooted stock image using CWM, it rebooted after downloading and rejected the (non-stock) recovery. I'm guessing the ICS update will require a reboot into the stock recovery as well.
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Indeed, no OTA update when original recovery is not installed.
I looked around a bit and saw how to unroot and restore to stock recovery... is there an easy way to just restore stock recovery? My plan was to restore my stock backup (to get off revolver) and then can go from CWM -> Stock, I just wasn't sure how to do the last part without undoing everything and fully returning to stock/no root.
It's also very possible that Root Keeper will not work since this is a new firmware form the ground up.
chadcspencer said:
It's also very possible that Root Keeper will not work since this is a new firmware form the ground up.
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OTA Rootkeeper do not work if the system partition is formatted. Which is not the until now. Also people reported OTA rootkeeper worked to get root back after ICS update.
Otherwise use vipermod option 1 to root on ICS.
darkstar107 said:
Before I go wiping my device again in anticipation of getting the OTA ICS update...
I made a backup of my device when I was on the original Honeycomb build after rooting. I then switched to the Prime ROM. I'm assuming that I can just restore my Honeycomb update, get Root Keeper and install the OTA update. Am I correct, or is there something that will stop me from doing this?
Edit: Also, when restoring a backup using CWM, does it automatically wipe the device before restoring, or does that need to be done manually?
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I just did exactly this. I had a nandroid backup of my original stock honeycomb so I restored the backup (I had some problems with the kernel after restoring from Revolver with some OC kernel, but flashing "plain" Revolver and then restoring the stock rom from the backup did the trick).
After that I made sure that everything is OK - I checked that I'm on the correct pieces of the software, in particular the kernel. All looked fine so I pulled OTA update, but before applying it I had to restore stock recovery. For this I used the stock recovery linked in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947 Just downloaded it, placed it on my SD card, rebooted into CWM recovery and flashed it (pleas note - I only downloaded this single file, not needed to download any other files mentioned n the above thread since I already been on rooted stock rom).
After booting the TF again, I made sure that my root is backed up with Supercurio's Root Keeper, then I applied the OTA and after a few minutes I was happy user of ICSed Transformer.
Please note that what worked in my case may not work in yours though. So be careful, think twice, and keep in mind that it's your decision - your risk (and if something goes wrong - your brick )
BTW, all applications, data, etc. are still in place. Root was restored via Root Keeper. Then I downloaded some updates of applications and so far I'm fine.
Background:
I got myself a second-hand I9020T a couple of days back which had CWM recovery and a 4.0.4 Userdebug testkeys build on it. As circumstances turned out, I flashed the phone to the factory 4.1.2 (from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images), but didn't note down the details of the old 4.0.4 ROM.
I rather like stock roms. However, I like stock roms with root even more.
Questions:
I wanted to know if there was any method to root my Nexus S without resorting to using ClockworkMod recovery? I'm hoping for a z4root kind of method which doesn't mess around with the boot loader.
Does such a method even exist.
I'm hoping that I don't have to mess around with the boot loader, yet get root access and all the power to do direct querying of my SMS DB.
Note: I can install CWM recovery, but I'd rather not. It's just the superficial choice I'm making, not a well informed decision.
samveen said:
Background:
I got myself a second-hand I9020T a couple of days back which had CWM recovery and a 4.0.4 Userdebug testkeys build on it. As circumstances turned out, I flashed the phone to the factory 4.1.2 (from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images), but didn't note down the details of the old 4.0.4 ROM.
I rather like stock roms. However, I like stock roms with root even more.
Questions:
I wanted to know if there was any method to root my Nexus S without resorting to using ClockworkMod recovery? I'm hoping for a z4root kind of method which doesn't mess around with the boot loader.
Does such a method even exist.
I'm hoping that I don't have to mess around with the boot loader, yet get root access and all the power to do direct querying of my SMS DB.
Note: I can install CWM recovery, but I'd rather not. It's just the superficial choice I'm making, not a well informed decision.
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You don't have to mess with the bootloader itself, just the recovery.
And no, you will need a custom recovery to flash chainsDD superuser or chainfire SuperSU. There's TWRP also available and popular, if you simply do not like CWM.
polobunny said:
You don't have to mess with the bootloader itself, just the recovery.
And no, you will need a custom recovery to flash chainsDD superuser or chainfire SuperSU. There's TWRP also available and popular, if you simply do not like CWM.
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Is is possible to install the SU update (whichever of the 2) and go back to the stock recovery?
samveen said:
Is is possible to install the SU update (whichever of the 2) and go back to the stock recovery?
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Yes. I don't see why would one want to do that, but that's possible.
Once you're done with your flashing, you can flash stock Jellybean recovery from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032337
OK, so the MotoDev team advised me to return my phone to stock before installing JB, which will be pushed to my phone tomorrow morning...
What do I need to insure my system won't crash?
I have an unlocked bootloader, and am rooted. I already did a factory reset on my device. Some system apps are gone though, as I have deleted them (mostly Google stuff though, nothing crucial). Will I be good to go? (And yes, I will save the SBF and post it, no worries, have a Dev Host account and will upload).
In order to get official OTA updates from Sprint I've always needed to do 2 things:
-Remove Root (eith via OTA Rootkeeper or stock kernel)
-Flash Stock Recovery (OTA has never worked for me w/ custom recovery)
I'd recommend wiping and flashing both stock images in the thread below via fastboot to avoid bootloops and other hassles.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856456
hope things go well! :good:
hagforz said:
In order to get official OTA updates from Sprint I've always needed to do 2 things:
-Remove Root (eith via OTA Rootkeeper or stock kernel)
-Flash Stock Recovery (OTA has never worked for me w/ custom recovery)
I'd recommend wiping and flashing both stock images in the thread below via fastboot to avoid bootloops and other hassles.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856456
hope things go well! :good:
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Thank you, I will do exactly as you directed...hope things go well also, it's about damn time for JB!
Moto Q stock with Arrrghhh's kernel v.0.10
galacticservant said:
Thank you, I will do exactly as you directed...hope things go well also, it's about damn time for JB!
Moto Q stock with Arrrghhh's kernel v.0.10
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If you want to grab the update package and save it you should prevent it from being deleted. I know that twrp could not install asa14 OTA update when I got it so it was just hanging there in /cache along with md5 (or sha1, I can't remeber) checksum file.
I do not know if there are other ways of saving the update package nor if devs actually need it. But ASA14 got to my bootloader unlocked, gsm modded, rooted stock rom and after booting to recovery it just stayed there, no install happend (I installed it manually) because twrp did not pass the command properly or what ever the reason.
This update is coming from motorola directly, not sprint, right?
Anyway, perhaps someone can give you more accurate details. I personally would flash twrp and see if updated arrives. Because /cache is wiped by the update installer after installation. All automated process. After device boots to recovery it installs the package, wipes caches and reboots, if I am not mistaken.
I believe for the past updates we had the best luck by reverting the recovery back to stock as well. You have missing APKs that you removed so those will very likely be looked for by the update and will fail the update process if missing.
So if all goes well this should be the bare minimum I'd say for getting the update to work:
MAKE A BACKUP, don't want to have a bricked phone yeah? I mean you could have Jelly Bean on it finally... but still bricked...
Revert the recovery to stock if you installed TWRP or ClockworkMod, adb reboot bootloader | fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Restore any and all apps you deleted from the stock image, either by restoring fully to stock or putting them back manually, wouldn't hurt to do another update check in the play store for them as well.
Temp unroot with OTA Rootkeeper
Download the update, reboot it, do a song and dance, ???, profit.
Now, you might try to restore root asap, it may or may not work, we won't know till we try.... I'm using Superuser 3.1.3 and on their website it claims its for arm devices 2.0-4.1 so maybe it'll work. Your bootloader should still be unlocked I'd imagine, so you can reflash your custom recovery and make a new backup.