From what I've read in the Dev forum for CM on the MT4GS, CM will never have the stock camera app that came with this phone.
One of the bigger features of this phone's camera is the near zero-lag camera shutter. Is that a hardware feature and thus continues to exist under the AOSP camera app or is it a software feature and therefore either not possible without the factory camera app or is possible with a 3rd party camera app?
fallenturtle said:
From what I've read in the Dev forum for CM on the MT4GS, CM will never have the stock camera app that came with this phone.
One of the bigger features of this phone's camera is the near zero-lag camera shutter. Is that a hardware feature and thus continues to exist under the AOSP camera app or is it a software feature and therefore either not possible without the factory camera app or is possible with a 3rd party camera app?
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There are more options than just those 2 - go to the market and check out camera360 for starters...
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There are more options than just those 2 - go to the market and check out camera360 for starters...
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I didn't see anything in the description for camera360 mentioning the zero lag "shutter".
You're right, and the shutter isn't bad, but it's not "zero" lag. Anything other than sense is never going to be able to use the sense camera so it's a tradeoff. The usability of the CM7 camera is still really good and the effects/addons of camera360 rival the sense apk so i'm happy. It's worth me holding my hand still for .5 seconds to get the tradeoff in speed and stability from other ROMs; but that's why there's something for everyone.
If I find a reference to the 'zero lag' shutter speed at some point while browsing through HTC kernel source, i'll post it here. If so, we can go from there to work this in to something different, like cm7.
No promises that even if it is found it can be ported, for all I know it could be software in the HTC camera app itself, I haven't gone through the app to see. It could also be defined in the HTC sense frameworks...or maybe it is a hardware feature that just needs support coded.
Who knows, but i'll be on the lookout for anything having to do with this. If I stumble across any information i'll post here. That way even if I can't find the time or figure out how to work with it, others might be able to.
This may, or may not help:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4559/tmobile-mytouch-4g-slide-review-photographers-wanted/5
They go into how the zero shutter lag works here, and basically, it's a hardware feature that requires specialized software (the camera application) to work with it.
I have a feeling that any camera application that uses the standard camera APIs won't be able to take advantage of the zero shutter lag bit. But that's just a guess.
jonnycat26 said:
This may, or may not help:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4559/tmobile-mytouch-4g-slide-review-photographers-wanted/5
They go into how the zero shutter lag works here, and basically, it's a hardware feature that requires specialized software (the camera application) to work with it.
I have a feeling that any camera application that uses the standard camera APIs won't be able to take advantage of the zero shutter lag bit. But that's just a guess.
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You would be correct.
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Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich camera
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich also brings some much-needed improvements to Google's camera UI, which the company says it has been working on with Samsung.
ICS devices, and the newly announced Samsung Galaxy Nexus in particular, will have 1080p video, zero shutter lag, a new picture-stitching panorama mode, easier sharing and Instagram-esque filters.
In the panorama mode, you can start taking the picture and then move the camera. The phone assembles the full range of continuous imagery into a single panoramic photo.
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"When taking pictures, continuous focus, zero shutter lag exposure, and decreased shot-to-shot speed help capture clear, precise images," says Google. "Stabilized image zoom lets users compose photos and video in the way they want, including while video is recording. For new flexibility and convenience while shooting video, users can now take snapshots at full video resolution just by tapping the screen as video continues to record."
There's also built-in face detection as well as tap to focus.
Android 4.0 ice cream sandwich
There are also various editing tools included, too, while there's sharing via Google+, message, Bluetooth, email or Picasa upload.
Android 4.0 ice cream sandwich
There's also an improved gallery widget, as well as new album layout with larger thumbnails.
Thankfully you can also now take screenshots - this is going to make our job a whole lot easier!
For video, there's also Live Effects you can apply to distort faces or alter backgrounds.
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** this is what we have to look forward to with Android 4.0. Pay attention to the part in BOLD.
Source: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...m-sandwich-everything-you-need-to-know-954464
But realistically we're not going to see ICS CyanogenMod for probably 2-4 months, right?
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But realistically we're not going to see ICS CyanogenMod for probably 2-4 months, right?
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Realistically, we'll start seeing bits and pieces of it as soon as the source drops.
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hello. i have little problem with camera in miui rom, latest version. i just bought desire s so i flash from stock rom. this lag isn t only in miui camera but in camera fx too, so i think it is in all camera apps.any ideas?
Which kernel are you using? I used to find it pretty swift using the Tiamat kernel.
Settings > About Phone >
Should have something along the lines of Cyanogen or Tiamat, I'm guessing its Cyanogen, only because I know most of the AOSP ROMs use it.
2.6.35.14 cyanogenmod [email protected] *1
Try switching some settings off even, but if not, definitely try the tiamat kernel.
http://tiamat-dev.com/tiamat_saga/
i have disabled some graphic features, flashed that kernel but still lagging
Give Galnet a shot, with a combination of Tiamat.
http://galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/weekly-builds/
It was the one combination I ran on the Desire S flawlessly, and thoroughly enjoyed.
didnt help too. i read somewhere that this lagging is on some older desire s. very bad to shoot photos but possible, but making video is such a pain i love this rom so i will wait if some sollution appear later. thx anyway
edit: not old but new desire s could have this problem
No offence, but I wouldn't hold your breathe. The HTC Desire S probably won't get the attention it needs, as it doesn't really stand out from the crowd.
Awesome device, but over shadowed by many of the giants that are approaching.
I've never had any problems with the camera being slow on mine. But I don't know what you would consider appropriate. At the same time though, mine is currently an expensive alarm clock.
some new thoughts. it doesnt lag like about 1 second after start camera app. it doesnt lag neither when i set timer . for 5 counting seconds is camera smooth. it was also quite smooth when i opened camera and i received force close window about app Talk. so if it could work good at least in 5 seconds count there must be way how to make it works.
hi guys! Same problem. I bought the brand new Desire S. Make it S-off, root, 4ext recovery.
i flash the latest MIUI and the same problem here with camera and video playback!
i figured how it lags - when animation of ui is running - video playback is running to. When animation of ui elements stops - video playback (and camera playback) stops too!!! Try to touch the elements of user interface when camera stops!
It seems that in new models of desire video driver works differently.
I tried to flash all versions of stock roms - the problem was gone.
But with latest cyanogen kernel, all versions of tiamat kernel i got same problem!
It is only one custom kernel with this lags gone - it is UNITY_V9_2.6.35.14_OC2016_UV900_SLQB_CIFS_TUN_NOOP_EXT4_2WCR_VDD_SAGA3.zip
But with miui and this kernel wifi stops working normally and video playback to, but camera works great!
May be some specialists in this questions make differences in above kernels and differentiate the problem...
i am wery disappointed in this device because i cannot get normally working any custom roms! ( only stock... but stock sucks!! want MIUI!!
there are another guys with same problem: ht_p://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37785-camera-bug/
P.S. Sorry for bad english, i teach it bad in my russian school
Yes, I have the same problem with a brand new DS. I reported this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20497676&postcount=559
and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20510357&postcount=562.
It is happening with CM7 and MIUI Roms, the latter obviously have CM7 core.
No solution known to me. Can't take Sense bloat anymore, but at least camera works fine.
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On top: I have just bricked the device (wrong EMMC, can't write system, data, cache, hboot)!
Maybe someone (as I bricked my DS) can have a look at the new CM7 build by Jorgen (can be found in the thread I linked above)? Should have implemented new! HTC kernel sources. The camera might work now.
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Maybe someone (as I bricked my DS) can have a look at the new CM7 build by Jorgen (can be found in the thread I linked above)? Should have implemented new! HTC kernel sources. The camera might work now.
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Tried this build. The result is the same CAMERA F***N LAG!!!!! (((((
Doh!
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It seems that this thread is more active so i write my thoughts here too....
The problem with the lagging camera is only on new HTC Desire S (i think), because i got my desire s a half year before and on this one it's working. With the new HTC Desire S of my girlfriend it isn't working.
So i found a alternative, for those who like to take some pictures and capture some videos. The first one is (pictures only) a free app called pudding camera, it has a nice UI and it's working. The second one is (pictures and videos) a paid app (2,50€ i think) called Angel Camera which allows you to take pictures and videos. Oh and to make high quality pictures you have to select fine shot or something like this.
The problem is, i don't think that the (only) problem is the camera driver because watching videos is also a pain. Try to watch for an example youtube videos they will bug as much as the camera preview. In a few other apps like daily ... workout the videos are lagging like hell too.
And like it was said before it's working if you keep some UI interaction up all the time. For example press menu all the time, you will see it's running fluently. The same is working in the camera app too.
Perhaps a problem with hardware acceleration? The drivers (can't) be the problem because third party apps are working without that lag?
I hope someone more experienced can join this thread.
Perhaps superkid or proxuser or mdeejay, ...
yeah. xD there are lots of very experienced guys in these forums.
Thx.
Hmmm. Apart from the fact that I managed to replace my bricked device and now own a DS whose camera thankfully works, my experience was totally different.
I certainly tried 3rd party camera apps: Vignette, Camera 360, Nemus Camera and Camera Zoom FX. None worked, all of them showed the uber-laggy preview.
So at that time I assumed the issue involves indeed a new driver, API or whatever, a deeper problem not to be solved by using a certain camera app.
@mikep1993: Would you please try one of the mentioned apps, if possible (there are free versions)? And, which CM version are you on?
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Hmmm. Apart from the fact that I managed to replace my bricked device and now own a DS whose camera thankfully works, my experience was totally different.
I certainly tried 3rd party camera apps: Vignette, Camera 360, Nemus Camera and Camera Zoom FX. None worked, all of them showed the uber-laggy preview.
So at that time I assumed the issue involves indeed a new driver, API or whatever, a deeper problem not to be solved by using a certain camera app.
@mikep1993: Would you please try one of the mentioned apps, if possible (there are free versions)? And, which CM version are you on?
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I tried other apps but they are lagging as well, i found those two which won't lag. I can't tell anything more detailed but i know those too apps are working. Perhaps they are programmed a bit different or something like this, but yeah.
We are using Galnet MIUI 1.12.31 so the newest build. Like i said before it's working with ICS again. Had no change to try a MIUI ICS build but perhaps we are lucky.
Now what should I throw my phone!!!!!!!! why no one solves the problem!!! I do not want to sit on stock firmware. This problem 100% in kernel, let anyone else will this kernel.
Today there is a new CM7 version available in the dedicated Desire S thread here at xda. Some changes in camera are introduced. Might be worth checking.
all still. I hope they understand what the problem is not in the camera and problem in hardware video accelerator therefore, the lag in the camera
Alright so I've been doing some searching and cant really find anything so here's my question
Which ROM Makes best use of the Camera Hardware for the Nexus S 4G
To go further into detail im an avid user of the Stock Camera App
I'm not much of a fan of these other camera apps that are just bulked up with filters and all that jazz.
The only Other App that i use when taking pictures is LG Camera which gives me a lot of features for controlling the photo before its taken
I've tried a decent amount of other apps like "Camera 360" "Streamzoo" "HDR Camera+" "Camera ICS" and obviously "Instagram"
I do know each app has its strengths and weaknesses i do switch around between most of them
But what im looking for is more Camera Control.
Theres a ton of apps out there but apps can only do so much with what the system will allow it to do so thats why im wondering if anyone knows of any roms that give the user the most out of the camera.
Example:
Jelly Bean and Cyanogenmod - Gives the user touch to focus which i love because ICS didnt give that to its users ( with the exception of a few apps)
Are there any other users out there who love taking pictures and have wanted more features and options to mess around with for there camera?
Do you know if any other ROMS possibly up the quality of the photos taken?
Are their any ROMS that Possibly Give me access to more features in my Camera that i can Manually Change and not have the camera AUTO judge what the best settings are..
I love when to have the options to do things manually like change the Focus distance, ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed. Things like that.
^ Probably best sums up my question
Any and all help is always appreciated. Cant wait to see if you guys can lead me in the right way
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Alright so I've been doing some searching and cant really find anything so here's my question
Which ROM Makes best use of the Camera Hardware for the Nexus S 4G
To go further into detail im an avid user of the Stock Camera App
I'm not much of a fan of these other camera apps that are just bulked up with filters and all that jazz.
The only Other App that i use when taking pictures is LG Camera which gives me a lot of features for controlling the photo before its taken
I've tried a decent amount of other apps like "Camera 360" "Streamzoo" "HDR Camera+" "Camera ICS" and obviously "Instagram"
I do know each app has its strengths and weaknesses i do switch around between most of them
But what im looking for is more Camera Control.
Theres a ton of apps out there but apps can only do so much with what the system will allow it to do so thats why im wondering if anyone knows of any roms that give the user the most out of the camera.
Example:
Jelly Bean and Cyanogenmod - Gives the user touch to focus which i love because ICS didnt give that to its users ( with the exception of a few apps)
Are there any other users out there who love taking pictures and have wanted more features and options to mess around with for there camera?
Do you know if any other ROMS possibly up the quality of the photos taken?
Are their any ROMS that Possibly Give me access to more features in my Camera that i can Manually Change and not have the camera AUTO judge what the best settings are..
I love when to have the options to do things manually like change the Focus distance, ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed. Things like that.
^ Probably best sums up my question
Any and all help is always appreciated. Cant wait to see if you guys can lead me in the right way
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There's nothing, sadly. You are pretty much "stuck" with what you've named so far.
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There's nothing, sadly. You are pretty much "stuck" with what you've named so far.
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Thanks for the reply
Here it is! The first part of the Nemesis project, Focal, is already here!
This is just a build I made downloading the source from github.
I will try to update it as new versions progressively come. :laugh:
This isn't my work, say thanks to the CyanogenMod Team instead!!
Sorry for the Google Drive download link, but I apparently can't upload this file as attachment...
UPDATE: It seems to better work on Nexus devices and on AOSP based ROMs. Stock ROMs like Sense, TouchWiz etc. will probably experience problems with this camera.
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thanks for compiling!
i have currently a nexus 4 running stock 4.3 unrooted with stock kernel.
this is the first time i tried focal, and here are my impressions:
the preview lags. constantly. no matter what conditions, dark or sunny.
i dont like the interface, even though it has nice ideas, its just too much. im not a big photographer, so for me these features are not that important to me, i much more prefer simplicity, and this is just overwhelming.
i dont really get how the view of the previously taken photos should work, how i can navigate through them and how it can be deleted.
they took a lot of good ideas from the official camera app, but implemented it in the wrong way.
as for picsphere: i dont like that there is no preview, i only see the frame when i already took it. and that i have to manually press the shutter button to take the frame, and its not automatic. they should at least give an option for that.
picsphere rendering is very slow, much faster on stock.
plus it saves all frames of a picsphere as separate photos too, whats that all about?
and wheres hdr mode?
and why is it locked in landscape mode?
so to sum up: i like the idea of having cyanogenmod-developed apps instead of stock, but it still has a loooong way to go to become a considerable option to replace the stock camera app.
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thanks for compiling!
i have currently a nexus 4 running stock 4.3 unrooted with stock kernel.
this is the first time i tried focal, and here are my impressions:
the preview lags. constantly. no matter what conditions, dark or sunny.
i dont like the interface, even though it has nice ideas, its just too much. im not a big photographer, so for me these features are not that important to me, i much more prefer simplicity, and this is just overwhelming.
i dont really get how the view of the previously taken photos should work, how i can navigate through them and how it can be deleted.
they took a lot of good ideas from the official camera app, but implemented it in the wrong way.
as for picsphere: i dont like that there is no preview, i only see the frame when i already took it. and that i have to manually press the shutter button to take the frame, and its not automatic. they should at least give an option for that.
picsphere rendering is very slow, much faster on stock.
plus it saves all frames of a picsphere as separate photos too, whats that all about?
and wheres hdr mode?
and why is it locked in landscape mode?
so to sum up: i like the idea of having cyanogenmod-developed apps instead of stock, but it still has a loooong way to go to become a considerable option to replace the stock camera app.
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Most features work on my sensation.
You can change which of the editing settings you want to appear using the slide-up settings.
Picsphere has previews for me. But I agree the rendering needs work.
HDR works
You can swipe from the left/top to get to gallery and see/edit/delete pictures.
It's not locked in landscape for me either.
I used the zip from the other thread though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384678
[APP]CyanogenMod Focal Camera
Crashes about 10 seconds after starting on my note II stock
Xperia Mini!
Worked on my device but experience a little lags. Video, Panorama can't use, force closes. (Picsphere, we don't have gyro. Can't test it) Anyway is it already on auto-focus mode? if not, where do I set it?
works fine on my s2 with android 4.2.2 pac rom.. i wish if it could let u set it as the default camera tho
It FCs on my phone... on 4.1.2
This actually works better then the one on CM 10.2 nightlies for jflteatt.
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What commands did you use to compile it?
Google Camera App - Released to the Public on April 16th.
I tested it with CM11 on Note 2 and works like the champ with only a issues.
Have you faced any issues with this camera yet?
Code:
Google Camera snaps quick and easy photos and videos, and has creative picture modes like Photo Sphere, Lens Blur and Panorama.
Features
• Photo Spheres for immersive 360º views
• Lens Blur mode for SLR-like photos with shallow depth of field
• Panorama mode with high resolution
• 100% viewfinder for getting the maximum resolution from the sensor (no dropped pixels)
• Updated UI that gets out of your way and is centered on an extra large capture button
• Works on phones and tablets running Android 4.4+ KitKat
Download Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera
Is it only me or the Camera UI is really ugly/simple/Looks like First Android Camera APK made by kid?
Xperia-Ray said:
Is it only me or the Camera UI is really ugly/simple/Looks like First Android Camera APK made by kid?
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Actually I completely agree with you. It is fairly childish but honestly Note 2 on CM11 this app works better than the currently alternative. Hence my excitement
Missing options
i do have an issue, there's no panorama, and no photo sphere, even tho i have this options on my cm11 camera
Apparently Google is leaning towards "dumbing things down" by removing the more complex capabilities in some of their native apps by making them so simplistic as to literally become "point and shoot," especially with respect to this particular camera app. But when you think about it, the overwhelming majority of smartphone owners want just that: a device that works, that's simple to use, and doesn't require a huge set of menu options to just "point and shoot" and get good/useful results so, I suppose it's a winner in that manner for sure.
Tried it a few times, doesn't seem particularly special or useful over some other camera apps like Focal or others. Doesn't seem to do HDR natively and there's no option to enable it so that relegates this app to "ok, I tried it and then I uninstalled it" status for me.
For me its not better than LG G2 modded cam app.
The issue with me is that the CM11 Camera app gets stuck too often hence this is a great alternative
It is good, the only problem for me is when the flash is on and I tap to focus and than to take a picture theres a lag of about 5 seconds. Anyone have this problem? Also no HDR mod, and my camera have that option.
I'm having FC on settings option, on carbon kitkat in Samsung i9070.
love the lens blur mode. Any more cam apps that have this option?
I like it.
Yes the settings option does FC the app but honestly at this current moment, its better than the default camera app.
actually, the only setting i would change is 16:9 ratio, nothing else.
if some1 knows a shortcut for this...?
Good to know, may need to try this out, with custom roms i found a few the camera app always frooze or crashed
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actually, the only setting i would change is 16:9 ratio, nothing else.
if some1 knows a shortcut for this...?
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I've tried to change the settings thru the preferences files saved in \\data\data\com.googleCamera\shared_prefs\, but I couldn't change the resolution to the max, only the grid, flash, etc.
I want to change the "photosphere" and the "lens blur" to max resolution.
Any Idea?
let me try
Going to download it now and give a try in my grand i9082
I'll be trying it out on my Galaxy S2 with PACROM 4.4.2
Someone minds uploading it somewhere and sharing the link, I can find it on play store but it says its not available in my country I find that weird as its just a camara application...
Thanks in advance...
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Really loving the recommendations to turn the phone sideways when recording video, to push people away from filming the horrors of portrait video.
tested in my droid x. somehow force close when i hit the setup menu.
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Anyone know why I cant download a bunch of apps they say not compatible with my device im on stock ging 2.3.4 like five apps I use to have on my phone say this anything I can do to fix?
SOEBOMB said:
Anyone know why I cant download a bunch of apps they say not compatible with my device im on stock ging 2.3.4 like five apps I use to have on my phone say this anything I can do to fix?
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Go down to Additional Information for each app (if it doesn't show on mobile, revert to a computer) and find out what android version you need. Many require 4.0 these days (hence the coining of the term "ginger-death").
If sticking with this device, you may be ROM'ing after all. I would suggest starting with TBaldens CM 10.1. GimmeABreak also looks nice. If all you need is 4.0, then I would recommend CM9 (although I never used it, Sverhagens 9.1 version sounds more improved than the official).
Dam so this phone will be useless cuz most apps wont work I just kept it to for the camera had a baby so takes great pics and videos and awesome camera adjustment video settings any new roms that have the same settings?
SOEBOMB said:
Dam so this phone will be useless cuz most apps wont work I just kept it to for the camera had a baby so takes great pics and videos and awesome camera adjustment video settings any new roms that have the same settings?
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To keep the HTC Sense camera, your options would be limited.
There is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832805
Or this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469615
...or Virtuous Infinity... http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30873-virtuous-infinity-v1330-alpha3-general/
None I've tested, may want to do your research on them to see which works best for you.
Alternatively, you can do what I've done, and install CM anyway, and use a third party camera app -> Ultra Camera (theres a few, but UCam has a free version). Works well. You can see if you like it by installing the camera app now (supports Android 2.2 and up) and trying it out, taking comparison shots. Note that you will have to tweak the settings a little...when I installed it, it took 6MP pictures, where I have since scaled it up to the proper 8MP.
Hope this helps.