I'm currently using SGSII-M250K(Korean galaxy s2), andI was using Verizon Fascinate with CM7 before.
To be honest, I can't really define which is better between my Fascinate and SGSII...Sure the SGSII has better hardware, but with the stabilization of XDA roms on the Fascinate evens it out. Since I bought a Korean SGSII which XDA doesn't care for, there's hardly any development going on in Korean communities, while Nexus S is in the XDA game as a reference phone regardless of which carrier I use.
Therefore I am on the verge of returning my SGSII and buying a Nexus S, in trade of the hardware specs for far better development environment and stabilization.
So what do you think?
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I think you should keep the sgs2. I have both phones. The nexus s running latest cm7 taichi kang and sgs2 rooted with oc kernel. At first I was like you. Thinking this was the worst purchase I could had possibly made due to the lack of development. But when you use the two phone next to each other you soon start to realise how much more superior the s2 is due to its dual core processor. There isn't much development threads as this forum although there are worthy ones in the other. I tried cm7 but decided to just stay stock as the standard rom is just that good and stable. I use it with go launcher cause I'm not a fan of touchwiz.
The worst thing about the s2 section is that it's all over the place. Such as cm7 nightlys are in the q&a section. It does take time getting use to but you learn to love it.
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i don't have i9100 , but just stupid question ...
when you say dual-core CPU , and also i9100 has bigger screen ...
do not this effect on battery life ?
i saw i9100's battery only has 1650 mAh , and Nexus's has 1500 mAh.......
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i don't have i9100 , but just stupid question ...
when you say dual-core CPU , and also i9100 has bigger screen ...
do not this effect on battery life ?
i saw i9100's battery only has 1650 mAh , and Nexus's has 1500 mAh.......
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Its really not a stupid question.. I just bought a nexus s, just to try out ics and I really can't believe how fast this ***** is.... the nexus is a phone I shouldn't have over looked... but that doesn't mean I'm going to rush out and sell my SGS2 epic edition... honestly just wanted to have a phone to play with till ics came...
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i don't have i9100 , but just stupid question ...
when you say dual-core CPU , and also i9100 has bigger screen ...
do not this effect on battery life ?
i saw i9100's battery only has 1650 mAh , and Nexus's has 1500 mAh.......
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Its not a stupid question at all
Personally my SGSII lasts longer than my Verizon Fascinate. I use overclock/undervolted at 200-1400, And 100% brightness everyday. For a moderate use, it holds up for 12 hours minimum. I never had to use my second battery although I carry it all the time just in case.
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I had the SGS2 for about 2 months, and now I have a Nexus S. I am MUCH happier with the Nexus. Knowing that it'll be among the first phones to get ICS is pretty much a very strong point. I liked the sgs2's screen but I found it too flashy and DAMN did it get the battery down. Just having the screen on used up battery like you wouldn't believe.
I'm MUCH more in love with the Nexus' curved screen than with the sgs2's huge one. I never regretted selling my galaxy, but when the time comes to sell my nexus, I'll miss it.
I recently got the Nexus S. Previously had the HTC Desire and the HTC HD2. The moment i used the Nexus S i could notice a jump in speed. Very smooth and alot of development everywhere. But the GS2 has a dual core processor and all. The choice is really up to you. GS2 for more speed and better hardware or the Nexus S for more development. I would recommend you keep the GS2 though. The better hardware would be very useful.
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I had the SGS2 for about 2 months, and now I have a Nexus S. I am MUCH happier with the Nexus. Knowing that it'll be among the first phones to get ICS is pretty much a very strong point. I liked the sgs2's screen but I found it too flashy and DAMN did it get the battery down. Just having the screen on used up battery like you wouldn't believe.
I'm MUCH more in love with the Nexus' curved screen than with the sgs2's huge one. I never regretted selling my galaxy, but when the time comes to sell my nexus, I'll miss it.
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haha , actually Nexus S would be the second device which gets ICS , the first would be Galaxy Nexus , don't you think ?
beside , i9100 is very popular , Samsung will definitely have it update to ICS
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I recently got the Nexus S. Previously had the HTC Desire and the HTC HD2. The moment i used the Nexus S i could notice a jump in speed. Very smooth and alot of development everywhere. But the GS2 has a dual core processor and all. The choice is really up to you. GS2 for more speed and better hardware or the Nexus S for more development. I would recommend you keep the GS2 though. The better hardware would be very useful.
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dual-core makes phone running first , that's for sure
but , for the most normal users , single core CPU is more than enough to handle most of their applications and functions ...
personal point of view , at this time , using dual-core is kinda ...hm...waste energy ...
it's just ... makes me feel ...
single core = car with 150 km/h max speed
dual core = car with 300 km/h max speed
but high-way only allows you to run at 100 km/h ... so ... single or dual , doesn't make much different
...
well , of course , when i have dual-core device , i may gonna take back what i said , but for the moment ...
With a custom ROM, the Nexus S is way faster than the SGS2.
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With a custom ROM, the Nexus S is way faster than the SGS2.
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I wish that was true, but unfortunately it's not.
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I wish that was true, but unfortunately it's not.
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It is true, without a doubt. Samsung's crap bog the SGS2 down immensely, whereas with the Nexus you get pure preformance. The system is much, much more responsive on the Nexus, simple as that.
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haha , actually Nexus S would be the second device which gets ICS , the first would be Galaxy Nexus , don't you think ?
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I said specifically *among* the first phones to get ICS. It will definitely be the first phone already on the market to get ICS. SGS2 will get ICS only when Samsung port their bloatware to ICS, which should be around March or so, by which time the SGS3 should be making an appearence as a rumour. If you want to run ICS within this month, the Nexus S is pretty much your only choice unless you want to spend 3x the cash on the Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus phones are pretty much as cutting edge as it gets, software-wise, and that will remain so in the foreseeable future. For me, that's much more important than a couple more hundred MHz that most likely I won't really find any use for.
I really liked the SGS2, but FOR ME, the Nexus, with its inferior hardware, is a better phone. Your opinion may differ.
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is it better than GALAXY 2 ?
I WANT TO BUY ONE , WHAT DO U PREFER TO ME
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is it better than GALAXY 2 ?
I WANT TO BUY ONE , WHAT DO U PREFER TO ME
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Are you really asking that question on a sensation forum?
no , i am just kidding buddy
actually i would love to ask some one honest , that's why i am asking here
Well i'm not really in much of a positon to comment, as I have a Sensation!
If I were you i'd read all the reviews out there and have a play with both phones in the store, then make your mind up!
S2 anytime sensation is slow compared (had both) amd battery on sensation gets so hot its frightening . The s2 scores around 3500 on quadrant and the sensation around 2400 but its same processor that should tell you something. Also the screen on the s2 is nicer
There is one downfall with the s2 and thats the pink spot on the camera but software has sorted most problems out
If you get s2 you wont be disappointed I know I wasn't
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I have a sensation and a HD2.
Last weekend had the chance to play a couple of minutes with the GS2.
And one thing really got my attention.
The GS2 feels really really big!! I mean brick like big!
And I'm saying that when also owning a HD2 so I'm used to big phones
In all the reviews I've read, the consensus is the the GSII is marginally quicker, but is lacking in build quality. There is also the debate of SAMOLED+ vs qHD SLCD.
I have never been a fan of Samsung. HTC has yet to do me wrong.
Best advice I can give you is to find one of each and out them through their paces. Pick the one that you like more. Easy, right?
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The s2 scores around 3500 on quadrant and the sensation around 2400 but its same processor that should tell you something. Also the screen on the s2 is nicer
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It isn't the same chip, clock speed and the overall ARM architecture are the only similarities. Also, the Sensation is running a much higher pixel count, so will under-perform in comparison due to the extra graphical requirements.
These points above have been covered on this forum countless times before.
Both have there strengths and weaknesses. I have a Sensation but will probably buy a GSII once they release stateside. I love the look of Super AMOLED displays and believe it or not, I like Touch Wiz for the simple fact that its light weight and when I run ADW on top of it, you don't eveb know its running besides the fact, you get to keep some cool features from it such as swiping left and right on a contact to start a text message or call them. I also like Samsung as a whole. I have 4 Samsung LED TV's in my house and every one of them looks superb. My 4 Samsung LCD's prior to them all looked perfect as well and I never had a problem with them in the 5 years I owned them. I also like the fact that Samsung is innovating in multiple markets. They make the LED panels for Sony and then Sony slaps there name and a new menu onto the TV and over charges the **** out of it. When it comes to display technology, nobody can hold a candle to Samsung as they are leading that industry aswell. When it comes to mobile devices, Samsung has been leading in processing power since the debut of the Hummingbird. I like the fact how they design the phone from the ground up but most every other company just purchases genaric parts or parts from Samsung to complete there phones.
In the end, there both good phones but I don't like how HTC can't optimize their drivers for the life of them. They've been like that since Winmo. They also could have done a better job with Sense 3.0 but its obvious they didn't optimize that either.
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Samsung has the worse track record for pushing updates. If you don't believe me go check the epic 4g forums lol
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I'm not a big fan of samoled... colors are vibrant but look artificial.
not feeling the lower resolution as well.
any screen over 4" need to be qhd at the least.
I do wish in the near future these manufacturers get it through their heads and give us the ability to calibrate the screen.
anyway, both good phones.
can't really go wrong with either. just got to pick the one that fits your taste more.
I prefer the built quality, style/look of the Senny and I like Sense UI...
S2 seems to be a solid phone, minus the cheap feeling plastic case.
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Samsung has the worse track record for pushing updates. If you don't believe me go check the epic 4g forums lol
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Well the carriers are to be blamed there as well...sgs2 has been getting updates regularly and quickly. Check the sgs2 forums
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is it better than GALAXY 2 ?
I WANT TO BUY ONE , WHAT DO U PREFER TO ME
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Please, define "better"!
- faster?
- better housing?
- less weight?
- display resolution?
- battery lasts?
- ...
Get neither. Just wait a month or so and get the Samsung Hercules.
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...
It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.
I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.
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I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.
Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII
If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!
Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.
Hi guys,
Galaxy SII blew away my senses with its performance. It is too slick. Do Benchmark softwares like quadrant have any significance ? Mine Nexus S shows a very high score but its not even half slick as SII Which ROMs should I try, if I am looking for a slick Rom. Or the hardware difference is of a significant matter here ?
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Hi guys,
Galaxy SII blew away my senses with its performance. It is too slick. Do Benchmark softwares like quadrant have any significance ? Mine Nexus S shows a very high score but its not even half slick as SII Which ROMs should I try, if I am looking for a slick Rom. Or the hardware difference is of a significant matter here ?
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Go AOSP(CM7/MIUI) and then use a kernel that will allow you to over-clock the crap out of your NS. You might still not reach desired performance compare to a stock or even over-clocked S2.
You're trying to compare dual core to single core here, not to mention double the amount of RAM.
Ive used my mates SII, its a great phone to be sure, but honestly in everyday usage terms theres almost nothing between them. Theres some factors i prefer about the SII, but none of them are really enough to make me wish i had one over my NS.
That may change with the arrival of the Nexus prime. However, ultimately everything becomes obsolete, thats why i purchased the NS, hopefully to avoid some of that. However, i do think that Google really should have made the NS a dual core device, even if it delayed it slightly.
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Ive used my mates SII, its a great phone to be sure, but honestly in everyday usage terms theres almost nothing between them. Theres some factors i prefer about the SII, but none of them are really enough to make me wish i had one over my NS.
That may change with the arrival of the Nexus prime. However, ultimately everything becomes obsolete, thats why i purchased the NS, hopefully to avoid some of that. However, i do think that Google really should have made the NS a dual core device, even if it delayed it slightly.
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Google made a very good choice when they put the best single core processor available in the Nexus S.
There are barely any dual core socs that beat the samsung chip here.
And no, Tegra 2 does not beat it.
Both cores aren't even being used properly.
The Galaxy S II is barely any better than the Nexus S.
The Nexus Prime will probably rape both though.
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The Nexus S is a phone, whereas the Galaxy S II is a mini-tablet.
today i'm returning nexus s for galaxy s plus, is it a good deal?
If you like less power for more money.
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today i'm returning nexus s for galaxy s plus, is it a good deal?
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Google made a very good choice when they put the best single core processor available in the Nexus S.
There are barely any dual core socs that beat the samsung chip here.
And no, Tegra 2 does not beat it.
Both cores aren't even being used properly.
The Galaxy S II is barely any better than the Nexus S.
The Nexus Prime will probably rape both though.
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This. Dual core is a waste in 2011. My ns4g is faster and more responsive than my friends dual core devices.(plus I have almost 300mb available ram)
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The Nexus S is a phone, whereas the Galaxy S II is a mini-tablet.
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I agree. 4" is the sweet spot especially considering screen sizeower consumption. I've had 3"-4.3" displays and the ns4g has spoiled me.
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Guys,
I am "only" talking in terms of performance and I have noticed a huge difference.
As far I think it is the dual core that is making this kind of difference.
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to be honest yes. there is a big difference. not only in speed but in 3d, video rendering+formts, in browsing... they are both due to the software (hardware acceleration tweaks touchwizz added) and the hardware too. never base yourself on forums for these things. ppl generally tend to defend their devices. lol and i do it too at times. just take a look in the nexus one forum, you'll find a couple of threads over there saying that from nexus 1 to nexus s was no upgrade at all.
the thing is ..you cant compare these 2 devices. the nexus s is already a nearly 10 month old device and the sII is still the creme de la creme!
I had a SGSII prior to getting my I9020A Nexus S (on ATT in the US).
In short, the SGSII's screen was shiny and bright, but the low resolution on such a large screen looked bad, IMO. Plus the phone was too flat and slippery and adding a case made it huge. In the end, I could not deal with Touchwiz and radio issues with data speed/dropping. I returned it and have a renewed love for my Nexus S.
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to be honest yes. there is a big difference. not only in speed but in 3d, video rendering+formts, in browsing...
you cant compare these 2 devices. the nexus s is already a nearly 10 month old device and the sII is still the creme de la creme!
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I found video capability to be class apart ! Just blew my senses away
And agree, even I am using it since 10 months and it is old now. But still not that old. Anyways, Android is moving towards right direction and finally perfect hardware maturity has been attained to give a superb user experience, in fact at par with iOS. Before every pounces on me , I have always been an android fan but always considered iOS to be a superior OS.
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I had a SGSII prior to getting my I9020A Nexus S (on ATT in the US).
In short, the SGSII's screen was shiny and bright, but the low resolution on such a large screen looked bad, IMO. Plus the phone was too flat and slippery and adding a case made it huge. In the end, I could not deal with Touchwiz and radio issues with data speed/dropping. I returned it and have a renewed love for my Nexus S.
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ericshmerick said:
I had a SGSII prior to getting my I9020A Nexus S (on ATT in the US).
In short, the SGSII's screen was shiny and bright, but the low resolution on such a large screen looked bad, IMO. Plus the phone was too flat and slippery and adding a case made it huge. In the end, I could not deal with Touchwiz and radio issues with data speed/dropping. I returned it and have a renewed love for my Nexus S.
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Agreed.
The rez is too low for that sized screen.
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So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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illuminarias said:
If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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ive been through many phones already. i came back to the sensation because the specs of the current phones are all the same in some way. i chose sensation for build quality, looks, and camera. and especially with the One series coming out, wait for it.
Galaxy nexus is not an upgrade from sensation, it is a side grade. It's better in some ways but worse in others.
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So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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Hmm, thanks for the reply . I've already made a deal with the seller and we're meeting up tomorrow. Will probably make a comparison. But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
Double Edit: Stop being a serial thanker lol.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
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Aaawww dem. Guess I'll find out tomorrow! Thanks anyways
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There are some amaizing development on diffrent kernels on the GN. So with a costum kernel you will brobably not feel like it´s going slower atleast...
Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
I really wouldnt get the Nexus and go for the S2 or wait a month or two for the Htc one X and im sure there will be AOSP roms for it soon
The one X looks like a beast even with the htc sense on it
The Galaxy Nexus is an awesome buy, the trouble with always waiting is that you end up buying nothing
As said its a side grade, but you get the benefit of quick novelty updates. Personally I would wait for A15 cored phones instead.
$1 gets you a reply
And this is why I bought my Nexus before MWC ...
Nexus 2
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Haha, I got my nexus. Its an upgrade from the sensation. Even though specs isn't as nice on paper, it feels faster. I don't regret getting it.
As for the one x will get aosp in a few months, I wouldn't count on it. People have been saying that for the sensation ever since the day we got s-off. But look at it now. Lol.
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Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
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Infuse is not a variant of the S2. It's closer to the S1 than S2
YES YES YES, nexus ALWAYS gets support from google no matter what, for about 2 years. The one thing I have witnessed with android is horrible support and update timelines for every phone other than the nexus line. Plus if you're not happy, the nexus always has a rather big dev community
there are some really good changes in the new one so I think its better to go for a new one if you really like
I'm contemplating selling my Red S3 and buying the Nexus 4 in its place, is this advisable? I used to be on top of my game with phones but fallen behind, so any pros or cons of each device would really help.
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Many of my friends bought s3 and want to sell it.
System errors or sth like that i don't really know why.
Nexus 4 ist in my opinion very good and cheap .
you get the updates at first and the over smartyphone later
But wait it will come a new Nexus phone from Motorola and Google
I switched from a OneX to the Nexus4. I'm so happy that I did it.
Let's say it like this: If it's OK for you to only have 16gb non-expandable storage and you can live with a bit a inferior camera, then the Nexus4 is so much better.
I have to admit, I just CAN'T live with 16gb. and I hate the the quality of the camera, though, I still like my Nexus4 more than my OneX.
I have only 1gig of storagespace free.. **** it.
The Nexus is just too good, there's no device I can think of wich I would like to use more.
It's incredible how much smoother that thing is compared to other droids, really.
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I'm contemplating selling my Red S3 and buying the Nexus 4 in its place, is this advisable? I used to be on top of my game with phones but fallen behind, so any pros or cons of each device would really help.
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I have an S3 and I looked at the Nexus4 in a store last week. I would say wait for the next one, unless you like the openness of the N4. Don't get me wrong, it's a great device and very cheap, but if you already have an S3, I personnaly don't see the point in switching. Both devices are great.
i think that S3 is the best becuase it is quad-core 1.4 Ghz and it is very fast..
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i think that S3 is the best becuase it is quad-core 1.4 Ghz and it is very fast..
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Coming from someone who has never seen the specs on an N4...
S3 > N4
Oh, in my opinion, google did some basic matters false on the nexus 4. why for example do they push the user to use the google cloud? not adding enough space internally and lack the possibility to use a sd-card is ridiculous. True, the S3 hast some shortcomings too, but choosing from this 2 devices, I would definitly go for the s3.
Everyone have his own opinion
Galaxy 3 is way better than nexus 4. My comment is based on personal experience.
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Are you crazy????
Sure the gs3 may cost more but it's got an SDCARD SLOT!!!! how much do you think you can last on 16gigs without an sd card???
Plus it's got a bigger screen and a faster.processor. the only reason it gets slowed down is because.samsung hasn't done a great.job at configuring hardware. So , disable startup junk, clean, overclock if you wish, speedhack, change kernel and rom.
you'll see the difference between nexus 4 and sgs3. Nexus 4 is a step below. I did my good deal of research a while ago, im happy i bought the s3.
the bigger screen is easier to use.
Ive got my 2800milliamper battery in it so it lasts a lot.
It's fast.
I know the nexys 4 is a good device, i won't deny it. But it's lacking much in hardware compared to gs3. Not only does it have a smalle screen, but part of this screen is taken up by softwarw buttons. while galaxy has got all the free screen space to use.
Dont get nexus!!!!!
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In my opinion there is no contest on which phones better than the S3 or nexus 4.... S3 by miles, more storage, better camera, faster, better screen, newer phone & better technolgy! The only thing which is bad about the S3 is the plastic back case on the back of the phone. Plus this is like the same old question when it comes to phones.... which is better? iPhone or S3? Please dont get me started on the outdated software on the Apple iphone
But seriously its youre choice so think hard do some homework on it & try for youre self
But like some before have said its not worth getting a S3 at this time because the S4 is on the way.
Hope this helps
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But like some before have said its not worth getting a S3 at this time because the S4 is on the way
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Deanr spoke.my mind. I believe he still has his galaxy though...anyways it would be wise to waiit for s4 to come out and then buy the s3 when prices really drop.
Also i can't understand why people keep making comparisons with android devices and iphone. There is NO comparison whatsoever. How can ios be 'cool' if there are just minor customization options?? Plus apple keeps blocking the jailbreak releases.making ios even more useless.
only things keeping ios alive are its apps and jailbreak. They'll soon be forgotten.....
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See my experience thus far is nothing installs on SD, it gets sluggish so fast, there are definitely issues, I've not rooted it, as much as I want to, because it potentially voids my insurance cover. It frustrates me as the S2 did the app install so well but the S3 not so well.
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In my opinion there is no contest on which phones better than the S3 or nexus 4.... S3 by miles, more storage, better camera, faster, better screen, newer phone & better technolgy! The only thing which is bad about the S3 is the plastic back case on the back of the phone. Plus this is like the same old question when it comes to phones.... which is better? iPhone or S3? Please dont get me started on the outdated software on the Apple iphone
But seriously its youre choice so think hard do some homework on it & try for youre self
But like some before have said its not worth getting a S3 at this time because the S4 is on the way.
Hope this helps
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You serious? The only thing you're right is the better camera and more storage.
Both, the screen and the CPU are much worse than the N4.
Better tech? whaaaat? The screen has a pentile matrix and exynos is really behind the snapdragon S4. Also, the newer phone is the nexus.
Don't tell things that you don't know exactly plz.
All you samsung users, your devices are awesome, granted, but they will never be as smooth as the nexus line.
OP, go try both phones. It's a matter of taste. you won't feel a real difference in daily use anyway, except you're a ROM flasher like me, then you should get a nexus by any means, because the development of the nexus line is so good.
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You must be kidding me!! You're posting from a nexus 7 how can you say nexuses are fast? They are stable, they are smooth, but they will never be as fast as galaxy esses! (See benchmarks).
If a galaxy s3 a.d nexys 4 flash the same kind of rom and both optimize it for their phone, the s3 will be blazing fast and the nexus just smoother.
Sure nexus 4 has a good screen, maybe youre right and its even better quality, but its smaller and part of it is taken up by the soft buttons. Too bad, but i get to use all of my screen space. No lag at all (cause i know how to configure my s3). The only prpblem with s3 is it has been configured really badly by samsung...
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S3 is the plastic fantastic toy buy htc one
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You must be kidding me!! You're posting from a nexus 7 how can you say nexuses are fast? They are stable, they are smooth, but they will never be as fast as galaxy esses! (See benchmarks).
If a galaxy s3 a.d nexys 4 flash the same kind of rom and both optimize it for their phone, the s3 will be blazing fast and the nexus just smoother.
Sure nexus 4 has a good screen, maybe youre right and its even better quality, but its smaller and part of it is taken up by the soft buttons. Too bad, but i get to use all of my screen space. No lag at all (cause i know how to configure my s3). The only prpblem with s3 is it has been configured really badly by samsung...
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posting from a S3
I have a n7 and a n4 y'know. Browsing XDA on my tab is a bit cooler xP
Are you a benchmark kiddy? benchmarks say nothing. and I got many friends with S3's, because samsung and apple dominates switzerland. There are almost no other models out here except S2's S3's and iphones.
Benchmarks of the exynos chips are not better than the ones from snapdragon s4 pro. Anyways, what matters in daily use is how smooth the phone is, not the speed and fps it can get in benchmarks (though, the S4 destroys the exyons when software is on same level).
Screensize/screen-estate? Since I own my n4 i never used onscreen-softbuttons. I'm using gestures with GMD Gesture control and deactivated the softbuttons on AOKP. That way I have the full screen of the n4 available, wich is really cool at a lcd-density of 240.
I don't say the S3 is bad. I just don't get the point why someone should get the S3 above the n4 when memory and camera don't matter.
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Ur right if memory and camera (ive never been an hd camera fan, but ive noticed having 8mp makes me wanna use the camera more) are not important to the user, nexus 4 is best chioice.
But even thought im not a benchmark freak, and even though i too have friends with galaxies and a friend with an s3 that has made his phone so laggy i had to get him a new rom and kernel, so obviously the speed of the device depends on users smartness, im NOT giving up on s3 performance. Wanna benchmark-battle?:beer:
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Ur right if memory and camera (ive never been an hd camera fan, but ive noticed having 8mp makes me wanna use the camera more) are not important to the user, nexus 4 is best chioice.
But even thought im not a benchmark freak, and even though i too have friends with galaxies and a friend with an s3 that has made his phone so laggy i had to get him a new rom and kernel, so obviously the speed of the device depends on users smartness, im NOT giving up on s3 performance. Wanna benchmark-battle?:beer:
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I also know some guys with a S3 or S2 wich lags like hell. I don't know what they are doing, but those probs are mostly fixed when I flash them some good things.
Speed and user-experience depends on user smartness, that's really true
No benchmark battle for me, because my experiences are that kernels wich do better benchmarks mostly give worse userexperience in daily usage, but more fps in games.
But you can sure go and read some exynos 4412 vs s4 pro reviews, there are enough of them..
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Are you crazy????
Sure the gs3 may cost more but it's got an SDCARD SLOT!!!! how much do you think you can last on 16gigs without an sd card???
Plus it's got a bigger screen and a faster.processor. the only reason it gets slowed down is because.samsung hasn't done a great.job at configuring hardware. So , disable startup junk, clean, overclock if you wish, speedhack, change kernel and rom.
you'll see the difference between nexus 4 and sgs3. Nexus 4 is a step below. I did my good deal of research a while ago, im happy i bought the s3.
the bigger screen is easier to use.
Ive got my 2800milliamper battery in it so it lasts a lot.
It's fast.
I know the nexys 4 is a good device, i won't deny it. But it's lacking much in hardware compared to gs3. Not only does it have a smalle screen, but part of this screen is taken up by softwarw buttons. while galaxy has got all the free screen space to use.
Dont get nexus!!!!!
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