xoom 2 too late? - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

With the transformer prime rumored to be released Nov 9 and with the xoom 2 nowhere in sight the lure of a quad core tablet might inevitably draw me to the prime. I relish in xooms build quality and that's one thing that could steer me away from the prime. If it seems flimsy in design at all i'd pass. The xoom is structurally a firm tablet and I really hope to hear an official release soon of the xoom 2 or the lure of pentacore processing in the palm of my hand may be too much and I might have to reach out to asus.

I'm thinking about not bothering with the second generation tables and going for third generation instead.

I've read the xoom 2 won't come with the quad core processor therefore i will be getting an Asus Prime myself.

If Xoom 2 straps on N-Trig or Wacom digitizer interface then it is a no brainer for me since my primary work use for a slate is boardroom note taking, PDF annotation, and sketching simple line-drawings. My dual core Xoom with Tiamat is plenty capable and the next Googlerola Vanilla ICS is the experience I am looking forward to regardless of what others come up with.

lpasq said:
If Xoom 2 straps on N-Trig or Wacom digitizer interface then it is a no brainer for me since my primary work use for a slate is boardroom note taking, PDF annotation, and sketching simple line-drawings. My dual core Xoom with Tiamat is plenty capable and the next Googlerola Vanilla ICS is the experience I am looking forward to regardless of what others come up with.
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Can you tell me what you are using for note taking as well as pdf annotation? I am using Repligo for pdf but I have found noting that works well for note taking. Repligo is quirky also and I would be interested in your input. thanks

texasez said:
Can you tell me what you are using for note taking as well as pdf annotation? I am using Repligo for pdf but I have found noting that works well for note taking. Repligo is quirky also and I would be interested in your input. thanks
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Freenote is my go to on Xoom...get it from Market...last update matured it nice...still rough but it is a hybrid drawing tool with alot of features to tag files...I like it because I early adopted and know its features and many are to be discovered as needed since documentation is rough since developer is non English speaker.
The ripped and modded Supernote apk found on this forum seems to be a polished Freenote and seems to either be the developer's OEM version sold to Asus (I think that is the manufacturer ripped for the Xoom port)...If not the Freenote dev's work, then it is definitely a kang IMO.
Writepad is a XDA developed option found both on this forum and Market...people swear buy it and I like it but am condition to those above.
As for my Flyer with N-Trig and digital stylus the native note app is sweet but not ported for Xoom and capacitive interface. The sexiest app I think is the N-Trig digitized compatable MyScript Notes on Lenovo Thinkpad which can be side loaded on Flyer but I haven't yet...I had the Thinkpad Android slate for a week before selling the clunky and buggy device...This app converts freehand to type like no other to date.
As for annotation I suffer with Repligo on both Xoom and Flyer but Flyer allows direct annotations of screen shots because of N-Trig and the HTC digital stylus API.

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One week with a Xoom / Honeycomb

(posting here because I think that GTAB users would want to know about this)
Don't get me wrong - if we can find a way to port Honeycomb, I'm all for it. If anything else, some of the apps are very nice and would be a worthy update from Froyo.
However, at this particular moment, I'm not all that thrilled with Honeycomb on the Xoom. Mainly due to SPEED. Quadrant and Nenamark scrores are definitely lower than recent mods or even stock 3991 on the GTAB, and more importantly it's actually noticeable in real-world use. Case in point: Launcher Pro. On TNT Lite 5.0.0, it's very fast - but on the Xoom, it's actually choppy. I don't have an overclocked kernel, but I shouldn't HAVE to overclock it to get the same speeds as I have on my GTAB. And Angry Birds Seasons actually slows down at times! I don't I've ever seen that on my GTAB.
My point here is that the Xoom users aren't running a speedy little OS like we thought they would be. I assume that, eventually, Honeycomb will shake out the bugs and the speed will increase, but it's NOT as fast as the GTAB or the Adam. That is actually quite disappointing, given the price point.
The hardware is very nice (ie the screen angles are better, the camera is better, the speakers are better etc.), but the software needs improvement.
so, I guess that we should get a Ipad 2 then. =) just kidding. I played around it too for a few days, I could do pretty much everything in tnt lite or vegan 7... I am also not a big fan of the look - looks very cheap and fragile compares to Ipad2. I am leaning more to ASUS transformer and the screen is stunning. I guess that I will sell it in ebay and wait for the transformer which is scheduled to release in April starting $399..
Roebeet: I just wanted to say that "THANK YOU SO MUCH" for all your work and help here. Sorry, I just sold my gtab but I am NOT leaving Android. Just try to find a good match.. it is like looking for a wife.. hahaha.
Thanks for the candid and professional assessment. We have perhaps reposed too much faith in Honeycomb without reckoning on its infancy. After all, Android 3.0 is a paradigm shift in the firmware's evolution, and such shifts only come right after a few iterations.
Makes me think that those company's launching new tablets still running Froyo may have a point...let the public get to know new hardware in a familiar milieu until the Honeycomb environment matures.
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so, I guess that we should get a Ipad 2 then. =) just kidding. I played around it too for a few days, I could do pretty much everything in tnt lite or vegan 7... I am also not a big fan of the look - looks very cheap and fragile compares to Ipad2. I am leaning more to ASUS transformer and the screen is stunning. I guess that I will sell it in ebay and wait for the transformer which is scheduled to release in April starting $399..
Roebeet: I just wanted to say that "THANK YOU SO MUCH" for all your work and help here. Sorry, I just sold my gtab but I am leaving Android. Just try to find a good match.. it is like looking for a wife.. hahaha.
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You are very welcome! I am continually humbled by the user community, here.
I am still waiting for "the next big thing" - the Xoom was practically a gift, which is why I own one. But the ASUS looks very interesting, the Elocity A10 (if they ever release it) or the upcoming stuff from Malata.
I'm guessing that this slowness problem is mainly on Honeycomb / Nividia itself, so any Honeycomb Tegra 2 tablet would be slower than a GTAB/Adam, if it were released today. I'm confident that it will eventually be corrected.
As for the iPad2, anyone else find it interesting that they sold out so fast? That's not like Apple. I'm guessing that they were planning an April release but moved it up due to the Xoom release and now they've run out of the limited stock they had. All these companies play the same games.
I used a xoom today at bestbuy for about 20 minutes, in my short time, I found it too be very fluid and it flew, and the verizon signal was very strong, it was loading websites pretty much instantly. I bet if I owned a xoom it may not feel as good, but I can wait, for honeycomb. How is the battery life on your xoom?
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I used a xoom today at bestbuy for about 20 minutes, in my short time, I found it too be very fluid and it flew, and the verizon signal was very strong, it was loading websites pretty much instantly. I bet if I owned a xoom it may not feel as good, but I can wait, for honeycomb. How is the battery life on your xoom?
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I was in the same boat when I demoed it - it felt fast and fluid in the store. But after I had it in my hand and could compare it with my GTAB, my impression changed a bit.
Of course some for of these apps (like Launcher Pro) could just be problematic on Honeycomb. But when I see Nenamark scores that are so drastically different, then I know something's up. And Quadrant, which is not all that reliable keep in mind, is clocking in at ~1900. That around the same score as the original GTAB stock used to be.
As for battery, definitely no complaints. I haven't done any hard scores, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's in the 6 to 8 hour range.
I am leaning more to ASUS transformer and the screen is stunning. I guess that I will sell it in ebay and wait for the transformer which is scheduled to release in April starting $399..
I can't agree more with on the subject of the ASUS transformer. Even after seeing the leak of Staples selling the WiFi XOOM for 599.00, I'm still holding off for the transformer. Specs looked better and I'm sure ASUS will do their best to release a bug free product. Been a huge fan of ASUS for yrs now so I may be biased...nah. They just sell a good product.
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Thanks for the candid and professional assessment. We have perhaps reposed too much faith in Honeycomb without reckoning on its infancy. After all, Android 3.0 is a paradigm shift in the firmware's evolution, and such shifts only come right after a few iterations.
Makes me think that those company's launching new tablets still running Froyo may have a point...let the public get to know new hardware in a familiar milieu until the Honeycomb environment matures.
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I think this is an important thought maybe we should remember. Honeycomb was built new for tablets/Xoom while the rest stay with Froyo or Gingerbread. We've come to expect that each new release brings improvements to our devices, while Honeycomb really is a 1.0 release for tablets.
"Honeycomb really is a 1.0 release for tablets..."
Exactly my point, and well put.
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I was in the same boat when I demoed it - it felt fast and fluid in the store. But after I had it in my hand and could compare it with my GTAB, my impression changed a bit.
Of course some for of these apps (like Launcher Pro) could just be problematic on Honeycomb. But when I see Nenamark scores that are so drastically different, then I know something's up. And Quadrant, which is not all that reliable keep in mind, is clocking in at ~1900. That around the same score as the original GTAB stock used to be.
As for battery, definitely no complaints. I haven't done any hard scores, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's in the 6 to 8 hour range.
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Roebeet - are there any tools or monitors to show what an Android system is doing? For example, are there threads that are consuming too much CPU or is the I/O system really busy for some reason ... stuff like that.
i'm not sure but did motorola put any overlays on honeycomb like they have with their android phones (cliq w/motoblur)? if there is, maybe that's whats causing it to be a tad slower.
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i'm not sure but did motorola put any overlays on honeycomb like they have with their android phones (cliq w/motoblur)? if there is, maybe that's whats causing it to be a tad slower.
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Nope, the Xoom is a pure "Google Experience" device which means it is completely vanilla Android, just like Motorola's original Droid was a "Google Experience" phone.
Video Chat and/or BT Tether?
Does Zoom have either a working Video Chat app or the ability to use a mobile phone's data service via bluetooth or tether? If yes, can either of these capabilities be copied into a future ROM for gTablet?
Not sure this post belongs in this thread but I expect to have a Honeycomb device late next week. I can post my impressions of Android 3.0 on a different tablet, if anyone is interested.
The tab is the Acer Iconia A100. I've been looking for a 7 incher that has some class, and this one looks to be it.
Honeycomb on a 7" capacitive multitouch display (1024 x 600 pixels), Tegra 2, Nvidia GeForce GPU, 5 megapixels camera, 2 Megapixels front-facing camera, 512MB RAM, 8GB internal storage, micro-SD card slot, 1080p, Dolby Mobile sound, Wi-Fi, 3G, Bluetooth 2.1, Wi-Fi N, HDMI port, mini-USB and full-sized USB port.
Very nice form factor in a sleek minimalist design, as shown here:
http://gadgetian.com/8619/acer-iconia-tab-a100-specs-price/
A friend who's visiting Shenzhen, China, saw it (it's already released there) and asked if he should bring me one. For $296? Why ask?!
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Not sure this post belongs in this thread but I expect to have a Honeycomb device late next week. I can post my impressions of Android 3.0 on a different tablet, if anyone is interested.
The tab is the Acer Iconia A100. I've been looking for a 7 incher that has some class, and this one looks to be it.
Honeycomb on a 7" capacitive multitouch display (1024 x 600 pixels), Tegra 2, Nvidia GeForce GPU, 5 megapixels camera, 2 Megapixels front-facing camera, 512MB RAM, 8GB internal storage, micro-SD card slot, 1080p, Dolby Mobile sound, Wi-Fi, 3G, Bluetooth 2.1, Wi-Fi N, HDMI port, mini-USB and full-sized USB port.
Very nice form factor in a sleek minimalist design, as shown here:
http://gadgetian.com/8619/acer-iconia-tab-a100-specs-price/
A friend who's visiting Shenzhen, China, saw it (it's already released there) and asked if he should bring me one. For $296? Why ask?!
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It's got a Tegra 2 - this device could potentially be more helpful with development efforts than a Xoom. That's assuming it actually has Honeycomb - I wonder how they managed that?
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I haven't really tested either (I don't have a data plan and I don't plan on getting one). There's no video chat OOTB, tmk.
"It's got a Tegra 2 - this device could potentially be more helpful with development efforts than a Xoom. That's assuming it actually has Honeycomb - I wonder how they managed that?"
I wondered about that myself - but apparently it does have Honeycomb out of the box. I look forward to sharing my impressions.
Pricing over in Shenzhen gives you some insight into the mark-ups we suffer in the West. Consider these prices:
LG Optimus Pad 3D Touch Screen Android 3.0 Dual-core tablet PC USD$386
Toshiba 10.1 inch 64GB Android 3.0 Tablet With Nvidia Tegra 2 USD$399
ASUS Eee Slate EP121 4GB RAM 64GB SSD Windows 7 Tablet USD$499
Asus Eee Pad Slider keyboard 3G 10.1 inch 32GB tablets USD$356
Asus Eee Pad Transformer 3G 10.1 inch 1GB RAM 64GB tablet USD$356
Asus Eee Pad MeMO 7 inch 32GB Android 3.0 Tablet 1080p playback USD$266
Asus Eee Pad MeMO 7 inch 64GB Android 3.0 Tablet 1080p playback USD$299
Motorola Xoom 10.1 inch 64GB Android 3.0 Tablet USD$380
Blackberry Playbook 7 inch 64GB SSD Tablet USD$229
HTC Flyer 7 inch 1.5GHz Android 3.0 WIFI 3G Tablet Smartphone USD$309
Maybe XDA should charter a group flight to China?
Wondering.....
I heard that Moto released an update to the Xoom, and it bumped the Quadrant scores up nearly 30%. I was wondering if the update tightened things up a bit like VS did with the GTab.
zahir32 said:
Not sure this post belongs in this thread but I expect to have a Honeycomb device late next week. I can post my impressions of Android 3.0 on a different tablet, if anyone is interested.
The tab is the Acer Iconia A100. I've been looking for a 7 incher that has some class, and this one looks to be it.
Honeycomb on a 7" capacitive multitouch display (1024 x 600 pixels), Tegra 2, Nvidia GeForce GPU, 5 megapixels camera, 2 Megapixels front-facing camera, 512MB RAM, 8GB internal storage, micro-SD card slot, 1080p, Dolby Mobile sound, Wi-Fi, 3G, Bluetooth 2.1, Wi-Fi N, HDMI port, mini-USB and full-sized USB port.
Very nice form factor in a sleek minimalist design, as shown here:
http://gadgetian.com/8619/acer-iconia-tab-a100-specs-price/
A friend who's visiting Shenzhen, China, saw it (it's already released there) and asked if he should bring me one. For $296? Why ask?!
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Weight 470 grams
battery runtime's gonna be short...
Elocity A10 looked nice UNTIL nvidia announce Tegra3 kal-el quad core w/NEON, and improved GPU... gtab will get me by until a realistically priced Tegra3 tablet shows up... (which rules out motorola, samsung, and asus(I'm surprised with these guys as their prices are usually great on notebooks for the specs)...)
"Weight 470 grams
battery runtime's gonna be short..."
A sharp observation. Much depends on whether this thing will come to me with the 3G module in or not. (That's not clear to me). If it's running network data, I'll have to disable that service to conserve juice - as people have done with their Sprint Galaxy Tabs. We'll see!
Don't blame you for waiting out the first wave of tech in 2011. I myself will retain my Elocity A10 pre-order up to the end of March. If it doesn't arrive by then, I'm cancelling and will turn to either the LG Optimus Pad or the Asus Slider.
I was given a xoom to use for testing at work a couple of weeks ago, and been hammering at it pretty hard.
There's only one thing about the xoom that I love and get jealous about, its not the screen, or even Honeycomb, its the 10 point multi touch.
Doing anything that uses more then one input seems to work so much smother. If there was someway to upgrade that on my tab running Vegan Ginger, I think I'd be in heaven.

[Q] 7 Inches Or 10?

I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch. The thing is, I definitely prefer the screen size of the 10 inch. I saw someone on the train this morning with an iPad 2 reading a PDF on it and I could immediately see the advantage of the screen size for this. I have several technical PDFs which will be the first thing that I put on it.
However, I need to commute with this device and the 7 inch tablets seem far better due to their size and weight. They just seem more practical and I even question whether a 10 inch would fit in my bag (it should do but it'll be a tight squeeze). I've noticed that Adobe Reader has a text flow feature which seems to work reasonably well (but not perfectly) which helps with these large PDFs.
I suppose I am the only one that can really answer which one is best for me but I wondered if anyone went through a similar dilemma and what decision they made? Was it the right decision?
In a way, the 8.9 is probably the perfect compromise but they are way too expensive here in the UK. To qualify that statement, I can only afford a 10.1 by buying a manufacturer refurbished unit and there don't seem to be any 8.9 refurbs on the market.
you posted in a tab 7+ forum which is why you would mostly get biased anwers. anyways, i hate 10 inch tablets 'cause they're too big. but one time, i also considered buying the GTab 10.1. however, by reading the 10.1 forum, I've read a lot of negative feedbacks on how much it lagged, etc. Try visiting the General section of the GTab 10.1.
Also take a sneak peek at the GSMArena comparison here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4208&idPhone2=3894
Specifically look for the processor power. GTab+ has a Dual Core Exynos 1.2GHz while the GTab 10.1 only has a Dual Core Tegra 1GHz. You can also look around the web why Exynos is better and faster than Tegra 2. I think the only reason why Tegra is better is because of the Tegra Games which BTW can also be played on Exynos chipsets by using the Chainfire 3d app (FREE).
Now if size and weight matters, it would always boil down to your preferences. If you like heavy, expensive, large screen, not-so-thin tablets, buy the GTab 10.1. But if you adore the little, light, not-so-expensive, thin tablets, buy the GTab+.
You would be surprised how much this little thing can do for you.
Good luck!
10.1 isn't exactly expensive - since it's been around longer, you can find refurbs for less than the Tab Plus.
It's really a matter of preference - the Plus has a better CPU, the 10.1 has a better screen (higher resolution, larger size), although the "larger size" aspect of the 10.1 isn't always a positive.
I've never found my 10.1 laggy
Gunnzie said:
I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch
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Honestly who didn't giggle and say in their head "THATS what she said..."
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Ipad is better than Android tablets?

I am a die hard android fan, and windows and Linux as far as the pc goes. Personally I can't stand apple, or anything they make. However, a reoccurring statement I've seen is that android tablets are nowhere near the ipad. Why is this? For what reason are android tablets considered under developed at the time. What makes the ipad so much of a better tablet? Spec wise they don't stand out too much, aside from the newest having a high res and a good gpu. Is it just because the Android tablets have a smaller market? Or does it have to do with the OS not working properly. I'm Just curious as to why people don't think android tablets are worthwhile
As much as i know, tegra 3>a5 processor
Personally, I would stick with Android. Sure, the display is better, but a locked OS, severely restricted download capabilities, and no ability to side load limit what you can do. Just my two cents.
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As much as i know, tegra 3>a5 processor
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iPad 3 has much better gpu.
mobile.theverge.com/2012/3/13/2868090/the-ipad-3-gpu-is-a-beast-compared-to-nvidia-tegra-3-and-qualcomm-s4
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I am a die hard android fan, and windows and Linux as far as the pc goes. Personally I can't stand apple, or anything they make. However, a reoccurring statement I've seen is that android tablets are nowhere near the ipad. Why is this? For what reason are android tablets considered under developed at the time. What makes the ipad so much of a better tablet? Spec wise they don't stand out too much, aside from the newest having a high res and a good gpu. Is it just because the Android tablets have a smaller market? Or does it have to do with the OS not working properly. I'm Just curious as to why people don't think android tablets are worthwhile
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Its just horses for courses, personal preference.
New android tablets are coming out like the mediapad 10 which imho are better than ipad though ipads gpu and screen are great what people forget is that apps are upscaled to the high ipad resolution so don't all look as good, the screen is in 4:3 format so videos either have to waste all the extra pixels by using them to display black bars or zoom in the video so its more blurry and stretched.
So for viewing hd video for example the new ipad is not as good.
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the new iPad haves better processor for gaming, and you people say that iPad cannot be customized, if you dont know, you can always jailbreak it, it gives you customization potential that android haves. In english: iPad for gaming, and android for everything else. you can actually have flash on your ipad when youre jailbroken. but android is also cheaper. but cheap android tablet also is slow and not so good, and ipad gets more updates and faster. you choose. i would choose iPad even im a great android fan
This is my personel preferrence but I don't play on my iPad two anyway near as much as my android devices, iPad games are expensive and even though once jailbroken they can be customized, the layout of apps and things is still the same. We have launchers and Roms that are very customizable and Cpu' you can overclock.can you overclock an iPad?
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the new iPad haves better processor for gaming, and you people say that iPad cannot be customized, if you dont know, you can always jailbreak it, it gives you customization potential that android haves. In english: iPad for gaming, and android for everything else. you can actually have flash on your ipad when youre jailbroken. but android is also cheaper. but cheap android tablet also is slow and not so good, and ipad gets more updates and faster. you choose. i would choose iPad even im a great android fan
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I agree gpu is better and yes cheap android tablets tend to be slow but why compare ipad to cheap tablets and not ones in its price range instead?
And a jailbroken ios device can still not do all an android can do, my most obvious example being tasker like automation or live wallpapers.
But yes new ipad is very good for gaming although not all its potential can be used.
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Android tablets are more fascinating and gives you more power than the ipad,which doesn‘t
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Vadimjke said:
As much as i know, tegra 3>a5 processor
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While the tegra 3 is the only quad core chipset available right now, nvidia did a pretty terrible job with it. It's constantly out performed by dual core chips such as Krait and exynos in most areas. Most apps can't utilize four processors, and the ones that do are games that are actually dependent on the gpu. And in that sense, the Kal-El gpu in the terga 3 chip is a toy compared to the pvr m4 gpu in the ipad. The four cores in the pvr outperform even the full 12 in the Kal-El gpu. I'd expect more for the manufacturer of some of the best desktop graphics cards in the world. So all you're going to benefit from the tegra three chip is slightly better power savings when you're doing heavy multitasking. I'd trade off the four cores for a Krait cpu with an adreno gpu any day. At the moment the ipad 3's chipset is the best out there.
Has to be Android all the way.
Open source and pretty much does anything you want whereas i just see the Ipad as a nice looking tablet but it doesn't do much!!
Has anyone notice as well that the accessories are ridiculously over priced for all Apple products
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Has to be Android all the way.
Open source and pretty much does anything you want whereas i just see the Ipad as a nice looking tablet but it doesn't do much!!
Has anyone notice as well that the accessories are ridiculously over priced for all Apple products
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Thats a common complaint against apple. They claim they're products are ultra compatible, yet in order to connect them to anything non apple you have to be an extensive and expensive set of cables and adapters
Bumpity bump. I'd like some more opinions :/
Well I am in the market for my first tablet at the moment.
Girlfriend is an iphone user so just know she will pick faults with anything that does not work as well as, or slightly different to ios.
I have yet to find a good alternative to airplay, I have yet to find a feature and usage complete alternative to airplay/remote combo. PS3 media server (for the PS3) and dlna with 10k+ mp3's is not in the same league.
So think I will be leaning towards the ipad, even the nerd in me does not see a great advantage for any current android tablet vs ipad..
I think Android is better!!
Is anybody love for ESPOW android tablet pc?
There is no doubt Ipad id better than android tablet,but not everyone can offord it.
Is anybody love for ESPOW android tablet pc?
I think it is a smart choice.
Although I hate to admit it, the ipad is definitely up there in terms of ease of use etc. However, I definitely couldn't handle the restrictiveness and would opt for a transformer prime.
I had an eee pad transformer tf101 for a while and like on my droid razr, really enjoyed the customization, flashing roms such as Android revolution hd which really improved the tablet in terms of reliability and smoothness. Using live wallpapers and custom launchers was also great fun. However, it experienced some rather inconvencing problems such as the touch screen intermittently dying and poor build quality, the bezel around the edge came loose from the screen and made the screen uncomfortably flexible.
Recently i bought the new ipad and the build quality is simply flawless. For word processing pages is again, flawless. The same can be said for keynote and numbers. It is also extremely smooth and the retina display is beautiful.
I love android and its flexibility for customization but in the case of eee pad transformer and even galaxy tab 10.1 which i have some experience using, vs the new ipad?
The iPad wins by a country mile.
I'll just have to get my developing fix from my droid razr
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All fanboys are phyocrties one way or another. It's impossible to convince an true android fanboy to believe the ipad is better as a tablet than android.
Most of then bash based on raw power leaving out optimisation, app compatibility, android rt and user experience from a tablet pov rather than synthetic benchmark. Tablet userbility> specs that mean nothing on ios as it is more efficient, built on c+, customisation, phone app on tablet real state.
Gade to see some fanboys understanding both sides. You can tell from my username that I was once a fanboy like many on xda

Surface Tab for Photographers?

Looking at the new Surface tab and its features, it looks really nice. One thing that I noticed is it has pen capabilities. I have not been able to find much on the specs of this side of the tab though.
This still has me excited however as a photog. Do you think this might be a cheaper - although reduced feature - alternative to a Wacom Tablet? I bet photo editing and even full on image creation could be pretty nice on this thing.
Your thoughts?
I was thinking the same thing.
We kknow it will run Lightroom and I hope it will run Photoshop. I picture this also working as a Live view extender.
It is the Windows 8 Pro version of Surface that supports the pen input. Therefore, it is probably very similar in functionality to an existing Windows 7 tablet running Windows 8 release preview. i.e. Asus EP121, Samsung slate, etc.
The only question is what digitizer and how many levels of pressure input it supports. This is still unknown. However, given that EP121 shipped with 4GB RAM, I would expect that Windows 8 Pro would ship with at least 8GB of RAM.
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I was thinking the same thing.
We kknow it will run Lightroom and I hope it will run Photoshop. I picture this also working as a Live view extender.
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A live view extender would be awesome. I really hope it runs PS because I would love to just draw directly on the tab. I was looking at one of those Wacom tabs but those look a bit to large to be ergonomic for me - as awesome as they are.
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A live view extender would be awesome. I really hope it runs PS because I would love to just draw directly on the tab. I was looking at one of those Wacom tabs but those look a bit to large to be ergonomic for me - as awesome as they are.
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I bought the bamboo for detail photo editing and its fantastic! Only $100.
wrexus said:
It is the Windows 8 Pro version of Surface that supports the pen input. Therefore, it is probably very similar in functionality to an existing Windows 7 tablet running Windows 8 release preview. i.e. Asus EP121, Samsung slate, etc.
The only question is what digitizer and how many levels of pressure input it supports. This is still unknown. However, given that EP121 shipped with 4GB RAM, I would expect that Windows 8 Pro would ship with at least 8GB of RAM.
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I noticed this too. Windows-RT will not do pen input. I wonder if this really is down to ARM not being able to handle it, or whether it is an artificial limitation put up by Microsoft to differentiate the Pro offering? If it is the latter, it would be pathetic.
The galaxy note has pen input and runs arm. Although i dont know the pressure and all that, im no photographer... and surface pro ofcourse will run PS and it supports regular exe programs. And cs6 works fine with windows 8
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[Q] Quickest rooted 10" tablet

Since there is an RDP app as well as Team viewer available for android I am looking at getting a 10" android tablet instead of a Windows tablet. I have read quite a few reviews and I would like to hear some feedback from actual users now. I need one that has good reliable Wi-Fi capabilities since a lot of times I will be remoting to other devices. I also need a microsd slot. I also need at least a 1280x800 display. I had looked at the Nexus 10 but no microsd. Right now I am leaning towards the Samsung Note 10.1(the new version), Asus transformer Pad, or possibly the Galaxy Note 8. I am open to any other tablet as well as long as it meets my requirements.
ElAguila said:
Since there is an RDP app as well as Team viewer available for android I am looking at getting a 10" android tablet instead of a Windows tablet. I have read quite a few reviews and I would like to hear some feedback from actual users now. I need one that has good reliable Wi-Fi capabilities since a lot of times I will be remoting to other devices. I also need a microsd slot. I also need at least a 1280x800 display. I had looked at the Nexus 10 but no microsd. Right now I am leaning towards the Samsung Note 10.1(the new version), Asus transformer Pad, or possibly the Galaxy Note 8. I am open to any other tablet as well as long as it meets my requirements.
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Yep, the note10 and the trasformer are pretty good choice, I also recommend to check the Sony Xperia Z tablet:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tablet_z-review-931.php

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