No Signal = Battery Eater! - HTC Desire S

Noticed a severe problem on my Desire!
I went on a camping trip yesterday, and just got back a few hours ago.
And my battery life has been terrible!
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I had 99% battery, put the phone to sleep in my pocket, and 2 hours later, I had 86%!! I never touched the phone! and I use governors for the phone to be at 122-307mhz ..
another 2 hours, and then it dropped from 86% to 74%!
I noticed both times the phone had no signal, as I was up in the mountains... It must have been the battery eater!
So the phone dropped from 99% to 74% in 4 hours on standby! After that, I decided to put the phone on hibernate..
Previously, if I left the phone on standby with signal at home, it could get me 8-9 hours before it drops from 100%-99%!
Phone is currently charging. Bit disappointed!
(Note: in my graph, it shows I had GPS on, but I only used it for 5 minutes, when it was at 100% to drop to 99%. I also had ALL data connections off, apart from the phone on)
Anyone have similiar expierences?
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Low signal is a battery eater on all phones. If you have no signal, it has to search for a signal source more often, I certainly have this on my Desire S too.
Regards,
Crwblyth

crwblyth said:
Low signal is a battery eater on all phones. If you have no signal, it has to search for a signal source more often, I certainly have this on my Desire S too.
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Agreed. If I know that I am in a no-signal area and I really need to preserve battery, I either put the phone in airplane mode or switch it off completely.

latest radios sux big time if we speak about signal.. phone lose and search signal very often..and u can see some times 1 some times full signal bar and sometime no bars at all.

Thanks for the replies guys
I'm currently on the radio from the OTA .4 update...
Guess I'm now gonna upgrade to the .5 one, as that too has heavy drainage!
Cheers!
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fasty said:
Agreed. If I know that I am in a no-signal area and I really need to preserve battery, I either put the phone in airplane mode or switch it off completely.
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Aeroplane mode on all sense roms that i've tried on this device use about for times the battery that normal use does, air plane mode use =18mA compared to 5-8mA with phone and wifi on (these figures are obviously from a good reception phone area and connected to wifi with a strong signal, it's difficult to test in a bad reception signal area where I live)
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If you know that you're going to be in a poor signal areas then it's a good idea to switch the phone so that it only receives 2g signals, add thus will reduce the about of polling that occurs and therefore reduce the waste in battery use
Obvious but daft, if going camping where's you know you'll have little to no signal then it probably pays to simply power down the phone when you're not going to use it
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ben_pyett said:
Aeroplane mode on all sense roms that i've tried on this device use about for times the battery that normal use does, air plane mode use =18mA compared to 5-8mA with phone and wifi on
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That's curious, thanks for the info.
Must admit, I've only used airplane mode briefly when I specifically needed to use some other function on the phone, so I guess I never noticed the extra consumption.
It sounds completely counter-intuitive that it used more power, but you have clearly got detailed information!
I can certainly say for sure though that switching the phone off completely extends battery life loads

*#*#4636#*#* > Phone information > Turn off radio

Oly I've noticed this problem too. I normally keep my phone in my pocket at all times.
While operating for fractures, we sometimes wear lead aprons to protect us from xray radiation which emanates from the image intensifier.
These are 0.5 mm sheets of lead which block out or attenuate all radiation...including phone signal!!!
I had noticed that if I go in with even 95% battery, by the end of 6 hrs my battery would come down to 10% to 13% without ANY use!!! So I started leaving the phone out on the table and no more battery drain...!
I'm on stock radio by the way. Heard bad things about the battery drain on the new one even with normal signal. I could be wrong...I'm just quoting the opinions of people who've used it.
So I guess in any situation where signal is poor the phone goes bonkers trying to scan for a stronger signal and kills the battery!!!
Beamed from outer space using brainwaves...

zeekiz said:
*#*#4636#*#* > Phone information > Turn off radio
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Any one else finding that on hyperion or any ROM with rcmix3d tweaks installed that this *#*# code now takes you to quick launch setup options screen rather than the advanced menu where you could switch to 2g?
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olyloh6696 said:
Thanks for the replies guys
I'm currently on the radio from the OTA .4 update...
Guess I'm now gonna upgrade to the .5 one, as that too has heavy drainage!
Cheers!
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.5 radio can you share link please?

if u go to Wirelles & networks>Mobile networks>Network Mode>GSM only signal is full.problem is with WCDMA..gsm work just fine.

ben_pyett said:
Any one else finding that on hyperion or any ROM with rcmix3d tweaks installed that this *#*# code now takes you to quick launch setup options screen rather than the advanced menu where you could switch to 2g?
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Oh yeah. Confirmed it does here. Playing with RCMix as of last night. Odd, I wonder how you get to testing mode now. I'll investigate.
To Oli: Can't remember if you use Tasker? If you don't remember to switch off 3G, set a profile to drop 3G when outside the radius of your town/city and signal strength drops below 'x' dB for 'y' minutes as long as screen is off. That'd work too.

ngek202 said:
.5 radio can you share link please?
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See zeekiz' thread in the development section
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wnp_79 said:
Oh yeah. Confirmed it does here. Playing with RCMix as of last night. Odd, I wonder how you get to testing mode now. I'll investigate.
To Oli: Can't remember if you use Tasker? If you don't remember to switch off 3G, set a profile to drop 3G when outside the radius of your town/city and signal strength drops below 'x' dB for 'y' minutes as long as screen is off. That'd work too.
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Nope, don't use tasker yet!
However, read your guide last week again! And it got me very tempted to buy it! I'll get it soon
Thanks everyone for the input
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM
"The transmission power in the handset is limited to a maximum of 2 watts in GSM850/900 and 1 watt in GSM1800/1900."
If the phone is trying to communicate with a base station and having to transmit at that kind of power to reach it (in poor signal areas) it's going to drain your battery pretty quickly...

I can confirm, I also work in an area with poor coverage and it normally ( with stock 2.3.3 rom) would come down from 100 to 10 % in about 8 hours on standby..
Now I have changed to Proxuser 2.3.5/Sense3.0 it has improved but still very unhappy with the lifetime though. I would like to have 3 days at least with moderate use.
Here is a screenshot of the 2.3.3 drainage.

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[Q] Has anyone found a solution for the poor battery life experienced by some of us?

I've removed notifications from apps, uninstalled google+, exchanged my battery with Verizon, and I'm still getting under 6 hours with moderate use using my stock phone.
Creating more threads certainly won't help.
I was able to correct my battery issue recently, however, there is no guaranteed fix and if there is, I haven't fount it.
Also, I'm not running a stock Charge, so you can't really compare your Charge to mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15679785&postcount=257
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damn i want your battery life
gnarlynewport said:
I've removed notifications from apps, uninstalled google+, exchanged my battery with Verizon, and I'm still getting under 6 hours with moderate use using my stock phone.
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I would think there is a problem w/ the phone. Mine lasts all day (17-18hrs) 1.5-2hrs screen on time, handfull of phone calls and texts, notifications and widgets refreshing. Usually there is between 10 and 35% remaining when I plug in for the night.
I get great battery life. Here are the requirements(lol).
1)Humble(battery saving ROM)
2)Juicedefender(If you like the free app you may want to buy Ultimate, its kinda pricy but I think it's worth it)
3)Always charge your phone with the power off, it gives it a full charge.
4)Possibly the most important step is to ALWAYS task kill and clear RAM after you're done with an app(phone comes with Task Manger pre-installed. Hitting the home key does NOT close the app it just puts it in standby meaning it can keep your phone from sleeping(Kills battery life) and with it running in the background is just killing even more battery life.
Follow the above steps and I can('t) guarantee you great battery life. I say can('t) because I don't want to get hate if it for some reason doesn't work for you :] Enjoy!
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Creating more threads certainly won't help.
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+1 for that...
Humble Froyo is the longest lasting ROM/kernel imho, I can last all day with heavy usage.
Shut GPS off. For some reason, my GPS keeps refreshing at incredibly tight intervals (sub 5 minutes). Haven't figured out what program is causing that, but as soon as I shut GPS off until I need to use it, I've gone from 6-8 hours of battery life to easily 15-18.
I've tried humble for 2 days and I barely get 5 hours, but due to difficulties, the rom was not installed when my battery was at 100%. I plan on trying again tonight. Thanks for the advice about GPS. I usually turn it off, but I find myself using maps and yelp to find local places.
blarrick said:
I get great battery life. Here are the requirements(lol).
2)Juicedefender(If you like the free app you may want to buy Ultimate, its kinda pricy but I think it's worth it)
Follow the above steps and I can('t) guarantee you great battery life. I say can('t) because I don't want to get hate if it for some reason doesn't work for you :] Enjoy!
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FYI, Juicedefender did not play nice with my phone (worked fine on my OG droid). It would work fine in a solid 4g area, but in fringe areas the data would not come back and I would have to reboot to get it back. Since removing JD I have never had a problem with no data.
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FYI, Juicedefender did not play nice with my phone (worked fine on my OG droid). It would work fine in a solid 4g area, but in fringe areas the data would not come back and I would have to reboot to get it back. Since removing JD I have never had a problem with no data.
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I had the exact same experience with Juice Defender. Feeling annoyed that I ended up shelling out for the Ultimate version in the hopes it might work better and it doesn't.
I get mediocre battery life...about 10-12 hours with moderate usage...nowhere near the 20+. I'll have to give it a shot for turning off GPS to see if that resolves anything.
GPS is a huge battery hog. Put the power control widget on your home screen do you can control gps wifi etc from one shortcut.
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Edvard_Greig said:
I had the exact same experience with Juice Defender. Feeling annoyed that I ended up shelling out for the Ultimate version in the hopes it might work better and it doesn't.
I get mediocre battery life...about 10-12 hours with moderate usage...nowhere near the 20+. I'll have to give it a shot for turning off GPS to see if that resolves anything.
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juice defender has been working fine on my phone (however i am rarely in 4g unless i am working so i usually have 4g turned off with 4g switch). My battery has lasted forever i am currently on hour 25 with little to moderate use and about 64 percent battery left.
before i turned 4g off and installed juice defender i would get around 10 to 12 hours of battery life on my phone.
mendez815 said:
juice defender has been working fine on my phone (however i am rarely in 4g unless i am working so i usually have 4g turned off with 4g switch). My battery has lasted forever i am currently on hour 25 with little to moderate use and about 64 percent battery left.
before i turned 4g off and installed juice defender i would get around 10 to 12 hours of battery life on my phone.
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Which 4g switch would you recommend? I'm trying the LTE Switch by buttercrumbs for free since the others either cost 99 cents or don't work with the Charge.
Edit: Looks like LTE Switch doesn't have a widget. It'd be nice if there was a one-click solution. LTE switch takes 3-4 clicks to switch between CDMA and LTE.
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Which 4g switch would you recommend? I'm trying the LTE Switch by buttercrumbs for free since the others either cost 99 cents or don't work with the Charge.
Edit: Looks like LTE Switch doesn't have a widget. It'd be nice if there was a one-click solution. LTE switch takes 3-4 clicks to switch between CDMA and LTE.
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lte switch was the one i used it was the simplest i have seen.
also i am still going on the battery up to 1 day 15 hours 12 min and 28 sec with 21 percent battery left. will post a screenshot later when the battery gets a little lower.
I am now glad i got rid of the thunderbolt with these settings on the thunderbolt i still only made it one day tops.

[q] why does mobile data cause so much heat!!?

So i relised that when i habe. Mobole data enabled and im browsing the web my phone gets really hot 44C when i have wifi on my phoke doesnt go past 35! Battery drain using mobile data is awful to... Any ideas why?
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+1 on this..weird.
Mine also on mobile get as high 47c, while wifi only 34.6c
;(
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I want this to be somehow fixed i hate the feel of it when its hot!! Causes my battery to drain more to
The phone getting hot doesn't drain your battery more... the fact that mobile data uses more power than wifi makes your battery drain more. That is also the reason for it getting warm... nearly every smartphone I have had with 3G has done this. Normal.
My dhd never got hot when using mobile data
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Neither did my Hero.
This sucks. My Sensation apparently can only browse the Internet using mobile data for 2.5 hours before the battery dies. I'm pretty sure that's not the case for the SGSII either
My sensation gets pretty hot to, but that wouldnt be such a problem if the batterylife would be good. At the moment my battery drains about 8%/hour when it's idle... so i have 12,5 hours stanby time! that sucks -.- I'm gonna get a Anker battery soon and hope it's gonna get better with that...
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torken said:
My sensation gets pretty hot to, but that wouldnt be such a problem if the batterylife would be good. At the moment my battery drains about 8%/hour when it's idle... so i have 12,5 hours stanby time! that sucks -.- I'm gonna get a Anker battery soon and hope it's gonna get better with that...
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If you get 8%/hour drain while idle, and truly idle (i.e. your phone is truly in sleep mode) then you've a faulty model - bring it back
See my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16582630&postcount=30
manuelkuhs said:
If you get 8%/hour drain while idle, and truly idle (i.e. your phone is truly in sleep mode) then you've a faulty model - bring it back
See my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16582630&postcount=30
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Well i don't know how it was with the stock rom and anything. And i don't have any longtime informations with custom roms, kernels and so on, because i just recently flashed a cr.
But today I unplugged it at 8:30am and it had 100% at 10:30 it had 84% and now it has 70% and from 8:30 to 10:30 i was only on facebook and surfed a little for maybe 10 minutes or so :S
Now I flashed Bricked Kernle v.1.5 i hope that its gonna be better with that.
torken said:
Well i don't know how it was with the stock rom and anything. And i don't have any longtime informations with custom roms, kernels and so on, because i just recently flashed a cr.
But today I unplugged it at 8:30am and it had 100% at 10:30 it had 84% and now it has 70% and from 8:30 to 10:30 i was only on facebook and surfed a little for maybe 10 minutes or so :S
Now I flashed Bricked Kernle v.1.5 i hope that its gonna be better with that.
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Do you know if you're phone is actually sleeping when the screen is off? To check, go Settings - About Phone - Battery. Here you can see Up & Awake Time, but to see more accurately, click on Battery Use, then click on the graph. Look at the Awake bars and make sure they correspond to the Screen On bars.
The screen on/off and active bar are almost identical. There are some little tiny active times when the screen is off, but thats probably some syncing...
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I think almost every sensation phone users is facing the problem too...including me.
I really hate it when my phone gets heated up and when i put it in my pocket it feels like a boiled egg inside.
torken said:
The screen on/off and active bar are almost identical. There are some little tiny active times when the screen is off, but thats probably some syncing...
As you can see here:
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Faulty model, return it! On (real) standby (which the image shows you have) you should get only 1-2% battery drain, even on Sensation
TransporterxJ said:
I think almost every sensation phone users is facing the problem too...including me.
I really hate it when my phone gets heated up and when i put it in my pocket it feels like a boiled egg inside.
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Don't think that's true.
For one, there was a few weeks when my phone did not heat up like crazy from normal usage and I could make it last 2 days. Then one day it started heating up like crazy... also plenty people report 2 days battery on moderate usage with Sensation - i.e. no crazy battery drain.
Could it be that my phone is alright and only the battery is faulty? It would suck to return it -.-
It's not a faulty model. There are no known issues with standby drain on any sensation.
Notice the image shows times with poor signal too. Additionally he may have auto sync handling too many accounts.
It's getting better with the ROM I'm using at the moment and i orderd a Anker battery. I hope it's gonna get even better with that beauty
I can't explain any facts, but I really don't think slightly higher battery drain is because of a faulty phone. I've owned two Androids and tinkered extensively with many, many others. Most Android phones seem to be awake similarly to that one user's battery graph. It's normal.

[Q] Battery life. SKYICS rc7.3 ~ 9 HRS 43 MIN max charge.

I've had my skyrocket for about a month now, and I've had horrible horrible battery life compared to all of you guys on here. I've tried reflashing, did the whole .3e recovery/ wipe/ fresh install tutorial that Seanz posted. (Amazing rom by the way.)
Nothing seems to work. I've calibrated my battery at least 4 different times. Oh, and for Seanz, You say your rom is 2.3.5, but in my settings it says 2.3.6. My brightness is all the way down, My data, bluetooth, gps, etc are ALL OFF! Only thing I keep on is wifi, ALWAYS. I've tried leaving my phone off the charger all night and locked to see if the drain was the same, and it is, If not just a tad less drain. I'm sorry if I didn't clarify this good enough, If someone could help me out I'd be glad to explain myself better!
Does your phone maintain a strong to moderate signal (both data and talk)? This includes the strength of your WiFi connection. I've noticed one of the biggest (if not the biggest) drain on this phone and most others comes when the phone is strugling for a decent connection. If you can, try this: put your phone in "Airplane" mode for 1 charging cycle. This means your phone won't even try to get a wireless connection of any type. To be safe, make sure the "WiFi" is off as well. See how long the battery lasts compared to it not being in "Airplane" mode. If it still sucks, you might need to see which app(s) are draining your phone. If it is noticably different, a weak signal might be the problem. Good luck.
Interlaced said:
You say your rom is 2.3.5, but in my settings it says 2.3.6.
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He changed it only in text for certain apps that require Android 2.3.6, even though they'd work completely fine on 2.3.5. Somewhat an easy workaround. Also took some of the features from 2.3.6 in. It's still built from 2.3.5 though.
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Only thing I keep on is wifi, ALWAYS.
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Thiiiis is probably your big issue. If you have any apps running in the background that use data, they can keep the wifi awake, which, in turn, never lets your phone sleep. If you go to Settings>Wireless and network>Wi-fi Settings>Menu Button>Wi-Fi Sleep Policy, and set it to "When screen is off," you'll be AMAZED at how much life it can save. I've noticed drastic differences when that setting is applied. As far as without it losing around 10-15% overnight to a mere 1%.
Thanks for your replies! I'll try you guys' ideas out now. I seem to lose about 1-3 percent every 10 minutes. I'll put it in airplane mode and try it for an hour.
Thank you Fortune! was wondering how to do this, You could have just solved my problem. I'll keep you guys informed! I'm amazed at this communities helpfulness. Thank you!
No prob!
Though, next time, if you have a question, should post it in the Q&A section of this forum. People tend to get a bit pissy about seeing Q's posted in other places, haha. Just giving a heads up!
Hope those fixes fix your battery life! That wifi sleep on has been key for my 30+ hr battery lives on SkyICS.
Seemed to not help :| Since I've done this, It's gone from 22% to 17% in about 15-20 minutes. No apps running, etc.
Try downloading CPU Spy from the market place and after awhile of letting it rest (about an hour or so), open it, refresh and check to see the CPU uses the "Deep Sleep" frequency at all and to see which frequencies it spends most of its time in.
Also wouldn't hurt to check Settings>About Phone>Battery Use to see what's using most of your battery life. Display, Android System, and Android OS typically hold the top 3 spots, so if anything is up there (or at a close 4th), that app could be what's bogging it down.
I downloaded CPU Spy and it seemed to already have data for it and it says 4% in deep sleep, 65% in 38 mhz, 5% in 810 MHz, and 1% in 1026 mhz, 17% in 1728 MHz
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I downloaded CPU Spy and it seemed to already have data for it and it says 4% in deep sleep, 65% in 38 mhz, 5% in 810 MHz, and 1% in 1026 mhz, 17% in 1728 MHz
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Alright, well so far so good. Shows it's at least getting some deep sleep and able to idle in low frequencies. Can't really get TOO well of a reading until it's done some time with it idling though.
Do not set wifi policy to screen off, keep it at always. this will keep your data using wifi when connected which is way less of a drain than the 4g radio. Basically with the screen off policy your phone will still use data, it will just come from cellular instead of wifi when screen is off.
Also get this
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1&hl=en
It will tell you what is running constantly and draining your battery.
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colonel187 said:
Do not set wifi policy to screen off, keep it at always. this will keep your data using wifi when connected which is way less of a drain than the 4g radio. Basically with the screen off policy your phone will still use data, it will just come from cellular instead of wifi when screen is off.
Also get this
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1&hl=en
It will tell you what is running constantly and draining your battery.
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Since he has his data off, turning off the wifi with screen off will benefit him greatly. It would be stuck on otherwise. Noted:
Interlaced said:
My data, bluetooth, gps, etc are ALL OFF! Only thing I keep on is wifi, ALWAYS.
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And that app was one I was trying to think of and couldn't recall. Also definitely recommended.
Fortune090 said:
Since he has his data off, turning off the wifi with screen off will benefit him greatly. It would be stuck on otherwise. Noted:
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Ah ha. You are correct. I skipped over that detail. Just kidding about the wifi then. don't listen to me....
having wifi on all the time does not drain the battery...i have wifi on 24/7 an can easily get 36 hours
30% left and ive got 26 hours runninh wifi on
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polish_pat said:
having wifi on all the time does not drain the battery...i have wifi on 24/7 an can easily get 36 hours
30% left and ive got 26 hours runninh wifi on
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Ohwow.... That's....... Interesting, haha. If I notice my wifi is on for extended periods of time, my battery starts draining a bit faster than normal.
Might have some app in his background either keeping the phone awake or just hogging background data, keeping the wifi constantly active.
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the real issue is when i actually stop being on wifi. when my phone uses data connection, mostly LTE because its everywhere around me, the battery life becomes miserable. I left the house for about 1 hour today, you can clearly see it on the graph. I should try to cut all connectivity and just allow the phone to sync every now and then, im sure ill be able to add another half a day at least to my already 1.5 days with wifi on all the time
polish_pat said:
the real issue is when i actually stop being on wifi. when my phone uses data connection, mostly LTE because its everywhere around me, the battery life becomes miserable. I left the house for about 1 hour today, you can clearly see it on the graph. I should try to cut all connectivity and just allow the phone to sync every now and then, im sure ill be able to add another half a day at least to my already 1.5 days with wifi on all the time
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Yeah, data is a KILLER. For me, it's usually wifi or nothing, unless I'm trying to send or receive an MMS, or need to quickly access the Internet, but I turn it back off as soon as I'm done, and I set my network to no LTE because it's not in my area.
Just take that as a note OP, lol.
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Fortune090 said:
Yeah, data is a KILLER. For me, it's usually wifi or nothing, unless I'm trying to send or receive an MMS, or need to quickly access the Internet, but I turn it back off as soon as I'm done, and I set my network to no LTE because it's not in my area.
Just take that as a note OP, lol.
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Yeah same here. I notice more than sublet the battery life if I keep data off. I'm almost always in a wifi area so it doesn't affect me.
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It looks like your screen is almost never on. Thats what always consumes the most power on my phones, by far.
polish_pat said:
having wifi on all the time does not drain the battery...i have wifi on 24/7 an can easily get 36 hours
30% left and ive got 26 hours runninh wifi on
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This is mine....
SkyIce 7.3 Speed
This is my usage when i dont touch LTE

Horrible battery drain on LTE

I got my AT&T One X a month ago. The battery life has been pretty good, considering the specs of the phone, but I've never been in an LTE area until last night. I'm running AT&T/HTC's stock Android 4.1.1 firmware, and I typically get through the day with no problem and have some battery to spare at the end of the day in an HSPA area.
However, last night, I was in an LTE area for the night, and I noticed that the battery drain was outrageous. As soon as I got into the LTE area, the phone started getting really warm around the camera and I noticed the battery drain was about 10% per hour. I never let mobile data on all the time, I switch it on when I need to use it, and then turn it off when I'm not using it. I was using the phone a bit more heavily than normal, but it shouldn't have been enough to kill 80% of the battery in 8 hours.
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On the graph above, I entered the LTE area shortly after 5PM, and you can see where the graph starts dropping quicker, and then around midnight when I left the LTE area, it levels out again. Also, the first break in the mobile network signal was a reboot. Prior to that, the phone was warm all the time and the battery was draining quickly. After the reboot, the phone would only get warm when I was actually using mobile data, but the battery drain was still happening.
I went ahead and did a factory reset on the phone afterward, to see if there may have been a rogue app or setting causing the problem, but I'm not sure the next time I'll get to an LTE area to check it out, but I'll try to report back soon.
Has anyone else had this happen or know of a cause or solution? Thanks.
beanboy89 said:
I got my AT&T One X a month ago. The battery life has been pretty good, considering the specs of the phone, but I've never been in an LTE area until last night. I'm running AT&T/HTC's stock Android 4.1.1 firmware, and I typically get through the day with no problem and have some battery to spare at the end of the day in an HSPA area.
However, last night, I was in an LTE area for the night, and I noticed that the battery drain was outrageous. As soon as I got into the LTE area, the phone started getting really warm around the camera and I noticed the battery drain was about 10% per hour. I never let mobile data on all the time, I switch it on when I need to use it, and then turn it off when I'm not using it. I was using the phone a bit more heavily than normal, but it shouldn't have been enough to kill 80% of the battery in 8 hours.
On the graph above, I entered the LTE area shortly after 5PM, and you can see where the graph starts dropping quicker, and then around midnight when I left the LTE area, it levels out again. Also, the first break in the mobile network signal was a reboot. Prior to that, the phone was warm all the time and the battery was draining quickly. After the reboot, the phone would only get warm when I was actually using mobile data, but the battery drain was still happening.
I went ahead and did a factory reset on the phone afterward, to see if there may have been a rogue app or setting causing the problem, but I'm not sure the next time I'll get to an LTE area to check it out, but I'll try to report back soon.
Has anyone else had this happen or know of a cause or solution? Thanks.
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I dont have LTE with my provider but from what ive read this is normal.
As with many battery issues, you will probably hear vastly different experiences from different people. I've had LTE in my area the entire 1+ years I've had this phone (area had LTE since before the phone was released). I seem to have good coverage in the area, and can often get 48 hours (or a little more) on a single charge with light usage. Drain while idle on LTE for me does not seem significantly different then when in a non-LTE area, or on WiFi (around 2% per hour).
Its possible you were in a fringe LTE area, which would drain the battery much more quickly than an area with good reception. But I would not describe the type of drain you experienced as "normal". Or at least not what is intended or expected.
Since the phone is stock, there isn't a lot that can be done. The stock AT&T ROM is locked out from turning off LTE (which would be one workaround). Flashing a different ROM or radio might help. But those require root, bootloader unlock, etc.
I was in Baltimore, which has had a fairly mature AT&T LTE network for about a year, IIRC. I was in downtown most of the time, which shouldn't be a fringe area. At one point, I did a speed test, and got 17 mbps down and 9 mbps up. I know there's not much that I can do about disabling LTE using the stock ROM, but I shouldn't have to use a custom ROM; this type of drain shouldn't be happening.
I'm pretty sure you can switch LTE off on a stock ROM. Enter the following code on your dialer keypad:
*#*#4636#*#*
A menu will appear, select phone information.
Then scroll down and you'll find a drop-down menu. Open it and select gsm auto prl or wcmda preferred.
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timmaaa said:
I'm pretty sure you can switch LTE off on a stock ROM. Enter the following code on your dialer keypad:
*#*#4636#*#*
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You can, but it won't stick, since AT&T has this setting 'locked'. It will reset itself to LTE on at the next reboot.
I'm just curious but did you have the Power Save turned on because when I use Power Save and I live exclusively in an LTE area it would last me about 48 hours on a single charge give or take a little. One thing you can consider is checking to see if you have applications running in the background trying to use your data even though you may have it turned off.
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I'm just curious but did you have the Power Save turned on because when I use Power Save and I live exclusively in an LTE area it would last me about 48 hours on a single charge give or take a little. One thing you can consider is checking to see if you have applications running in the background trying to use your data even though you may have it turned off.
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Power Saver was turned on. As far as apps running in the background. I try to stop that. I have auto-sync for all apps, except for my two Gmail accounts, turned off.
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Power Saver was turned on. As far as apps running in the background. I try to stop that. I have auto-sync for all apps, except for my two Gmail accounts, turned off.
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You mentioned you used the phone a bit more heavily but never mentioned screen on time. 8 hours doesn't seem all that bad to me if LTE + 3-4 hours screen on time.
Screen wasn't on that long. Take a look at the screenshot in my first post.
Also, in the meantime I've found an APN setting which is supposed to just use AT&Ts HSPA network and not LTE.
http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Discussion-and-Support/Disabling-4G-LTE/td-p/3210617
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Screen wasn't on that long. Take a look at the screenshot in my first post.
Also, in the meantime I've found an APN setting which is supposed to just use AT&Ts HSPA network and not LTE.
http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Discussion-and-Support/Disabling-4G-LTE/td-p/3210617
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Hows connection stability with that APN? I tried using it back in the day to circumvent at&t's LTE only setting and it was very unstable. A few minutes with the screen off would also turn all data off.
EliWay said:
Hows connection stability with that APN? I tried using it back in the day to circumvent at&t's LTE only setting and it was very unstable. A few minutes with the screen off would also turn all data off.
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I haven't had any problems with it yet. A few hours with data on the past few days, and I haven't noticed it drop. I'll keep you posted how it works the next few days.

[Q] MAXX High Battery Usage (High Android OS Usage)

Hi I have a just got a MAXX and updated to 4.4 without root. I found that my battery is not staying up as long as it should, it lasts for like 18 hours. The following are the details:
- Canadian user, Fido sim card, exceptionally bad reception (3 bars tops indoors) (My Phonto Q / Razr Maxx gets full bar when I plug in the same sim card)
- Screen On time at about 3-4 hours
- Rarely turn on data
- Rarely Game on Phone
- Non-rooted
- I keep wifi turned on, connected most of the time
- Use apex launcher instead of MotLauncher
- Active Display, Touchless Control on
- Location Services are in "Battery Saving Mode" (Meaning the phone uses wifi and mobile network to estimate location)
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? If so, is there any solution? I see a similar thread made early but that is for the Ultra, and even the ultra got around 12 hours of discharge time
Edit: So far based on doogald 's reply, I suspect its the poor reception thats draining the battery, the following photos shows the reception differences across different devices with the same sim card
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Razr Maxx XT910 with the same fido sim card (ICS Stock with root)
Razr Maxx XT910 with the same fido sim card (KK CM11 with root)
Photon Q XT897 with the same fido sim card (JB CarbonRom with Root)
How long have you had 4.4? When I have updated or changed ROMs, it seems that it takes the software a little bit of time to catch up getting to know the battery.
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That's a little more drain than I would see for the same screen on time. Bad signal will definitely drain a battery faster. Forget about stupid bars - what is your signal in dBm? (Settings->more (under Wireless & Networks)->Mobile networks->Network type & strength. Also in settings->about phone->Status->Network type & strength).
The number will be negative. For GSM or CDMA, anything less than (more negative) than -100 dBm is a bad signal and the phone will amp up the antenna to try to pull in signal.
Based on your battery screenshots, though, it's probably not bad signal - I think "cell standby" would be a higher drain if that was the case.
Khanusma said:
How long have you had 4.4? When I have updated or changed ROMs, it seems that it takes the software a little bit of time to catch up getting to know the battery.
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doogald said:
That's a little more drain than I would see for the same screen on time. Bad signal will definitely drain a battery faster. Forget about stupid bars - what is your signal in dBm? (Settings->more (under Wireless & Networks)->Mobile networks->Network type & strength. Also in settings->about phone->Status->Network type & strength).
The number will be negative. For GSM or CDMA, anything less than (more negative) than -100 dBm is a bad signal and the phone will amp up the antenna to try to pull in signal.
Based on your battery screenshots, though, it's probably not bad signal - I think "cell standby" would be a higher drain if that was the case.
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I have had 4.4 for exactly 10 days now, i think everything should be settled by now
My signal is around -97dBm, and it jumps from that to No Service. I dont understand why this phone have such terrible reception though. I had two other phones try the same sim card and they have excellent reception.
BlueEditionE6 said:
I have had 4.4 for exactly 10 days now, i think everything should be settled by now
My signal is around -97dBm, and it jumps from that to No Service. I dont understand why this phone have such terrible reception though. I had two other phones try the same sim card and they have excellent reception.
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Got ya. I have been having poor Bluetooth connectivity. People have been complaining that can't hear me well. Phone reception send to be poorer as well .
Can't comment on battery.
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Khanusma said:
Got ya. I have been having poor Bluetooth connectivity. People have been complaining that can't hear me well. Phone reception send to be poorer as well .
Can't comment on battery.
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So will you say the phone have a bad reception in general? Or is it just because I am not with Verizon and its being s b**** to me ?
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BlueEditionE6 said:
So will you say the phone have a bad reception in general? Or is it just because I am not with Verizon and its being s b**** to me ?
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I couldn't say I had problems before.
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Question- are you rooted and using xposed framework? Things that heavily mod the stock system, like GravityBox or Xblast can easily have that affect. Even smaller things like the smooth progress bar can hit it. The more changes, the harder the system has to work to keep up
livinitwarrior said:
Question- are you rooted and using xposed framework? Things that heavily mod the stock system, like GravityBox or Xblast can easily have that affect. Even smaller things like the smooth progress bar can hit it. The more changes, the harder the system has to work to keep up
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as stated, this device is not rooted
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as stated, this device is not rooted
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whoops. missed that, sorry
Any change in this? Have the same thing on my Mini, haven't been able to figure it out yet.
jjlangen said:
Any change in this? Have the same thing on my Mini, haven't been able to figure it out yet.
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nothing happening yet~
I have terrible reception at home and work and am getting 7 or so hours of screen on time. Constant switching between 4g/3g and sometimes to 2g.
I'd suggest trying a program like betterbatterystats or similar to see if there's a wakelock keeping the phone from going into deep sleep mode (processor shuts off) when the display is turned off. Also cpuspy will show you if it's deep sleeping. It won't deep sleep while charging btw, this is normal.
For me the problem was the Facebook app. I disabled it and not only did my battery life significantly improve, but so did my productivity Info about wakelocks, if you're interested - http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html
Pain in the butt but there's always the factory reset option too.
hawkswind1 said:
I have terrible reception at home and work and am getting 7 or so hours of screen on time. Constant switching between 4g/3g and sometimes to 2g.
I'd suggest trying a program like betterbatterystats or similar to see if there's a wakelock keeping the phone from going into deep sleep mode (processor shuts off) when the display is turned off. Also cpuspy will show you if it's deep sleeping. It won't deep sleep while charging btw, this is normal.
For me the problem was the Facebook app. I disabled it and not only did my battery life significantly improve, but so did my productivity Info about wakelocks, if you're interested - http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html
Pain in the butt but there's always the factory reset option too.
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PowerMangerService.wakeLocks and radio-interface is keeping the kernel awake??/
Having the same issue. 4.4% per hour
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PowerMangerService.wakeLocks and radio-interface is keeping the kernel awake??/
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PowerManagerService.wakelocks is the sum of all your partial wake locks, so you need to look at your partial wakelocks
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PowerManagerService.wakelocks is the sum of all your partial wake locks, so you need to look at your partial wakelocks
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Not sure why this worked, but it did. At least through one day of testing
I ready elsewhere on Droid X forum someplace I think about draining the battery completely until your phone shuts off and then recharging. It's supposed to re-calibrate it. Sounds sketchy at best I know, but it seems to have worked!
I did this with my ultra followed by charging to full and did a factory reset. My phone seems to be normal again.
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BladeRunner said:
PowerManagerService.wakelocks is the sum of all your partial wake locks, so you need to look at your partial wakelocks
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It doesnt show my partial wakelocks, when i select that option, nothing shows up
TerrorTodd said:
Not sure why this worked, but it did. At least through one day of testing
I ready elsewhere on Droid X forum someplace I think about draining the battery completely until your phone shuts off and then recharging. It's supposed to re-calibrate it. Sounds sketchy at best I know, but it seems to have worked!
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i tried that, doesnt help
BlueEditionE6 said:
It doesnt show my partial wakelocks, when i select that option, nothing shows up
i tried that, doesnt help
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try using the wakelock detector" app

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