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sabianadmin said:
Hey all, im thinking of putting together a sense rom (minus the bloat obv) based on CM5, has this already been done? is there any problems you guys can see with doing it?
thanks for the advice
All the best
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-Wrong section
-There are plenty of Sense-like Themes for cm5. Add Facebook, Twitter, Some Sense clock widget, Skinned ADW.Launcher/Launcher pro, et voilà.
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It's very hard, if not impossible, to implent the Sense apps into AOSP ROMs.
Its not the wrong section im trying to gauge if i should bother developing a custom android rom. And that didn't really answer my question. Is it possible to bring sense and all it required apks and libraries over to CM5, if this is the wrong section could a moderator move me to the right one
Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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It takes waaay too much work, believe me.
Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
sabianadmin said:
Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
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Great Idea! how about GSense
You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
maxisma said:
You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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domex2k said:
How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Im using bits of the android 2.1 update for the european HTC Hero but if i get good reason i will be using bits of other roms (e.g droid eris which is a hero effectively)
sabianadmin said:
Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
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Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
domex2k said:
Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
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Oh right! yep that will be there
I have always liked sense, but have never liked how 'sluggish' it runs in comparison to other android roms since it comes with some extra baggage i.e. Rosie. But if you can make this happen, I'll be quite excited and will probably try it out..so...all the best!
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Oh right! yep that will be there
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Bookmarking this thread for sure
UberMario said:
Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Does Camera work on KingKlick's DroidEris2G1?
allow me to comment: if you take cm5 and replace the apk's and frameworks, you will run into several problems:
1. it'll be too big for g1, without using mtd mods...
2. you'll essentially end up pushing everything from a sense rom into different folders (bin, lib, etc) in order to even get stuff working
3. it'll basically turn into a sense rom with a cm kernel... which already exists. LOL
4. you'll have to learn smali, which is confusing as you-know-what
HAVE FUN!!!
Now that I'm rooted (thanks to all those involved), I want to get all decked out with a custom kernel/rom/all that. I can see that there are quite a few roms available. I don't suppose there's really anything that compares and contrasts them? Or an easy way to find them all? I tried searching for [rom] and it wasn't able to handle that.
I'm really digging Sense, and I recall seeing that there was a rom (maybe more than one?) that had Sense 3.0?
All the ROMs are listed in the development section.. Take a look at this thread for some good ROM recommendations http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256017
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flu13 said:
Now that I'm rooted (thanks to all those involved), I want to get all decked out with a custom kernel/rom/all that. I can see that there are quite a few roms available. I don't suppose there's really anything that compares and contrasts them? Or an easy way to find them all? I tried searching for [rom] and it wasn't able to handle that.
I'm really digging Sense, and I recall seeing that there was a rom (maybe more than one?) that had Sense 3.0?
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We do have a full pure 3.0 ROM that was a wip but the dev got like hella busy working 80+ hours a week so it took a backseat so he could relax, but there are also modded sense 2.1 ROMS depending on what your looking for the 2 we have both have Sense 3 elements but are not full sense 3, one of them is mikshifted-g(some sense 3 elements) and the other is supreme sense (3.0 rosie and widgets)both of which have their own look and feel but are the same base ROM
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strapped365 said:
one of them is mikshifted-g(some sense 3 elements) and the other is supreme sense (3.0 rosie and widgets)both of which have their own look and feel
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Any chance you could expand on this? I don't even know what's different in Sense 3, I just know that 3 is higher than 2.1, so it has to be better, right? I'm going to try to find threads on these roms and read up on them, but any comparison you can give from actual experience or working knowledge would be appreciated.
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Any chance you could expand on this? I don't even know what's different in Sense 3, I just know that 3 is higher than 2.1, so it has to be better, right? I'm going to try to find threads on these roms and read up on them, but any comparison you can give from actual experience or working knowledge would be appreciated.
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MikshiftedG- has Sense 3.0 messaging,lockcreen,the newest market that let's you plus1 things, has lots of extra quick settings,music widget if there are more ill be back to edit this post
Supreme Sense- is based off mikshifted G so it has the same market and all the quick settings and has Sense 3.0 messaging, weather,music,twitter3d,friendstream3d,lockscreen,Rosie(carousel),people widget 3d, message widget 3d, bookmark3d,htcclock3dwidget, if there is more i remember ill edit this too its early and i was up late making some changes lol anyways mikshifted/supreme offer up the most features out of our sense based ROMS, and they have better perfomance because they are odex and not deodex
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Fantastic, thanks.
Hi
I would like to know if anyone has succesfully ported the sense 3.5 locations app to a sense 3.0 rom, since i think it is way better.
I have tried myself to copy htclaputa.apk, htclaputainstaller.apk, htclocationpicker.apk and htclocationservice.apk and setting permissions, but with no luck.
Omg why would you even try? That app is so lame it makes me tear
So lame for U but maybe not for Him. You're not helping...
Well,
HTC gave me free unlimitted navigation in all of scandinavia, so i thought i might aswell use it. The one for sense 3.0 suck though, so i would like to have the leaked 3.5 version.
im new to the mt4g slide, but i used to own a regular mt4g and there were plenty of fully functional/stable, fast sense 3.5 roms available for it. is there any for the mt4gs? ive looked thru the dev section and found a couple blind ports but not much feedback on them. sense 3.5 is waaaaaay faster/smoother than 3.0, and if i imagine it would be butter smooth on a device like ours with its hardware specs.
U gonna make us one?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
U gonna make us one?
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if i knew the first thing about how to i surely would, but im no dev. just an idiot with a smartphone
What makes sense 3.5 different from sense 3.0?
If a clear, factual answer can be given to that question, a sense 3.5 rom can be made.
This is my first smart phone. Sense 3.0 is all I know as far as sense goes.
What's different?
From time to time people ask this question, and I ask this one in turn. To date no one has been able to tell me, so...?
If you can't articulate what you want I can't give it to you, and neither can anyone else.
You request a sense 3.5 rom.
I request a sense 3.5 definition.
Help me and I can help you.
As far as the difference for me, Sense 3.5 I feel the biggest difference is Bliss launcher. It just looks a lot cleaner in my opinion.
Blue6IX said:
What makes sense 3.5 different from sense 3.0?
If a clear, factual answer can be given to that question, a sense 3.5 rom can be made.
This is my first smart phone. Sense 3.0 is all I know as far as sense goes.
What's different?
From time to time people ask this question, and I ask this one in turn. To date no one has been able to tell me, so...?
If you can't articulate what you want I can't give it to you, and neither can anyone else.
You request a sense 3.5 rom.
I request a sense 3.5 definition.
Help me and I can help you.
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from what ive read it was made to run on single core phones, therefore running it on dual core makes it that much faster. also the UI is a bit more polished, has a few more widgets, and has the fancy rotation animations. from my experience with the MT4g it was far smoother than 3.0 roms i had tried. so i guess the definition would be its an upgrade from 3.0
Crkr said:
As far as the difference for me, Sense 3.5 I feel the biggest difference is Bliss launcher. It just looks a lot cleaner in my opinion.
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i never really dug the bliss launcher. most 3.5 roms have tweaks built in where you can chose between the bliss an stock rosie
This thread is in Development because I mean to share a development idea that I had with the devs here. I don't have the knowledge or skill to work this out myself, so I'm hoping to start a discussion among devs who can do something with it.
Right. At the moment, Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROMs are all using the Sense 3.0 lockscreen - but it's still an old version of that lockscreen, ported in the early days of the HTC Sensation (by seo if I'm correct). Resizing for the lower resolution on the Desire was necessary, and you can see that clearly on the lockscreen - icons and text appear slightly "squashed", and performance is slightly choppy as well.
However, on full Sense 3.5 ROMs ported from the HTC Runnymede, the lockscreen is graphically flawless, and it's lagfree as well, probably largely due to the fact that no resizing is involved. It's just a much better lockscreen than the Sense 3.0 one found in Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids.
My question/idea is: could this properly sized Sense 3.5 lockscreen be ported from Bliss or Runnymede ROMs to work in Sense 2.1 ROMs?
I'm hoping for this to be a place for devs to discuss and hopefully work out this idea. Mods, if you still think this is in the wrong place, feel free to move.
Thanks in advance!
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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rzgomba said:
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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I suggest Rsk or Seb's ROM
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Both of which are based on Runnymede RUUs. Keep in mind that the question is to port the lockscreen from Sense 3.5, not from a single specific Sense 3.5 ROM - so the base will come from HTC, not from any custom ROM developer here.
In other words, this question is pretty much irrelevant.
Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
ZeGuitarist said:
Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
lenny_kano said:
Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
ZeGuitarist said:
Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Ok no probs. I have enough pms for porting and mods, a thread would be a good change
No promises, but ill do my best to have it done this weekend. It's not that I'm anti-sense, but I've always been on my miui builds (for at least 8 of the 11 months I've owned an android phone). Fingers crossed .
Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
His signature says he is using the Alex-V's ROM.
I haven't tried Alex-V 1.8 ROM yet, but i use InsertCoin for years now. I'd love to see it in InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well. I'll stay tuned.
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Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
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I'm on Alex-V 1.8 for cm7r2 now, the link is in my sig. I don't think there's much of a difference with other 2.1/3.0 ROMs (like InsertCoin), if any difference at all - as far as the lockscreen goes, that is. They all use different implementations of a2sd (standard, data++, ad2sdx, even int2sd), which probably needs looking into.
And take your time. It's already immensely appreciated that you're willing to look into it in the first place.
This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
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Possibly, but in any case we'd still lose the graphical imperfections of the old, resized Sense 3.0 lockscreen. In Sense 3.5, the ring is a lot bigger too - it sticks out further from the bottom, making it easier to grab and unlock. Even just graphically, it's better than the current lockscreen.
Also, nobody's ever tried this, so we'd never know if it'll be faster.
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But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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I concur. Thanks for your input!
Trust me, I know what needs doing
How hard it is to do is the question, porting apks between frameworks is fairly simple unless they are massively different and the apk is hugely dependent on it.
I had miui v4 themes working on evervolv by hand porting the code, and ported apks between frameworks before so have a fair idea what needs doing .
This thread will turn out to be highly educational then. Nice
Just fyi, due to a couple of things taking longer than I thought yesterday, will most likely get around to looking at this on Wednesday. I'll post when I have anything useful.
Alright. No worries, I've got plenty of revision to kill time until then.
Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Not without modifying it, and no, I have no plans to look at anything else sense related, sorry.
Please stay on topic.
Been trying to get Alex-Vs rom since yesterday, and download is stuck at 98% and has been disconnecting constantly. PITA and I'm tired so hopefully it'll finish tomorrow and I can have a look.