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Hi,
in the old (and current I believe as well) Nokia phone - and most other pure mobile phones for that matter - you can dial a "p", typically by holding down the "*" for a while. The "p" makes the phone wait a little while before continuing to dial the rest of the number.
I need this feature!!!
I am using some prepaid phone cards for which this feature is really necessary.
So, anyone have a clue how to get a similar functionality on WM5? The "p" certainly does not work ...
Thanks in advance - Andy
if you're dialing live, you can dial only the connection number then open the keypad to dial the rest of the keycode manually. If you want to automate it, create a contact with the full number and you can enter in "p" there.
I have a contact for my voicemail which dials the voicemail and waits and the pin + #. this works great with voicecommand cause all I have to do is say "call voicemail" and it'll dial, enter in the password automatically and I don't have to touch the phone at all...
Interesting ... I did migrate all my number from my previous phone, where i had the "p" included in the number. The numbers also seemingly came up correctly on the PPC phone. However, when I tried to dial the number, it would not take the complete number with the "p" - I cannot remember exactly what it did, but it did not dial the whole thing. Thats why I thought/ hoped that there is another way. I guess, after what you are saying, I should give it another try ...
And yes, the application that you are describing is very similar to what I want to use. There is a prepaid international call provider, which has a local dial-in number and lets me call abroad for very little money. I call the local number - the service provider recognizes my account by the incoming phone number of my mobile - and then I dial the destination number. For the recognising part however, it is needed that the phone waits a little before it continues to dial the destination number.
Alright, alright .... works! Thx for the assurance! Tried it again and it just takes a lot longer - the pause is longer - than it used to be on my Nokia. Also, I do not hear the dialing tones after the "p" anymore, which probably put me off before.
Thanks! Thread closed
Try replacing the "p" with a "," . It will pause for a few seconds once the other side picks up the phone.
Hey guys,
I just started using Treo 750. I love it so far except few things I miss about my old Nokia. Earlier I used to dial a calling card number and then just choose the contact's destination number by selecting "Touch Tone" option from the menu while in call, and it would touch tone that number for me and I was connected. Now, WM5 phone app doesnt seem to be able to do it, and I have to write down the contact's number on a paper first before dialing calling card access number.
Also, I know a comma can be used a 1-second soft pause, but any possible way to add hard pauses in the phone number like traditional cell phones can do... Its cumbersome carrying calling card's PIN code in pocket, and then entering it after dialing calling card number and then punching in destination number from a paper again... its frustrating...
I tried to look up a lot of dialers and apps, but none was a helpful find. Could someone suggest any way out.
anybody???
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I am using a product called MagiCall which has the calling card feature as well as calls filtering and SMS filtering.
I think it can help you.
what i want to do is to automatically add a specific prefix to all outgoing calls made, for the purpose of saving calling fee in my area. for instance, i want to add 1234 before any call number, whether it's from call history, contact, or any other sources.
im a .net developer, but i didn't find any managed library that can intercept a phone call and make modifications to it. i also explored the TAPI a little bit, it appeared to be able to do the work for me. but the problem is i've no idea of c++ programming.
so is there anybody here who can help me on how to wrap these native methods into managed counterparts?
any/other clue would be appreciated.
Take a look at Google Voice. Perhaps that might be simpler to use to save money on calls?
Hi,
try with Settings > Connections > Advanced > Dialing Rules
I think you can setup a profile that fit your needs.
Bye
arblueboy said:
Hi,
try with Settings > Connections > Advanced > Dialing Rules
I think you can setup a profile that fit your needs.
Bye
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doesn't work. and i don't think that setting is for phone connection.
actually i've changed my idea to developing a separate application to access call history and contact. and then when call button is clicked, use the managed Phone class to dial out. this still needs native dll as to accessing the call history. but this seems to be more practical than intercepting outgoing calls.
iDialer
http://supware.net/iDialer/
Not sure if this is exactly what you want, but I use this with my Googlevoice configuration to make free calls. Here's how I have it set up:
1. Installed iDialer
2. Installed configuration CAB that I built through the iDialer website
3. Click the phone icon within iDialer to set it to "Ask" which service to use.
4. I also have installed iContact, so I then go the contact I want through iContact.
5. I select the number for that contact that I want to dial (Home, Work, Mobile, etc.)
6. My phone brings up a pop-up asking:
-Alltel
-GoogleVoice Internet
-GoogleVoice CallingCard
7. I select what I want and it dials that instantly.
This works VERY well for me, and I am able to use my callingcard for out-of-network calls, and Alltel for quick in-network calls.
Hope this info helps!
jakewill
thanks for the details.
i have 2 queries b4 actually trying it:
1. does the phone call get available via the network? if yes, then it's not applicable for me, cos i'm using gprs which is slow if i want to transfer voice.
2. i checked out google voice and found that it only supports numbers in US. true?
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Hi All! This is my first guide/thread so be kind. I was looking for a way to conserve money... I am on boost prepaid and it gets quite expensive when talking, or sending a few txt messages. I found there is a way to activate unconditional call forwarding which, now unfortunately does use up minutes, once activated (*72XXXXXXXXXX for boost) calls are automatically forwarded to a google voice number, and can be deactivated (*720 on boost). There maybe many ways to call forward depending on your carrier; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_forwarding... EDIT: now boost is charging me for forwarded calls, so I just call back with groove... the automation is still helpful though:
I think I have finally found the easiest most reliable method; you will need to enter your forwarding codes if you aren't on boost:
Needed items:
Android phone on carrier of your choice. Or you can use a tablet for wifi only calls, if your tablet doesn't have a mic, then try using a bluetooth headset.. maybe even a usb dongle if there is no bluetooth, but usb is available
Google voice (from market), and a google voice account (to send free SMS messages)
Groove IP ($4.99 one time in market to make/receive free voip calls)
LLama app (free, but we need this test version: http://www.mediafire.com/?qp5dfbqsc8ci88g) This version of LLama includes permission to dial #s, this is needed for forwarding #s, so don't use the one from the market.
In theory, groove IP can work over 3g, but in reality it doesn't for me. A short call to someone on the same cell network works at times, but calling anywhere else results in a choppy frustrating mess... therefore this guide assumes groove only works for you over wifi.
1) Get your apps installed.
2) Open Google voice, login, choose never use google voice to make calls, I had to skip the part where it asks you to setup voicemail because this requires conditional call forwarding (rings phone first then forwards to voicemail) which my carrier doesn't support. Your miles may vary here, but I recommend skipping this for now. When responding to, or sending text messages check the box 'always perform this action' and choose voice. Ask the people who txt you to now txt your google voice number. They will figure this out if you always respond to their messages via the google voice app.
3) Connect to wifi, run Groove IP, and login. Groove can be tricky to get working perfectly, but with some tweaks it works great for me. Here's my grooveIP settings:
uncheck 3g/4g calling, check accept calls on answer, under native dialer options-built in dialer preference- choose wifi only, under native dialer-exclusion numbers, enter your forwarding and 'disable' forwarding codes (dependent on carrier) separated by commas. Under audio/echo settings lower your mic gain, mine is set at -8, but yours may be different. Under miscellaneous check autostart and enter your default area code for easier dialing. Now verify calls are working by dialing the google voice test number: 9093900003. This will echo back everything you say so listen for echos/distortion, then make adjustments necessary. Use the 'troubleshooting' section under settings as a last resort, as you *should* be able to get everything working better if it is working at all at this point... tested on an evo 3d and an evo shift.
4) Run the LLama app. This will take the longest to configure of the three, click through the app and read the little one time dialogue boxes. This is a great free app, so if you find it useful, please donate some money to the developer. The configuration here may take some tweaking depending on your personal lifestyle, but I will share my current configuration(s):
a) Under Areas, I have Home, work, etc, anyplace there is a reliable wifi connection. Locations are based on cell towers and will need to be 'learned'
b) Under events: I deleted all the defaults and created:
* 'Near Hotspot': At 'locations' home, work, friends, family, school, etc (fill these in with your wifi enabled locations), delay for 4 minutes cancelling delayed if false, then turn on wifi.
* 'Wifi connected' When wifi is connected to <Any Wifi network> run Groove IP, run shortcut 'Forward' (direct dial to contact 'Forward' - *72XXXXXXXXXX), queue another event; wait one minute, disable mobile data (optional)
* 'Wifi Disconnected' When the phone is disconnected from <Any Wifi network> delay for one minute and enable mobile data
(disabling/enabling mobile data are optional but help conserve battery)
* 'Away from hotspot': When the phone disconnects from <Any Wifi network> delay for 2 minutes cancelling delayed if false, then disable Wifi, run a direct dial shortcut 'unforward' (*720), then run an android intent com.gvoip.STOP_GROOVE_IP. For this intent, choose custom, broadcast for the intent send mode, the package name is 'com.gvoip', and the action is 'com.gvoip.STOP_GROOVE_IP', leave everything else blank. This is needed because simply killing groove IP will result in it restarting automatically.
c) leave profile tab alone for now
d) troubleshoot to work out glitches... you can use the little clock icon in LLama to see history and what triggered last events
This does take some initial configuration/tweaking, but once everything works, it's just awesome. Now whenever I'm nearby a wifi hotspot I don't have to pay for minutes when making calls, and SMS through google voice is free always. Best of all, everything happens automatically so you don't forget about connecting wifi, forwarding/unforwarding, or starting/stopping groove IP. Remember to hit thanks if this helps you lower your phone bill.
**Edit**
This guide may still be helpful for a quite a few people, but unfortunately Boost is now using minutes on forwarded inbound connections... which sucks, because they weren't for about 2 months, and nothing changed. What you can do though, is leave out the forwarding aspect of this automation sequence. When people call, just don't answer and call them back right away via groove, or sms from google voice, this way you will still be able to conserve your minutes while on wifi. You still must use minutes both calling and receiving a call while driving or in motion, and google voice is always free for sms.
Terrific guide. Very detailed, thanks button pressed. Quickie question: If I begin a call on WiFi, but wander away from the hotspot coverage, it will drop correct?
Happy Thanksgiving!
Hey KidFromBigD, like your logo, I am a fellow boilermaker
To answer your question: you would drop the call if you were to disconnect from wifi or leave the area. This is why it's important to stay in range of the wifi hotspot, make sure there is no interference by doing a scan initially and setting your router to a channel not occupied. Also make sure transmission or your other torrent client isn't running full throttle, otherwise voice will sound all garbled. In terms of QoS voip should be prioritized, but I don't think all home routers treat groove with priority.
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Hey KidFromBigD, like your logo, I am a fellow boilermaker
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Wow, since I installed llama, I've been obsessed with making it work for me. Truly haven't even scratched the surface of what this thing can do. Of course your original post described how to make VoIP calls with Groove, but running out of minutes hasn't been a problem for me. This is why I like the forums: You never know what you'll see and how you can improve your smartphone experience with a simple app.
PS: Earned my BSEE from Purdue in 1992.
You could port your number to google voice to get around forwarding
I am using GrooveIP and Llama as well, I ported my number to google voice and i have all calls go to 'chat'. when I am on Wifi, I will receive calls, but when I have data turned off (when I am not on wifi I usually do) it goes to voice mail. The fact that Google Voice is involved is transparent to people calling me. I don't think you have anything to lose if you port your number to google voice, because then it can follow you across any carrier, sim card or phone.
If I am expecting an important call I will forward to both my mobile number (sim card number) and to chat. So I can pick up if I need to.
This is not perfect but it saves a ton of minutes.
I would like to have llama change my GV to forward calls only to chat during wifi connections, and then forward to my mobile number when not on wifi. anyone know how to do this?
Thanks for the tutorial
Hey guys,
About Groove IP. How on Earth do I program it so that calls to my TMO number will automatically be forwarded to my Google Voice number? I can make outbound calls using Groove IP with no issues as I just access and call via the app directly. But it seems to me incoming calls just go straight to my phone. I don't use minutes too often, but I'd like to save my monthly 100 minute allotment if possible!
In case anyone asks, yes, I have call-forwarding set to Google Chat and I've unchecked the box next to my cell #.
Check your individual contacts and group settings
If I am reading your post correctly, it sounds like you pretty much have the basic settings correct. Groove IP works via Google Talk so it is important that you have added Google Talk as a "phone" on the "Phones" tab in the Google Voice setup via their web interface. It sounds like you have done that though. Since you do not want calls to your GV number to forward to your cell phones number, you need to ensure that you have unchecked the box next to your cell phone entry on that same "Phones" setup page (if you leave the receive text messages and voicemail notification boxes checked, those two things will still work even if you have unchecked the phone for voice forwarding). Once again, it sounds like you have already done this.
I have found that if both Google Talk and the cell phone number are set to forward, the cell phone number will always start ringing before Groove IP starts ringing. Groove IP usually starts ringing around the 3rd ring of the cell phone number. If you are answering your phone on the first few rings, you may not know if Groove IP is really ringings through or not. This does not solve the problem of why your cell phone number is ringing if you have forwarding to it shut off but you might want to do a test call to your GV number and let it ring while watching the display on your cell. If it is ringing through to your cell's number, a screen displaying the caller ID and options to answer the stock dialer should appear. If Groove IP is properly forwaarding to Goole Talk, the the Groove IP screen should come up over the stock caller ID screen somewhere around or after the third ring of your actual cell phone number. If Groove IP does eventually forward through then you know that the Google Talk forwarding is working and you then just need to solve the cell phone forwarding issue. If Groove IP does not forward via Google Talk, there are several things you need to check.....
Groove IP works by default over WiFi but can also use your 3G/4G network if you are not connected to WiFi. That ability is not enabled by default though so you need to go into the Groove IP settings on your cell phone and check the box allowing 3G/4G calling. This sounds like a pretty obvious thing to setup properly but you would be surprised at just how many people overlook that setting.
If that is setup properly and Groove IP is still not ringing through to your cell phone via Google Talk, then you will need to go into the Google Voice settings via the Google Voice webpage and check the settings for your "Groups" (if you have contacts assigned to groups). All of the groups have individual settings for what phones the contacts assigned to that group will ring on. These settings will override the settings on the "Phones" tab in the main settings panel. If Google Talk is not checked for you groups, that will be a problem. You may also want to uncheck your cell phone in the group settings.
You will also need to check how you have each contact setup. If you click on the checkbox next to a contacts name the far right panel will display the information entered for that contact. At the bottom of this there is a link you can click to "Edit Google Voice Settings". Clicking that link will take you to the individual GV settings for that contact. If you have your contacts assigned to groups, then ideally each contact within this individual settings display should be getting their settings from their group assignment. There is a setting at the very top of this page Where you can choose the group you want to use the settings from for that contact. The individual contact will then get thier settings from the group. This can be overriden though and the individual contact settings will override both the group and main settings in Google Voice. Under these individual contact settings there is an area where it lists what to do "When this contact calls you" If it is using the group settings to determine what phones to forward to it will say "Use "Group Name" Phones" in this area and there will also be an edit link next to that. If you click on the edit link, individual entries and checkboxes for the phones you have setup in GV will appear. If the contact(s) has not been assigned to a group then these entries and the boxes to chose them will be there by default. If you do have groups assigned, chosing these individual entries will override the group settings for the phones to ring on. How you want to gio about setting all of that up is really up to you. Groups, no groups or groups for everyone but a few important contacts also have individual phone settings that override their group membership? It does not really matter as long as you have ensured that Google Talk is properly setup in these areas and that your cell phone is not set to forward to its number.
If all of this is properly setup then Groove IP should ring on your cell phone. If your cells number is still forwarding even though it is unchecked throughout the Google Voice settings, try temporarily deleting your cell phone for the Google Voice settings altoghther. Then go ahead and call your GV number and ensure the Google Talk is ringing through to Groove IP on your call. If all of this works, then go ahead and add your cell phone back to the list of phones in Google Voice. You will probably have to ensure the it is not checked by default in the group and contact settings after adding it back.
If your cell number is still ringing through and Groove IP is not ringing (and you are not attached to WiFi), look at your cell phone to see what type of data connection you currently have. If you are currently in a bad area for reception you may not have a 3G or 4G connection. It might say 1G in your notification area. Groove IP needs either WiFi, 3G or 4G and if you do not have any of those currently connected, Groove IP will not work. The Groove IP icon in the notifiaction area will be red instead of green if you do not have a good enough connection for Groove IP to work.
If all of that is good though and all of your settings have been verified as correct and it still does not work, then I have no idea what might be causing the problem. If that is the case you may want to send an e-mail to the Grrove IP developers to see if there are any known issues with your cell phone or if they have any other suggestions.
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I've e-mailed the developers. Someone on a different forum has told me that the answer is no, GrooveIP can only receive calls made to GV #s.
I mis-understood what you were asking. You can make your gv number ring on your cell but if your cell number is dialed you cannot make that number utilize GGroove IP. The trick is to only give out your gv number and to those people that already have your cell number, just tell them to utilize your gv number from now on.
The best solution I've found to save minutes using the same setup is to let the call go to voicemail and then call the person back...may not be the best, but it works.
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The best solution I've found to save minutes using the same setup is to let the call go to voicemail and then call the person back...may not be the best, but it works.
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Yeah, I've been doing that on and off. Only problem is both Groove IP and Skype (wasted $10 just to test the damn thing out!) are both spotty and too unpredictable.
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Yeah, I've been doing that on and off. Only problem is both Groove IP and Skype (wasted $10 just to test the damn thing out!) are both spotty and too unpredictable.
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i know this is an old forum
but what i also use is the Vonage app...when Groove is being crappy i let it go to voicemail and call back using the Vonage app...it works for me