Hello everyone,
I am interested in rooting my sensation but I want to stay on stock ROM and do not want to lose OTA updates.
So there are few questions (sorry if they have been asked before but I couldnt find any answers for them on the forum):
1. If I unlock the bootloader the official way that HTC provides via htcdev website, will I be able to root my phone given the phone will stay in S-ON status?
2. If I set S-OFF the way that is described here on the forums, will I be forced to install custom recoveries like clockwork to be able to get root?
I just want everything to stay stock but with root. Also OTAs are important to me.
Thank you,
Yash
yash08 said:
Hello everyone,
I am interested in rooting my sensation but I want to stay on stock ROM and do not want to lose OTA updates.
So there are few questions (sorry if they have been asked before but I couldnt find any answers for them on the forum):
1. If I unlock the bootloader the official way that HTC provides via htcdev website, will I be able to root my phone given the phone will stay in S-ON status?
2. If I set S-OFF the way that is described here on the forums, will I be forced to install custom recoveries like clockwork to be able to get root?
I just want everything to stay stock but with root. Also OTAs are important to me.
Thank you,
Yash
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- You can't root without S-OFF and a Custom Recovery..
- SuperUser binary files (root) are installed through the custom recovery using a signed su zip file..
- You can't install a custom recovery without S-OFF.
- You can't install OTA updates with a custom recovery.
BUT:
- You can S-OFF (I recommend using Revolutionary).
- Install the su zip file (to give you root access).
- Install your stock recovery again using Android Recovery Manager.
- Now you'll be able to install OTA updates and have root access at the same time. (If you delete any system application, OTA updates will fail though.)
1 Click Root for Sensation?
Is there an APK that will accomplish a 1 Click Root such as the one for the EVO?
'ONE CLICK ROOT for the EVO... a simple .apk file and run it'
asctony said:
Is there an APK that will accomplish a 1 Click Root such as the one for the EVO?
'ONE CLICK ROOT for the EVO... a simple .apk file and run it'
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No.
10 char
claudenegm said:
No.
10 char
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Thanks for your answer. Is there any reason why one cannot be developed? What would it be worth if someone developed one? I am sure there any many people who would be willing to pay for this. I for one, would be willing. any takers?
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Question: How comes that everyone tells people they have to downgrade their phones or install 3rd party hboots just to get root?
Maybe I'm missing something here or did just not read carefully enough but if you just want to install superuser and su or let's say gtalk 1.3 with video enabled then the temp root solution with adb and fre3vo is working quite well for this.
After that you still have your stock rom with all your settings. Ok you don't have a custom recovery and no rooted adb but if you really just wanted root access on stock rom this ist the cleanest and fastest way.
....until you reboot that is
jorgen2009 said:
....until you reboot that is
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nope! With installing su and superuser using the temp root method you will keep root access after reboots.
and you're sure your phone is S-ON? Weird... Anyway installing a custom recovery would (normally) be out of the question and thus installing custom firmware
Yes for custom firmware and recovery S-Off is still needed. I just wanted to stop people from removing important security features without thinking about it just because everyone says install this and remove that.
Hey uys, first off if this is a dupe, my bad. I did a bit of searching and couldnt find a topic that addressed this question specifically for the droid maxx DE.
I have my DE on 4.2.2, never took any updates. I have since unlocked the bootloader, and am rooted.
I wanted to know if rooting this phone with bootloader unlocked was as simple as installing supersu or superuser from the play store? I have heard that with an unlocked bootloader there is no additional steps needed (such as rock/pwn mymoto etc). Can anyone confirm that this is true?
Also does the same apply with KitKat? Am I simply able to root by installing supersu since my bootloader is unlocked?
Thank you and appreciate the help.
asuhoops8628 said:
Hey uys, first off if this is a dupe, my bad. I did a bit of searching and couldnt find a topic that addressed this question specifically for the droid maxx DE.
I have my DE on 4.2.2, never took any updates. I have since unlocked the bootloader, and am rooted.
I wanted to know if rooting this phone with bootloader unlocked was as simple as installing supersu or superuser from the play store? I have heard that with an unlocked bootloader there is no additional steps needed (such as rock/pwn mymoto etc). Can anyone confirm that this is true?
Also does the same apply with KitKat? Am I simply able to root by installing supersu since my bootloader is unlocked?
Thank you and appreciate the help.
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It IS simple but not as simple as that. After you unlock you need to flash TWRP, after that in the bootloader menu boot recovery then reboot from recovery and it will ask if you want to install Su, swype to to that and then you're rooted. The same method applies to KitKat.
BladeRunner said:
It IS simple but not as simple as that. After you unlock you need to flash TWRP, after that in the bootloader menu boot recovery then reboot from recovery and it will ask if you want to install Su, swype to to that and then you're rooted. The same method applies to KitKat.
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I take it same applies if using cwm or other recovery
asuhoops8628 said:
I take it same applies if using cwm or other recovery
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in theory, yes. I've had an issue with getting root to stick using CWM touch. If you use a recovery other than TWRP and it doesn't work you can always root using TWRP then flash your recovery of choice after.
What is correct CWM recovery for xt1080 ?
I am looking here:
http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and here:
http://goo.im/devs/cm
I dont see any of xt1080, or Droid Ultra/Maxx/Mini.
I have a Dev Ed xt1080
On philz site:
http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition
there is only "moto_msm8960" and no "moto_msm8960dt".
Help
the msm_8960dt is the one you need as i am using the same thing since i have the dev edition also
happysteve11c said:
the msm_8960dt is the one you need as i am using the same thing since i have the dev edition also
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Thank you for your reply. I know the "dt" version ROM is for this phone, but that isn't the question.
My question is: What is the correct CWM recovery for this phone? Where do I find it?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543400
http://skrilax.droid-developers.org/xt1080/open_recovery_209_25_11_2013.img
asuhoops8628 said:
Hey uys, first off if this is a dupe, my bad. I did a bit of searching and couldnt find a topic that addressed this question specifically for the droid maxx DE.
I have my DE on 4.2.2, never took any updates. I have since unlocked the bootloader, and am rooted.
I wanted to know if rooting this phone with bootloader unlocked was as simple as installing supersu or superuser from the play store? I have heard that with an unlocked bootloader there is no additional steps needed (such as rock/pwn mymoto etc). Can anyone confirm that this is true?
Also does the same apply with KitKat? Am I simply able to root by installing supersu since my bootloader is unlocked?
Thank you and appreciate the help.
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its pretty easy. see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645122
install TWRP and thats all.
Hi, Guys:
I am on S-ON, unrooted, android v4.4.4
I am not sure if I could install any ROM modified from stocked one using stock recovery?
I have to wait Sunshine v3.0 to s-off and install TWRP but I could not wait for it to flash some rom
Just want to have a try to see if this is possibie?
@rfresh
Your thread has been moved to it's correct location. Plese read here again (with emphasis on rule #15).
Thank you and good luck:good:
rfresh said:
Hi, Guys:
I am on S-ON, unrooted, android v4.4.4
I am not sure if I could install any ROM modified from stocked one using stock recovery?
I have to wait Sunshine v3.0 to s-off and install TWRP but I could not wait for it to flash some rom
Just want to have a try to see if this is possibie?
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I believe you could install a custom ROM with a stock recovery via sideload but I believe you have to be S-OFF first in order for that to work.
Anyone please feel free correct me if I'm wrong ?
The Stig 04 said:
I believe you could install a custom ROM with a stock recovery via sideload but I believe you have to be S-OFF first in order for that to work.
Anyone please feel free correct me if I'm wrong ?
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You cannot edit any software with s-on. As of right now, there isn't a way to obtain s-off on 4.4.4. There is a tool called sunshine that, when updated, will s-off and unlock the bootloader. But it will be a couple of months, so until then you are SOL.
Hi, I have an HTC One M8 on 5.0.1 and I have little knowledge with rooting. I want to root my phone because there are some apps I want to use that are only capable of being used if my phone is rooted. I've tried Kingo root and it doesn't work on my phone so I was wondering if someone can give me instructions and download links so I can root my phone. If you can it would be much appreciated, thanks.
Boltz111 said:
Hi, I have an HTC One M8 on 5.0.1 and I have little knowledge with rooting. I want to root my phone because there are some apps I want to use that are only capable of being used if my phone is rooted. I've tried Kingo root and it doesn't work on my phone so I was wondering if someone can give me instructions and download links so I can root my phone. If you can it would be much appreciated, thanks.
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You have 2 options at the moment.
1) Ship device to one of the many great people with a Java Card/XTC2 Clip - Look at the OP of this thread to see where the people are located.
2) With some time and luck - King Root, which has been proven to work for a number of M8 users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61920423&postcount=3652
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62161028&postcount=47
I was able to get S-Off using the KingRoot and Sunshine method. Now what? Although I did get root long enough to get S-off, I lose it after each time I get temp root with the KingRoot app again. KingRoot will say that I have root, but I can't get SuperSU to install.
I am doing a factory reset now and will try to use KingRoot to get temp root, then install SuperSU. Will I then be able to install TWRP after SuperSU is installed correctly?
Koblek said:
I was able to get S-Off using the KingRoot and Sunshine method. Now what? Although I did get root long enough to get S-off, I lose it after each time I get temp root with the KingRoot app again. KingRoot will say that I have root, but I can't get SuperSU to install.
I am doing a factory reset now and will try to use KingRoot to get temp root, then install SuperSU. Will I then be able to install TWRP after SuperSU is installed correctly?
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If you are S-OFF, then I would flash a custom recovery and then a custom ROM (if you want)
or flash superSU in the custom recovery if you just want root.
Once S-OFF you are in full control of your device, so do some reading about it as you can end up with an expensive paperweight easily if you don't know what you're doing.
Or try vroot, i rooted my phone in just 1 tap
dexter0218, I think it would be BIG BIG news here if there were a one-click root solution for the newest M8. 5.01 phones aren't rootable easily.
boltz111, no need to fiddle with SuperSU. Now that you are S-Off, make sure you have ADB and get the latest TWRP for the M8. Drop to your ADP shell and do:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery twrp.zip
(sub in the name of your zip)
That's it. Then:
- Power down
- Power up in bootloader (hold down vol)
- Go to recovery
You have to go to recovery before booting or else the rom will overwrite the recovery.
Once you're in TWRP, you can load up SuperSU from a .zip and it will do its thing.
Or flash a rooted ruu from fastboot, loads you back to stock but with perm root, never had an issue
I am using Stock Kernel and CM 12.1 on my Oneplus One. I just want to use the "Titanium Backup" app (that running on Root device only). What exactly I need to do with my phone: ???
Just Unlock my Bootloader and run SuperSU ?
Can I still be able to use Rom OTA with the Unlock Bootloader ?
Thanks!
Too late for Titanium backup now!
Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One
To answer your question briefly, in order to use Titanium Backup, you need a rooted device.
To root your device you need:
unlocked bootloader
custom recovery (i.e. TWRP )
When you unlock your bootloader, you will lose all your data - your phone will be wiped!
Long story short, it is now too late for you to use Titanium backup to backup your apps & data.
Please note that there are methods to backup your apps which do not require root access, but you will have to use adb & the command line - not for everyone, and not what you had in mind I imagine.
You might just want to make a list of your favourite apps, backup their data & settings as much as you can, and then once you've got some sort of backup done, proceed to unlock your bootloader (and wipe your device), install TWRP, gain root, and profit.
Once again: Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One
ohussain said:
Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One
To answer your question briefly, in order to use Titanium Backup, you need a rooted device.
To root your device you need:
unlocked bootloader
custom recovery (i.e. TWRP )
When you unlock your bootloader, you will lose all your data - your phone will be wiped!
Long story short, it is now too late for you to use Titanium backup to backup your apps & data.
Please note that there are methods to backup your apps which do not require root access, but you will have to use adb & the command line - not for everyone, and not what you had in mind I imagine.
You might just want to make a list of your favourite apps, backup their data & settings as much as you can, and then once you've got some sort of backup done, proceed to unlock your bootloader (and wipe your device), install TWRP, gain root, and profit.
Once again: Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One
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First thanks for your answer! Do I lose the rom OTA Update after unlock my bootloader and install TWRP ? Do I must change to the TWRP recover or I can use the stock one?
Sent from my A0001 using xda premium
You're welcome. You cannot use the stock recovery, and you will not receive OTAs once you've unlocked your bootloader, installed TWRP, and rooted.
Trust me, you are not missing out on anything - OTAs will be rare, and the quality of the OS provided by Cyanogen is low.
Once you have TWRP installed, you can choose to install other ROMs. I highly recommend XenonHD. Light, stable, AOSP-based (not a CM clone), with full layers support, and a balanced feature-set.
There are many ROMs available for the OnePlus One for you to choose from, and you could also run CM or OxygenOS - it's up to you.
Just make sure you read & follow Heisenberg's guide, and you'll be fine. :good:
Since you're coming from Cyanogen's lollipop build, you should pay special attention to the note at the end of section 2 of Heisenberg's guide ('How To Install A Custom Recovery On Your Device').
xperia_88 said:
First thanks for your answer! Do I lose the rom OTA Update after unlock my bootloader and install TWRP ? Do I must change to the TWRP recover or I can use the stock one?
Sent from my A0001 using xda premium
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Unlocking your bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA updates. However, having a custom recovery and root do. If you want to take an OTA in future you just need to flash the stock recovery and the stock system.img and OTA's will work perfectly.
ohussain said:
You're welcome. You cannot use the stock recovery, and you will not receive OTAs once you've unlocked your bootloader, installed TWRP, and rooted.
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This isn't entirely true, the unlocked bootloader doesn't matter.
Heisenberg said:
This isn't entirely true, the unlocked bootloader doesn't matter.
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You're God damn right.
That's what I meant, but thank you for clearing up precisely what precludes one from receiving OTA updates. :good:
Heisenberg said:
Unlocking your bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA updates. However, having a custom recovery and root do. If you want to take an OTA in future you just need to flash the stock recovery and the stock system.img and OTA's will work perfectly.
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Thanks for your clear answer!!!
Since I just want to use my favorite Titanium Backup but still using OTA update I would appreciate if you'LL guide me what is the easier way to do that.
I know now that to Unlocking my bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA but the custom recovery and root do so where I can find link to the stock recovery and the stock system.img and do I must to flash them after the Unlocking my bootloader ?
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xperia_88 said:
Thanks for your clear answer!!!
Since I just want to use my favorite Titanium Backup but still using OTA update I would appreciate if you'LL guide me what is the easier way to do that.
I know now that to Unlocking my bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA but the custom recovery and root do so where I can find link to the stock recovery and the stock system.img and do I must to flash them after the Unlocking my bootloader ?
10X
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In order to use Titanium you need to unlock your bootloader, then flash TWRP recovery, then use TWRP recovery to flash SuperSU. You'll have root now and Titanium will work. Once you get to the point where you want to take an OTA you can extract the system.img and the recovery.img from the fastboot zip which you'll find here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2906746
Flash them and then OTA updates will work. There are detailed instructions in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2839471