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This is pretty awesome, XDA never ceases to amaze me! I'm sure it's running pretty slow though right now. Can't wait to have it running on the Gtab
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/28/someone-got-honeycomb-running-on-the-nookcolor/
Here's the article that jwischka was talking about below from Engadget. I was thinking that Honeycomb would support both tablets and smartphones and different screen resolutions since in the video where Andy Rubin showed off the Motorola Tablet, he let it slip that Honeycomb "sort of is and sort of isn't" for phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/android-3-0-honeycomb-emulator-has-traces-of-smartphone-support/
Very nice.
Also some indication today that there will be smartphone support, albeit with a reduced featureset. Hopefully this does not mean our screen resolution will exclude us from tablet Honeycomb.
Can't post the link to engadget because I'm new... but the article is worth the quick read.
Hah i just took my nook color back today and ordered a gtab I need a 10" screen though. But i had mine running at 1.1ghz very stable adn VERY snappy.
We don't even have proper hardware acceleration for Gingerbread yet and we're talking about Honeycomb SDK ports - ugh. Come on NVidia, snap to with the drivers!
I'm going to assume nvidia must have some compatible drivers for the tegra 2 for honeycomb already or else the xoom us going to be hobbled out of the box when it comes out
Can't wait for honeycomb!
Honeycomb will be officially unveiled on February 2 -
http://gizmodo.com/5746288/google-w...id-30++also-known-as-honeycomb++on-february-2
Any bets on how late in Feb we see a G-Tablet port? More to the point, hopefully that will mean an influx of apps that now can take advantage of the full Tegra - a good video player would be high on my list, though a good photo editor would be a close second.
Has anyone ported the keyboard yet?? I wanna try that out so bad lol
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Honeycomb will be officially unveiled on February 2 -
http://gizmodo.com/5746288/google-w...id-30++also-known-as-honeycomb++on-february-2
Any bets on how late in Feb we see a G-Tablet port? More to the point, hopefully that will mean an influx of apps that now can take advantage of the full Tegra - a good video player would be high on my list, though a good photo editor would be a close second.
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We have a semi-solid gingerbread rom less than 2 months after its release. I would imagine it will be a bit quicker, given the similarities between the internal hardware between the G tab and the various new Terga processor tablets that are coming out, but who knows.
I suspect in the end it will come down to how much effort the devs want to put into making things work for the G tab. With 2 groups of people working on their own roms (Vegan and Cyanogen), I am not sure they'll drop what they're doing to work on a stock honeycomb release.
Hope I'm wrong though.
I would imagine that Roebeet with his TNT lite Roms will have a working Honeycomb as soon as VS team releases their bloatware version.
I am hoping that this is the OTA update that VS hinted at earlier this month.
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I would imagine that Roebeet with his TNT lite Roms will have a working Honeycomb as soon as VS team releases their bloatware version.
I am hoping that this is the OTA update that VS hinted at earlier this month.
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Oh let's hope we have something much faster than waiting for VS.
For an unbias view and ease of applying apps and roms and ease of having apps work properly, which would be best to get? NookColor or a GTab
the screen difference isnt that much of a main concern really
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For an unbias view and ease of applying apps and roms and ease of having apps work properly, which would be best to get? NookColor or a GTab
the screen difference isnt that much of a main concern really
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I think that the g-tab has the better hardware (not certain tho). That would be more important i would think.
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For an unbias view and ease of applying apps and roms and ease of having apps work properly, which would be best to get? NookColor or a GTab
the screen difference isnt that much of a main concern really
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If the screen isn't an issue, the only answer is the GTab. The hardware specs are better, and nothing about it is locked - you can have a custom rom on the device in less than 5 minutes. It takes longer to download the roms from the internet than it does to put them on the device. This isn't something that's common among devices - often hardware manufacturers lock the bootloader down and make it tricky for users to install custom software - the original root procedure on the EVO required using adb and was far from straightforward, if you weren't technically inclined. By contrast, installation for the GTab involves unzipping a file onto the internal memory and rebooting (slightly more complicated than that, but not much).
I don't know the process on the Nook, but I can't imagine it's simpler than the GTab. The Nook is a proprietary book reader, and B&N is selling them so that you'll buy books and read them - not so you'll hack it into a tablet. They've probably put quite a bit more thought (and if they haven't yet, they're almost certainly about to) into locking the device down.
The main issue with the GTab is the screen. Other than that, it's honestly a very nice piece of hardware, and one that you can be happy with.
Engadget now has a video of it running on the Nookcolor with hardware acceleration. It's so smooth, but there's like no apps i guess since it was built from the SDK preview.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/30/android-honeycomb-port-for-nook-color-gets-graphics-acceleration/
Not only that but if you follow the link to the source you see this...
graphics acceleration more or less working. The SGX driver seems too old for some buffer request of android 3.0, so right now the statusbar is invisible but still functional. Not sure if I can fix that or have to wait for the AOSP release.
What is not working... pretty much everything else, no accelerometer, no wlan, no sound.
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Engadget now has a video of it running on the Nookcolor with hardware acceleration. It's so smooth, but there's like no apps i guess since it was built from the SDK preview.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/30/android-honeycomb-port-for-nook-color-gets-graphics-acceleration/
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As the title says, will we have a ROM with samsung's latest ROM with touchwiz and gingerbread? I am specifically interested in touchwiz because it has gpu acceleration in browser and the UI in general. I came from a Desire in hope that I will get a better phone. Being able to play the latest games is good, but laggy browser, laggy custom launcher and frequent RAM memory leaks makes me want to trade this phone for something else. Its a huge epic fail from Google imo.
Not sure why i posted, might need to get some sleep
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I don't see why it couldn't be done.
I would do it if I had the knowledge, but I don't so I'm going to leave it to the professionals.
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As the title says, will we have a ROM with samsung's latest ROM with touchwiz and gingerbread? I am specifically interested in touchwiz because it has gpu acceleration in browser and the UI in general. I came from a Desire in hope that I will get a better phone. Being able to play the latest games is good, but laggy browser, laggy custom launcher and frequent RAM memory leaks makes me want to trade this phone for something else. Its a huge epic fail from Google imo.
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Are you running stock? Cause my phone is fine with stock I find it more stable then anything else the only thing I hate is the camera app and the ones in the market takes too long to take a picture, beside that as stock android goes is perfect for me at least
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While I would also love to see TouchWiz (I had a Vibrant before it, TouchWiz > stock imo), I don't have any lag issues with my Nexus S as I had with my Vibrant. Did you make sure nothing is on in the background eating up CPU and thus causing everything to slow down?
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While I would also love to see TouchWiz (I had a Vibrant before it, TouchWiz > stock imo), I don't have any lag issues with my Nexus S as I had with my Vibrant. Did you make sure nothing is on in the background eating up CPU and thus causing everything to slow down?
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Damn you said you like touchwiz? Wow first person I know that says that you really need to try sense then
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I loved touchwiz.. Gave me a reason to root and instantly remove it.
Check the dev section, if you have any knowledge you can even help out... seems the guy is stuck on a few things and is busy with exams...
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Yes I've seen jonathon's topic, found it after I posted this one, sorry for not searching before
It's not about the cpu usage, that's fine, I'm only having memory leaks (ram). And the browser sucks when it comes to rendering images and flash content, it lags like hell.
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Yes I've seen jonathon's topic, found it after I posted this one, sorry for not searching before
It's not about the cpu usage, that's fine, I'm only having memory leaks (ram). And the browser sucks when it comes to rendering images and flash content, it lags like hell.
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Desire runs sense right ? and is way different story, if you use to cm7 then nexus s is great latest update all the time and most likely get ice cream before anything else, if you don't. Care about SD storing and sense this phone makes perfect sense if you do then better go with HTC
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Desire runs sense right ? and is way different story, if you use to cm7 then nexus s is great latest update all the time and most likely get ice cream before anything else, if you don't. Care about SD storing and sense this phone makes perfect sense if you do then better go with HTC
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My Desire runs sense by default / stock yes. But I'm rooted and already running CM7.0.3 on it.
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My Desire runs sense by default / stock yes. But I'm rooted and already running CM7.0.3 on it.
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Yeah that's what I thought I had the evo 4G supersonic and sense have some nice features but I went with cm7 I like it a lot but after a week the rom will run into bugs and it will drive me nuts like whencalling the proximity sensor wouldn't work right or get stock in alot of apps, so when they announced this phone I waited cause I don't like T-Mobile now is in sprint so I got it and not bugs and I miss the camera app from sense or cm7 but I'm happy tho
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Believe me, coming from a Desire you'll feel a huge difference in web browsing. The browser in the stock android isn't gpu accelerated as in HTC Sense, so loading flash content or big pictures is practicably impossible, it slows down the phone so much!
Another issue that is bothering me is that the Nexus S has in reality about 300mb of RAM (~200mb RAM are used by the GPU). The system uses about half of it, so you're left with 150mb RAM to handle the apps, which is extremely low. Especially when you open the browser, you're sometimes left with less then 50mb free, which slows down the phone. So everytime I browse the internet, I have to manually kill the app after I'm done, cause I run into a memory leak.
Also custom launchers (launcher pro, adw and others), when filled with 4x4 widgets and have about 4-5 screens, scrolling is not smooth at all. This is because the UI isn't gpu accelerated as well, its handled by the CPU. So unless you OC it a bit, it will be slugish.
I'm pretty disappointed in certain things after coming from an HTC phone (their UI really kicks ass), but the nexus S has a superb display (be it SLCD or S-Amoled), has far much better hardware, enough internal memory (16gb is enough for everyone imo) and a much better battery life, that I can tell it for sure.
And still, all in all, if I knew nexus has these problems with the RAM and browser, I would've probably bought another HTC Device, maybe the Incredible S. That doesn't mean I'm not satisfied with this phone tho, can't wait for icecream sandwich.
YouTube - Google I/O 2011: Accelerated Android Rendering
At the beginning of this video, they basically state that because "Dual core and quad core devices are coming out" that there will be no FULL hardware acceleration in Android...ever...
In a nutshell, they're saying the general public will buy a phone because "IT HAS 5 CORES!" or w/e and not know the difference between GPU and CPU usage. I find this amazing that Android phones, often associated with lag on even dual core phones, still find this a low priority when they are trying to compete with Apple (and potentially Windows Phone 7 someday).
I played with a Motorola Xoom yesterday in the Sprint store (to see what hardware acceleration would POSSIBLY be like in ICS and further beyond). The animations were smooth, but there was STILL some lag (I suppose this is because of larger screen and more pixels needing to drawn.....but why does the iPad and iPad 2 use hardware acceleration so much better with large screens....?) I know in 3.1 they say they're supposed to better support hardware acceleration, so maybe the demo unit I tested still had 3.0....
For the first time, I've actually been considering dropping Android and moving onto Windows Phone 7 in the future. I was really looking forward to the future of Android, but it looks like Google really is only a cash cow looking to cash in on consumers' lack of knowledge on this issue...
EDIT: I know that it has been said that Android will be hardware accelerated, but I guess I was posting to get an understanding on WHY Romain Guy said this....it's conflicting to what has been stated and confusing....
Why don't you consider this for one second. Open the app drawer in Android...thats the whole iOS basically. Does not take much power to run that smooth.
Then consider that the App Drawer is only one part of a huge OS with widgets running and multiple panels and its easy to understand why it takes a bit more power to run this OS.
As for lag, zero with my Nexus S everything is lightning fast. My captivate, x10, and Arc had lag yes, but not my Nexus S.
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Why don't you consider this for one second. Open the app drawer in Android...thats the whole iOS basically. Does not take much power to run that smooth.
Then consider that the App Drawer is only one part of a huge OS with widgets running and multiple panels and its easy to understand why it takes a bit more power to run this OS.
As for lag, zero with my Nexus S everything is lightning fast. My captivate, x10, and Arc had lag yes, but not my Nexus S.
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This is a ridiculous statement. Use iOS for a couple of days and then say that. It's a lot smoother doing everything, especially scrolling.
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Why don't you consider this for one second. Open the app drawer in Android...thats the whole iOS basically. Does not take much power to run that smooth.
Then consider that the App Drawer is only one part of a huge OS with widgets running and multiple panels and its easy to understand why it takes a bit more power to run this OS.
As for lag, zero with my Nexus S everything is lightning fast. My captivate, x10, and Arc had lag yes, but not my Nexus S.
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I've actually been playing with my Nexus S a little more and try to push it to see if there is lag, and I agree wholeheartedly....if the speed only improves from here then I'm a happy camper I guess. I think this is due to the fact that there are some parts of hardware acceleration present in Gingerbread currently. If they enable "more hardware acceleration" then I guess it will be much smoother (which there already is virtually zero lag to this phone). I played with other phones in Sprint yesterday, and even comparing the Nexus to the Xoom, the Nexus was faster (albeit, smaller screen means faster drawing and smoother....). I used to have the Epic and that lagged also quite a bit as well (thanks Touchwiz).
You do make an interesting point that I never thought about when comparing iOS to Android with the app drawer example (thanks for that). I hate iOS, and Apple (although the iPhone 4 device itself is dead sexy). Lol...I'm actually kind of disappointed in myself for comparing the smoothness I guess and falling for the Apple "trap".
If you listen a little further, they start talking about tablets and how in Android 3.0 all the basic drawing is now hardware accelerated, and needs to be because they are trying to push so many more pixels through the same pipeline.
They then talk about GPUI - GPU-accelerated UI. That's the core of what they're moving forward with.
Long story short, Honeycomb has HW acceleration in the basic UI. ICS will have that too.
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This is a ridiculous statement. Use iOS for a couple of days and then say that. It's a lot smoother doing everything, especially scrolling.
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THIS.....At the event, they said that apps can be hardware accelerated. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but this will bring the true "iOS" like experience to opening apps, and once the app is open it will be smooth like iOS from there (if the line of code is added by the developer(s)).
The scrolling IS smooth on Android, but not iOS smooth. For example (using a static wallpaper) scroll and notice it is smooth. However, add a YouTube widget to the screen and then click the search icon.....on my Nexus it will lag for a second or two (like it's thinking about it) and then present me with the window transition to the search bar screen. THAT, to me, suggests CPU "thinking" and NOT GPU "thinking". I guess I just notice a lot of elements that can sometimes tax (an extremely light tax thanks to EXT4, but a tax) on the CPU sometimes when it comes to animations and window transitions.
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This is a ridiculous statement. Use iOS for a couple of days and then say that. It's a lot smoother doing everything, especially scrolling.
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No its not and though I didn't start with the original iphone or iphone 3g, I have a iphone 3GS, iphone 4, and an ipad. Statement holds bud.
I like to switch around, I also have a black berry, but Android is superior in every way...though I do not own a windows phone 7 device as of yet.
I love how you say my entire statement is ridiculous and bring up scrolling...did I mention scrolling? NO...did that have anything to do with what I posted? NO...
Common sense, level it up.
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If you listen a little further, they start talking about tablets and how in Android 3.0 all the basic drawing is now hardware accelerated, and needs to be because they are trying to push so many more pixels through the same pipeline.
They then talk about GPUI - GPU-accelerated UI. That's the core of what they're moving forward with.
Long story short, Honeycomb has HW acceleration in the basic UI. ICS will have that too.
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Thanks. I noticed this, and this was what led to my confusion. They say they're moving forward HW acceleration, but why then are there so many contradictory statements such as "there are these limitations to it....etc...." or other statements that basically say "yea...it's coming....but it's not gonna be what you expect it to be.....".
I'm at work, so I can really watch it again to come up with specific quotes, but if you listen there are some in there IMO...
Does a little bit of lag really bother people this much? I've used an iPhone 4 and still prefer android any day of the week. My Nexus S is the best phone I've ever used.
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Does a little bit of lag really bother people this much? I've used an iPhone 4 and still prefer android any day of the week. My Nexus S is the best phone I've ever used.
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It bothers me, yeah. I find it very frustrating.
I think the lag has been slowly bugging me more and more....i seem to still get scrolling lag and some lag opening the app drawer in cm7 regardless of what I do.... That kind of lag is the first thing people notice... It should be one of the highest priorities for the future
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Android 3.0 hardware acceleration, see here:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/03/android-30-hardware-acceleration.html
ICS is the next evolution (revolution?) from 3.0, so expect the same there.
If ICS will be used in the phone, it would have the same hardware acceleration as well.
So, be happy and wait for the Nexus Prime !
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Your really coming off as a little troll ****. If you love apple so much stick with that and GTFO, thanks.
You come into this topic, posting that iOS is anything more than a giant menu (which by the way it is just an app menu and nothing more) and now your *****ing because you get frustrated by the nonexistant lag in the Nexus S...if that frustrates you I'd hate to see how you cope with a real issue.
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Booooo to you sir, for being a flamer. He posted a reasonable question about a legitimate issue.
There IS lag in Android UI. I see it all the time. The main time I notice is the application opening/closing transition animations. Sometimes they literally render at about 2 to 4 frames per second.
Also there is major lag in Honeycomb on Tegra 2 tablets, but it is because of Tegra 2 bug in portrait mode. It is smooth in landscape but very laggy in portrait.
Holy crap, someone has issues
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Holy crap, someone has issues
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Lol. I think his parents never loved him.
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malikadnanm said:
Lol. I think his parents never loved him.
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Love is for the weak.
gunstar3035 said:
Love is for the weak.
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The surest sign of strength is calling someone names on an internet message board for speaking about weaknesses of a mobile operating system.
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I'll let you know when I give a ****.
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I lol'd...
They better add gpu support...
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Love is for the weak.
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Lol
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I lol'd...
They better add gpu support...
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No GPU support! It's perfectly 100% smooth as it is!
iOS is smoother because it's just an app drawer! iOS is incapable of the incredible things we do on Android.
I mean, iOS isn't smoother, AND it's just an app drawer! Wait, what am I saying?
would enabling 2d hardware acceleration under developer options increase or decrease performance for our phones? if im not mistaken what it does it hands over the ui rendering and such to the gpu but with the s4 snapdragon is it necessary?
I have it enabled. Seems to have had a positive effect.
I thought ice cream sandwich already brought hardware acceleration?
Yes it does. but not all apps have it 2d hardware acceleration enabled by default. This option forces it. From my understanding all it takes is a single line of code to enable 2D acceleration but not all devs do it.
I believe it just forces it. Natively, ICS enables it if an app says it wants it enabled.
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If ICS brings HWACC why do apps still scroll like **** compared to IOS and WP7? Twitter, facebook, etc. All choppy.
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If ICS brings HWACC why do apps still scroll like **** compared to IOS and WP7? Twitter, facebook, etc. All choppy.
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I agree.... Its horrible compared to iOS and wp7.
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Also this seems to really improve performance within the mail, Gmail, and txt apps. Might just be me but they don't stutter like they used to.
Curious what it will do to battery life though....
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Yea I would like to see some more input on this as well. Interesting option and curious what it would do to the battery life.
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If ICS brings HWACC why do apps still scroll like **** compared to IOS and WP7? Twitter, facebook, etc. All choppy.
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My guess would be prioritizing threads. IOS (probably WP7 too) make UI a priority to the cpu when interacting with the device thus limiting ot stopping all together in some cases any other background activity or anything unrelated to UI just to focus on UI performance thus smoothness without any interruptions. Android added gpu acceleration which helps A LOT, but having other processes or any other task running (yay true multitasking...) There is no priority to UI, so if the cpu is taxed, scrolling will get affected
There was a huge post from a Google employee explaining this
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Will do testing on the battery. I dont think it will be much unless your doing alot of texting, tweeting, etc. Here is a good little video showing the difference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKV39MPZw30
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My guess would be prioritizing threads. IOS (probably WP7 too) make UI a priority to the cpu when interacting with the device thus limiting ot stopping all together in some cases any other background activity or anything unrelated to UI just to focus on UI performance thus smoothness without any interruptions. Android added gpu acceleration which helps A LOT, but having other processes or any other task running (yay true multitasking...) There is no priority to UI, so if the cpu is taxed, scrolling will get affected
There was a huge post from a Google employee explaining this
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Actually that was a Google intern who was then proven wrong by an actual Google employee and admitted his mistake. He now works for Microsoft I do believe. People need to stop spreading this misinformation.
Relevant link. https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
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If ICS brings HWACC why do apps still scroll like **** compared to IOS and WP7? Twitter, facebook, etc. All choppy.
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My One X (LTE) scrolls fine. As for iOS and WP7 both have there cons. Pro and cons to all.
I sometimes joke that for customization all I can do with my iPhone is change the wallpaper and add Folders of applications. I am enjoying all I can change/add without having to jailbreak/root.
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^I'm not starting an ios vs wp7 vs ics war....each has it's pros and cons, as you said. What I'd like to know, is now that android finally has gpu acceleration, why do apps scroll like ****?
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^I'm not starting an ios vs wp7 vs ics war....each has it's pros and cons, as you said. What I'd like to know, is now that android finally has gpu acceleration, why do apps scroll like ****?
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Which apps scroll like ****, and more important, what does **** scroll like?
But seriously... everything has been very slick and smooth on my end. I'd be interested in checking out whichever apps you're having trouble with and seeing if forcing hardware acceleration helps any.
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Actually that was a Google intern who was then proven wrong by an actual Google employee and admitted his mistake. He now works for Microsoft I do believe. People need to stop spreading this misinformation.
Relevant link. https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
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Thanks for not only correcting this, but also providing a source to back it up.
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Which apps scroll like ****, and more important, what does **** scroll like?
But seriously... everything has been very slick and smooth on my end. I'd be interested in checking out whichever apps you're having trouble with and seeing if forcing hardware acceleration helps any.
want to be disappointed? try playing a 720p video on the youtube desktop site
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mesasone said:
Which apps scroll like ****, and more important, what does **** scroll like?
But seriously... everything has been very slick and smooth on my end. I'd be interested in checking out whichever apps you're having trouble with and seeing if forcing hardware acceleration helps any.
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Yikes. That's really disappointing. Takes all (well, most) of the fun out of Kate Upton's Cat Daddy
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has anyone figured out if there is any actual downsides to force gpu acceleration?
because i just checked and the phone is NOTICEABLY faster. i mean it was amazing to begin with and way smoother than any android experience i've ever had on my previous phones (G1, G2, Mytouch4gSlide), but this is ridiculous how fast and smooth it is now...
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^I'm not starting an ios vs wp7 vs ics war....each has it's pros and cons, as you said. What I'd like to know, is now that android finally has gpu acceleration, why do apps scroll like ****?
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I really have not had any issue with scrolling. Even before flashing an amazing ROM my device was not laggy. I wouldn't even use the device if it was that bad.
Some Android devices in the pass did have some lag. But not as bad as you make it sound. My last two Android devices have been great: The LTE Galaxy Nexus has been one of my favorite Android devices to date. The LTE HTC One X also has no lag for me. I would for sure return the device before you are not able to get a refund if you are not happy. Good luck with whatever you do.
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wait wait wait a minute...
has anyone figured out if there is any actual downsides to force gpu acceleration?
because i just checked and the phone is NOTICEABLY faster. i mean it was amazing to begin with and way smoother than any android experience i've ever had on my previous phones (G1, G2, Mytouch4gSlide), but this is ridiculous how fast and smooth it is now...
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Exactly. I checked it because I wasn't happy with how the XDA app was scrolling before. Now it seems to be much better. Battery life also just seems to be improving every day, so there arent any downsides in my book.
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Well... we are all waiting gor official ICS to come to gtab+ , but now google releases new android 4.1...what an unfortunate for us..
We waited for AGES to get ICS, and till now we havent got it yet, i ask, till when we wait for JB?
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Probably 4-6 months. I saw an article where the reporter reached out to Samsung about updates, and they said they would seek to update their devices as possible. I personally think Google's push to make it available on Nexus and Motorola Xoom will force other manufacturers to provide Jelly Bean quickly if they want to sell their devices in the future.
It's not entirely a new huge platform jump of Android(Like Gingerbread to ICS) so it might not take that much time to update. A preview build was given to GN users OTA which is a good sign. I do look forward at the these features though:
Project Butter
Android 4.0 was a major upgrade from 2.3 Gingerbread, bringing a whole new interface and speed improvements. Jelly Bean improves on that, with something Google is calling “Project Butter.” This helps make the whole OS feel 100x faster and smoother, running at an insane 60 FPS.
Home screen customization has also been improved. Widgets will now wrap around the space available to them, so you won’t need to go through the hassle process of moving around icons and widgets.
Offline Voice Dictation
Google has not only made more improvements to the keyboard in Android 4.1 JB, but they’ve also brought offline voice dictation. This means that you won’t need a network connection in order to use voice dictation anymore, unlike Siri voice dictation, which needs a constant connection. Unfortunately, this feature is currently only available in US English, but Google promises that more language support will be coming soon.
The keyboard has also made other vast improvements in predictive text input, meaning that the keyboard thinks about what you are going to type before you even type it.
Notifications
In Android 4.0 ICS, we received the ability to view our notifications from our lockscreen, and access an app right through them. Android 4.1 JB takes this even farther, and allows you to do an action without even accessing the app, all from your notifications window pane.
For example, if someone calls you and you miss it, a notification obviously appears. When you swipe down, you can immediately choose to call the person back, or you can message them if you’d like, all directly from your notification window pane. If you’re currently calling someone and decide to hang up, you can just drag the notification window pane down and end the call from right there. Simple and Easy.
Google has also improved the way Social Networks and 3rd-Party apps are integrated with notifications. If you receive a Google+ photo, you’ll see a preview right from the lockscreen, without even having to access the Google+ app. You can comment and +1 on the photo right from your notification window pane, and quickly get back to what you were doing before.
3rd party developers also have great new features that they can integrate into their apps. Pulse, a popular social news reader, has the ability to show you the days’s top news-just by swiping the notification.
Now hold on a sec, once we get the Ics sources we should be able to port aosp jb to GT+ ain't I right?
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Now hold on a sec, once we get the Ics sources we should be able to port aosp jb to GT+ ain't I right?
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I think you are right
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Now hold on a sec, once we get the Ics sources we should be able to port aosp jb to GT+ ain't I right?
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Hmm.. maybe yes.. just keep hoping..
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I'm going to just come out and say it, JB will probably not happen on the 7+, look at how long it took them to give us ICS with them already having released an ICS tablet almost identical to ours months ago. maybe the tab 2 will get it. But who knows maybe they will screw them too and make a tab 3.
im thinking 90% most likely officially won't ever happen, which is why i'm dropping samsung for the nexus 7
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I'm going to just come out and say it, JB will probably not happen on the 7+, look at how long it took them to give us ICS with them already having released an ICS tablet almost identical to ours months ago. maybe the tab 2 will get it. But who knows maybe they will screw them too and make a tab 3.
im thinking 90% most likely officially won't ever happen, which is why i'm dropping samsung for the nexus 7
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Yeah.. btw i'm slapping my face when seeing the price n performance by nexus 7. Gonna throw 7+ outta house.
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kevintangi said:
Yeah.. btw i'm slapping my face when seeing the price n performance by nexus 7. Gonna throw 7+ outta house.
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I'm tempted too, but the absence of a micro-sd slot is making me reconsider...
All we need is ics then we can make this a much better tab than nexus.
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just read that Flash is not supported in JellyBean. Flash Player will be removed from the store August 15th. If you already have it, you will get minor fixes/updates/etc.
Sure I agree flash is old, outdated and a hog. I think they should keep it though.
No micro SD on the Nexus 7? Wow!
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just read that Flash is not supported in JellyBean. Flash Player will be removed from the store August 15th. If you already have it, you will get minor fixes/updates/etc.
Sure I agree flash is old, outdated and a hog. I think they should keep it though.
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From what I understand, Flash is only unsupported in the Chrome browser, but you should still be able to use it for other browsers like Dolphin.
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I'm tempted too, but the absence of a micro-sd slot is making me reconsider...
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I'm in the same boat; but regardless I've bought my last Samsung product. Either I learn to deal with the cloud and no microSD storage, or I wait for someone else to come out with a similar product (maybe a 7.7 screen like the upcoming Toshiba Excite).
But no more Samsung.
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All we need is ics then we can make this a much better tab than nexus.
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Well i think we cant. The specs in nexus 7 is way too high. And JB is said to improve the cpu and gpu performance ?
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Well i think we cant. The specs in nexus 7 is way too high. And JB is said to improve the cpu and gpu performance ?
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I agree. Higher Res, twice the cores, and JB. I placed my order for the 16gb model. Ill miss the SD, but I think I'll be happy. But I won't sell my 7+ just yet.
If you're gonna talk about specs, Nexus S has a worst one than ours and yet it will receive the JB update. Since our device is very similar to the Galaxy SII, which is sure to get JB(I think), then we will too. It's a matter of patience again because of the lack of interest on our devices.
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If you're gonna talk about specs, Nexus S has a worst one than ours and yet it will receive the JB update. Since our device is very similar to the Galaxy SII, which is sure to get JB(I think), then we will too. It's a matter of patience again because of the lack of interest on our devices.
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Nexus= google experience devices. Big difference.
I'm wondering what CrisisCore meant by this being a better tablet than the Nexus if we get ICS? In terms of specs, it's lower resolution and last-gen processor. Sure, it's got microSD and back camera, but really it's hard to argue with speed and resolution. On top of that, there will be far more development on that tablet due to a larger user-base (understatement of the year...). But I'm new to this device, so I'm curious if you know something I'm missing?
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Precisely. "The Cloud" is an interesting concept but unless you have an avenue to connect anywhere at anytime (3/4G + WiFi) it's not as useful as one would desire.
No uSD will most always be a deal-breaker for me.
It'll take a long time. Remember FroYo to Gingerbread on the Galaxy S I series??
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