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Hi everyone!
As the title suggests, I'm thinking about making the switch to Android I'm currently at windows mobile, on a HD2. It's a great phone but I can't help but feel that WinMo just doesn't make such a great mobile OS.
Custom ROM's do improve the experience and all, but still, it's WinMo.. So, I thought "Okay, I'll sell my HD2 and buy myself a Desire". At this time of writing, someone is willing to pay € 250 (keep in mind that this phone is almost a year old and has some scratches on the side).
€ 250 is okay, but I'm aiming for € 300
But, now I'm getting second thoughts.. Should I wait to switch to android? Or should I keep the HD2? The Desire seems pretty solid and futureproof...
I really don't know anymore.. And since it involves quite a lot of money, I thought I could use someone else's take on this
So XDA, what do you think is best?
Wait for something better than the desire, and in the mean time, use the android rom for the hd2
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Yeah, that's why I'm having second thoughts There are a lot rumored phones which should out somewhere around the holidays I guess.. But, is it worth the wait? Because the rumored dual core cpu seems kinda overkill.. And 1.2 GHz cpu's don't really seem to make much difference to me.
I mean, 1GHz is already a lot of horse power for a phone :O
Edit: In the world of gadgets and technology, something new and better is released daily, I could keep on waiting for something better?
It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert
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It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert
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I was kinda thinking the same thing Although I'm hoping to get by a little longer with such a phone, so that's why I want to make the right decision this time. I mean, the HD2 feels like a mistake.. It was and still is, a quite expensive phone so yeah..
En pff, a 4" screen is nice but I don't know.. It's probably going to be the same resolution? And the design of the Desire HD looks less attractive compared to the one of the HD2 or the Desire. Well, that's just my opinion
and oh, do you have any remarks on your Desire? Something that could've been done better or..?
I'd definitely make the switch. With the help of a friend, I was recently able to put Android (2.2) on my Acer L2R Geeksphone. Since then, I've just been addicted to the phone (mind you, my Tilt2 has got super specs in almost every single aspect than the Acer L2R).
Everything that wasn't available for me with Wm is now on Android. My Tilt2 has just been laying on the floor since I got Android on this device. Now I'm looking to get a Captivate.
I've been with Windows Mobile since PocketPC 2002 on my Toshiba e740. I liked the OS because it was hackable. Swap out components, make edits, and new features.
What I didn't like is the sluggishness.
Android on my Nexus One is amazing. Here are a few thoughts that I've come across. The trackball is better then an optical pad, but don't buy anything without either one of those. You could get by without it but the trackball has really been useful in games and emulaters. I'm not sure how the optical pad would suffice. I had a Samsung Epix with an optical sensor and 1 swipe was 1 direction. So gaming is out right there. Selecting text is a pain but better then nothing.
The larger screens may seems nice, but the same resolution things will start to look blocky/pixelized. My friend has an AT&T Captivate (Galaxy S) and the screen looks good. It is a bit too big for me. The bigness of the screen make the phone very thin. Which is a good/bad thing. The Galaxy S is sweet but it lacks a trackball/sensor that is very handy.
The Desire is basically the same as a Nexus One. If I could trade my Trackball for a few physical buttons... I wouldn't. The phone is responsive and fast enough to use the onscreen controls. Being able to hit the green send button to quickly bring up the dialpad would very sweet vs having to launch the dialer from my homescreen. Honestly I don't miss a physical button though.
Life is a trade off though:
Nexus One
Trackball is the best of the best if you want to do any kind of gaming.
Trackball Notifications is a treat, presenting 255 programmable different colors for various notifications.
I think they got the FM radio working on the Nexus One.
Software updates are glorious.
You can make the Nexus one look like the Desire (which is sexy)
Desire:
Physical buttons make it easy to bring up the dialer from anywhere to make a call. I've noticed on Android the End Key doesn't really do anything beside hang up a call. I guess some programs could remap those keys for other uses.
Optical sensor is middle grade. Makes gaming basically useless unless it is all touch controls. Given the quirky multitouch issues of the screen in the Desire/Nexus one, that is also limiting.
I think the Desire is sexy
Galaxy S
I'm not too sure about it yet. I recommended my friend by one, and he did. He complains about the battery being very very short (half a day on light use).
The screen has a blue/green hue. Very noticable.
The screen is easily visible in direct sunlight. Which is awesome.
No trackball/sensor. Ouch.
Hummingbird processor/GPU
Screen has a great multitouch screen. So multitouch gaming is easily possible.
Phone is so THIN that you could probably afford a thicker longer battery to make it last throughout the day.
My opinion... wait. If you want one now the Nexus will start to get Gingerbread probably starting in October (almost a month). Maybe try to find one second hand or cheap. Stay out of contract because some better phones with better processors will start coming out very soon.
The wait for a new phone like desire hd or desire z is not to long and will be a big difference. But no one would blame you if you jumped the gun, especially if you like the design better and feel 1 ghz is enough.
Yeah, the Nexus One has crossed my mind already.. but it's a bit more expensive than the Desire and it's kinda hard to order one and get it shipped right here to Belgium.
I don't know why, but Google doesn't ship to Belgium. It did to the Netherlands but, Google has stopped shipping Nexus' and right now, I don't find a webshop which has cheap shipping or even the Nexus One.
And concerning the Desire HD/Z, I don't think there'll be much difference, the Z will have a physical keyboard and the HD will have a huge screen, just like de HD2 does. But, I noticed that with the HD2, holding the phone can be problematic sometimes. Operating the device with one hand can be kinda tricky, you could easily drop the phone that way..And oh, the Desire HD is not likely to have a trackbaal/sensor And just like player911 says, it's something which is very handy! Most of the time when I have a Android device in my hand, I use the trackball/sensor to switch screens etc.
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http://htcpedia.com/news/995.html
(rumored spec's of the HTC HD, although I guess most of you already knew that )
Are there any more rumored Android devices? :O
One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
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I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.
narcoustic said:
One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
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Hmm, I've read about the battery life.. Is it really that bad? I mean, do you have troubles to get through the day with one charge?
Semseddin said:
I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.
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Good point. But the Android ports for the HD2 are nothing close to the real deal, it seems. No? And personally, I don't like WP7 at all.. Way to apple-ish for me. I want a phone which lets me do whatever I want to do with it. That's something which is not going to be possible with WP7 - unless it gets hacked, and it probably will, but still, I don't like it
Battery on desire will get you through about a day on a single charge (pre froyo) but its not drastically worse than other smart phones I don't think. I always charge my phone everyday anyway.
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I wouldn´t think on make the switch
My Leo is capable of having the best of both OS and still has same or even better specs than "newer" devices.
And now that WP7 is just around the corner, I´ll stay with WM/WP!
After owning an HD2 you won't to go back to anything with a smaller screen, i did and hated it, so bought a streak! So much better than the HTC in every department
Personally, I think 4" is the biggest screen size I find comfy. Anything bigger is a bit of a risk in the hand.
Ive had the Nexus one and the desire. ALthough near identical, I much appreciate the hard buttons as opposed t o the softkeys on the Nexus.
The Nexus Trackball acts funny after a few months of use (or did in my case) and the optical joystick on the desire randomly breaks with most CM based Roms. so
Btw HTC Sense has a pretty good text selection feature making it easy to deal w/o any sort of joystick/trackball.
I'd wait and get the next range of HTC phones or a samsung galaxy phone. Both will have huge android dev (galaxy coz they simply sold so many!) and HTC because the community has been built around HTC Devices.
The two biggest things on my Desire wish list include:
- better GPU not that I really play games , but hey! I would if I could!
- Multi touch issue (you wont notice it in the browser) but a lot of games are soooo frustrating because of the multi-touch bug
THe Nexus one had the following issues:
Power button has a mind of its own
hard to press soft keys
Bought a Galaxy S to review so will let you know what thats like. Im sure it'll have its quirks.
Hope this helped
Oz
Okay, I've got an HD2 fresh out of the box and running like a dream that someone wants to trade a samsung vibrant for. This HD2 runs froyo great and with a disabled G sensor I've got all the quirks out (minus the G sensor of course) I just wanted to see what you'd go with, sadly I know samsung hasnt been so good about keeping their phones updated and that is the one thing that makes me hesitant (okay not the one thing, the screen and processing power certainly help) and I'm just looking for opinions from other nerds
Keep the HD2. It runs Android pretty fast as well as Windows Mobile. Oh, and the HD2's Android port already has 2.2 with Flash support
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Keep the HD2. It runs Android pretty fast as well as Windows Mobile. Oh, and the HD2's Android port already has 2.2 with Flash support
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Hell yes!!!
I thought that too but I'm eligible for upgrade in 4 months so which would retain value better
I'm biased towards HTC so I'd say stick with the option to dual boot. But if you want a true Android experience then definitely try the Vibrant.
Btw I'm posting this from my HTC HD2 running darkstones froyo
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and I'm going it from shubcraft with the G-sensor disabled.
I just want to know which will retain value more since I am eligible for upgrade (to whatever the best phone is at that time) in 4 months and I want it to still be sellable, I'd do the vibrant but I know how iffy they are on their upgrades, I was a sad owner of a behold 2
ive used both and ive loved android from my g1 days! like a poster said above if you want the true android experience get the vibrant. its only a matter of time before roms start dropping. the screen is prettier then the hd2 and lets face it ... no matter what you do to windows mobile it still sucks! sorry guys !
get the vibrant !!!!
how is the screen prettier? I must ask I didnt know anything about that really... i just know it feels cheap and plasticky and none of the specs are as good as hd2 with android
i have the hd2 with android and i also have a vibrant. now before anything get says ive never been a fan of wm! in my opinion the vibrant is a better phone. if you want android get an android phone. not a phone with " windows mobile" then flash android on there! the samsung also has a higher resloution screen and it actually works in the sunlight. and the battery life on the hd2 is HORRENDOUS and thats being nice. i average about 10,000 texts a month and over 3000 minutes and the hd2 would crap out on me in 4 hours flat! im all for buying spare batteries and such and i really wish i could say i had a good experience with the hd2 but besides the big screen the phone serves as a good paper weight
but in what way is the HD2 worse than this as an android phone? theres the G sensor yeah but were like 4 steps away from calibrating that and defeating the issue and the hardware is quite obviously better...
Speaking strictly on hardware I think the HD2 is the winner. The Vibrant doesn't feel too well put together. The hardware was what made me get the HD2 over the Behold 2 and other phones being offered in April.
Software speaking I wish I'd never gotten the HD2. Maybe that's just my experience. But as soon as I saw that you could run Android from the HD2 the phone was new again. But right now while I want a true Android experience I'm gonna till Sept for the newest offerings rather than get the Samsung.
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so I guess the general consensus is the HD2, i mean with an HD2 running android it seems theres really no competition from my standpoint, I really dont see much longevity in the galaxy S series either, i mean they still havent updated to froyo...
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but in what way is the HD2 worse than this as an android phone? theres the G sensor yeah but were like 4 steps away from calibrating that and defeating the issue and the hardware is quite obviously better...
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OTHER than the horrendous battery life?
both run a 1ghz cpu i also thought i read the gpu was better on the vibrant as far as screen yea its.3 inches smaller but it has gorilla glass which is stronger than the hd2 and the hd2 is 480 X 800 WVGA where the vibrant is 480 x 800 Super AM-OLED battery life on the vibrant is great and is true android dont get me wrong hd2 is great but it depends on personal preference
They're both excellent phones. The HD2's screen is large and immersive, and with some tweaking and researching, HD2 would be near-perfect according to today's standards of phones. Samsung vibrant is just as good, but the screen isn't as large. However, the quality of the Vibrant's screen is amazing. Again, both great phones, definitely some of the best that T-Mobile has to offer right now.
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i have the hd2 with android and i also have a vibrant. now before anything get says ive never been a fan of wm! in my opinion the vibrant is a better phone. if you want android get an android phone. not a phone with " windows mobile" then flash android on there! the samsung also has a higher resloution screen and it actually works in the sunlight. and the battery life on the hd2 is HORRENDOUS and thats being nice. i average about 10,000 texts a month and over 3000 minutes and the hd2 would crap out on me in 4 hours flat! im all for buying spare batteries and such and i really wish i could say i had a good experience with the hd2 but besides the big screen the phone serves as a good paper weight
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They have the same 800x480 screen res. Battery life has gotten better with new builds, I'm averaging a solid 12 hrs of heavy use. The HD2 feels better, looks better and is made better than that ugly plastic samsung thing.
And also..last time I checked no one is trying to put winmo on their phone.... Get the vibrant! And you wouldn't get 12 hours out of any phone with heavy use! Stop your ****!
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Vibrant has a faster processor (Hummingbird > Snapdragon), more graphics power, better quality screen (Super AMOLED), and runs Android out of the box. I have an Epic 4G and coming from the regular AMOLED on my Samsung Moment I notice a HUGE difference. The Galaxy S screens are just amazing.
All Galaxy S phones (Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, and Fascinate) will get FroYo by early October, and likely Gingerbread by March/April of next year.
If you want the extra .3 inches in screen real estate get the HD2, if you want the newer, more powerful device get the Vibrant.
I'm on Orange in the UK and due for my upgrade in Oct/Nov this year.
I've had my X10 about 14 months now and still like it, though I am running Froyo on it which improved things greatly!
I'm a really heavy user - average 900 mins, 1500 txts & 750MB of 3G data per month, plus a similar amount of data over Wi-Fi. I also consider my phone to be my main music player and camera and love playing games.
Which phone should I go for and why? I'm really unsure as to what I should be looking at - I want something that won't date quickly, has a decent battery life (charging it every night is normal to me) and has a decent screen.
Not too bothered about 3D and don't want a physical keyboard. Not bothered about back button etc being physical buttons or not.
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You just described the Galaxy S II. Wont age fast, plays games amazingly, decent battery life but its much better with a custom rom (I also charge every night), and the screen is the most amazing display I have ever seen. However you said your upgrade isn't until October so I wouldn't be surprised of something new and more amazing is out by then.
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You just described the Galaxy S II.
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Exactly what I thought while I was reading your needs. Personally I would go for optimus 2x mostly cause is more affortable and still can keep up pretty well but yeah if you need a pure beast then s2 is what you want
Samsung GS2 and you'll be a happy man
Thanks guys, cost isn't an issue cos of my high usage (and the size of my bills) I can get any handset for free when I upgrade, except iPhones but I wouldn't want an iPhone anyway!
I was looking at my mates S II the other day and thought it seemed pretty decent so I guess you've confirmed what I was already thinking.
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i would definately recommend you the samsung galaxy s2, as its the best phone on the market right now, and also with dualcore, good battery and supe amoled plus screen! best phone you can get at all!
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I'm sorry to tell you, but I think you are at the wrong place. Everyone here likes his desire s.
If you need a big screen, try galaxy note or use pc
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Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I would advise you to wait for the Mobile World Congress before upgrading... you'll have many more options within a couple of months...
But if you still want to upgrade now, here's my input :
1. Sensation : ? Why would you want to consider that? It's an average phone, and from whatever time i've spent on it on my friend's phone, it's nothing to write hone about. Does anyone even remember the original Sensation anymore (Especially after the XL and the XE?)
2. The SGS2 is a very very fast phone, with great hardware, but i have two issues with it : The screen has a bluish tinge to it, and colour reproduction is inaccurate across the spectrum. Secondly, it looks like a plastic business card holder
3. The Galaxy Nexus is a lovely looking device, the form factor is very attractive. In my discussions with zeekiz (who bricked his DS and migrated to the GN) he says he loves the phone and it's not slow or anything like you mentioned. Plus, you'll be the first person to get the next Android version update (Jellybean). Thirdly, it always makes sense to go for the newer device, both for the gains in hardware, as well as company support that comes more easily and lasts longer for newer (especially) flagship phones.
Best of luck choosing your next device!!
Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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Just a small note here, with my experiance the 3.7' of the Desire S is the largest screen size for a mobile that I can -almost- fully use with one hand, whenever you go beyond that, you may have to get used to work with both hands, and that made me drop the sensation in favor of my DS
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I came from a HTC Sensation to the Desire S as i found the Sensation too big. Surprisingly i have found the Desire S not much slower.
I would also wait for the MWC...but if you can't wait, IMHO Sensation is a good device especially after it's rooted and equipped with the custom ICS based roms made for the XE version (with CPU at 1.5 Ghz)...i think capy's work.
Anyway you have a lot of roms to try even with ICS out there.
Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
Galaxy Nexus has a good screen and it's not slow but i think it's a little big, you will clearly need 2 hands if you want to use it properly.
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Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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Right on! Exactly my thoughts about the SGS2. It feels like a business card holder!
Wait for mwc and HTC edge if price isn't the big deal
Otherwise, i personaly would buy a sensation, the gs2 is sure a nice device, but like mentioned above the screen isn't the best and the plastic body feels weird.
The galaxy nexus isn't a device for me, there are 2 dealbreakers at my opinion, even if the resolution is better than at the gs2 the grapic chip is wors and there is no sd slot.
The update cycle is sure a point and the nfc also, but for my opinion it's a pure developer phone.
The sensation is from hardware almost the same like the sensation xe and every rom can be exchanged between those 2 devices, there is no nfc, for sure, but the gs2 also haven't got one, so this isn't a point of interest for you i think.
Also even if all of them have them same frequenzies the sensation runs at a stock speed of 1.5 ghz with an xe rom, so it got the highest frequency of those phones.
Swifted from my Desire S far away from my PC
yeah i'd wait for MWC but if not galaxy nexus for all the reasons above. It is definitely not a slow phone, especially since google probably built ICS for the nexus. The only thing i hate about the nexus phones is the fact that they're always released at awkward times. By awkward, i mean right before all the new hardware comes out. My brother has an S2 and it does have a horrible plasticky feeling. While the galaxy nexus is the same, it seems to hide it better. The white S2 is even worse! It has no grip on the back which makes it absolutely horrible to hold, not to mention a liability too.
It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
From what I'm hearing about HTC's line-up for MWC, I hope they also announce a sensible phone. At the moment I really don't know what I'll get, as the current rumours all seem to have several problems for me.
1. Screens too big.
I have a non-upgradable 2.5" thumb. I've spoken to my network provider but they wont give me a larger one. I do not want to have to change grip or use two hands to turn screen on/off. The DS screen size is perfect. It is fine watching films on Netflix.
2. Quad core. Really?
Does anyone remember the Coca-Cola/Sprite stunt yo-yo's from the eighties? (Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.) They were a massive craze when I was at school. They came in two versions. "Standard" and "Pro". The Pro ones cost nearly twice as much. Why was that? It was because the Pro version had "Pro" written on the side. That was it. They were the same size and weight as the standard version. But every kid in my class practically sold a kidney to get the pro version, because to show up in the playground with the standard version stood you out for ridicule, and everyone was certain the Pro version could do better stunts. What is quad core going to give us? How often is it going to be running on more than 2 cores? Can it do better stunts? My single core phone can render web pages quickly, run any game I've asked it to, record 720p video at 30fps, and has a smooth and lag free UI. It just doesn't have "Pro" written all over it. That word seems to brain-wash kids into doling out dosh! Kids love the idea of being "Pro". Look at what every premium version of any app on the Android Marketplace is called.
3. Skinny form-factors
Leading to phones being bendy and having a non-removable battery. I like my solid aluminium DS. I've held the SGS2. It feels like a kinder surpise egg. Squeeze it too hard and I worry it'd break. Plus if we are having to have a (pro) Quad Core phone don't we need a bigger battery? Did you know the HTC Edge has a fifth core (super pro) that is a very low power companion core for when the phone is off in your pocket? Turn your phone on (without dropping it changing your grip to reach the button) and expect laptop battery life from the 40nm chip. Will it come with a Pro Charger?
4. No SD Card slot.
OK most of the phones with these also claim built-in 32GB storage which is fine for capacity, but what if I brick my phone larking about on XDA? What if it just packs in? Currently all my music/photos/documents would simply be removed and put into another phone. If it's built-in and your phone wont boot.....Are the cloud-storage sites encouraging phone manufacturers to do this?
5. Build Quality.
HTC seem to have really dropped the ball with this one. They used to be fantastic. However I know 3 people who have bought the DS since September (on my recommendation) and all of them have been back for repair at least once. One of them died for the second time two nights ago with the dreaded eMMC chip failure again! WTF? Did they replace the faulty board with another one prone with the same weakness? She also waited 6 weeks to get that phone back the first time. I feel guilty now. Also check Amazon for the reviews of the DS. Since September it's started getting a load of 1 star reviews and they all read the same. It seems I was lucky in buying my DS on it's release, before it seems HTC moved production to the local wine bar/crack house. There is no way I'm spending £450 on something I'm not confident will last a year or will take me 6 weeks to get repaired.
If HTC...no if ANYONE announce a phone that has: A screen under 4", solid build, removable battery, SD card slot, improved camera optics, decent amount of RAM, reasonable battery life and justifiable processing power, then I'll get my wallet out. Or if it comes with a free Pro Yo-Yo. They do better stunts.
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
wnp_79 said:
It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
(Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.)
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
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Brilliant!
Love the rant (and i thought i was the only one with this illness)
I agree on mostly everything you've said above... especially HTC screwing up on its strengths... build quality, sub-par components, and progressively bloat-ier (i know that's not a word) Sense... Though i'd still buy an HTC instead of a Samsung, all things set aside, they do better stunts!!
Yeah. Your words seem to come right from my mind.
a desire s pro would be really cool
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If i had the choice, i'd choose the sensation in a heartbeat.
First, it has the beat build IMO. The SGS 2 is too plasticky and since it's far too thin, it feels weird in my hand. The galaxy nexus is waaaaaay to big. The sensation is perfect
Second, HTC Sense. It is just too good and i can't get a device that has no chance of getting Sense. Besides, touchwiz sucks and the stock experience on the nexus can be acieved through an AOSP ROM.
That said, the super amoled screen is quiet good ad a plus point of both sammys.
That said, i recommend you wait till MWC. Something awesome will surely come up. There is a thread, full of leaks on the two upcoming htc devices, the One X and the One S.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476788
it has to be the htc amaze, i think its a great phone, in addition to that htc has quality in its build, as in our desire s the aluminum feel is way better than the plastic in most samsungs
Hi guys, I m Prash.. I m planning to buy this phone.. May i know--
1. How s the phone overall?
2. How s the battery life?
3. Pls reply
Prashanthme said:
Hi guys, I m Prash.. I m planning to buy this phone.. May i know--
1. How s the phone overall?
2. How s the battery life?
3. Pls reply
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hello
Phone very nice, although very nearly one year old now
Battery life completely depends on what you do, but should easily get one day full of high activity or a couple with minimal, will depend on which ROM you use and how phone is configured
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
ben_pyett said:
hello
Phone very nice, although very nearly one year old now
Battery life completely depends on what you do, but should easily get one day full of high activity or a couple with minimal, will depend on which ROM you use and how phone is configured
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
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Hey thanks for the reply... By the specs i saw is just 1GHZ?? and 1GB RAM(More precise 768 MB or something)...
Prashanthme said:
Hi guys, I m Prash.. I m planning to buy this phone.. May i know--
1. How s the phone overall?
2. How s the battery life?
3. Pls reply
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Hi Prashanth.
Coming from the Galaxy Ace, this will blow your mind....especially if you've never used Sense before. The hardware is top notch...and you'll notice the worlds apart it it from Samsung, the moment you lay your hands on it. The camera is leagues ahead of your current phone too, and so is the screen. Same goes for the powertrain and internal memory as compared to the Ace.
That said, if you notice, i've repeatedly stressed on "compared to the Galaxy Ace" in my comments above. This is because there is no absolute, universal answer to your question, and there needs to be a reference point for comparison. If you compare it to other phones however, there are pluses and minuses depending on what you're comparing it to, and what amount of money you're willing to put into it.
Most of us here at the DS forum bought this phone when it was a premium device, and probably the first HTC phone with Gingerbread. So we paid a premium even though larger phones were available at a comparable price - add or subtract a couple of thousand rupees (the Incredible S, for example). So most of here believe that this is the ideal device - 3.7 inches being the perfect screen size to be one-hand-operable, and the form factor being one of the most ergonomic i've seen in any phone.
Battery life is top-notch as far as smartphones go, especially once you load up a custom ROM like Reaper or Endymion... but you won't be beating a Nokia feature phone if that's what you're after. Everybody at the smartphone scene agrees that a bigger battery is better, and of course we'd like a 4000mA battery! But there are technical, engineering and aesthetic components that constrain that choice for each device.
I would advise you to wait for the One series of new HTC phones, but after some very thorough reading up on the new lineup, i'm kinda disappointed in them. The two biggest gripes i have are : 1) No removable battery; and 2) No expandable memory (approx 11GB of user accessible memory is not adequate by a long shot IMHO. So even today, I stand by the Desire S as the best single device I have ever used, and I recently bought one more (for my wife) despite no constraints on the money I was willing to spend, or a dearth of choices...
But remember, modding on an HTC is very different from that on a Samsung. No more ODIN for you... get ready for a lot of new terminology and a different approach to customizing your phone. Also, the DS suffers from one ultimate hazard, and that is a high probability of an eMMC chip corruption (hardware bricking) if you pull out the battery while the phone is powered up. As long as you take that as gospel truth and avoid it, you'll be fine.
And even if you disregard everything that i've said above... just throw it all out the window.... this phone would still be worth buying simply because you won't find a better online community on any other device out there. You'll only realize this once you start hanging around here... That, in my opinion, is one of the strongest suites of this device, and I advise you to check out the community support on ANY device, whichever you may eventually decide to go for, before you buy it. You can buy a house my friend, but you can't buy family.
If you ask me if it was worth it...if I would do buy this phone again if given a chance to start over...my answer is Yes... It was, and i'd do it again in a heartbeat.
Hey Amith, thanks for ur precious time to type the info... The Thing which surprised me was SENSE.. Actually before buying ACE i was settled to WILDFIRE S.. But the phone had many constraints like the processor, But RAM was Gud.. But Desire series is wat i like the most.. My close friend own a desire.. I always like the tru color display..which blows my mind.. I would hav bought the desire S last week.. But its 1GHz stopped me because once we own a phone it should be of maximum potential.. So i thought if in future release of desire series any dual core i m ready to buy that.. Also with a HUGE RAM (~2GB )... The only thing brags me is battery life.. Mine gives around 21-22HRS with normal usage.. So i m waiting till next month end, if by that time if HTC releases a dual core in desires i ll buy off that
Thanks for the reply guys
This phone is amazing, but a little old. Compared to the Ace, it's much harder to root. But the custom ROMs are quiet better. My friend rooted his Ace yesterday, Desire S users will be shocked to know how easy it was - download a SU ZIP file and flash via Samsung's recovery. No S-Off, no HTC Dev, nothing. But he had a hard time looking for ROMs, he liked just CM9 whose camera doesn't work.
Currently, i would not advise you to buy this, for the simple reason that it's a year old. Why trade an outdated phone for another one? Wait for the ONE series, but if you can't wait, then this is the perfect choice for you
enigmaamit,
Awesome mate. I second everything single word you have written. I bought mine in April 2011 and rooted in December. Now I have settled down with MIUI ROM.
I haven't used the HTC one series but among the available models there is none that even come close to this phone in design and ergonomics. Now I have taken off the screen guard and case mate cover and fallen in love with this phone all over again! The htc one s & x would have a carbon fibre finish, how cool would that be!
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Best phone I ever had.
Great battery life (2 day average), great selection of roms, fast & smooth, perfect size (3.7" pwns), and on top of that all, a great community!
I also think we are up to date on the latest software. I mean we got ICS, sense 3.0, 3.5 (all runs smooth as butter), and soon we'll have sense 3.6 and 4.0 running as well.
I have to agree with the others though, if I were to get a phone now, i'd wait for the One series.
I really like the phone - everything runs smoothly so far. Sense 3.5 is the best UI I've used so far.
Battery is good enough - I have to charge every night, but I use the phone a lot during the day.
Anyway - now I would probably wait for the One.