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Help with Nandroid

Hey all,
I've been searching everywhere in google as well as in XDA with no success. I am trying to do a full Nandroid backup (just like people are advising you to do when changing roms).
I currently have Clockwork 3.0.0 and am Rooted on stock. When I go into recovery, the only thing I have in regards to backup is just "backup" and no "Nandroid Backup" like people are saying all over the forums. Do I have to install something specific? I am puzzled! Is nandroid a method of backing up or the name of a program?
Also, when I backed up using Clockword >> Backup I found its only around 300mb so I assume it doesnt backup your SD content (i.e. pictures and videos + programs) as well? Is there a way to do a FULL image with literally everything?
Any help will be appreciated!

Hi...well backup sounds about right. Don't worry about whether it says nandroid or not. Mind doesn't. Just go ahead and do the backup.
And as for the SD card...well no need to worry there either because the SD contents do not get wiped out anyway, so there's no need for it to be backed up in the sameway.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

When I'm looking at the development section, it says that it will "WIPE ALL YOUR DATA". Doesn't this suggest I should also backup my pictures + videos?
Thanks for the help!

The only thing that wipes all your data and sdcard is a fastboot oem unlock, and it sounds like you're already past there. Flashing new roms and choosing "wipe data" in clockwork recovery does not touch your sdcard at all.

It's always a good idea to backup your photos and videos just in case. It only takes a few minutes and better to waste a few minutes than lose a precious irreplaceable video of the kid's first steps.
Nothing should wipe your sdcard other than the fastboot oem unlock, but that doesn't mean it can't be wiped by mistake. I just responded in another thread where the guy accidentally formatted his sdcard. Everything gone.
Better safe than sorry, in my opinion.

haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?

co0kie said:
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.

distortedloop said:
It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,

co0kie said:
So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
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Titanium will backup apps and data that are on the sdcard if you put them there with the apps2sd feature. It's smart that way. I'm talking about the apps that store settings and stuff (like Titanium itself, Launcher Pro, ADW, the gym log apps I've used, lots of games, etc) that put user data on the sdcard outside of the protected or apps2sd storage area on the sdcard.
I don't use an app for rsync, I just use the rsync command from the terminal on my Mac.
There's a couple of rsync apps on the Market. Someone mentioned using an app to rsync in one of the threads on here not too long ago. Here's an appbrain link to a search on the term rsync, it only shows two apps.

What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this

co0kie said:
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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Yes, that's what I meant. It also covers just about all of the various apps to the sdcard hacks that various rom makers have implemented over the last year or two; certainly the popular ones like cyanogen and darktremor's versions.
If you get Titanium Pro, pay for the license. It will enable batch restore where all your apps can be restored at once without user intervention, otherwise I believe you have to okay each one individually.

I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?

co0kie said:
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
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If you move the app to the sd, the restore will put the app back in its location where it was during the backup. Just run a batch backup of all changed applications after moving anything around.
After you flash a new rom, just run a batch restore: apps and data only, usually not a good idea to restore system settings across different roms.

[Q] How to use Titanium Backup before flashing to a new rom?

Hi.
I want to flash anew.
I want to backup my apps.
I do not have an external SD card (i mean - i do, i just don't use it, it's in my drawer collecting dust).
I see that I can backup apps with Titanium.
But - once I will flash, these backups will all be wiped, will they not?
THANK YOU !

Why not just copy the titanium backup folder to your computer first? Flash your rom then once you get your phone running copy the folder back to your phone. Reinstall titanium backup and restore as needed. Titanium also comes with dropbox built in which can be pretty useful.
Sent from my LG-P999

e4e5nf3nc6 said:
Why not just copy the titanium backup folder to your computer first? Flash your rom then once you get your phone running copy the folder back to your phone. Reinstall titanium backup and restore as needed. Titanium also comes with dropbox built in which can be pretty useful.
Sent from my LG-P999
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Great! Will do that! Thanks!

benyben123 said:
Hi.
I want to flash anew.
I want to backup my apps.
I do not have an external SD card (i mean - i do, i just don't use it, it's in my drawer collecting dust).
I see that I can backup apps with Titanium.
But - once I will flash, these backups will all be wiped, will they not?
THANK YOU !
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Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Yea I guess you are right....
Just didn't think of it since I thought I am suppose to format the SD card every time I flash. I also didn't know that TB saves its files to the SD card.
Thanks

ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Dude what is your problem. Sometimes people don't know as much as you. This is why they come here and ask questions. They don't need to be ridiculed for not knowing how to do something. I wouldn't ridicule you for losing for instance some chess games against me. I would instead assume you haven't spent thousands of hours studying it and be fine with that instead of throwing it in your face. You have a problem. I've been coming to these forums for maybe 2 weeks and I've seen some negative or condescending thing from you over and over. Read the rules and adhere to them or kindly leave. That is all.
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e4e5nf3nc6 said:
Dude what is your problem. Sometimes people don't know as much as you. This is why they come here and ask questions. They don't need to be ridiculed for not knowing how to do something. I wouldn't ridicule you for losing for instance some chess games against me. I would instead assume you haven't spent thousands of hours studying it and be fine with that instead of throwing it in your face. You have a problem. I've been coming to these forums for maybe 2 weeks and I've seen some negative or condescending thing from you over and over. Read the rules and adhere to them or kindly leave. That is all.
Sent from my LG-P999
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I'll school you in a game of chess!
If you got chesspresso installed lets play a game sometime.
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Not going to waste my time bud.
Sent from my LG-P999

Not to be rude but if you could beat me I would know who you are. I sort of make part of my living giving private lessons.
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ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Why are you always a ****? Get a clue and lose the damn attitude.
I swear you sound just like a guy that was banned with a very similar name.

e4e5nf3nc6 said:
Not going to waste my time bud.
Sent from my LG-P999
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The Ruy Lopez hah!
I keeeeeel you!
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ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Firstly, Your Rude, Secondly you don't have a clue because you are completely wrong and clearly cannot read.
The OP had clearly stated he did not have an SD Card (but COULD), so if you did a full backup to internal memory (because of no SD Card).
Then yes, if you flash (as most require format/wipe, cache, and dalvik) you would also wipe your backup. Those with devices with no SD Card support should take care to copy the backup files manually to another device for later use.
I was searching for the question of "How to use Titanium Backup before flashing to a new ROM?"
However my question remains unanswered...
I have a custom ROM already installed, with all my apps and configuration etc, I want to try a new ROM to test something, then revert back to the ROM I am using now,
Does Titanium Backup create a restore point image, that I can restore later, and as such carry on using my device where I had it at the point of backup?
If not an image, then is the functionality I am looking for available?
Many Thanks,
Robert Readman

I don't believe titanium offers the feature you are looking for. It does have a feature that creates a flashable zip to to flash all your apps backcto the phone...however this feature has never worked for me lol. I always have to restore my apps the old fashioned way with the batch options restore. Like you,I did not have a SD card when I first flashed my phone. To get around this issue I created a backup with cwm and moved it to my PC for safe keeping. DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID and transfer the backup to PC via USB cable....if you do this the md5 sum will become corrupt. I don't know why but nandroids are sensitive in the way they handled/moved across platforms. Download the free app from the market called Airdroid. It connects your phone to your PC through a wireless LAN connection. It takes a little longer to transfer the boot image since its a large file but its MUCH safer. When you do transfer the nandroid to your PC its very important to not change ANYTHING in the file, especially the name. Change nothing! Otherwise you will mess up the md5. If you do get aa corrupt md5 like I did there is a tutorial on this site somewhere that walks you through the process of fixing it but it was a pain in the a** so use airdroid lol. Hope this helped.
Ps- having a SD card makes like much easier in the world of flashing/android Modding. Even a small one is worth it. Best of luck
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Pain-N-Panic said:
DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID and transfer the backup to PC via USB cable....if you do this the md5 sum will become corrupt. I don't know why but nandroids are sensitive in the way they handled/moved across platforms.
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Thanks for this Pain-N-Panic, I am not sure, but it maybe something to do with transferring in binary / ASCII modes, similar to an issue you come across with FTP, so it is very plausible as an issue but someone with more knowledge of this would need to comment.
My solution which should help, is to go into Terminal Emulator, and use tar to create an archive.
Example...
type 'pwd' (for present working directory), it should be root by default '/'
in my case, i have /sdcard/ as a symlink to /storage/primary/legacy/
so then type 'cd' (for change directory) to the location of your sd card storage.
then typing 'tar -cvf file.tar ./folder/' c for create, v for verbose, f for file, then the file to create, and the folder.
Search for use of tar online, if you require more information.
Code:
cd /sdcard/
tar -cvf TitaniumBackup.tar /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/
You can then transfer your TitaniumBackup.tar with all file ownership, permissions and even file / folder timestamps are stored, for restoring the folder later.

[Q] What would happen if i deleted all the folders on my sd card

then factory reset my phone? i think i have alot of unnecessary folders on my sd card and i dont know which ones are important and which arent so i just want to delete everything and start over can i do that? I ow all my info will be gone. Can i do that? onces i factory reset my phone will it automatically recreate the important folders?

iverson3-1 said:
then factory reset my phone? i think i have alot of unnecessary folders on my sd card and i dont know which ones are important and which arent so i just want to delete everything and start over can i do that? I ow all my info will be gone. Can i do that? onces i factory reset my phone will it automatically recreate the important folders?
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Hi,
You can surely copy everything to your PC.
Then you can format the card, and Android will put back the folders and files it needs.
At least then, you can save some of the stuff you want.

Format it fat32
Sent from my Sensation on CM7 Alpha#10

Ok thanks. But what's the benefit of formating it instead of just deleting everything manually?
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iverson3-1 said:
Ok thanks. But what's the benefit of formating it instead of just deleting everything manually?
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Hi,
Formatting will also fix any errors you might have on your card.

I just got hit with the TWRP can wipe your SD card bug

I decided to install Clean Rom 4.0 Dev edition so I did a quick tibu, then booted into twrp and made a nandroid of my current setup
I then went to install DE clearing caches and /data
I went to install the rom and it wasn't there
the only thing on my SD card was my backup and it was corrupted.
I plugged my phone in and mounted the sd card and my computer said it was unreadable so I had to format it
I love starting over

I had cwm originally and randomly lost files off my sd card or were corrupted after mounting as usb so switched to twrp and have had the same problems with losing random files and corruption of files. So I don't think it's specific to the recovery its something else that's causing it. Wish I new what it was because it's quite annoying. I've resorted to only transfering files via dropbox or lan with es file explorer but it's definitely a pain when transferring a Rom.
Sent from my Nocturnalized Beast

enabling titanium backup sync to dropbox saved my ass.
Titanium backup is the best andriod app I have ever bought, period.

gunnyman said:
enabling titanium backup sync to dropbox saved my ass.
Titanium backup is the best andriod app I have ever bought, period.
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QFT. while I've never had to pull a backup from the cloud I'm glad to have it as an option more than ever seeing as I no longer have an ext SD.
I also started syncing my photos to dropbox every day or so i can't lose those either.

gunnyman said:
enabling titanium backup sync to dropbox saved my ass.
Titanium backup is the best andrios app I have ever bought, period.
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I have it set up as well luckily that's one set files that I have never lost. It's weird there's no rhyme or reason to what gets wiped I've lost pictures data apps that I had saved copies of on my card data from apps. I just don't get it. I wonder if it's actually the internal sd card that's wonky or some way the usb is being handled when mounting.
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regP said:
QFT. while I've never had to pull a backup from the cloud I'm glad to have it as an option more than ever seeing as I no longer have an ext SD.
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Well I don't have to pull it from the cloud since it syncs to my desktop automatically but man it saves you from having to remember to do it.

E.Cadro said:
I have it set up as well luckily that's one set files that I have never lost. It's weird there's no rhyme or reason to what gets wiped I've lost pictures data apps that I had saved copies of on my card data from apps. I just don't get it. I wonder if it's actually the internal sd card that's wonky or some way the usb is being handled when mounting.
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I've wondered the same thing... It might not be recovery related since it happens with both.

That's odd, because I just flashed TWRP 2.1.7 yesterday and I was unable to wipe my SD card. I had to boot into the system and 'Delete Phone Storage' through the settings menu. Nothing would happen when I would try to wipe through TWRP.

afrat said:
That's odd, because I just flashed TWRP 2.1.7 yesterday and I was unable to wipe my SD card. I had to boot into the system and 'Delete Phone Storage' through the settings menu. Nothing would happen when I would try to wipe through TWRP.
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Lol your trying to wipe your sd card can't and ours are being wiped inadvertently
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gunnyman said:
I decided to install Clean Rom 4.0 Dev edition so I did a quick tibu, then booted into twrp and made a nandroid of my current setup
I then went to install DE clearing caches and /data
I went to install the rom and it wasn't there
the only thing on my SD card was my backup and it was corrupted.
I plugged my phone in and mounted the sd card and my computer said it was unreadable so I had to format it
I love starting over
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Go to cnet.com and download Recuva. Then do a deep scan and it will recover the stuff you lost... worked for me
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I had the same problems with my internal storage on HTC Touch Diamond. I lost a lot of files with that phone. With the HTC One X I have only lost a few Pictures that got corrupted, I think it all has to do with continuous flashing ROMs

Ahh, I hate this bug!! I've lost several things and have had tons of pics become corrupted.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

I just lost a few photo's today. First time I've encountered this bug. Guess its time to get dropbox and have it sync my photo's and tibu stuff.

I'm pretty damn paranoid, so I've started doing an SD Card dump right before flashing a ROM using ADB.
$ adb pull /sdcard/
Probably overkill, since I have almost everything important backed up somewhere, but I'd rather take the extra thirty minutes and make sure I don't lose anything permanently.

Only thing I was out was time. I back up my photos to drop box and Google plus.

gunnyman said:
Only thing I was out was time. I back up my photos to drop box and Google plus.
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Makes sense. Drop Box backup is the ****. :good:

Silellak said:
Makes sense. Drop Box backup is the ****. :good:
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indeed it is. I'm going to start putting my nandroids there too

Pumpiron579 said:
I had the same problems with my internal storage on HTC Touch Diamond. I lost a lot of files with that phone. With the HTC One X I have only lost a few Pictures that got corrupted, I think it all has to do with continuous flashing ROMs
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This is also my theory.
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gunnyman said:
indeed it is. I'm going to start putting my nandroids there too
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Is there a way to backup a whole folder with the dropbox phone app? Like... For instance I'd like to upload the entire TWRP folder. I couldn't find a way easily.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Is there a way to backup a whole folder with the dropbox phone app? Like... For instance I'd like to upload the entire TWRP folder. I couldn't find a way easily.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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I just drag them from my phone to my dropbox folder on the computer and it syncs
the downer is there's no way to move a whole folder from dropbox to the phone, from the phone

[Q] Wipe SD card or just delete folders back to stock?

Hi everyone,
I'm looking to remove some of my old excess folders off my SD Card and I was wondering if anyone knew what the stock folders are I should be keeping or if it's ok to wipe the SD card? Wasn't really sure if it was ok or not to do so and thought I should ask..
Thanks!

You can wipe the SD-card within android. Its safe and wont make the card unusable or anything like that.
Just remember to save the stuff you want to keep before formatting it

Thanks for the info. I wasn't so sure as I came from a HTC Desire and ended up using ROM's that dumped half the system onto the SD card so was a bit wary with that.. :S

CephiroX said:
Thanks for the info. I wasn't so sure as I came from a HTC Desire and ended up using ROM's that dumped half the system onto the SD card so was a bit wary with that.. :S
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I think any apps that is installed to sd will be deleted so make sure none are.

How?
How can I wipe the card?
I often tried some apps, and now I installed CM so it would be great to have an "empty" SD.
Is there any tool which logs all folders/files that have been created when an app has been installed?

Piccolo1986 said:
How can I wipe the card?
I often tried some apps, and now I installed CM so it would be great to have an "empty" SD.
Is there any tool which logs all folders/files that have been created when an app has been installed?
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Setting/storage and you should see it there.

Thanks
that was a good hint.
And what about a tool?

Piccolo1986 said:
that was a good hint.
And what about a tool?
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Em tool to do what?

I forgot to say
Like I said in my last post:
Is there any tool which logs all folders/files that have been created when an app has been installed?

Piccolo1986 said:
Like I said in my last post:
Is there any tool which logs all folders/files that have been created when an app has been installed?
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Think adb can do that but why would you need to know that?

i would make a back up of your sdcard to your pc before doing anything

Backup not the best solution...
especially when you "on the road". Sometimes when I'm outside (waiting for the bus or so) I've time to look around in the play store. Screenshots are nice, but it's always better when you try an app on your own.
But once installed you see "oh that one is crap" you want to uninstall it, but the folders that has been created are still there. So it would be nice if there would be a app that watches for the changings during installation and you are able to delete all the folders and files of the crappy app.

If you delete data before uninstalling the app everything should disappear.
Actually, I think its only if you uninstall through play store the data is kept.

TitaniumBackup will remove all of it when using it to uninstall stuff.