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HTC is releasing their own version of the unlocker. I'm a bit confused of the difference between the two. Which will be better?
www.anandtech.com/show/4573/htc-announces-webbased-bootloader-unlock-tool-for-htc-sensation
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Revolutionary is better for sure. Do you want to give HTC record of your unlock and grounds to automatically deny your warranty claim for clear hardware issues? I sure don't. I'd rather they have no idea that I'm unlocked.
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moto211 said:
Revolutionary is better for sure. Do you want to give HTC record of your unlock and grounds to automatically deny your warranty claim for clear hardware issues? I sure don't. I'd rather they have no idea that I'm unlocked.
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Does Revolutionary have the ability to relock the bootloader? Because once you unlock it your warranty is void no matter what. So this would be a major factor in determining which way to go. I would like to know as I just purchased my sensation yesterday.
Now on a side note I rooted my N1 just after it released. It had some hardware issues I sent it in under warranty and had no issues concerning the warranty and being unlocked. I would like to see what parts of the warranty void upon unlocking via HTCs method. If someone can post a link I would be interested to read up on this.
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I would say Revolutionary!
hTC updates - take ages..by the time they come out with any essentials updates, i had changed to another device.
Revolutionary - almost every single day. They listen to our feedbacks n always trying to improve for the community...
Therefore, Revolutionary FTW!
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I agree with everyone the revolution is better in every way.
Plus if it gets bricked for HTC its voided and they KNOW it
but for revolution they wont know so if its bricked just drown it or back over it and its unvoided
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Does Revolutionary have the ability to relock the bootloader? Because once you unlock it your warranty is void no matter what. So this would be a major factor in determining which way to go. I would like to know as I just purchased my sensation yesterday.
Now on a side note I rooted my N1 just after it released. It had some hardware issues I sent it in under warranty and had no issues concerning the warranty and being unlocked. I would like to see what parts of the warranty void upon unlocking via HTCs method. If someone can post a link I would be interested to read up on this.
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While Revolutionary doesn't per se, you can do it by simply flashing your stock ROM and switch secuflag back to 3 which will relock you to S-On. Details are in this sticky, oh and the cool thing is if you flash the stock RUU back your bootloader just says PVT Ship S-Off so it looks as if you got your Sensation that way haha
That is exactly what I did. s-off my device via revolutionary method then rooted and super CID. I then re-flashed stock ruu back and now I have stock s-off but with super CID. I'll probably changed it back to Asian CID just for software updates. If that is how software updates check for proper version updates.
the reason i want to return the phone is the proximity and light sensors stopped working after i received the OTA ICS update. i unlocked the phone and tried a few custom roms but none of them fixed the problem. so i relocked the bootloader and flashed my stock RUU so now its completely back to stock except in the bootloader screen it says "relocked" now instead of "locked". when i send it in will HTC make a big deal out of that? the phone is still s-on and everything.
Yup
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craven667 said:
Yup
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is there any way of getting it back to saying locked?
lowrider262 said:
is there any way of getting it back to saying locked?
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Did you unlock using HTC Dev?
kgs1992 said:
Did you unlock using HTC Dev?
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yes
lowrider262 said:
yes
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I'm sorry, but they will definitely know that you have unlocked the bootloader.
There may be workarounds, but I'm really sorry, I don't know any.
You could try your luck in the Unbrick IRC Channel
kgs1992 said:
I'm sorry, but they will definitely know that you have unlocked the bootloader.
There may be workarounds, but I'm really sorry, I don't know any.
You could try your luck in the Unbrick IRC Channel
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dang it, i had a feeling that would happen, shoulda just left it alone lol. oh well now to try and find a fix
lowrider262 said:
dang it, i had a feeling that would happen, shoulda just left it alone lol. oh well now to try and find a fix
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There maybe a way to show your Hboot as locked, but how can you tell for sure that HTC doesn't keep a track of the phones that have been unlocked using HTC Dev. You are literally telling them "Hey! I'm about to unlock my bootloader which is going to void my warranty!" I do suppose they keep a track of such things.
Try unlocking again and flash diffent firm and relock it on gb idk nice to see there stalking our phones
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Don't know if this works for the Sensation, but if someone is trying to go back to locked hboot, give it a try.
Go back to totally stock. Flash a RUU, preferably GB so that you have an earlier hboot that can be easily S-OFFed again.
fastboot oem write secureflag 3
Reboot and you should be S-ON again. AGAIN, MAKE SURE YOU ARE TOTALLY STOCK WITH A SHIP HBOOT OR YOU WILL BRICK.
Use revolutionary to S-OFF again. Hopefully, you will be locked at this point.
If not, repeat, but use JuopunutBear to S-OFF.
If you're still unlocked, this method doesn't work on the Sensation.
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In your case, try using JuopunutBear to S-OFF and see if it restores your bootloader to "locked"
Does it only say that for people who used HTC tool?
revolutionary does not unlock bootloader.
Why not just flash pg58 with stock hboot in it? Or better yet, I believe stock tmous ruu has leaked (you are on tmous, right?)
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Hi how do I make ny HTC one x look like when you first got it unrooted all of at&t apps .
Or can I send it to warranty rooted ?
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htcbrazilian said:
Hi how do I make ny HTC one x look like when you first got it unrooted all of at&t apps .
Or can I send it to warranty rooted ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880608&highlight=stock
The bootloader screen will forever say "RELOCKED" though.
Would HTC still repair it
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htcbrazilian said:
Would HTC still repair it
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I don't work for HTC so I can't tell you. Are you paying for service? Or using your warranty? If you're trying to use warranty, it was voided the second the BL was unlocked. You may luck out and they might not check or see it. What's the worst that could happen? They send it back and say they can't service it?
If you bought it from AT&T, return it to AT&T. There have been a bunch of reports by folks on here that have had warranty honored by AT&T even though the bootloader is RELOCKED. And haven't seen any reports of AT&T doing otherwise.
redpoint73 said:
If you bought it from AT&T, return it to AT&T. There have been a bunch of reports by folks on here that have had warranty honored by AT&T even though the bootloader is RELOCKED. And haven't seen any reports of AT&T doing otherwise.
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I am have done that and they(att) did not charge me
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relock, run update, been a while but if I recall hboot didn't sat re-locked.
HydroSkillet said:
relock, run update, been a while but if I recall hboot didn't sat re-locked.
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It will always only say RELOCKED. Only way for it to say LOCKED is if the bootloader was never unlocked. Some think the flag can be changed to LOCKED if we get S-Off. RUU will only remove the TAMPERED tag. It will not make it back to LOCKED.
With s-off we can make it say biscuits if we want
18th.abn said:
With s-off we can make it say biscuits if we want
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Niceppl should get some biscuits
Mmm... biscuits
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18th.abn said:
With s-off we can make it say biscuits if we want
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With s-off you can also change the boot splash.
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Unless it's bricked, most carriers will still honor the warranty on an unlocked phone.
wlmeng11 said:
With s-off you can also change the boot splash.
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but you can already change splash on certain hboot as it is.I was regretting unlocking my phone because it didn't seem to give advantage for much.
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bryyte said:
but you can already change splash on certain hboot as it is.I was regretting unlocking my phone because it didn't seem to give advantage for much.
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I was referring to htc devices in general.
I don't have the hox, so I don't know device specific stuff.
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Is there any way to S-OFF and root this phone without unlocking bootloader via www.htcdev.com?
I don't want to have ***UNLOCKED*** in my bootloader...
Usually, as you know, this is a huge problem when you selling a used phone...
mikronac.ns said:
Is there any way to S-OFF and root this phone without unlocking bootloader via www.htcdev.com?
I don't want to have ***UNLOCKED*** in my bootloader...
Usually, as you know, this is a huge problem when you selling a used phone...
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If you unlock and then S-Off, you can set it to say ***LOCKED*** instead of ***RELOCKED*** when you relock it. So yeah, take that route.
How to do that?
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How to do that?
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Not a clue, but people have done it. You can also remove the ***TAMPERED*** tag. I think that usaff22 knows.
OK, thanks... We will wait to someone give me a full info
If you search on the development sub-forum then I guarantee that you will find it.
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It involves partition editing. To write over those words. You better be good at that stuff, or else
I am not--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155955&page=7
That might help
usaff22 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155955&page=7
That might help
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maybe not as hard as i thought--
hi,
I had the same doubts...
ok, as far as I understand i need to:
1) unlock via htcdev
2) get supercid
3) s-off the phone
4) install any rom that I want (steps 2 & 3 are optional if I don't want to install boot.img after every rom I install)
5) if needed, relock the bootloader (via the thread you posted)
ok I understand that putting back "LOCKED" on bootloader is just for warranty purposes...but...
If I even relock the bootloader putting "LOCKED" status, HTC could always saw that I unlocked the phone since I unlocked it through HTCDEV and they have my serial...or not?? Am I missing something?
no-one?
icest0rm said:
no-one?
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Yes
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mikronac.ns said:
Yes
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yes is the answer to my previous post?
icest0rm said:
yes is the answer to my previous post?
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htc will know if you just moded partition to show locked status...
I decided to take a leap of faith and tried to unlock my bootloader using the HTCDev site and it worked. Would this make Firewater pointless?
Screenshots or any proof
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krazie1 said:
Screenshots or any proof
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Not sure what proof you want. I can give you a screenshot of the email I got from HTC with my unlock key in it.
Is there really any reason to use HTCDev since firewater can do it?
It just seems like it would make sense to unlock it using official means if it is an option. Not saying that Firewater will cause issues but workarounds can pose risks that could be avoided by using tools provided by HTC itself.
There is no reason to use the official HTC tool at all. I'm surprised it even works. Early tests by other users (incl myself) showed our devices being blocked on the site. Are you sure you have a Verizon HTC M8 as opposed to one for another carrier?
Anyway, with firewater, you shouldn't use it at all.
First, it voids your warranty. But most importantly of all, it does not give you S-off. Only bootloader unlock.
Firewater gives you both S-off and unlocked bootloader as well. There also have been no reports of any issues due to firewater. All it does is give you S-off. There are some legit dev phones out there that also have S-off; firewater just makes your phone equal to those dev ones.
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There is no reason to use the official HTC tool at all. I'm surprised it even works. Early tests by other users (incl myself) showed our devices being blocked on the site. Are you sure you have a Verizon HTC M8 as opposed to one for another carrier?
Anyway, with firewater, you shouldn't use it at all.
First, it voids your warranty. But most importantly of all, it does not give you S-off. Only bootloader unlock.
Firewater gives you both S-off and unlocked bootloader as well. There also have been no reports of any issues due to firewater. All it does is give you S-off. There are some legit dev phones out there that also have S-off; firewater just makes your phone equal to those dev ones.
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I want to make it clear that at no point was I saying that Firewater caused issues. I simply stated that any hack or unofficial tool COULD cause issues.
As for S-Off, what is the point when you have an unlocked bootloader?
I kinda sorta don't believe you. Oo Is yours Verizon?
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mchief298 said:
I kinda sorta don't believe you. Oo Is yours Verizon?
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Yes its Verizon. Simply go to the HTCDev site and submit your OEM device ID. You will get an email with your unlock blob. I applied my to unlock but you do not HAVE to apply yours.
Interesting. I took my daughter's M8 and tried to unlock at HTCDev and still a no go here.
sofla2 said:
Interesting. I took my daughter's M8 and tried to unlock at HTCDev and still a no go here.
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Not sure what proof to provide. Do I need to record my screen while I unlock my phone using the unlock_code.bin?
chriskader said:
Not sure what proof to provide. Do I need to record my screen while I unlock my phone using the unlock_code.bin?
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I didn't ask for proof. I simply stated that I tried to unlock my daughter's M8 at HTCDev and still received the error code.
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I didn't ask for proof. I simply stated that I tried to unlock my daughter's M8 at HTCDev and still received the error code.
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Do you get the error on the site?
I haven't tried mine but I read it wasn't working, which is why we have firewater. I'd love to give it a go again.
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putney1477 said:
I haven't tried mine but I read it wasn't working, which is why we have firewater. I'd love to give it a go again.
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I see no advantage to using the htcdev method, assuming that it really works (and it didn't work at least through when Firewater came out). That method wipes the phone AND the internal SD card. Firewater doesn't.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
chriskader said:
Not sure what proof to provide. Do I need to record my screen while I unlock my phone using the unlock_code.bin?
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Were you previously s-off? Changing mid or cid can allow a banned (read vzw) phone get a legit unlock token. This was the case on the one max too.
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dottat said:
Were you previously s-off? Changing mid or cid can allow a banned (read vzw) phone get a legit unlock token. This was the case on the one max too.
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This, the OP's signature says he is S-Off. OP, Post your CID and MID. If you are indeed already S-Off via firewater, as I suspect you are since that is the only way to gain S-Off, your bootloader was also already unlocked.
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It just seems like it would make sense to unlock it using official means if it is an option. Not saying that Firewater will cause issues but workarounds can pose risks that could be avoided by using tools provided by HTC itself.
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Did it say your warranty is now void and thanks for reporting to this site?
chriskader said:
As for S-Off, what is the point when you have an unlocked bootloader?
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?
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Keithn said:
Is there really any reason to use HTCDev since firewater can do it?
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Yes. It's cleaner.
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