What other carriers (anywhere not just USA) use AT&T 3G/4G data Frequencies? Basically where else in the world could one get 3G/4G data with an AT&T phone.
most of Canada,some in austraia and new zeland and some in south America. not sure about aisa. but I can tell you bell telus and rogers from Canada are all compatible. can't really name the ones in other countries but maybe someone else can help out.
Works for me here in Mexico, just had to add the proper APN for my carrier Telcel and its good to go, i think some central and south america countries too i had a friend from Argentina telling me he bought and Infuse also and its working good on his carrier Claro.
Works in India on a few networks. I was on two - Airtel and Tata, and it worked on both. Airtel used 900 GSM and Tata used 1900 GSM for 3G.
Thanks to everyone who has helped!
infuse use 850/1900/2100
and AT&T use 850/1900
and 2100 is used all over the world.
I don't know why american carrier use other frequencies
but except United States, all use 2100 for 3G
so, if you unlock your infuse, you can use it everywhere
jtha said:
infuse use 850/1900/2100
and AT&T use 850/1900
and 2100 is used all over the world.
I don't know why american carrier use other frequencies
but except United States, all use 2100 for 3G
so, if you unlock your infuse, you can use it everywhere
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Looks like you are referring to EU markets.
I was in India a couple months back, and my Infuse was on 1900 band on Tata network for 3G.
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Hi all,
I have this store near my place, he says that his nexus s can work on any Canadian carrier. He says that the nexus s is interchangeable between carriers in canada, that they all work on the same bands.
Is this true?
I am looking for one to work with my existing rogers 3G data/voice plan. He has one telus and one at&t nexus s.
Thanks
Heeter
Telus, Koodo, Rogers, Fido
ALL the SAME phone with the same bands SIM unlocked.
However...
WIND and Mobilicity use AWS so a standard US T-Mobile NS will only work on those networks. This is the same for Quebecor and Shaw (which has not launched yet). The 900, 1,00, and 2100 MHz 3G bands version is what is needed for these networks.
As posted earlier in the thread, Telus, Koodo, Rogers and Fido need the 850,1900 and 2100 MHz 3G Bands version.
I want to buy this device but it is overpriced here in the uk and t mobile in the usa have it a affordable price. I checked the bands and most uk phones have: 900, 1900 and 2100 for 3g
This one has : 1700 and 2100 for 3g
This concerns me a lot. Can I flash a radio from the original optimistic 2x or something to make it work in the uk? Do you think it will work on 3g out of the box? Some help please.
As you've noted T-Mobile uses non standard frequencies in the states. So, out of the box it's incompatible. As far as flashing an Optimus 2x radio, that appears to be a very bad idea due to file system differences.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the answer is no.
According to this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1305&MNC=CING
uk carriers use 2100 primarily and according to gsmarena the bands this phone supports are:
1700 and 2100 for 3g
Wouldn't it still work out of the box even if it supports 2100 band?
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Also according to this:
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps...ma/gb/17016/comb/&layer_id=951&lstCountry=275
Most uk networks use 2100 band as suggested by at&t . The 1700 band is used by t mo for 4g network according to engadget. Any change of opinion now?
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"Band I" is 2100 MHz, which is supported by the G2x and is used all over Europe and Asia.
and according to this http://www.phonearena.com/phones/T-Mobile-G2x_id5272
the G2X supports 2100 UMTS (3G) or am I missing something?
The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700). The G2x does not support AT&T’s 3G bands.
G2X spec sheet
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/T-Mobile_G2x_with_Google_FactSheet_FINAL.pdf
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
rashad1 said:
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Thanks for confirming
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
bdkinney said:
Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
jdaclutch said:
Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Yeah...now that's not quite right. Here's the deal:
Most of the world uses 2100 MHz 3G bidirectionally (for both sending and receiving data). This includes England, China, and Hong Kong.
In the U.S. AT&T uses Both 850 & 1900 MHz (depending on the coverage area) bidirectionally. Not compatible with "world standards". The reason you could use you iphone in China is because it has tri-band 3G. Not all AT&T phones support the 2100 MHz band.
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for uploads and 2100 MHz for downloading. However, all their current phones have the ability to use the 2100 MHz band bidirectionally when operating overseas.
So to sum it up T-Mobile phones will do 3G overseas, some AT&T Phones will work overseas, but most phones from overseas won't do 3G here.
I hope that makes things a bit more clear; and I apologize again for confusing T-mobile with AT&T in my earlier post.
Hi,
i live in argentina, and i found i dont have 3g coverage.
bands in argentina are http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps/network.php?cid=3206&cname=Argentina
Do anyone know if is there a way to config my xt720 to bands 850/1900?
tks!
There isn't anything to configure. The phone automatically defaults to the 850/1900 bands when 3G isn't available.
but if in my country bands ar 850/1900, why do i only have edge?
tutincho said:
but if in my country bands ar 850/1900, why do i only have edge?
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You probably won't ever get 3G due to different bands on the phone versus your country's. Edge only.
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You probably won't ever get 3G due to different bands on the phone versus your country's. Edge only.
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To expand on what the Rev said from what i know in North America all XT720s that were sold, were W-CDMA/AWS i.e. their 3G bands were 1700mhz down link and 2100mhz uplink. Although they did have quad band 2G i.e. GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
So if in Argentina they are using 3G frequencies 850mhz down link 1900mhz uplink then the xt720 will never get 3G HSPA, phones from the following carriers will work Telstra NextG phones (Australian), Rogers (Canadian), Bell New 3G (Canadian), Telus New 3G (Canadian), and AT&T (USA).
Hope this helps.
lynxz3 said:
To expand on what the Rev said from what i know in North America all XT720s that were sold, were W-CDMA/AWS i.e. their 3G bands were 1700mhz down link and 2100mhz uplink. Although they did have quad band 2G i.e. GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
So if in Argentina they are using 3G frequencies 850mhz down link 1900mhz uplink then the xt720 will never get 3G HSPA, phones from the following carriers will work Telstra NextG phones (Australian), Rogers (Canadian), Bell New 3G (Canadian), Telus New 3G (Canadian), and AT&T (USA).
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, I didn't know the specifics off the top of my head, I just knew it wasn't going to work.
Hi everyone.. I'm planning to get this device and use it outside the US (mainly China and Indonesia).
Will the 3G work in those 2 countries? From the specs sheet, I understand that MT4GS support UMTS 2100. So theoretically, there should be no problem, since China and Indonesia use UMTS 2100 band, but it would be better if someone with personal experience can confirm this.
Anyone here has any experience using MT4GS outside the US?
yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
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yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
mat_oli said:
I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
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why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
forzanetti said:
so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
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Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
And according this site (and a couple of others):
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
It's indeed the 2100 band.
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Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
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Great!! one less thing to worry then so I think there isn't any limitations if this device is used outside the US, as long as the UMTS band is correct.
Thanks a lot!
forzanetti said:
so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
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It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
mat_oli said:
It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
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Thanks for the info!! Now I feel more encouraged to get this device
I found this in the review section of this phone in phonearena :
Global travelers will like the handset very much since it can be used just about anywhere around the world for phone calls, but 3G and 4G data speeds can only be experience domestically through T-Mobile’s AWS band. However, you can still achieve 2G EDGE speeds with other network carriers.
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now I'm confused again
2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
Mistix said:
2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
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Hi Mistix.. thanks for your reply
Yes I'm aware about the AWS which uses the 1700/2100 band for their 3G and 4G, but according to phonearena, MT4GS supports the following band :
UMTS: 1700/2100, 2100
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which means besides supporting AWS (1700/2100), it also supports the "regular" 2100 UMTS band. The information could be wrong though..
but nldroid has stated that he has no problem using 3G in the Netherlands. And the last time I checked, the Netherlands still use the "regular" 2100 UMTS band (AWS is only available in the states and Canada).
Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
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Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
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Thanks for the pic! Looking forward to get my hand on this baby next month
I work for Tmous retail sales and we have never really been taught anything about bands. Ive been pretty curious myself since some customers come into the store with AT&t phones asking about tmo service. I have been instructed (by a fellow retail associate) to tell them that no At&t phone will ever have 3G on tmo ( I assume thats just the safe answer though).
real question!
in terms of 3G/4G (hspa+) what bands does tmous use?
same question for AT&t.
To tie that together. ex: If a phone from At&t hypothetically has capabilities to use the same bands as tmous and is unlocked, can it get 3G/4G service on tmous?
i did search around and didnt find a very clear answer so i figured i'd start a thread, im sure other noobs have the same question.
T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
The T-Mobile Vibrant actually has those AT&T bands too, if you SIM unlock the Vibrant, you can get 3G on AT&T.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/22/samsung-galaxy-unlockable-tmobile-vibrant-supports-att-3g/
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
nxt said:
T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
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Thanks for the clarification. In hopes that im not being a further nuisance, I was wondering, what about a phone that has 1 of the matching bands?
T-Mobile USA is using the 1700/2100 Mhz bands for 3G (UMTS)
T-Mobile Germany uses 1900/2100 Mhz for 3G (UMTS)
If you couldnt tell, im considering buying an iPhone (to develop on for fun). Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
DrewMullen said:
Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
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No it will not get 3G