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I'm so confused with all the lingo, root, kernel, s-off, ruu.
It just seems so overwelming. I don't think I want custom roms, all I want is att stuff removed, and faster data speeds.
And I'd like a way to return to stock in case I need to return the phone.
What phone are you coming from?
Read, as much as you can Google is your friend. Also if your having problems with goldcard checkout the unlockr. Setting up sdk isn't all that bad. This is coming from a renewed rookie with HTC phones because I've been away from adb for two years since I got rid of my dream and magic.
Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.
harlenm said:
Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.
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Just use the card that came with the phone for goldcard. Use the goldcard helper tool from the market, get the mcc 2 number from the tool, go to the link provided, insert the mcc 2 number into the box on the page where it asks for it, get the file that was emailed to you, download the hack kit in the stickied thread of development, after installing Android sdk, unzip the hack kit using 7zip and only 7zip into the tools folder located in the Android folder. From that point you are ready to create a goldcard. That's where the sticky thread is your friend.
I know it sounds like a lot and in the end once you read up and understand how to use adb you'll understand its not that bad. Remember i am a rookie as well with most of this and would be glad to help as you progress
I think creating the gold card seems like the easy step, found a program that will do it and upload it to phone without needing the sdk.
My concern is all the other stuff, different kernels, different radios, etc. Downgrading the radio loses sound, so then you have to upgrade it again, but then the sound isn't as good, etc.
Then someone posted the stock kernel, compared to a telus kernel, what's the difference, and why put one over the other?
harlenm said:
I think creating the gold card seems like the easy step, found a program that will do it and upload it to phone without needing the sdk.
My concern is all the other stuff, different kernels, different radios, etc. Downgrading the radio loses sound, so then you have to upgrade it again, but then the sound isn't as good, etc.
Then someone posted the stock kernel, compared to a telus kernel, what's the difference, and why put one over the other?
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The program doesn't work you need mcc2 number. The sound problem is a correlation of combining the dhd time with our kernel.
harlenm said:
Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.
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This will help with adb.Once you start tinkering you will figure it out quickly. As far as reading all the sound issues its really personal preference. You have to do these thing on your device and see if you have the same issue. Alot of the times you will find it that it comes down to different strokes for different folks. I myself have none of the issues that others have other than a weak external speaker. Reading is a great tool but dont get overwhelmed with the information your taking in because a good chunk will not pertain to you and your device. Just stick with the core information and what the op stated
The sound issue is the only thing that is not 100%, which will be fixed soon enough. We will get our own source soon enough, but for the time being dhd roms will do fine with either the stock or TELUS kernel. Personally the TELUS is better for fast data speeds.
harlenm said:
Coming from an iPhone. Don't understand anything about adb, sdk, terminal, etc.
Haven't tried making the gold card yet, ordered an sdcard but it hasn't come in yet.
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Just my two cents and I hope you don't take offense to this, but you picked the wrong phone to jump into rooting and customizing since it's a new phone and the forums aren't yet up to speed on info. I would first read up in the Rodgers Magic 32A forum on how gold cards work, recovery, fastboot, adb, and custom roms work - these phones are broadly used and have been around for a while too.
I've read the instructions in the hack kit, and I still dont' get it.
I need to download the sdk, found that at http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
It says Terminal on the phone, so I need to download a terminal app from the market?
The commands look simple enough if I can figure out how to do them.
Edit, also need to download HTC sync?
read the guide Ive listed on how to install adb on the sdk and you will be fine.
harlenm said:
I've read the instructions in the hack kit, and I still dont' get it.
I need to download the sdk, found that at http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
It says Terminal on the phone, so I need to download a terminal app from the market?
The commands look simple enough if I can figure out how to do them.
Edit, also need to download HTC sync?
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After the downgrade, terminal gets installed with the Rom. Always remember to enable debugging and charge only. The terminal part is the hardest. Also after receiving temproot exit out so you can go back into your sdk folder. All the hackerize commands are done from the kit location.
Well, I can't do this at work, was planning on trying, but the sdcard reader in my printer here doesn't work, so I'll have to try it with my laptop at home. Just wasted time downloading all the packages.
Still seems very cumbersome and confusing.
harlenm said:
Well, I can't do this at work, was planning on trying, but the sdcard reader in my printer here doesn't work, so I'll have to try it with my laptop at home. Just wasted time downloading all the packages.
Still seems very cumbersome and confusing.
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You don't even need the SD reader. Just leave it the phone.
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You don't even need the SD reader. Just leave it the phone.
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Oh.
Now, once I get this done, how do you flash the new ROM?
harlenm said:
Oh.
Now, once I get this done, how do you flash the new ROM?
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Once you have root, you can install ROM manager from the market. Run ROM manager, scroll to the bottom and tap on "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" and select 2.5.1.3 or 2.5.1.4. DO NOT INSTALL 3.0.0.5, it is NOT compatible with Froyo ROMs.
Once you tap one of those versions, it will automatically download and install ClockworkMod Recovery. Load the ROM you want to install onto your SD card, and in ROM manager, hit "reboot into recovery".
When you get to recovery, go to Backup/Restore and make a backup of your current ROM. Then do a data/cache wipe (factory restore) and then go to Install ZIP from SD Card and select your new ROM. Flash and you're on your merry way
harlenm said:
Oh.
Now, once I get this done, how do you flash the new ROM?
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Read the included readme file in the kit its part of step two. The kit is designed so all you need to do is follow the instructions and input a few commands and it pretty much does everything for you minus pushing the power button to get into hboot. The second hackerize command is the actual downgraded Rom.
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Once you have root, you can install ROM manager from the market. Run ROM manager, scroll to the bottom and tap on "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" and select 2.5.1.3 or 2.5.1.4. DO NOT INSTALL 3.0.0.5, it is NOT compatible with Froyo ROMs.
Once you tap one of those versions, it will automatically download and install ClockworkMod Recovery. Load the ROM you want to install onto your SD card, and in ROM manager, hit "reboot into recovery".
When you get to recovery, go to Backup/Restore and make a backup of your current ROM. Then do a data/cache wipe (factory restore) and then go to Install ZIP from SD Card and select your new ROM. Flash and you're on your merry way
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Thanks, gonna read up more and then go for it.
Okay, have found a lot of threads similar to this, but with key differences that are making the answers not-terribly-helpful in my particular circumstances. Not a comment on the answers, but enough that I feel the need to ask my question specifically.
I am trying to gain more control over my MyTouch 4g Slide (aka Doubleshot), obviously on T-Mobile.
It is running Android 2.3.4, and has hboot 1.45.0013. I have wiped it a few times in the process of fuxing with it, so right now I'm not worried about losing anything other than basic function (i.e., bricking it is still bad).
I have tried the zergrush exploit (it's been closed),
have managed to unlock the bootloader using the HTC unlock tool,
and have managed to flash the appropriate Clockworkmod recovery and get the blue menu to come up.
My overall goal isn't to do any major overhauls- I want to be able to allow some apps to turn my GPS on and off, clean out some bloatware, and put some new ringtones into the same folder as the stock ones. My understanding is that temporary root access is enough to do these things- go in and clean up, change some permissions on apps, then go back to being a normal user, just like with a well-managed Linux computer.
I just can't seem to get the next step to work.
My understanding is that I now somehow use Clockworkmod to install Superuser from the .zip archive. The options I get in the recovery screen are:
reboot system now
apply update from sdcard
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
install zip from sdcard
backup and restore
mounts and storage
advanced
power off
My impression is that I should be using "install zip from sdcard" to install Superuser, but when I select that, the menu just disappears, and I am left looking at the logo, with no further options. I have seen it implied that there should be choices about which zip to install- those never come up.
What am I missing? My google-fu is failing me in trying to find instructions or guides for this particular combination of limitations and progress.
EDIT TO ADD: Ah- found part of my problem... the recovery menu uses the camera button, not the power button. Still somewhat at a loss to see what's next. Installing from the SD card fails. Info in a second post.
Got the menu working, but now failing to install Superuser. I get the following output:
Mounting SYSTEM...
Deleting SYSTEM:bin/su...
Extracting files to SYSTEM...
Setting SYSTEM:bin/su permissions to 06755...
Creating SYSTEM:xbin/su symbolic link...
E:Error in /sdcard/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
(Status 0)
Installation aborted.
Now what?
I am seeing in other places that HBOOT 1.45.0013 can't be rooted. I've been trying for about 9 hours to do this. . .no luck, even with a variety of methods.
bummer.
I'm in the same boat as the both of you. Spent the last two hours and enough tabs in my browser that my music player was skipping when switching between them, and my machine is nothing to be scoffed at!
There just doesn't seem to be enough clear information about how to root this device, and with only 7 pages of development threads, it's gonna be hard to be told to search!
In recovery you use the trackpad to navigate, and select....also, why not just flash a pre rooted stock rom? Follow the directions in this thread, it will work with any rom, not just ICS roms. I used the instructions in this thread to install Bulletproof on my Bf's phone which was an insurance replacement, so it had the same hboot that you guys have, and S-on. It worked flawlessly, I am not sure why so many people are having such a hard time, because it worked the first time perfectly for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508556
Edit: Which recovery are you using?
Woot! Oops...
Well, I managed to root my phone... and then borked it through my own overexuberance. :headdesk: Oh well, I can fix it. Important part:
I finally found out what "Status 0" means- the zip you are trying to install wasn't signed properly. I re-downloaded, no luck. But there is an option to turn off signature checking in CWM, and that worked, after some fiddling- Superuser installed and worked fine. Not sure if re-downloading ended up being relevant or not.
So, you can root this version without flashing a new ROM.
That said, I think I probably did enough weirdness to mine that I will go for a new stock ROM, so much thanks to yellowjacket for posting that thread link. Removed HTC Sense, then somehow borked Go Launcher Ex, so my phone doesn't have a home screen and I can't get to the app I used to move stuff to fix it. Of course I never found a set of instructions for making a Nandroid backup until after I messed things up... Oh, well, time to go looking for the stock ROM.
Thanks all!
If anyone has a Nandroid backup or copy of the dead-standard out-of-the-box ROM for this phone, please let me know. All I am finding is modified versions. Can't find the base that they were made from, and even the most basic version says it requires S-OFF to install. :headdesk:
Do you specifically need a nandroid backup, or would a flashable ZIP do? Pointers to the latter are available.
Flashable zip would actually be preferable, and pointers would be very much appreciated. I know they have to be out there somewhere, I'm just not finding the right search terms to locate them among all the modified versions.
Look at this post in the developer reference thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17384145&postcount=7
(There's lots of stuff listed there, but look for the 400 MB+ images.)
NOTE: Some ZIP tools get confused by these signed ZIPs, so they might seem corrupt. Check the MD5s to see that you got a good download. 7Zip seems to deal with them OK if you want to look inside.
I have personally flashed the 1.28 and 1.55 ZIPs without incident, but I did check the MD5s.
Well, I was not able to restore the ROMS from the links wjcarpenter linked- everything worked fine, as far as I can tell, but the phone said the "updates" were older than what was originally installed, so the installation was aborted. Not sure how to fix/handle that.
For the moment, I have one of the cleaned-up ROMs that is very similar to stock, but I would really rather it not be obvious that I rooted the phone the second you start it up (the one I found has changed the startup animations), so I will keep looking.
If it's going to be obvious that I changed the ROM, I guess I might as well start looking for the best custom ROM... any suggestions as to which is the most stable?
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Well, I managed to root my phone... and then borked it through my own overexuberance. :headdesk: Oh well, I can fix it. Important part:
I finally found out what "Status 0" means- the zip you are trying to install wasn't signed properly. I re-downloaded, no luck. But there is an option to turn off signature checking in CWM, and that worked, after some fiddling- Superuser installed and worked fine. Not sure if re-downloading ended up being relevant or not.
So, you can root this version without flashing a new ROM.
That said, I think I probably did enough weirdness to mine that I will go for a new stock ROM, so much thanks to yellowjacket for posting that thread link. Removed HTC Sense, then somehow borked Go Launcher Ex, so my phone doesn't have a home screen and I can't get to the app I used to move stuff to fix it. Of course I never found a set of instructions for making a Nandroid backup until after I messed things up... Oh, well, time to go looking for the stock ROM.
Thanks all!
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Just think of it as a big learning experience! The first time I rooted a phone, I messed it up so much I had to keep flashing back to stock and rerooting at least 3 or 4 times. Thankfully I had a phone that was virtually unbrickable. It was a good learning experience though, and I now feel comfortable rooting and flashing on several different devices.
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Got the menu working, but now failing to install Superuser. I get the following output:
Mounting SYSTEM...
Deleting SYSTEM:bin/su...
Extracting files to SYSTEM...
Setting SYSTEM:bin/su permissions to 06755...
Creating SYSTEM:xbin/su symbolic link...
E:Error in /sdcard/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
(Status 0)
Installation aborted.
Now what?
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download from androidsu and either save it directly to the ROOT of your sdcard, or copy and paste to the root of your sd card. i always get that same error when i install superuser from a folder in my sd card.
Ok. I am trying to convert a very nice chinese rom for the samsung captivate, to have english on the ui buttons instead of chinese. I have an idea how to go along with this, and the software, wish me luck and I will keep you updated on my progress with the rom modding. I hope to upload a compleat rom which is satisfactory, soon'er or later. Alot of .apk modding, rom testing, and apk signing will be needed on my part. I'll try to keep it nice like they made it, and the english support is all ready there just not on all the .apk applications included, that's my main goal to get the application buttons 100% ok!.
Frustrating. I just got the rom onto my captivate and the top bar was gone, so that mean's deleteing launguage settings wont take away the chinese interface words on the buttons and also destroy's the top bar. : \ I'm working on it though, I mean it seem's to be an application only issue but I don't want to rid the rom of applications just to get rid of chinese words for english words on some buttons. Any ideas? sry for my spelling. Btw I took those launguages out of SystemUI.apk & GoogleServicesFramework.apk, and i did it with Apk Manager here on windows 7.
Well that project went down the tolit, i'm too new to be trying that just yet, i'm just messing around with adb in cmd on windows for now, it's fun trying to figure things out and mess with my phone remotely! i'll let you guy's know if i find out any thing usful, thank you! : )
Keep at it. A long journey starts with but a single step..:good:
Thank you Grant Barker. I will keep at it, my brother I use his usb cable, he get's annoyed when his hp touchpad is getting low on charge and I got the cable lol, trying to figure out and test stuff with android. I test alot of rom's I find online and a few I really like, i'm more in for flashing a new rom than using one which is strange, also more into screwing around with the files than the normal day to day end user would ever dare doing. I like the stock captivate rom, I see issues though, the old JF6 version (stock) ran smooth as silk with a few audio glitches at boot and a lil lag at first run, but otherwise an ok version even today it still run's well for day to day tasks, the kk4 version (stock) is another story, at boot it has very bad visual lagging, i mean once it get's going it's ok but still there is alot of lagging with tasks, I think the hardware was better off with the intended first rom and JF6 kernel, but then there is the outdated issue with JF6 and i'd like to see a rom made from that version to flash and test, also i want to try and make a rom my self from that JF6 stock version better suited for today's online and offline world. Clean and simple that's how I like it. :fingers-crossed:
you seem young, keep at it...you will be a recognized dev in no time :laugh:
Ok! here is a modded .apk you can install in the system/app directory of you're captivate with kk4 rom, please remember to delete or backup the SystemUI.apk from you're system/app directory before! trying this if you want to test my first fairly simple attempt using android sdk and other tools. :highfive: Hope you like it! might even get a laugh.
I forgot to say thank's 2 up ^ thanks. I have a question. How do I get a rom i've modified with the kernel into a zip ready to be flashed, using cwm or any other custom recovery for installing .zip ready made roms. I just don't know how to intigrate all that data wipe and install stuff into a .zip file, do I just? put the main / directory into the zip and hope cwm does the rest lol, I know adb can push the files and folders but it has issues trying to delete un-empty folders which is a pain in the rear end, it like says file system is read read only or says folder not empty when i try to delete a folder but it docent care if i delete system files. Under c:\adb shell , then $ rmdir /system/app , it babbles on about the folder not being empty, even after installing the latist superuser binaries and superuser.apk and busybox with all its jargon tool addons or whatever there called. I just want any advice where to look or how to try setting up a .zip with a rom i've modified, so it can just be installed through cwm or any others like that. Thanks! : )
I'm messing with this rom at the moment http://www.downloads.bombaymobiles.in/index.php?dir=Samsung%20Flash%20files/I897/&file=I897UCJE5.zip it's the erliest version I could find for captivate that's downloadable. If you can find a download link which works for I897UCJE4.tar or .rar or .zip.. my mind will be blown..
Hmm I wonder what this is :highfive: oh ya! it's the KB1 stock kernel :silly: It was so easy to get I dunno why no one else had it. Oh! and what's this :silly: http://www.mediafire.com/?i47m7nmcnd66zgr Could it really be the I897UCKB1 Rom in .tar format, my captivate say's yes! :highfive: it is!
Ive already flashed my phone acouple of times over the past couple years. But I tried downloading GloriousOverDose V5. At my current location the internet connection is horribly slow.
I have red voodoo so I know its not a mounting issue
Wipe Data
Wipe Cache
Install zip from SD, selecting file
starting unpacking
Installation Aborted: Bad
Im guessing the Download got messed up because of connection speed? Or am I just missing something here?
Thanks
there are issues with it but it shouldnt abort installation out right, i would assume a bad download and would check the md5sum
If you need im sure i or another can post a mirror, i like dev-host for the only limitation is speed but they never take down link and well theyre free!
but yeah GOV5 is a work in progress right now and you may need to flash ROM, then flash the package again, this time skipping ROM and doing the rest... not fun and it does appear to be a mount issue but im in the middle of too many projjects right now to finish fixing it... maybe the weekend...
no worries
No Worries Mate, Aint in no rush. Having some phone issues so i thought I would swap to something more updated. I'll just try something else for a couple days then come back and try again.
Thanks again
Found the Fault
i tried a new download and tada, didnt notice before but the download never "finished" the zip was still spereated into a zip.part file and never combined... *sigh* second download was a success, installed with no issues... But with the aroma installer i find myself wiping it every 10 minutes to look at all the options lol.
Is aroma only available on a fresh boot? or is there a backdoor to add/delete without reflashing the rom?
work in progress
Love the concept of this. Cant wait to see when up and running perfectly. Is there issues with aroma installer? I select the programs i want but none seem to make them to the phone? lol or is it me again?
Don't use the download from first post, use the one on the second or so page I posted.
There is an issue right now, first flash ROM and nothing else, then exit aroma but no need to reboot. After this choose flash zip again, say no to flashing ROM and here choose what you want to install. There is an issue with the mounts that is connected partly to how aroma works and partly to how the recovery for this phone works,
I'm working on this and may in the end have to build a whole new recovery.
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I don't even have any idea how to search for this or even ask about it. I'll try!
Okay, so after having trouble with 4.2.2, I decided to flash an older rom. I had some problems with wifi logo turning white and not being able to connect to Google, so I searched for a new gapps to flash. I was having computer trouble, so I downloaded it onto my phone, it saved to the downloads folder. I also had noticed none of my other files were in there, which kinda freaked me out, but the same amount of space was being used on my internal memory (I don't have a SD card). Anyway, I went to go flash it with twrp and went to downloads and saw all my OLD files, which didn't include the new gapps download. So, I went to root explorer after rebooting and moved the gapps to my root folder, then restarted to recovery and it's not there. The only thing I can think of is when I'm in recovery, it just says sdcard, when I'm in the system, it says sdcard0.
Does anyone know what's going on and maybe something I can search for? This is weird. My files are clearly there and I just can't access them... even with full root access!
Sorry if this didn't make a lot of sense, I have no idea what's going on at all and I'm also kinda tired. Hope you can help!
------ I found the answer here: androidforums .... /verizon-galaxy-nexus-all-things-root/649940-4-2-sdcard-sdcard-0-observation.html
My tired brain finally kicked in and I searched sdcard0 and figured it out. Now, I guess I have to move stuff so I can use the old os. I'm only not deleting the post because it might helps someone. And I'm sure modifying links isn't allowed but I can't link with less than 10 posts and I wanna make sure people get the answer, so... yeah... Add com in the middle.