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i just bought my tilt, just flashed to dutty v3 room and now i get a weird text every 4 mins. the number is 111145643 and it says wvi1 1.1 1111. is there anyway i can stop that text?
thanks!
Hmm I think you should call your carrier. Unless your phone is somehow sending itself a message, the kaiser probably isn't the culprit.
did you have express mail setup? if so you have to reinstall it on the phone then log onto the express mail server and delete the connection that you made for push e-mail or turn off push, then uninstall express mail on the phone and reset. you should be OK
^^I stand corrected!
I think that is for the IM+ program that ATT provides on their roms for im. The company is called wireless village i believe. I was bugged by it for a while, well the full hour I had my device before I flashed schaps!
I use Palringo until trillian gets a clue about wireless devices. It can sync with AIM, Yahoo, MSN, Gtalk, and others.
BTW, It uses data instead of sms to send messages like the IM+ does.
i had the same question but alltheway awnsered it for me already... its kind of a side effect of flashing sometimes. it will go away on its own. i think i got it like 8 times and havent had it since.
gimini said:
i had the same question but alltheway awnsered it for me already... its kind of a side effect of flashing sometimes. it will go away on its own. i think i got it like 8 times and havent had it since.
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its not necessarily a side affect of flashing, it can go away if you reinstall the app that was on the old rom that is causing it... its something that was installed on your previous rom that used silent sms to alert the program to perform a specific function. LIke PTT, expressmail, or the cing/att IM client (to tired to remember the name)... When these programs are running your phone will recieve a ghost message that is only read by the app to wake it up. Alot of these problems were seen in the hermes thread and PTT.
Nope....That is what you get when someone tries to PTT you. Without PTT you get an SMS message. The way PTT works is basically Voice MMS messaging with a trigger to open & close the voice connection (PTT Button) Those digits you see are altered SMS addresses, they are altered so that PTT can recognize them & shift it from SMS to PTT.
Agin, whenever you kill PTT, you lose the ability to decipher the modified address & hence, it's received as a MMS instead. The reason you keep getting it is because the request that was sent retries a certain number of times before failing.
why dont you ask that question in the correct thread....the one that deals with your rom??
TRY TO THINK BEFORE EVERY FILLING THE FORUM WITH THREADS THAT COULD BE ASKED ELSEWHERE
Martinhdk said:
why dont you ask that question in the correct thread....the one that deals with your rom??
TRY TO THINK BEFORE EVERY FILLING THE FORUM WITH THREADS THAT COULD BE ASKED ELSEWHERE
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Well, that would make Dutty's never ending post even longer. We should save that post for other problems directly regarding the rom, and comments on new updates.
Beside, I believe the problem has nothing to do with Dutty's V3, it work flawlessly for me.
I am just so tired of more or less stupid questions that constantly are repeated because newies does not take their time and READ before starting threads and asking questions. This has to stay in the DUTTY thread - my opinion.
We shouldnt end up in a new HERMES forum with all the noise and bad mouth it had last year
I do not have anything against stupid questions in general - just do some searching and reading first..
So welcome all - lets use SEARCH some more..
Martinhdk said:
I am just so tired of more or less stupid questions that constantly are repeated because newies does not take their time and READ before starting threads and asking questions. This has to stay in the DUTTY thread - my opinion.
We shouldnt end up in a new HERMES forum with all the noise and bad mouth it had last year
I do not have anything against stupid questions in general - just do some searching and reading first..
So welcome all - lets use SEARCH some more..
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Martinhdk said:
why dont you ask that question in the correct thread....the one that deals with your rom??
TRY TO THINK BEFORE EVERY FILLING THE FORUM WITH THREADS THAT COULD BE ASKED ELSEWHERE
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Wow man take a breath! Your gonna get an ulcer.
to his defense i havn't seen this question in dutty's thread at all. and i've only seen it once but not onthe kairser forums. so cut him a lil slack. plus we all learn something from it...ptt or express mail can cause this. thats sure something i didnt know. hope all is well now...enjoy your device sir.
This question was answered on the hermes forum. That is how I solved my issue. I still believe it deals with the IM app from att that uses wireless village. Ill try to find some links to help get it solved.
I couldnt find the thread in the hermes section that described the issue. It might be from OZ messanger and not IM+. It is the version that comes preinstalled from the ATT rom. It is designed to use sms to im therefore making ATT more money.
I had the same text messages when I first got the Kaiser and ran the im software. I believe my test message had a different set of numbers at the end.
Here is a link to Wireless Village. They are a group that is promoting interoperability between handsets for a variety of functions (IM included).
http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/affiliates/wv/wvindex.html
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I found this article from the cingular...er...ATT forums. This is the issue I originally had and the same text from the same number. The issue below is because OZ messenger was closed and not properly exited.
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=samsung&message.id=16362
I spent all day yesterday figuring this out. I downloaded and install the .cab file to my storage card and then logged into the IM program (OZ). After signing out, it kept me logged into all 3 services (Yahoo, AIM, and MSN) and then I proceeded to receive 40+ text (SMS) messages b/c it was trying to "reach me". After sitting on the phone for about an hour and half with a great Data Service Tech Rep, we figured it out and now the IM program works just fine.
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I'm getting the message from 1111470400 and all it says is WVCI 1.1 333.
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LISTEN IT KEEPS TEXTING ME AND IT WONT STOP.
HERE IS THE NUMBER ITS FROM AND WHAT IT SAYS
1111470600
WVCI 1.1 333
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From the 8525 forum
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=samsung&thread.id=33273&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Martinhdk said:
I am just so tired of more or less stupid questions that constantly are repeated because newies does not take their time and READ before starting threads and asking questions. This has to stay in the DUTTY thread - my opinion.
We shouldnt end up in a new HERMES forum with all the noise and bad mouth it had last year
I do not have anything against stupid questions in general - just do some searching and reading first..
So welcome all - lets use SEARCH some more..
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You know - Generally I don't get into these types of little spit / spat arguments - but today you have caught me at the perfect time.
Martinhdk - you are the type of person that makes dealing with the public so hard. You complain about things that aren't even worth complaining about. Sure - it was Dutty's ROM, but in essence had absolutely nothing to do with the ROM, it's probably the push to talk causing the issue. (Because I have the same issue) You had to try and prove yourself by spouting off and telling someone how to run things, when really, you were in the wrong.
Sometimes people get anxious and maybe don't do as much searching as they possibly should. Big DEAL - you are in a forum and since forums began it has been a problem. Does this require that you lay into the guy and tell him how stupid his question is? NO, it doesn't. You must be one very unhappy individual who probably lives a very lonely life - do us all a favor, in the future; keep your comments to yourself and let the moderators do their job.
I apologize to XDA - I know this thread / forum is not used for this. I just feel that sometimes these guys who insult someone younger / or maybe just not as experienced have a tendency to scare these guys away and I don't feel that is right.
i had the same exprience , its not the problem with your carrier , its the ATT IM+ app , if you exit the app w/o logging out of messenger app you keep getting this wierd msg , i tried unintsallng the app but no luck , finally i relashed a new rom and the error went away.
SOLUTION
What you do is you sign in to AIM at a desktop computer, the screenname you signed in on your phone. than a message will pop up saying you are signed in at two places and if you reply to that window with "1" it will sign you out at the other location, your phone. that should stop the messages.
the AIM service on your phone used txt msgs and when you close the program without first signing out. it usually causes that problem.
Stealth message?
I've heard of this so called "stealth" text message used by the carriers to send commands to the phone. My next question is - is it possible to send one of these so called "Stealth" messages from a phone to anther phone - with the proper instructions encoded in the text msg to automatically appear either on the users screen or in their inbox? I have heard this is possible but am very interested if someone could provide me a little more insight on it....
It's possible, it's been done. Would you like to know how? How do you want to send the malicious code? BT? WIFI? MMS? Maybe I can get you my bank account number & ssn while I'm at it?
There are other forums for that type of stuff, some proggies to do this are actually security auditing tools. Most all means though require the user to acknowledge receipt of whatever you send & then require them to execute it. However, I sincerely doubt that anyone here is going to give you any means to do something that may harm someone's device. Sure, you just want to play a prank, but how about the guy you then teach it to?
Hi all, was wondering if I could enlist your help?
I have an Orange Tytn II and would like some feedback as to what people think is
- the best regeditor
- the best set of useful plugins - including updating to WM6.1
- the best source of skins
for the Tytn II
thank you.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated...
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Hi all, was wondering if I could enlist your help?
I have an Orange Tytn II and would like to;
- find available plugins which might include - skins and ways to upload, - Change the battery icon to a useful icon of a battery - rather than Orange one
- Change the time that the screen stays on when I'm on a call - so a reg editor
- Maybe upgrade to WM6.1 (without changing Orange menus etc)
Any thoughts would be much appreciated...
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All your questions are answered here
And the first topics in first page of the kaiser forum.
I dont want to sound like a ass, but did you look around at all first? All of that is easy to find, well not the upgrade because you will not get that util your service provider comes out with that unless you want a new cooked rom.
Ok..sorry, obviously not clear enough.
I would like some feedback as to what people think is
- the best regeditor
- the best set of useful plugins - including updating to WM6.1
- the best source of skins
for the Tytn II
thank you.
PS - have been reading this forum for hours and as I am sure you can appreciate I am trying to cut through the chaff, not unreasonable wouldn't you say?
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Ok..sorry, obviously not clear enough.
I would like some feedback as to what people think is
- the best regeditor
- the best set of useful plugins - including updating to WM6.1
- the best source of skins
for the Tytn II
thank you.
PS - have been reading this forum for hours and as I am sure you can appreciate I am trying to cut through the chaff, not unreasonable wouldn't you say?
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NO. Search and read some more before you ask...
Now ya all ganging up on me...
easy isn't it to say "RTFM".... and makes you look so good too...
I bet the Wiki will find you all the answers, and if not, the search will.
But seriously, quoting the post above you, or quoting in a thread with one single topic is almost as annoying...
richardS said:
Ok..sorry, obviously not clear enough.
I would like some feedback as to what people think is
- the best regeditor
- the best set of useful plugins - including updating to WM6.1
- the best source of skins
for the Tytn II
thank you.
PS - have been reading this forum for hours and as I am sure you can appreciate I am trying to cut through the chaff, not unreasonable wouldn't you say?
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1) FdcSoft Task Manager
2) You need to Flash your rom to upgrade to 6.1. (so you will lose your orange stuff).
3) Varies on what you like. You will have to search on this, im affraid.
I think it makes you look good too that you don't care enough to do your own legwork. There is more than "hours" of reading here... try DAYS.
PS - have been reading this forum for hours and as I am sure you can appreciate I am trying to cut through the chaff, not unreasonable wouldn't you say?
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Cut through the chaff? Maybe now you can see why there is SOOO much chaff! So yes, it is unreasonable to just start a thread because you don't care to search, try, dig deeper and go for it.
There are skins threads out the butt around here.
A regedit cab? Try PHM RegEdit
Cabs??? What do you call useful? How would WE know what YOU think is useful? There are 1,000's of cabs to install. Are you into photos? Music? GPS? Games? Putty? Contacts? What is it that YOU want?
Find your cabs by searching.... here is a starting point for you:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=c.../forum.xda-developers.com&as_rights=&safe=off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316183
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=248409
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308773
How many pages shall I find for you? You didn't specify.
If you don't feel like helping yourself, you can start a new thread or reply to this one.
Okay, here is your one free "I'm too lazy to search & read" answer. I personally would've saved it for a "my device is bricked" question, but hey!
I use resco explorer. It is in my opinion the best file explorer & as a bonus it comes with one of the best & friendliest to use registry explorers & editors. Resco also allows you to easily network you computer to your PPC.
I get my full length battery bar, enhcanced scrolling & a much more effective X-button using SPB Pocket Plus. I have deleted the today plug-in portion of the app. so the size is more reasonable. This will also give you multi-tab browsing capability & allow you to use the ok button or X-button to only close one PIE page at a time.
There are tons of theme skins available, but why you would ask about those is beyond me. What's good depends on what you like because they range from plain black to cars to naked women. So, you're on your own there. Start with the "Show us your today screen thread" there are links to tens of thousands of themes there.
Also, get kaiser tweak & the current xml file for it.
WM6.1: If you're not up to flashing yet, you can still add some of the functionality of 6.1 to your stock rom. I suggest getting the PIE6.1 cab file. This will add zoom & overview capability to you current PIE edition. Also take a look at the current Arcsoft 5.0 version. This will add the Voicemail MMS option to MMS text messaging. (as of yet it still won't give you threaded messaging).
A hint for the future. Always search & read first. You can use search, then find a thread & once in the thread there is a search this thread button that will further help you slim down the amount of reading you have to do, it's called "search this thread" & will only return results for the thread you're currently in.
Also use the exclusion feature of advanced search. Highlight the forums that are pertinent to what you're asking. That way you don't get Blue Angel returns for your Kaiser question. I have over three hundred posts. If you look at my posts I don't think I've ever been flamed & I've helped several people with problems even from day one, because maybe I just read an answer that was no help to me, but was exactly what the next guy was looking for. It doesn't pay to be selfish here because everyone has issues, not just you & we've all had to read & work through them. What makes you able to say, hey I deserve an answer without reading (cut through the chaff) when most everyone else has taken the hard path & learned along the way.
Believe me that the reading will pay off in spades. You WILL have MORE problems with your Kaiser. Nature of the beast. I can't tell you how many times I've answered my own question because something I'd read earlier popped back into my mind. Reading will save you time in the long run & helps to keep the boards free of clutter.
That said, good luck with your new Kaiser.
It is just me, or does anyone else receive SPAM email in their personal email accounts?
Hey Grizzz,
Dang man we're opposites! You burn him down then soften the landing, where I like to raise him up then take out the knees! Either way it makes much more sense to do it one of those two ways.
Sure, I know the Noobie needs to have his wrist smacked, but why not do it in a way that ends the thread, like you or I do. Just reprimanding the kiddie does nothing but waste space. So help a Noobie out, take him under your wing & show him how things are done. Don't just reprimand him.
Maybe somew of the +1000 post old timers used to be like us too? Could they have become callus to where they came from? Except of course peep's like cmonex, Jockey, Dutty, Meinyysis, Olipro (I think they were all spawn with a pda in there hand & I heard that Oli's middle name was CE, lol...
You are right. But in the "old" days - AKA Hermes Forum one year ago FLAMING was hard and cruel . A noooob got FLAMED if he had not done his homework - and I find it was actually OK.
I remember reading for DAYS to find out how to FLASH, and IF I had any questions - I asked in a PM or in the specific thread....
I remember a long discussion about having limits for newies so they could not write in the Forum for some time after they joined to make sure they used some time reading before asking the same questions again and again...
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You are right. But in the "old" days - AKA Hermes Forum one year ago FLAMING was hard and cruel . A noooob got FLAMED if he had not done his homework - and I find it was actually OK.
I remember reading for DAYS to find out how to FLASH, and IF I had any questions - I asked in a PM or in the specific thread....
I remember a long discussion about having limits for newies so they could not write in the Forum for some time after they joined to make sure they used some time reading before asking the same questions again and again...
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Yeah, I remember lurking in Hermes afraid to ask. I once even PM'd Meinyysis & bit my nails for days hoping that the response wouldn't be "Go Die". Not that he'd ever do anything like that, but Hermes forum was brutal at times.
I dont understand why people are hesitating to help instead enjoy having the attitude and reply harsh. If a thread is unnecessary, then the moderator can lock the thread.
This person was looking for some openion. He is not asking how to install something.
1) If you dont want to reply, ignore the post
2) If you care this site and feel the thread is unnecessary, PM mod and ask him to lock the thread
3) To control these kinds of thread and you really get annoyed to answer question which you asked when you were actually a newbee, try to organize this site. Evaluate the members before they join.
One smart person gave the link for search. What an attitude. I am not sure what he is thinking about himself. I seriously hate the attitude of some people here.
MartinH - Please dont feel that all the posts are directed to you.
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Now ya all ganging up on me...
easy isn't it to say "RTFM".... and makes you look so good too...
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Ah, to live life unencumbered with things like common sense...
In newbie's defense...
I haven't asked any questions and I search the threads and wiki's, but I have to say that this forum is not the easiest thing to find anything in because every thread is packed full of non sense that has nothing to do with the topic. The guy simply asked if there was a way to find plugins and such.
Give the guy a break and just send him a link . I wish there was a better search engine on this forum, but there isn't so I continue to read...and read and read...
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I haven't asked any questions and I search the threads and wiki's, but I have to say that this forum is not the easiest thing to find anything in because every thread is packed full of non sense that has nothing to do with the topic. The guy simply asked if there was a way to find plugins and such.
Give the guy a break and just send him a link . I wish there was a better search engine on this forum, but there isn't so I continue to read...and read and read...
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vBulletin has a bad search function itself. However there's a advance google search that correctly search the site,
i have the tytn ii and am very new to it
im looking to put message/alert tones on but dont know where to put them..
ive got a few good alerts that id like to put there....ie. new email/message that sort of stuff
please could someone show me the way to go on
thanks in advance
I am a member of various forums, and mod two with more members than this forum. Here's my thoughts;
This forum is full of useful info, but it's also buried amongst huge piles of crap and spam
1) vBulletin software sucks...try IP.B
2) If you feel the urge to reply, reply with something useful
3) If you feel the thread is a waste of time don't add your spam to it. It makes you look more of an arse than the poster; Martinhdk and we3zy
4) Post counts mean nothing, see point 3)
for the persons who actually added useful info to this thread, then thank you, you know who you are.
To the Mods..I've copy and pasted the useful info, so by all means delete this thread, as no one found it useful but me... and save this forum getting more cluttered.
ive downloaded couple songs to device via windows media but how do i set them as ring tones? and how do you change the msg tone??
Thank you
What type of phone do you have???
daznufc said:
ive downloaded couple songs to device via windows media but how do i set them as ring tones? and how do you change the msg tone??
Thank you
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Let me do that for you.
denco7 said:
Let me do that for you.
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lmao this one is one of the best!
you can put your ringtone files in /Windows.. then go to start/settings/sounds¬ifications/notifications/
choose which event you'd like to change and viola
denco7 said:
Let me do that for you.
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This is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time. I saved this link to my favorites so that I can start using it on people lol
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Let me do that for you.
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I love it
Cheers,
Its great, except this is the questions and answers section, saying google it (without even a proper answer in the list) doesn't necessarily get the job done.
"set ringtone ppc" does the job proper. Everyone knows where google is, they probably used it to find this site. The Purpose of the q&a section is not to promote google traffic. If you are going to refer someone somewhere, please make sure you refering them to exactly the right place.
@questioner
Here are some pieces of software that help you set and further customize windows mobile beyond what it is native to:
http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/pocket-pc/ppc-tag/Ringtones
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Its great, except this is the questions and answers section, saying google it (without even a proper answer in the list) doesn't necessarily get the job done.
"set ringtone ppc" does the job proper. Everyone knows where google is, they probably used it to find this site. The Purpose of the q&a section is not to promote google traffic. If you are going to refer someone somewhere, please make sure you refering them to exactly the right place.
@questioner
Here are some pieces of software that help you set and further customize windows mobile beyond what it is native to:
http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/pocket-pc/ppc-tag/Ringtones
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I wasn't planning on using it in the Q&A Section of course -
Being a team player!
But it will be fun to use in other cases sometimes. I will of course change the auto google search to be relavant to the topic of discussion and make sure that it directs to helpful links. All in fun
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ive downloaded couple songs to device via windows media but how do i set them as ring tones? and how do you change the msg tone??
Thank you
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I know with my device - Audio Manager has the feature to set MP3 as ringtone.
You can follwo advice above also - . I suggest using a trimmer program to cut the MP3 to save space on your device though.
Another cool app you might want to take a look at for MP3 ring tones is the mp3 ringtone randomizer found at this link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370527
just direct the program to the specified folder with your mp3 ringtones and it will automatically randomize your ringtone for each call. I love this.
joel2009 said:
Its great, except this is the questions and answers section, saying google it (without even a proper answer in the list) doesn't necessarily get the job done.
"set ringtone ppc" does the job proper. Everyone knows where google is, they probably used it to find this site. The Purpose of the q&a section is not to promote google traffic. If you are going to refer someone somewhere, please make sure you refering them to exactly the right place
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Sorry, just trying to be funny, but the first link in the list tells him how to set an MP3 as a ring tone, and the second link in the list tells them how to set a message alert. First two links answered both his questions. What could be better than that ?
This is question and answers, but even so, come on . That is Cell phone 101 , read the manual, do a site search ( I have seen that question a hundred times ) make an effort. In some countries they prohibit you from ever owning a PDA again, for those questions.
Just , seriously, for clarification, are those the types of questions that Q & A forum is for ?
Yup - Any and every member needs to feel that they can ask any question - no matter what - even extreem "Noob" questions in the Q&A section without being flammed. It is asked that every member respect this and if answering a question in the Q&A Section that you don't just say "Search" or "Read the WIKI" but at least provide links to WIKI if you are referring to this. I personally don't see the harm in the link you provided "although funny" serves two purposes. You didn't flame the OP for asking silly question but provided a useful (and funny) link that pointed him in the right direction to answer his question and aslo made a statement that a simple search would have answered the question. I see no harm in that either as there are a lot of people who do not take the time to search for themselves or they just don't know what keywords to use in the search field. (You also provided hints on what kind of search words to use) When I answer questions in the Q&A Section, I Provide links to where they can find their answer to their question or just sometimes answer it right there it it is an easy question; however, after answering I sometimes point out that searching using certain keywords would have yielded results (I like your way better) There are a lot of questions asked that seem rather simple and "Noobish" to us, but to beginner's they need to be shown how to properly use this forum sometimes and I think that the Q&A section is a wonderful thing for everyone because, there is so much to learn and it can be very overwhelming especially for new commers.
This should work for you...
Following the raptious support and humiliation ive suffered, i guess i can only blame myself for not only including what phone i have (htc touch hd) but more so not taking the time to research such questions properly!
Unfortunately i havent had 5 mins to myself to play with all areas of the phone, but now ive managed to sort the ringtone situation out, aided by the mp3 trimmer!
I guess its easy for those high up on knowledge to look down and laugh when you dont know jack, but hey done now, although saying that, i cant find where i can possibly delete some of the ringtones/beeps that come as standard, maybe someone could help me out there? again would be appreciated.
daznufc said:
I guess its easy for those high up on knowledge to look down and laugh when you dont know jack, but hey done now,
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Firstly, have a sense of humor dude, or you won't last very long here
Secondly, find those files in your ringtone folder with file explorer, or in your windows folder, file explorer>my device>windows your files will be in there.
I did laugh at some of the replies mate dont worry, and thank you for your help though, i did try deleting the tones but kept coming up "error deleting file" so i cant delete anyway but thanx
daznufc said:
I did laugh at some of the replies mate dont worry, and thank you for your help though, i did try deleting the tones but kept coming up "error deleting file" so i cant delete anyway but thanx
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The " base " ringtones that come with the rom, are written into the rom and cannot be deleted. All other tone and notifications can be added and deleted anytime.
alright cheers, but i set couple songs to be ringtones, ive since deleted them from windows media library and on file explorer on the phone, but still they show up as available to choose as a tone????
Yes but did you delete them from the /windows folder, that is where they are played from.
Then Soft reset.
yep i did that, and still there available to choose as tones!
Hey everyone,
a user from the android-hilfe.de forum mentioned the idea of an app that i found very interesting. I then started implementing stuff and here i want to present you the first usable beta version of the app.
It is a community quiz. You can post quiz questions, other users answer them and place their bid on their answer. At the end you close the question with the correct answer and everyone is rewarded according to their bids.
Please help beta testing that app. Please note that in this very first beta, no work has been done for layout and design. See it as a functional prototype. Although i would be very thankful for design/layout ideas, maybe some even wants to help me?
I'm really looking forward to your feedback
Here is the link to a simple beta page that i hacked together: http://quizzer-android.appspot.com
And of course the corresponding QR code:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
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FC on clicking questions.
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good concept for an app, will probably be pretty fun when its finished, but right now the app is extremely unstable, sometimes it just exits right after I opened it, it always force closes when it tries to load the "by date" list in the "list of questions" section. The "by potsize" list usually works though that sometimes crashes too, in addition to all that the app seems to sometimes crash at completely random times.
In running the app on the LG Optimus 2x Phone, running CM7 Nightly build 21.
ps: on the registration part of the app, you only ask for the password once, its pretty common to ask for the password twice to avoid people mistyping the password, this does't really bother me that much but when you are typing on the android virtual keyboard it pretty easy to mistype something and not notice it, before you try to login to your app account.
ps2: If you don't mind me asking, I'm a bit curious about how you store account information, do you store the email & password in plain text? or do you hash & salt them? I'm just curious because I don't like to use services that doesn't protect their user data properly.
There was a FC-bug when displaying a question without any tag. Please reinstall with the new version (same url).
I think once there are a wider range of questions it will be better (I know thatis on us, the users) .
I am also interested in knowing how my information is being stored.
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It takes time for me to make up all the false answers to make funnier quizzes.
It allowed 0 QZR for a bid.
Admob area's size need to be fixed.
Anyway, I will love it when it's all finished.
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gmail seems to categorize your emails as spam, just thought you would like to know.
oh and btw, not to be rude or anything but it would be nice if you could actually give us some kinda response to the feedback we have given you instead of just completely ignoring it.
Hey everybody,
it has been two busy days for me, unfortunately not two busy Android days... I really thank you for you feedback so far and i am excitingly reading through the notification mails as they arrive. I just didn't have the time to answer or even code on the project.
@mikael, is this really the level you want continue this conversation? I do also have a reallife besides Android, sorry. Did you ever try to get one of your cars throught german TÜV? Then you know what is was doing the past two days...
I'll get back to you guys tomorrow and answer all the questions
Goddchen
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@mikael, is this really the level you want continue this conversation? I do also have a reallife besides Android, sorry. Did you ever try to get one of your cars throught german TÜV? Then you know what is was doing the past two days...
Goddchen
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sorry, as I said it was not meant as an insult, I do understand that you probably have other non android related stuff to do, It just that when you posted a post after I posted my feedback without responding at all, it seemed like you were intentionally ignoring my feedback, but if thats not he case then sorry I misunderstood you, I'm usually a pretty nice guy so please don't get the wrong idea, I have nothing against you or anything like that.
Ok guys, here we go
Sorry that i weren't able to respond in the past two days, you already know why It was hard to find the time to fix that annoying FC bug when opening the questions list but i thought that was more important at that time then responding here since it renders the app useless.
Ok let's start
FC on clicking questions.
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Should be fixed in the current version
good concept for an app, will probably be pretty fun when its finished, but right now the app is extremely unstable, sometimes it just exits right after I opened it, it always force closes when it tries to load the "by date" list in the "list of questions" section. The "by potsize" list usually works though that sometimes crashes too, in addition to all that the app seems to sometimes crash at completely random times.
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There was an additional bug in the update code for the header of the main screen. Hopefully that is fixed now too and you won't experience those random FCs.
ps: on the registration part of the app, you only ask for the password once, its pretty common to ask for the password twice to avoid people mistyping the password, this does't really bother me that much but when you are typing on the android virtual keyboard it pretty easy to mistype something and not notice it, before you try to login to your app account.
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Good idea, will definitely integrate it
If you don't mind me asking, I'm a bit curious about how you store account information, do you store the email & password in plain text? or do you hash & salt them? I'm just curious because I don't like to use services that doesn't protect their user data properly.
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The password is hashed on your phone so that it never get's transmitted over the network in plain text and i can't see your plaintext password either. The email is stored as plaintext so that i can send you a mail if anything important is going on (like yesterdays mail about that critical bugfix). The backend of the app is hosted on GoogleAppEngine by the way. Feel free to suggest any other strategies on storing or transmitting values. The values that are stored for a user are: your activation token, an active flag, answer count, question count, key of your avatar in the gae blogstore, mail, nickname, pass (hash), and your QZRs.
It allowed 0 QZR for a bid.
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damn, thanks for the note.
Admob area's size need to be fixed.
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What do you mean?
gmail seems to categorize your emails as spam, just thought you would like to know.
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damn, will have a look at this. They arrive just fine in my gmail inbox.
And a question from my side:
I have also implement a function for sending mass in-app notifications (appear on your notification screen in the app). Which way to be informed about critical updates do you prefer? mail or in-app notification. In one of the next versions i will add an optional background service that shows incoming notification on the phone's notification bar, too.
Looking forward to read your responses Goddchen
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Looking forward to read your responses Goddchen
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as for the admob thing I'm guessing what todayist meant was that when the ad placeholder was displayed in the the top of your app it was wider than the app itself which allowed you to scroll within the admob object, but this only seems to happens with the placeholder ad, real ads seems to work as they should.
as for the notification thing I don't mind getting them by email, but there are a lot of people that probably do mind that, so if I were you I'd implement some preference thing that allowed a user to choose between email notifications and in app notifications.
I also have a couple of questions/feature requests:
first of all I think it would be nice it the person that has created a question would be able to actually see what people have answered on the question, that would be useful information to see whether or not the question was to hard or too easy.
in addition I'm wondering how you are going to stop people from screwing around with the questions, because as it is right now, you rely on the people creating questions to actually include and choose the right answer, somebody could easily screw people by simply choosing the wrong answer as the right answer, doing that could probably also be used cheat.
I also think that when a question is closed the users that answered on that question should be able to see what the right answer was, maybe you could even add a "report wrong answer" button that, if enough people pressed it would make a mod check whether the answer was actually correct, and if it wan't the people answering on the question should be refunded the game money that they bet on the question.
I know that would probably be a bit complicated but it would decrease the problem of people cheating by choosing the wrong answer as the right answer.
in addition to all that I have a question, its pretty obvious that acquiring QZRs is pretty important in this game (you even plan to allow people to buy QZRs using paypal and in-app purchase) but my question is, what is the point of the QZRs right now they can only be used to place bets, do you plan on adding some kind of store or reward stuff that can only be bught/unlocked by using QZR?
as for the admob thing I'm guessing what todayist meant was that when the ad placeholder was displayed in the the top of your app it was wider than the app itself which allowed you to scroll within the admob object, but this only seems to happens with the placeholder ad, real ads seems to work as they should.
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strange i have set a max height now so that this shouldn't happen again
as for the notification thing I don't mind getting them by email, but there are a lot of people that probably do mind that, so if I were you I'd implement some preference thing that allowed a user to choose between email notifications and in app notifications.
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In latest dev version a setting has been added to the profile to choose between notification/mail/both
I also have a couple of questions/feature requests:
first of all I think it would be nice it the person that has created a question would be able to actually see what people have answered on the question, that would be useful information to see whether or not the question was to hard or too easy.
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available in beta2 a pie chart with the answers and their counts
in addition I'm wondering how you are going to stop people from screwing around with the questions, because as it is right now, you rely on the people creating questions to actually include and choose the right answer, somebody could easily screw people by simply choosing the wrong answer as the right answer, doing that could probably also be used cheat.
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Good point. But to solve this? Forcing the set the correct answer on question creation? Any other ideas?
I also think that when a question is closed the users that answered on that question should be able to see what the right answer was, maybe you could even add a "report wrong answer" button that, if enough people pressed it would make a mod check whether the answer was actually correct, and if it wan't the people answering on the question should be refunded the game money that they bet on the question.
I know that would probably be a bit complicated but it would decrease the problem of people cheating by choosing the wrong answer as the right answer.
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displaying the correct answer on closed questions is available in beta2. I'm working on the report button
in addition to all that I have a question, its pretty obvious that acquiring QZRs is pretty important in this game (you even plan to allow people to buy QZRs using paypal and in-app purchase) but my question is, what is the point of the QZRs right now they can only be used to place bets, do you plan on adding some kind of store or reward stuff that can only be bught/unlocked by using QZR?
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Not sure how to do it exactly but in the future i'd like to give users additional benefits for their QZRs besides being on top of the leaderboard. Any ideas how to do it?
I really wanna thank you for your feedback. It has helped me a lot in the development for beta2. And i will make sure that most if not all of it will be available in beta3
Goddchen
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I really wanna thank you for your feedback. It has helped me a lot in the development for beta2. And i will make sure that most if not all of it will be available in beta3
Goddchen
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no problem
I do actually have some feedback about beta2 as well, primarily its seems like a good update, but there are still some things that bother me, first of all, after the beta2 update one of my questions seems to have become corrupted somehow.
The question I'm referring to is the "is the official name of android 3.1 icecream sandwich" question that I created under the user name mikael. The question has 2 answers, "True" and "False", but after the beta2 update my question now has 3 answers according to the pi-chart, the new option that suddenly appeared was "" in other word an empty string, currently 1 person has answered True, one has answered False, and 6 has answered "", which confused me since "" is not actually something you can select when you answer the question.
But I figured that out when I tried to close the answer, if I try to close the answer while the False otpion is selected the confirmation dialgue asks if I want to select "null" as the correct answer, the same happens if I try to select True as an answer, in other words both the true and the false answer point to the null string, which means that If anyone anwered the question after this bug occured their answer would be registered as null, instead of the option they actually selected, which expalins why 6 people apperantly answered "null". I have no idea what caused that bug, but I'm guessing its a database issue of some kind, so it something you will have to take a look at.
other than that I have another complaint, and I know that this is intentional but I think that allowing questions to stay live infinitely until they are closed is a bad idea, primarily because a lot of the questions seems to have been abandoned completely which means that everybody that answered on those questions basically just threw their game money away.
I think there should some time limit to when you have to close your question, something like 1 week or perhaps one month if you think that one week is too short. I have currently answered 7 questions on your app but only 2 of them has been closed, the other questions seem to have been abandoned by the question creator.
other than that though the app seems pretty good, I really appreciate the hard work you are putting into this app and I hope I don't put too much work on your shoulders with all of my complaints, questions and feature requests.
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I do actually have some feedback about beta2 as well, primarily its seems like a good update, but there are still some things that bother me, first of all, after the beta2 update one of my questions seems to have become corrupted somehow.
The question I'm referring to is the "is the official name of android 3.1 icecream sandwich" question that I created under the user name mikael. The question has 2 answers, "True" and "False", but after the beta2 update my question now has 3 answers according to the pi-chart, the new option that suddenly appeared was "" in other word an empty string, currently 1 person has answered True, one has answered False, and 6 has answered "", which confused me since "" is not actually something you can select when you answer the question.
But I figured that out when I tried to close the answer, if I try to close the answer while the False otpion is selected the confirmation dialgue asks if I want to select "null" as the correct answer, the same happens if I try to select True as an answer, in other words both the true and the false answer point to the null string, which means that If anyone anwered the question after this bug occured their answer would be registered as null, instead of the option they actually selected, which expalins why 6 people apperantly answered "null". I have no idea what caused that bug, but I'm guessing its a database issue of some kind, so it something you will have to take a look at.
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That bug got introduced in beta2 and fixed in beta2.1 update. I'm really sorry.
other than that I have another complaint, and I know that this is intentional but I think that allowing questions to stay live infinitely until they are closed is a bad idea, primarily because a lot of the questions seems to have been abandoned completely which means that everybody that answered on those questions basically just threw their game money away.
I think there should some time limit to when you have to close your question, something like 1 week or perhaps one month if you think that one week is too short. I have currently answered 7 questions on your app but only 2 of them has been closed, the other questions seem to have been abandoned by the question creator.
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Yeah that really is a big problem that is bothering me for days now. beta3 (which will be released today) introduces the 3 other limit types (days, date, answers). Those will be fine and exactly what you are explaining. I am unsure if i should keep the unlimited option in the app. Do you think it would be a good idea to remove it completely?
other than that though the app seems pretty good, I really appreciate the hard work you are putting into this app and I hope I don't put too much work on your shoulders with all of my complaints, questions and feature requests.
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You are not putting too much work on my shoulders. I am happy about every feedback that i can get. Keep up giving me work!
Goddchen
Yesterday i was thinking about how to make the release to the market. I want the beta testers to have a bonus for their work and help. So this is what i have come up with for a possible release to the android market:
Reset all beta tester accounts
Give all beta tester accounts 50 bonus QZRs
Remove all answers from all questions
Keep the questions so that there are some initial release questions
Make those questions owned by my account so that abandoned questions won't be a problem.
Do you have any suggestions to this?
Goddchen
Just uploaded beta3
http://quizzer-android.appspot.com/
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Yesterday i was thinking about how to make the release to the market. I want the beta testers to have a bonus for their work and help. So this is what i have come up with for a possible release to the android market:
Reset all beta tester accounts
Give all beta tester accounts 50 bonus QZRs
Remove all answers from all questions
Keep the questions so that there are some initial release questions
Make those questions owned by my account so that abandoned questions won't be a problem.
Do you have any suggestions to this?
Goddchen
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sounds pretty good to me, but if you are expecting a lot of new users and questions after making the app available on the market then wouldn't it be a good idea to get some extra moderators to moderate the questions? Maybe you should pick some of the beta testers to be mods. thats your choice though, other than that I can't think of anything else to do before you put the app on the market.
oh and btw I am still receiving "null" answers on some of my questions which probably means that there are still someone who use the old app, would it be possible to somehow block "null" answers on the server side, so that so that people who still use the old version would not be able to submit answers without updating the app.
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sounds pretty good to me, but if you are expecting a lot of new users and questions after making the app available on the market then wouldn't it be a good idea to get some extra moderators to moderate the questions? Maybe you should pick some of the beta testers to be mods. thats your choice though, other than that I can't think of anything else to do before you put the app on the market.
oh and btw I am still receiving "null" answers on some of my questions which probably means that there are still someone who use the old app, would it be possible to somehow block "null" answers on the server side, so that so that people who still use the old version would not be able to submit answers without updating the app.
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Good point, i just pushed the update to the server, "" is now not allowed anymore.
Good point with the moderators. I can use any help Anyone interested?
Greets, Goddchen
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Good point, i just pushed the update to the server, "" is now not allowed anymore.
Good point with the moderators. I can use any help Anyone interested?
Greets, Goddchen
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I wouldn't mind helping you I have plenty of free time and as you have probably noticed I'm a pretty tech-savy guy, so I think I would be a pretty good moderator.
one more quation: why does everytime that I want to post something I need to fill the answer of a captcha? it's extreamly annoying! don't you think your security is just a little over the top?
and look at this: "To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed. . I mean come on! for seriously?!
Dude, this "over the top" security is in place and this forum still gets ridiculous spam.
I was done with the "new user" thing within a day. I never complained I did something crazy - I answered people's questions. And the day I joined I was an even bigger n00b - so unless you're the n00biest n00b in all of n00bdom you should be able to do that, too.
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one more quation: why does everytime that I want to post something I need to fill the answer of a captcha? it's extreamly annoying! don't you think your security is just a little over the top?
and look at this: "To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed. . I mean come on! for seriously?!
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Both the captcha and the 5 minute limit between posts are to stop spam, especially form automated spam bots. Based on past history they are remarkably effective at stopping unwanted spam. Don't worry, the captcha and the 5 minute limit will go away soon.
Thanks for understanding about the temporary inconvenience, they are really necessary!
Mod y u no close this thing down!?
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