ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
wifi calling is a free utility with this phone I thought (stock or not, doesn't matter) the tether is something they are cracking down on, ways around it with root and something to do with chrome look in the threads around about tethering stopped.
so if i used a wifi tethering app i would not need to have tethering on my plan with t-mobile?
they may still catch it and block you but I read there is a setting oyou can change within your desktop browser to allow it.
you mean the browser on the device you are connecting to your phone?
I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
Just port your number to Google Voice and use Groove IP or Talkatone, currently the top VoIP apps for Android.
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I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
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that makes the most sense and i have also read that about changing the user agent string. but if im tethering an android tablet would there be anything to change? that was my goal with wifi tethering, use my phone as a hotspot for my tablet (when i finally get one)
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ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
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T-Mobile is cracking down lately. Regardless of what ROM you are running, if you drop your free tethering plan, you are going to have to screw around with changing the User Agent on your laptop/tablet to avoid being blocked.
I use my phone for tethering with the tablet. You'll use the 5gb once you start doin it. They charge for the tethering plan now, so you're better off leaving it so you'll be grandfathered in for next upgrade.
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Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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You may not always be near a WiFi hotspot. The park, the beach, working in your car, etc.
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Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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there are two ways to tether a device, usb and wifi. usb is obvious, you connect your phone to your laptop and your laptop uses your phone like a modem or router to get internet access
wifi hotspot is the same just through wifi, its like your wireless router at home
think usb tethering=network cable, wifi tethering=wireless router
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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i think it doesnt matter
but some devices cant connect to a wifi hotspot, granted most laptops or handheld devices do have wifi, some older laptops may not and may be able to use usb tethering. you can also use it on a pc that probably doesnt have wifi
Ah alright, never used either of them so wasn't sure why everything I see is about tethering on the phone and nothing about the hotspot
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no worries, they are in the same place in the settings, under tethering and wifi hotspot, they kinda do the same thing. i use my wifi hotspot with my kindle fire
I believe on stock ROMs (including rooted), unless you freeze or uninstall some app that TMobile installed that monitors whether you're using tethering or hotspotting. That's their easy way to detect whether you're tethering, they may also sniff your packets for the user agent info, but I'm not sure if they go through that much trouble. Besides most data plans have limits now, they shouldn't care how those gigabytes are used.
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I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
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In more recent stock ROMs the message has changed to read, "may use minutes with certain plans." As I said, at least as recently as January, free Wi-Fi Calling was a no-charge add-on to the plan -- just call up customer service and ask to have it turned on. (I hadn't bothered before then because I never came close to using up all my minutes, but in January I added my son to my family plan when he switched over from AT&T, and at that point it became important. )
Has anyone been able to tether from this phone without using the data from the tethering bucket?
In other words, Were you able to tether from it and use the data from the data bucket?
I have unlimited data with 3gb of tether. I would use the data from my unlimited data bucket to tether.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can use easytether however the full version is a paid app...this is confirmed to work with my older t-mobile grandfathered account which has unlimited 3g/h+ and no hotspot/tethering. It requires running an app on the pc side since it uses adb to build the connection. (usb and under windows also bluetooth).
Were you able to create a new APN by clicking on the + sign in the "tethering and hotspot" section?
You can just use the official lollipop tether. Doesn't count towards t-mobile tether data usage. Pulled down 25 gigs yesterday with no issues
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I use the AT&T s7 on cricket and I have a reoccurring issue with the mobile hotspot that I need help with. With no rhyme or reason the Hotspot will work one day and then the next day I get an error message "to enable mobile hotpot go to at&t.com to activate service". The next time it will work, does anybody have a suggestion on how to get this to work all the time. Thanks
They told me at cricket that the AT&T s7 on cricket will not tether. I can't even sign up for it on my line.
You may want to try FoxFi, its on the app store. I know it works with the Verizon S7 to enable the tethering while bypassing the carrier checks.
Foxfi does not work with Sprint.
Tethering w/T-Mobile & EasyTether now counted as tethering (SIM1/SIM2 issue or DPI)?
Hi Everyone,
Been using my OP6 and loving it on TMobile. I noticed, as with other unlocked phones, tethering with EasyTether USB does not get detected as tethering...until today. For example, last month I had 0.0GB Tethering and did occasionally tether with Easy Tether.
My cable modem was acting up today and I switched to Easy Tether to do a WebEx video call (and forgot about it)...and happened to check and they counted 1.1 GB of tethering in 4 hours -- ouch!
The only change was I switched the SIM card to SIM slot 1 a few days ago, as it had been in SIM 2 because of some VM clearing issue I read about.
I am wondering if they detected tethering in because of SIM1 vs. SIM2, or did deep packet inspection and picked something up?
BTW...I also noticed today that tethering was slower than it usually was...not throughput which is usually 70-80Gbits around here, but more latency (like they were monitoring something).
Has anyone gotten WiFi Tether Router working on this phone? Any other thoughts?
BTW -- I did switch back to SIM2 because my VM's have not been getting erased since using SIM1. Also rooted on OOS 5.1.9 if that matters.
I also have a 3 year VPN subscription so I can avoid DPI but it's a hassle...
MW
How are you using it? Without a vpn or with a vpn? Because I have read Sprint and T-Mobile are really looking at vpn usage, And T-mobile has been warning people and Sprint counting as hotspot. I personally on my own if no one knows about this would run it over a https tunnel, then your vpn is hidden the software is called stunnel. Many vpn providers use stunnel now, you just have to enable it.
Just noticed it has been awhile since they were last on here.
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How are you using it? Without a vpn or with a vpn? Because I have read Sprint and T-Mobile are really looking at vpn usage, And T-mobile has been warning people and Sprint counting as hotspot. I personally on my own if no one knows about this would run it over a https tunnel, then your vpn is hidden the software is called stunnel. Many vpn providers use stunnel now, you just have to enable it.
Just noticed it has been awhile since they were last on here.
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This will cover you 95% f the time, and you don't even need VPN or EasyTether:
1) Install VPN Hotspot (great open source app), use it to turn on system WiFi tethering, and then route all the traffic over WAN0 even if you are not using a VPN.
2) Note that root su "Settings put global tether_dun_required = 0" should do the same thing, but you can do both to be sure.
3) Install Change TTL, set enable on boot, and tell it to set TTL to 64.
Now occasionally, T-Mobile will still detect some tethering, but it only picks up maybe 5%, and even if you go over the limit they don't seem to be able to throttle since your traffic is routed over the non tethering APN. They may also be detecting some because I am not sure if Change TTL supports IPV6...the IPV6 TTL setting is Hop Limit or HL and since TMobile uses IPv6 by default...? To test this if you care, you could setup an IPv4 APN.
Regarding VPN -- I think they may automatically count this as tether, but I don't really know. I have NordVPN and a PPTP VPN to our home and vacation home and could test further, but I haven't because you don't really need a VPN.
Hope this helps,
MW
What is the limit on tethering? I've never run into a problem but don't use it much either.
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What is the limit on tethering? I've never run into a problem but don't use it much either.
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On my plan TMobile 1+ for business it is 10G before throttling.
One month my home internet was down and I was tethering and had switched to iDrive cloud backup from CrashPlan so for two days it was just blasting data through the tethering connection. It registered 35.1 GB Tethering and 389 GB of non-tethering (nearly all tethering) and was still not throttling at all.
Besides that one special case, I have never registered more than 1 or 2GB tethering using the method outlined above even though I have probably used well over 10 a few times....
MW
Sounds like I don't need to worry about it then. I only use it for my android deck in my truck. Mostly music
I'm using my safelink wireless simcard in my AT&T note 8 phone. When I try to turn on the hotspot I get the message saying "mobile hotspot unavailable. You need a data plan on att network ect...." Clearly I'm not able to contact att to add a data plan when I dont have service with them in the first place. The only wat I can tether is using my pdanet app. I want to use the mobile hotspot icon? Can any1 help me please?
Yes, my friend had problem with hotspot on unlocked att but could not find the solution
Package Disabler Pro is $3 but after removing bloatware I am able to use hotspot on Cricket.