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Hello All,
Purchased an U S Cellular HTC Touch Pro via CL,mainly for using as a gps unit while motorcycling. Now I decide I may as well try Google Voice to utilize the WM6.1 funcionality a little more. Got my NEW Google Voice number activated no probs.
Download iDialer, iContact,and Greenbutton and installed,,looks very slick!
I guess I was not looking far enough ahead,as I am not a real phone junkie,I have to admit.
I added the parameters for my GV account with the handy config.cab that you generate on the Idialer website,,which is pretty sweet in itself. BUT,,, I do not have an actual data plan,,,AKA: phone is not activated...
Problem: I have my GV number forwarded to my home phone number,and realize now that this will not work for people being able to call me on my Touch Pro phone via GV while I'm on the road.( I mistakenly set the GV number up as the TP phone number on this device)
Call me stupid. What do I need to do to be able to 'forward' my GV number to this Touch Pro phone? Is there any free DID? numbers I can get to associate to this phone so as long as I have an WIFI connection I can either make or get calls made on this phone?
I have read so many various VOIP articles on this and am more confused now than I was 5 days ago..
I am sure this has been hashed a zillion times,but I honestly could not find a step.1,,step.2,,step.3,, how to accomplish this.
Thanks in Advance.
Barry
I can take no credit for this, since my sole contribution is to report it on xdadevelopers, and to have tried that it actually work.
The major breakthrough to make this happen was the developers of MJMD5; DTM, Stewart, netdata, az1234 and teddy_b that resides/ed on magicjacksupport.
read more about the code here, notably pages 3- 7: MJMD5 concept and coding.
The original softphone code is by Regis Montoya, alias r3gis.3R, and his crew: CSipSimple
It has been modified to support MagicJack in collaboration with Spider210: CSipSimpleMJMD5
r3gis made the following remark:
Magic Jack authentication method is now integrated to the trunk of the android port of pjsip. As consequence all future release of CSipSimple will include the Magic Jack feature
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CSipSimple now also have 4G support. Current release is 0.00-13-07, you can find the latest developers build here: d/l latest rev.
The concept has been tested both on 2.2 and 2.1.
The easiest way to obtain your MJ Sip credentials is:
MagicSipac, by kiler129 based on genexweb and stroths work
a variation made by Michael LaSalvia, alias genxweb, based on initial work by stroths is MJSIP - updated method 10/22/2010
for more detailed info of how to use this, see MJSIP details
And, if you like the product, don't be shy. Support the developers Donate!
Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to attach the files, why you have to go and get them yourselves in the links above
Good Luck,
arc
THIS IS AN AWESOME ARTICLE!!!
thanks to the devs and this poster for getting this info and app out!!!
i dont think alot of people understand what it does....YET.
skype charges i think $30.00 for your online number and $2.99mo for unlimited calls/recieve to usa and canada.....$3.00 * 12months = $36.00 + $30.00 for online number - $66.00
with this app you go buy MagicJack at walmart for $19.99 and you get your online number and 12months call/recieve to usa and canada.
ONE more thing....you can take your cellphone with you and use it on ANY open WIFI
Magicjack DONGLE = you have to have a pc.
cant beat that....but the app it self is having call problems with my evo over wifi.
if my screen goes dark the call starts breaking up real bad...dont know why it does....prob just a bug.
also when i am connected and i keep tapping my screen to keep it awake (and stay in call) the call loudness/quality isnt that great....not sure why.
i am over wifi so i should be able to pick good settings in the menu but not really sure what i need to pick
if someone could tell me what to put in that app to improve the loudness when on speaker phone and off speaker phone i would appreciate it.
thanks again to the devs and this poster for putting the info out.
this really should be a sticky i think as its cheaper then anything out there if you "do not have cell service"
great for ppl with wifi only.
What's a magicjack?
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stroths said:
What's a magicjack?
Sent from my Evo 4g using Tapatalk
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http://www.magicjack.com/5/index.asp
I had magicjack for two years. Worked great. I would sign up again if magicjack works on Android.
It does work on android. I use it in conjunction with google voice to allow me to sill receive calls when I don't have any cell signal but do have wifi.
All I had to do was add my magic jack number as a forwarding option in google voice. Then when I am somewhere without cell service, I connect to wifi, bring up the google voice setup web page and check the check box to enable forwarding to the mj number. So when someone calls my normal number.... No signal... Straight to google voice... Rings my magic jack number... Rings on my wifi connected android phone.
mburris said:
It does work on android. I use it in conjunction with google voice to allow me to sill receive calls when I don't have any cell signal but do have wifi.
All I had to do was add my magic jack number as a forwarding option in google voice. Then when I am somewhere without cell service, I connect to wifi, bring up the google voice setup web page and check the check box to enable forwarding to the mj number. So when someone calls my normal number.... No signal... Straight to google voice... Rings my magic jack number... Rings on my wifi connected android phone.
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i not sure i get what you are saying?
why dont you just use mj the way it is being done here already?
you dont need GV do you?
if someone calls my mj number it will ring on my phone and i can answer it.
i can also make calls.
the call quality is just horrible for me though
at least on my evo
i really wish someone could make a guide showing which settings produce the best quality conversation
m16-maniac said:
i not sure i get what you are saying?
why dont you just use mj the way it is being done here already?
you dont need GV do you?
if someone calls my mj number it will ring on my phone and i can answer it.
i can also make calls.
the call quality is just horrible for me though
at least on my evo
i really wish someone could make a guide showing which settings produce the best quality conversation
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I'm sharing my non-standard use of Magic Jack so that others who hate it when they go onsite (or whereever - maybe overseas at a resort with wifi) and don't have cell service but still want to make and receive calls.
mburris said:
It does work on android. I use it in conjunction with google voice to allow me to sill receive calls when I don't have any cell signal but do have wifi.
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i dont understand the part with GV.
the only advantage i can see if that they dont have to call your original mj number.
GV just forwards its number to the MJ number...i think
you dont have to actually use GV though....the people who call you can just have the original MJ number and you can receive calls on your cellphone when they call that number.
With CSipSimple you no longer need to link it up with GV.
As long as you have you MagicJack Sip credentials, you can use CSipSimple, and now also aSip, to make and receive USA/Canada calls w/o any extra charges, as long as your phone has some type of data connection, 3G/4G or WiFi.
Normally, you need to hook up the MagicJack dongle to a Computers USB port.
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http://www.magicjack.com/5/index.asp
I had magicjack for two years. Worked great. I would sign up again if magicjack works on Android.
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+1 in a heartbeat
Hey I'm having troubles setting this up. I installed the APK package onto my Droid 1 (verizon) running Android OS 2.2. After entering the username, password and server (with and without a specific port) it says "Register Failed - Check your Configuration". I have tried different combinations of making new advanced config accounts within CSIPSimple to no avail.
edit-- Also getting 'unauthorized' error
Force closing is a common occurrence while tinkering with the settings. What am I doing wrong? Is there a guide on how to set this up by chance? I'm new to the world of SIP/Softphones/VoIP & such so its a bit tedious at the moment. Also, is a microSD card required to use this?
Haven't been able to get my MagicJack SIP info. None of the process explained in the links seem to be working for me (nor for other people over at the linked page). Still working at it though....
i downlaoded the latest CSipSimple at the link in the first post of this thread.
when i disconnect the MJ dongle in my house and then i activate the MagicJack connection in the CSipSimple Accounts area i get a green light indicating i can make and recieve calls and it actually works fine.
BUT
when i take that same exact phone to town and connect to an open wifi hotspot i get the red indicator at the magicjack account and it says it couldnt register
now i only checked this at one hotspot that had an open wifi (Staples) so i not sure if it is in their router settings or if it is MagicJack Carrier detecting im not using my router (the last router the mj dongle was seen at)
if anyone knows it would be good to pass that info along.
Registration Failed, Request Timed Out, or Unauthorized Error
I don't know if this will help everyone with this problem, but last night I was using CSIPSIMPLE/MagicJack and it worked great. This morning, however, I was getting a registration failed error. I ran SIPDump.exe on the MJ device and found that MagicJack had apparently changed my password. As soon as I updated the password in CSIPSIMPLE it registered within seconds.
Crotchety said:
Haven't been able to get my MagicJack SIP info. None of the process explained in the links seem to be working for me (nor for other people over at the linked page). Still working at it though....
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The steps worked the first time for me. Just make sure you have SIPDump.exe ready to run and wait for the first ad to start showing up on the MJ softphone, and then quickly hit ok on Sipdump.exe.
Your Username is E**********01 (replace * with area code and phone number)
When you open the first Sipdump1.txt search for Sip.connection.refresh
Your password should be about 7 lines above that. Use all caps when putting the password into CSIPSIMPLE.
My phone number is based out of columbus so I set my proxy to
proxy01.columbus.talk4free.com
CSIPSIMPLE registered within seconds.
Thanks to all who made this possible. I have several places I go that I get wifi but no 3g/cell signal. This allows me to have phone service almost everywhere I go.
hey everyone.
i had this working for some time now. recently MJ changed the passwords so i went in there and got the new one. everything else looks the same but it doesnt seem to register for some odd reason. it says unauthorized. i extracted the keys in both the perk script and the other app mentioned int he first post. they are the same and still dont work. is anyone having the same issue?
any help would be much appreciated.
thanks
m16-maniac said:
if my screen goes dark the call starts breaking up real bad...dont know why it does....prob just a bug.
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Hit menu -> settings -> lock wifi and make sure it's checked. Your wifi goes to power saver when the screen shuts off.
Please post your experience with the call quality using your MagicJack account on Androic via this app. I've heard mostly bad reviews...
I want this so bad, I leave the country at least twice a year and am always stuck without a phone. Last time I went to UK, Span and France for a month and Skype had canceled their Android service. Two days after I got back they brought the app back (sans video calling). So frustrating.
I tried to get my password, but I was not able. Any suggestions how to find the password and set it on Galaxy S? Any help will be appreciated.
magicjack on andriod phone
Please i need help to use magicjack app on my Andriod Phone some one to help me.
Hello People!
I've been trying to research whether or not it is possible to set up a SIP account so that I can call my Google Voice number and then using the voice prompt menu in Google Voice gain access to toll free telephone calls.
I want to do this via the Nexus S. Has anyone done this? If so did you make step by step instructions? I'd like to do the same.
Thank you very much!!!!
It is indeed possible, through a combination of Google Voice, SipGate, and SipSorcery. It is not very stable in my experience, however, and it also drains your battery rather quickly because you need to be constantly connected (PBXes does help, but adds one more possible point of failure). I honestly wouldn't recommend it, but I can help you set it up if you really want to try it.
@Some_Person, Thanks for the offer for assistance. I just came across this instruction manual:
http://www.labnol.org/software/get-usa-local-phone-number/18407/
Now when I want to try I can't do it over 3G. Apparently SIP on Nexus S only allows for Wifi....
I'll let you know what happens when I test tomorrow and I certainly will take you up on your offer if this don't work.
Thanks again and I appreciate your response!
... don't you guys think that your operator has been already considered situation like this ? using 2G/3G/4G network to do "online - voice chat" or IP phone call , which will make them loose a lot of money ...
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to Suomalainen , you are unable to do this in 3G , i think that's probably banned by your operator ... because i have seem experience ...
@Some_Person
I got a IPKall number. I now need a SIP provider that will allow me to place free outgoing & receive free incoming calls.
I guess once I have this then I need to re-edit IPKall with new settings.
BUT can Google Voice be used/edited so that incoming calls are routed to my IPKall number which then are routed to my SIP software?
Alot of the stuff I'm finding on the web simply doesn't work.
Thanks!
@qtwrk- What would you rather have? Money made from the voice side of the business OR money from the data side of the business. With all the apps out there people are burning more data using these apps and this is where the revenue stream is for operators. The voice side of the network is a " just nice to have" for most of them....
but ...
data cost and voice cost are very different
i haven't used any IP call software , so i don't really know (i would image IP call software like skype is very similar), but i do have some online voice chat software (because some of my friend who i want call can just sit before a computer and then we can talk , exactly like phone...) , 1 hour , taking 1 hour only needs 3 - 5 mb
by my current operator
500 mb = 8 euros/moth
talking 60 minutes = establishment 0.15 euros , 0.08 euros per minute
0.15 + 0.08*60 = 4.95 euros , plus 18% of Value added tax
5.84 euros ...
so , 8 euros can allow you talk about 1 hour and 20 minutes , or by using Internet , chatting about 100 hours .
if i were your operator , i would definitely have these applications prohibited
I don't want to take up anymore space with this issue. This thread was suppose to be for getting help setting up SIP on my Nexus S. Please start new thread to voice your opinion.
Thanks!
Suomalainen said:
Hello People!
I've been trying to research whether or not it is possible to set up a SIP account so that I can call my Google Voice number and then using the voice prompt menu in Google Voice gain access to toll free telephone calls.
I want to do this via the Nexus S. Has anyone done this? If so did you make step by step instructions? I'd like to do the same.
Thank you very much!!!!
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Have you looked at GrooVe IP? Dunno if it'll fit all your SIP needs but it integrates well with Google Voice outside of the US.
@Slonn- Now this looks like something real interesting. Let me give it a shot and report back how it went. Thanks! Much appreciated!!!
Suomalainen said:
I don't want to take up anymore space with this issue. This thread was suppose to be for getting help setting up SIP on my Nexus S. Please start new thread to voice your opinion.
Thanks!
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oops
, okay , sorry about changing subject , good luck to you to find what you looking for
I've not tried it myself, but my co-workers GrooveIP+G Voice is the solution you are looking for. It's on sale in the Amazon App Store for $1.99 BTW.
Some complaints I've heard are that service latency is often an issue when on 2g/3g. Should be a good solution on Wifi at the house though I would imagine.
@The Gurgler - This is perfect. Got it installed and it works. This is indeed exactly what I was looking for!!!!
Thanks very much for pointing this app out to me.!!!!
P.S.-Let's just hope google voice to USA remains free next year....
Can i use GrooveIP since i am situated outside of USA ?
@Ibn Saeed - If you read the info about this app via the app market it clearly states that prior to purchasing GrooveIP the user needs to ensure they have a GV # and a gmail account. What this means is that you cannot move forward until you have obtained these two items FIRST. Then when these two pieces are collected you still need to install the plugin for GV into gmail so you got the U.S . dial pad appearing under chat on the left side of gmail window. The instructions say you even need to test it prior to app install and/or download.
Once you have satisfactorily obtained a GV # and a gmail account and did the GV plugin install then you can purchase the GrooveIP app. After that installation is a piece of cake.
I had in the beginning static and echos but then I adjusted the Echo Cancellation and Echo tail settings and things have been working thus far.
Also, you need a good friend to help you test the bluetooth. It works for me but you need to be wary of Mr. Bluetooth's feelings. Sometimes as call is ringing I need to turn it off then back on in order to work.
Also, dial pad is quite similar to the normal dial pad. I could see how one could mistakenly use one over the other.
I also noticed one call in the call log that was recorded as 00:00 long but I spoke for 15 minutes!
I use this over 3G 1MB plan and am amazed how well this works.
Pay attention to Google rate plans. It might be worthwhile having $20 in their account for those calls you might want to use their service when making.
Anyone else seen this yet... simonics.com/gvgw
You need a Google voice number... (free)
NO im not spamming this.. i found it ON MY OWN and found it to be really useful since it works. Don't be haters... try it or not... its free and up to you.
I use this with my phone. There are places at my work where the only connection i have is WiFi... this solves the problem and i don't need stupid software to use it... just go to the site, set it up, and put the settings into your phone settings for internet calling.
Ive been using this for a few months now... and no, my Google account has not been hijacked and is a secure encrypted connection through a asterisk server and secure ports.
Read the FAQ on the site... its really simple and works.
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I've been testing it out a bit, it seems to work pretty well. I plan to drop my phone plan soon actually and just use a Verizon LTE hotspot.
I want to make sure I've got a method fairly reliable in place to make calls/texts with GV, and so far I've had success with the callback method, grooveIP (though the audio still sounds a bit funky), and using simonics and csip simple.
simonics + csip seemed to be the most reliable, though I've hit a snag: It's not allowing me to register my simonics account when I'm connected to my LTE hotspot. Works fine on any other wifi though.
silverwater25 said:
I've been testing it out a bit, it seems to work pretty well. I plan to drop my phone plan soon actually and just use a Verizon LTE hotspot.
I want to make sure I've got a method fairly reliable in place to make calls/texts with GV, and so far I've had success with the callback method, grooveIP (though the audio still sounds a bit funky), and using simonics and csip simple.
simonics + csip seemed to be the most reliable, though I've hit a snag: It's not allowing me to register my simonics account when I'm connected to my LTE hotspot. Works fine on any other wifi though.
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How does this work? Doesn't a Google Voice number have to forward to a real number and be attached to one? Do you have another number that the GV is attached to?
I don't use a single app for this.
*Setup a Google voice (free)
- set your ringback as Google chat.
*Setup a pbxes.org account (free)
- set a trunk that points to your gchat
If you're on an AOSP ROM, open dialer, go to settings, scroll to bottom, internet call settings, accounts, point to your pbxes account.
Done!
Now you have free incoming + outgoing calls over WiFi or 4G. Even 3G as well.
If you use the sipdroid app (by pbxes.org ppl) instead of the built-in AOSP SIP stack you get more audio encoding options and the ability to pass your calls thru a VPN. Pretty sweet
kennyglass123 said:
How does this work? Doesn't a Google Voice number have to forward to a real number and be attached to one? Do you have another number that the GV is attached to?
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I'm still learning about all this, it's been pretty confusing as it's all new stuff for me. I'll try to explain what I know (or what I think I know)
Internet calls (VOIP) are typically free when connecting to another internet connection (ex. Skype, Kakao, Seed, etc). PSTN (regular phone numbers) cost money to connnect. Google Talk, which is VOIP,. lets you call a PTSN for free from your desktop. This seems pretty unique and likely will not last forever I'm guessing.
Install a softphone on your device, and you're bypassing your carrier's calling network.
Calls coming in:
Now, it's possible to setup a free VOIP account and attach a "real" number to it as a way to connect to the outside world. This service called IPkall can give you a recycled Wash. state number and let you get calls on iit for free. I attached one of these to a Callcentric VOIP account..When someone rings my google voice number, it will ring my IDKall/Callcentric number, which oh yeah doesn't cost me anything.
Calling out:
Callback method: Using apps like the Google Voice Callback, you can do the same thing as you can from your desktop, which is have Google Voice ring one of your numbers while simultaneously calling the number you want to call. Google Voice is acting like the bridge between your phone and the one you're calling. Like you said you need a "real" number to make calls like this with google voice, but if your VOIP account is attached to a "real" number then it doesn't know the difference.Typically your carrier would charge you money/minutes to call your google voice number, but since you're connecting for free with a softphone/VOIP then you're only be charged for whatever data you use.
GrooveIP/Simonics Google Voice Gateway: I really don't know how these work, but my best guess is they're just simplifying the process for you, setting up the second VOIP account automatically.
So I'm annoyed that Csip Simple/simonics isn't working for me when I connect to my verizon sch-lc11 jetpack I picked up a few days ago (the verizon guys were pretty confused when I turned down a free iphone 4s, heh). Groove IP seems to be working all right now, if that fails then I can go back to the callback method, or maybe try setting up a pbx.
Setting the phone up so that it can receive SIP calls tends to chew through battery a little quicker.
Having said that...if you want to do your own thing and have an old pc (or even Raspberry Pi) laying around, check out PBX in a Flash (sorry I can't post links, just Google it). I've been running this setup for about two years to replace my land line with a google voice number and it works great. I've expanded my setup to have a home office number as well. All free. You can also set up your cell as a SIP or IAX extension and have the satisfaction of doing it yourself.
You can also purchase an obi100, and use the ObiTalk app.
Is there a way to change the outgoing caller ID on my cellphone to my business number?
The reason I am asking is because I have a VoIP-based business phone system (we host it ourselves) and my extension forwards to my cell phone when I am not in the office. It would be nice to be able to call people back from my cellphone and have it show my business number so that customers don’t inadvertently wind up with my cellphone number.
Right now I call back into our phone system and then place an outgoing call from there. But that means I cannot simply call using the dialer app and it’s difficult to do via the Bluetooth in my car because the second number (the customer’s number) as to be manually entered on the phone. It would be a lot nicer if Bell Mobility (or any carrier) could just replace my cell phone number with our business number.
Ideally I could do this for all of our technicians (who have company cell phones) so that their cellphones just becomes another extension on the system.
The Fish
They can replace your number, port it. Outside of that nothing you can do because they don't know what a business call is and what a personal call is to try and switch back and forth between your CID.
What we would do on FreePBX is create a account for the cellphone, have the boss use a SIP app on his phone, and then set the outbound CID for the account, that way when your calling someone back you just dial through the SIP app and select the outbound he wants (was running 4 companies at once and just had to use a prefix to set the ID he wanted) vs calling in and having to do a bunch of extra steps. Only thing is setting up policy for his phone to connect. I had a web site that they could authenticate through an then would add that to iptables so that they could connect since your IP will probably change occasionally, check out Dynamic Good Guys
There's really no easy way to go about it and it's all personal preference, and I know what you mean about people getting your cell number. I did on-site business and customer repairs and second someone gets your number it's calls all hours of the night, where if they used business number after-hours ivr would have caught it and left me alone.