Hey Guys
i'm going to get into C++ so I can program WinMob and having ordered Programing Windows by Petzold, I quickly realised this is not a "learn c++" book.
Can anyone recommend a book to take me from knowing nothing to genious please? I have assembler experience so not a total newbie but haven't done any for over 15 years!
Monty Burns said:
Hey Guys
i'm going to get into C++ so I can program WinMob and having ordered Programing Windows by Petzold, I quickly realised this is not a "learn c++" book.
Can anyone recommend a book to take me from knowing nothing to genious please? I have assembler experience so not a total newbie but haven't done any for over 15 years!
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are you a C/C++ expert? I presume you are since you have assembly knowledge.
I can't say I'm a WM programmer expert, but I like to share with you my experience with Windows and Windows Mobile.
I started off in Windows programming, rather than Windows Mobile, and that helps me alot in adopting Windows Mobile programming. And when I first started Windows programming, there isn't a luxury like .NET or MFC (actually it was already there, but very preliminary) so Win32 programming was all I can cling on, but I am glad I'm 'force' to learn Win32 programming as it forces me to understand the foundation of Windows operation (messaging queue, windows message intercept, windows manipulation, etc). So when C# and .NET comes in, it took me very quickly to adopt (although I resist on such managed framework for awhile ). Because of my background with Windows programming, it's easy for me to develop Windows Mobile application, although I can't say it's anywhere comparable to some of the wonderful codes you find in XDA developers.
So my personal advise is if you are into building good Windows code, knowing Win32 programming is important.
Monty Burns said:
Can anyone recommend a book to take me from knowing nothing to genious please? I have assembler experience so not a total newbie but haven't done any for over 15 years!
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I would like to suggest Douglas Boling's "Programming Microsoft Windows CE .NET, Third Edition (Core Reference)" or its latest version. It was one of Windows Mobile C++ book that I bought that's still useful after many years.
HI GUys
thanks for the replies.
I've quickly found out that before I learn C++ for WinMob I need to learn it on the windows platform in general. As you say Zenkinz, it seems easy to migrate from Windows to WinMob. Sadly, I am far from advanced at c++, I used to know assembler (680x0) but that was over 15 years ago! Infact, i'm a complete newbie to C++
I got that Douglas Boling book ... its mammoth! And also beyond my level at the moment as I'm a complete learner.
I've also booked myself on a local college course to start me on learning C++.
So again, thank you for the replies, very usefull!
. . . with understanding development using Java for Android?
Do I start with Java books?
Where do I read about how to set up an Android development environment? I'm trying to read through everything at the Android Developers website, but I was hoping someone could point me towards better/more information.
I know this is a VERY n00b question, but in order to avoid asking any further n00b questions, I'd like to come to this party better equipped.
TIA -
Darryl
You HAVE to be good at java before you can start programming for android. C/C++ too if you intend to develop something performance hungry.
I suggest that you look at an introduction to developing in Java on desktop and familiarize yourself with Java syntax. If you haven't programmed anything before then also familiarize yourself with programming techniques and object oriented programming in java.
To be honest, it takes 4 years on college to learn that. You may be able to learn it earlier, given that you put enough effort but don't expect programming anything useful anytime soon.
Thank you!! At least I have a starting point. Never too late to begin.
Gonna see if starting with Introduction to Java Programming, Comprehensive Edition is something that works for me.
Thanks again!!
sorry for double post
Ive managed to set up Eclipse 3.5 and the Android SDK.
Then I downloaded the components to develop for Android 1.5, 1.5, and 2.x(.x)
Also installed the USB driver(on an WinXP machine) and that's all there is to it, I think.
As for Java, I have an old book(or bible, judging by the size) on Java 1.5 from Deitel.
But right now, Im just looking at the official trails on sun.com:
http ://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html
I guess learning the syntax is one thing.
Learning programming concepts and OO are two other things.
Then there are algorithms and programming techniques.
Then there is familiarization with how the Android platform differs from regular Java applications/applets/etc.
I think that covers the basic steps towards Android programming in java.
If I missed anything, can someone fill me in please?
Thanks!
maybe someone knows of a open source repos. you can look at examples. Like planet-source-code dot com but with android examples.
I have coding experience in C++ and windows programming languages, but I haven't a clue about android. I tried searching google and this forum for a good master thread or even a book, but haven't had much luck.
Can anyone help me out?
jojo54696 said:
I have coding experience in C++ and windows programming languages, but I haven't a clue about android. I tried searching google and this forum for a good master thread or even a book, but haven't had much luck.
Can anyone help me out?
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same here
Hello I am new to xda and I would like to start developing new custom roms and kernels however I do not know where to start.
Just some background info about me:
I am 15 yrs old
I am have programmed in the following:
c++
visual basic
c#
asm
Java
javascript
html
android 2.2 framework
window phone 7 framework
xml
ios
XNA
I have done computer repair for people along with console repair
Tools I have used:
visual studio
android sdk
eclipse
dreamweaver
dev c++
Photoshop
appmobi xdk
phonegap xda
xcode iphone sdk
and some more
Phone I currently have:
evo 3d
I am a noob to making roms and I do not know how to start if someone could help me or point me into the right direction that would great. Thanks
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that was my post and still no replys
First of all, learn and become comfortable with Java. If you're not comfortable with Java you're going to have some problems since besides the c libraries/kernel the android source is Java/XML.
Second, you need to decide if you're going to be messing with pre-built ROMs (or RUUs or whatever) or the actual AOSP. Actual AOSP is the actual source code but if you're modding a pre-built ROM you're going to have to also learn how to deal with smali code (which as far as I know is basically machine code [if you know what that is]).. Eris has a pretty good guide-in-progress which I'll find and post here later if I can.
It's a lot of work and a lot of looking and learning and not very clear. I have a lot of respect for the people who do it a lot I'm thinking of dabbling soon...
Edit:
here: http://teambamf.net/showthread.php/2793-Guide-Eris-s-Ultimate-Guide-to-ROM-ing-and-Porting
Alright before you all have a go on him, I know this isn't the right place to post neither this website but I am active in this site so don't want to create account on another site just to ask this question. I am student and n00b in terms of Programming. I am thinking of joining extra classes in summer vacation. Of course I want to become software engineer. I want to know which will be best language for me to start. C, C++ or dot net? Visual basic looks easy to use but not sure if it has much value in future. I am confused so thought I may get help from these experienced developers. I am in the last year of High School btw.
I am n00b so don't go hard on me If I said anything stupid
friend863 said:
Alright before you all have a go on him, I know this isn't the right place to post neither this website but I am active in this site so don't want to create account on another site just to ask this question. I am student and n00b in terms of Programming. I am thinking of joining extra classes in summer vacation. Of course I want to become software engineer. I want to know which will be best language for me to start. C, C++ or dot net? Visual basic looks easy to use but not sure if it has much value in future. I am confused so thought I may get help from these experienced developers. I am in the last year of High School btw.
I am n00b so don't go hard on me If I said anything stupid
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Studying C/C++ will be kick start in programming. For future scope, studying Java is good, because Java has its own different fields like Standalone application, web application, and Android of course.
If you're opting for .NET, be sure you're learning the latest version, as .NET versions change from time to time.
And also there are several modern languages like Python, Ruby, Perl etc. Don't know much about its scope.
But everything just emerged from C or Java. So first making a base is what it matters.
EDIT: Don't study Visual Basic as a separate Course, if its included in .NET then its fine. As VB is somewhat a dead technology, most companies are not using it. Studying Silverlight with .NET would be a good choice though.
The best language for me and easy to learn is python programming even noob can create thier own project or apps. bcoz it is embedable in all apps u can understand even if u r n0t a programmer..
Actually any programming language is good to get to know programming in general and to exercise your brain to think/work this way.. oncve you advance a little bit, you will also have the knowledge to know which language to go specific on..
because of my studies, I started with assembler and C, C++, Java, C#.
it depends on what you want to do.
you want to program Android application, use Java, Windows Phone use C#...
i neglected programming on my studies.. i was too lazy. but now i want to be a developer somehow..
so Java for Android applications?
so how about Developing a Rom/Kernel?
Python will be easiest and once you know how to program in one language all others will be much easier to learn.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA
Thanks guys, looking forward to it.
The first programing language I used was C.
I've started with C++. But You should try .NET at the beggining. It's so simple. Almost drag&drop method. I used it to create a lot of code generators for my game and other projects.
You should also try AutoIt. Maybe quite harder, but still useable.
I would say, start either with Java or Python.
Why? No specific reason, but they are easy to learn and have a wide area where they can be used later.
I would start with ActionScript 3.0 and/or Java. The first one is the easiest and most fun to program in
If anyone is interested in applications for Android, you should try App Inventor.
http://www.appinventor.mit.edu/
You should try python, becase as others say, it's pretty easy, and if you want to be more motivated, try udacity.com. This is university that operate entirely online. You can view lectures, do quizes, there are also final exams. They start 101 Computer Science (where you learn basics) at 16 april. And guess what, they use python! Even on harder classes.
I wouldn't encourage starting with C or C++. Java and C# are a bit higher level languages and thererfore help you get started faster and let you consentrate on the things that matter most. I would prefer C# over Java as Java has gotten a bit messy in some places, has some gaps in it's standard library, and lacks in standard user interface tools.
Another option to C# would be JavaScript, CSS, and HTML, but the compiler in C# can help you by pointing out mistakes that JavaScript tools can not. Also, if you go this route, don't try to make your code run well on many browsers as that will only cause extra headiche while you are trying to learn the basics. Actually, if you want to use JavaScript over C#, Windows 8 WinRT programming could be a good place to look at. However, it's still in development and lacks in documentation and learning materials when compared to more mature technologies.
If u want work in buisness then go Java. But its very expensive to use because it needs large resources. If u want go for new language try Scala.
JAVA and C++ are the most widely used languages in the world of work today.
But if you want to do web, starts with PHP. It's fairly simple to understand and you can quickly get to Object Oriented concepts, and use simple Design Patterns.
Hello,
I want to start learning to program for windows phone so i bought a book on C# and started to read. Now I am hearing about how wp8 will be using native code. Does that mean that wp8 will be using C++ or should i still be able to program using C#? I am not very knowledgeable in programming as I just started reading so im not too familiar with the lingo.
I'd stick to c# for the beginning as you can nerly do everything with it and it's way easier to get started.
No need to fight against native code. You can still do that when the time comes as c++ is similar to c#.