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Hey all, first post here. Currently I'm interested in the Rogers Galaxy S Captivate (seem to be a million different versions of the galaxy which is quite confusing). Beyond a few basic reviews/unboxings I can't really find much information on this phone. Without doing a long drawn out post I'll cut to my questions quick (I apologize if I'm posting this in the wrong forum and the noobish questions):
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
Thanks ahead of time.
1) random shutdown issue with one of my phones. GPS problem with second. Third was fine (GPS/no shutdowns) but the build is "creaky". GPS is really fast and accurate and no problems. Battery lasts decent, depends how much you have the screen on for. Right now I can last 4 hours on idle with wifi/3G on and lose maybe 1%. Of course, nothing is really going on.
2-4 No clue yet. Haven't flashed. Kind of waiting for Froyo release from Rogers.
bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.
Wifi tethering was in stock rom just so you know. Go into wifi settings
I think you should be okay since you're getting it much later than most other people... I think I'm included as well. I had the shutdown problem but a factory reset fixed it, so I think it was just a software issue on my end. GPS is still spotty, works great and accurately but sometimes doesn't. I also have the slight problem with search popping up randomly, but I am not too bothered by that.
Otherwise it's fine, I love this phone. Everyone is so intrigued when I pull it out.
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bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.
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Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.
desmopilot said:
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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In general, the phone is really quite good. The Rogers stock GPS doesn't have the issues that the AT&T GPS appears to have, but the modem is HSDPA not HSUPA so upload speed is limited to around 300-400 Kbps and download is limited to around 5Mbps max). Rogers also don't put on a load of bloatware which is really quite nice. Stock Rogers phone even comes with tethering enabled (USB or WiFi using MyAP). With my phone I can't really say I had any "Hates"..a few minor annoyances, such as
- the contact groups (in stock) never syncs the Google Groups
- the calendar app has no "conference call" option, I had this on my OpenEtna phone
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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No official Froyo support as yet. Rogers saying early 2011. Froyo is only available in custom ROMs based on a leaked ROM and now also based on the GT-i9000 (e.g. Galaxy S "Vibrant" from Bell...as well as some stuff from the Telus "Fascinate" too), as there are official Froyo builds for that (which are not without their own problems too).
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- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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Very easy, particularly from rogers as they have not prevented you from loading software in any way, so you can simply download z4root or oclf or the like, directly to your phone from it's browser and run it locally to root your phone. There are a few ways to install the ROMs but they are mostly detailed in their own announcement threads and pretty much cover the bases. There is also a ROM installer HowTo in the QnA or Question section of the Samsung Captivate forum.
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
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Almost all ROMs yes...and also in Rogers stock.
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Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.
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All of the ROMs that the Chefs put out are really quite good. It mostly comes dow to a personal preference. One thing to be aware of is the ROM limitations. These are usually listed in their announce thread too:
Note that if you want HSUPA (up to 5.6 Mbps up/7.4 Mbps down) then you need one of the i9000 based modems. You can often put different modems from different ROMs into your own phone, but there are some limitations. The modem should come from the same build (e.g. don't put a 2.1 modem in a 2.2 ROM), some modems are HSDPA only (e.g. the Rogers and AT&T based ones) and that the modem bin is used for more than modem processing, it appears to be used in DSP so it affects that voice call handling. With some modems as a result, you may not be heard on a voice call..so test. It's not to big a deal as you can easily swap out a modem for another.
Cogntion and Perception are ROMs both by DesignGears. I liked them both but couldn't get the combination of features I wanted (which they NOW have) and I couldn't get hold of DesignGears to provide me with his set-up for compiling the kernal (one of the few chefs that compiles his own kernels...most use kernels from other people). To my thinking Perception is more "active" than Cognition leading to cognition being (considered by some) more stable...but it's just a matter of preference. I think that Cognition is not capable of HSUPA but Perception is...though withough checking I may have that the wrong way around.
Axura 2.5 is what I am currently running, though there will be no more development on the "old" Axura because AdamHolden, the latest Axura chef received too many negative comments for his liking and quit. He is starting a new ROM with a team rather than as an individual (see here).
I hear good comments about Assonance, but haven't tried it since using Axura as it fit all my needs.
There are also many others. Just take a browse through the "Captivate Android Development" forum and you will see a number of [ROM] threads. Take a quick read of atleast the first 3-4 posts on the thread as those are used to identify the current version, features, state and issues.
desmopilot said:
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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I love my SGS. Feels very snappy with some tweaking and a different launcher, battery life is 24-48 hours with average usage (again with some settings tweaks). No GPS or Shutdown issues on my side and I bought the phone when it was first available. A few people at my work have the phone and I've heard no issues with it at all. One tiny issue I have seen is that some texts seem to come in with an incorrect time stamp. They seem to be about 5 hours off. This can be easily fixed with a simple app so I don't even think about it anymore.
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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As has been mentioned before, no Froyo yet but that's pretty standard for Rogers. On the plus side there is a Gingerbread ROM being made which looks very sexy in the I9000 forums by supercurio and others.
desmopilot said:
- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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I rooted my phone in a matter of minutes with z4 root, very simple, one click. I have tried to lag fix my device using oclf but it failed. I know it's not the phone though since a friend of mine has the same phone and his works great. If you like quadrant stats, he's right up there. I personally haven't used any ROM's yet but I will be in the near future. From what I can see there are a lot of ROM's available and it seems like a pretty simple process.
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- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
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Haven't bothered, I don't need it so I don't know.
I definitely recommend this phone
No issues for a (relatively) simple user that just wants froyo. Love how un-branded rogers left this phone compared to my SE dumbphones and whatnot.
Never tried thethering (as i have no idea how much data i have left)
GPS Test gets a lock within 15 or so seconds with 50ft accuracy (lowers down to around 30 after a bit)
I think i had one of the newer batches (purchased from corporate - early December)
Thanks a lot for the replies all! Looks like i'll be hopping one the Captivate wagon pretty soon.
nevermind, my mistake.
The Captivate is amazing with Rogers, my wife and I both have one and they are fast, solid build, and just a joy to use.
If you want to see a video of mine, just search on youtube "gunstar1981"
Its a really great phone, hope you get yours soon!
Is there a particular ROM that is a fully functional, cut above the rest, must-have custom ROM? Looking to root my G2X, but I was wondering if it was even worth it at this point (aside from getting rid of bloatware).
At this point, probably Bionix 2.
I say Bionix 2 eventually. For right now I don't think there is a very "feature-rich" ROM that is stable enough for true everyday use. Right now we're limited to stable ROMs that remove bloatware and optimize the software.
I am currently using EaglesBlood 1.0.4 Froyo and am very happy with it.
Is there a ROM that fixes the problem with frequent data disconnections? I can't do anything that involves streaming, including Slacker, without the phone constantly losing its connection.
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Is there a ROM that fixes the problem with frequent data disconnections? I can't do anything that involves streaming, including Slacker, without the phone constantly losing its connection.
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Maybe thats a problem with the 4G network? I live in between Milwaukee and Chicago, so its shaky at best. I average around 800 kb/s (pathetic) but the closer I get to either city and it starts to take off (6 mb/s is my all time high IIRC) A friend (who is also a tmobile rep, so take this with a grain of salt) mentioned that t-mobile is revamping their 4G network and coverage should be much much better in our area around the end of summer.
Bionix 2
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Is there a ROM that fixes the problem with frequent data disconnections? I can't do anything that involves streaming, including Slacker, without the phone constantly losing its connection.
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I'm glad thats not just happening to me. Are you losing mobile connection or WiFi connection of data? Honestly it happens to me all day everyday... All connections just get locked out, anywhere from 2mins to 10mins.
None of the kernels/ROMs are working like you expect. Some say they do but if you're like me and use data, sms, mms, phone, email and gps then you're SOL. because one if not more of those things are going to just not work or cut in and out on you. So play around if you have self control to not destroy your phone into a thousand pieces.
I'm trying EagleBlood now...after I charge this thing I mean. lol
Eaglesblood 1.04 GB is absolutely perfect so far.
I would say Bionix 2 is on its way, CM 7 still needs a lot of work to be a stable daily driver. Haven't tried any others, but too many issues it seems, on any of thse roms for it to be classified as "far above the rest".
Im using the leaked 2.3.3 ROM and so far have had no issues, works like a charm.
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I would say Bionix 2 is on its way, CM 7 still needs a lot of work to be a stable daily driver. Haven't tried any others, but too many issues it seems, on any of thse roms for it to be classified as "far above the rest".
Im using the leaked 2.3.3 ROM and so far have had no issues, works like a charm.
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You got a source you can point to?
...and say you're on a leaked 2.3 would your device auto-recognize that a 'newer version is available' if they push the update? Probably not huh...
I would say any of the custom roms are more stable than stock INCLUDING CM7. Honestly, I have no idea why some people are still saying CM7 is not a daily driver. I'm pretty picky and I find it to be damn near perfect now. It had plenty of issues on the first nightly, but by #11 or so, it had everything major worked out, and by #18, even the minor stuff has basically disappeared.
For me is EB Froyo 1.04
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Ask this question in a month or two.
But for now bionix 2.
Sent from my G2x running Bionix 2 with the power of Trinity.
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You got a source you can point to?
...and say you're on a leaked 2.3 would your device auto-recognize that a 'newer version is available' if they push the update? Probably not huh...
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Well think about it.. say it DID detect that auto update... you wouldn't want to auto update your rooted G2X with an official from from T-Mob that would UNROOT your phone anyway. When that release comes we're all going to wait for the devs to do their thing on it and then update... if other custom roms are ready yet that is.
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Well think about it.. say it DID detect that auto update... you wouldn't want to auto update your rooted G2X with an official from from T-Mob that would UNROOT your phone anyway. When that release comes we're all going to wait for the devs to do their thing on it and then update... if other custom roms are ready yet that is.
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>Well thats exactly why I mentioned it. This is my first droid and first time getting my hands dirty in Linux. I have a background in windows scripting so there's a little learning curve but Im picking it up quick. I dont know if they typically "push" these updates or if it's user initiated.
Anyway I just flashed the leaked version of GB 2.3 and it's totally solid... feels like butter, so smooth and much more feel (you'll see what I mean). The the leaked version had signed release keys which is *usually* indicative of a publishable version... meaning this very well may be the actual release.... just leaked The baseband hasn't been updated so no super goodies yet and the kernel is the same as stock but here's a start. I think THIS is a good page to link to since it gives the detailed root/download/install instructions for you folks that get unsure of yourself at every step
*EDIT*= Just noticed something... In the link follow all the relevant instructions. One thing I disagree with and advise otherwise is the "ROM Manager > Install ROM from SD Card"... this has a few potentials for failure and just isn't reliable enough to recommend. I've had ROMs not load or not update and you just open an unneeded potential for problems. When you get to that step do this instead: Open ROM Manager and select "Backup Current ROM"... your device will reboot and backup etc.. Once its done and restarts go back to ROM Mgr and select "Reboot In Recovery" and from there you should choose "Install from zip"... the UP and DOWN Volume keys move the cursor and the Power button pressed once is 'select'... just move slow so you dont accidentally hit the power button on the wrong option. If you do it this way your potential for success is superior.
**Again read all disclaimers and notations associated with modifying your device and do so at your own will. Damaging consequences could always occur.**
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You got a source you can point to?
...and say you're on a leaked 2.3 would your device auto-recognize that a 'newer version is available' if they push the update? Probably not huh...
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doesn't matter because devs will likely make a rom for ne new gb ota updates any ways so......
CM7 nightly #99 seemed to be the most stable for my g2x so far. But I've had a bunch of problems with #101. I'm going to try Bionix (really hope rc2 comes soon) but I will likely revert back to CM7 as soon as its stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318704
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I just installed Octane to my galaxy s 4g after much work, research and reading through these forums. Everything is working phenomenally, I'm running gingerbread, have screaming speeds, and fairly decent 4g data connection (confirmed) and my phone boots faster than I've ever seen it, awesome work.
The problem is that wifi is not working that well. The range is horrible and it will only connect to wireless G routers, and absolutely will not even connect to any N routers, it just simply scans, connects, scans, connects, etc....
I have tried multiple modem files, the default that comes with Octane (which I believe is KI3, I tried KF2, as well as KJ3, all with same results, and will be attempting KD2 next (the one that came stock on the phone, I believe), which I expect the same results as I was running the KJ3 modem prior to moving from stock rom to Octane, with no issues which tells me it's likely a problem with how the new rom handles N networks, but if anybody else here has an idea on how to fix this, I'm all ears.
Like I said, everything else is working just great, so I know the rom installed properly and even got gingerbread working, however is someone doesn't believe me that I actually can follow instructions, the links for the guides I followed are below.
Rooted, installed cwm
backed up my stock rom, settings, etc, twice using cwm (just to make sure) and backed all sd card contents up to computer
attempted install of octane per the forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305145
failed due to gingerbread migration issue, fixed per the gingerbread start up guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223765
and of course for completeness, I did read over/follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508 where applicable and had a nice look over the bible at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554 and a look over http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
and that, I believe encompasses about every useful and up-to-date bit of pertinent information that I could find, and remember using since this adventure has taken quite a bit of time over the last few days.
So, please don't ask any dumb obvious questions like "did you set the mounts properly" or "did you wipe the cache first", because I did, if I didn't the rom wouldn't even be working and I would have a different issue, and please don't flame me if this happened to have been answered 6 months ago on this forum, google and even this forum search can only do so much and I did make every reasonable effort to find an answer first. I may be new to these forums but not to technology...so thanks to all who are able and willing to offer any useful suggestions/advice.
Sorry, but that last part of your post was arrogant as hell. You should consider not putting that there if you want help next time. Most people that could help might just be put off by that.
On topic, wifi is a known issue on ask of the GB ROMs, which is why every leak practically has the question "how's wifi". We're still waiting for a leak with all problems solved.
thank you very much for your reply, that was exactly the type of information I was looking for.
As for sounding arrogant, I apologize and did consider that when writing and tried to make it sound less arrogant, problem is I have had more than my fair share of experience on these forums and I find it tends to waste a ton of time when people don't bother to read my post and ask me obvious questions, or just simply insult me by talking down to me like a kindergartener. Now I understand there's a lot of noobs on here and such, and I apologize for my frustrations in getting responses and any hurt feelings. Unfortunately I don't know any better way of getting across that I'm not an idiot, can use search and google, and can follow directions....
Glad I could help.
However, if you're super dependent on wifi, you should probably go back to Froyo instead. IMO, the speed difference in GB is worth the poor wifi signal (although my wifi doesn't seem to have problems).
That wasn't meant to be anything offensive to you, btw. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Unfortunately, some people here jump at the chance to flame.
yeah, I'll take the speed anyday, having my phone up and ready to go in 2-4 minutes versus the 15-20 it used to take is definitely worth it, and 4g is working well enough I can live with being stuck on 4g at one end of my house...
and yes, people love to flame, on xbox we call them telephone tough guys, all the same though, a hallmark of the internet since the early 90's, man that makes me feel old....
You could also try switching out modems to see which one would give you the best service too.
Pardon my lack of proficiency on the subject but what tools and or apps do you use to test the wifi on our phones? I hardly use it so I really haven't noticed any difference since flashing custom ROMs. I think the only time I connect is to use the Google TV remote app to interact with the TV. I understand testing with different routers for the B/G/N connections I was just curious what tools you use to measure signal strength and throughput?
Locobato said:
Pardon my lack of proficiency on the subject but what tools and or apps do you use to test the wifi on our phones? I hardly use it so I really haven't noticed any difference since flashing custom ROMs. I think the only time I connect is to use the Google TV remote app to interact with the TV. I understand testing with different routers for the B/G/N connections I was just curious what tools you use to measure signal strength and throughput?
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I use wifi analyzer: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer
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Btw, the 802.11n supports only 2.4GHz, not 5GHz
Nice, thank you sir. Only thing is I don't want to go back to stock or even Froyo to see if there is a difference lol. But with this app at least I can see just what my Wifi is doing.
Locobato said:
Nice, thank you sir. Only thing is I don't want to go back to stock or even Froyo to see if there is a difference lol. But with this app at least I can see just what my Wifi is doing.
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Probably won't be any difference between modded and stock. Since the rom modders aren't modifying the modem.bin.
But going back to Froyo, you will notice a difference. It is much better there.
Wifi is probably the reason they haven't dropped GB source yet (amongst other stability issues).
[FIXED] wifi on galaxy s 4g fully working WITH gingerbread
IT WORKS, IT'S FIXED!!! WOOT!!!
yes, running gingerbread/octane on galaxy s 4g, have wifi on both N and G networks, secured with wpa/wpa2 psk. Typical setup in any home and it works!! not the strongest signal on the planet but I have access and screaming speeds (4g speeds are off the chain with this new rom compared to stock, better performance probably has everything to do with it)
so, yes, a router reboot and a couple modem file flashes later and viola, everything works.....using gingerbread. Would add a signature to show what I"m using if this site would let me, but for now I'll post it here:
Phone: samsung galaxy s 4g (SGH-T959V)
firmware version: 2.3.5
Baseband version: T959VUVKJ3
modem: KJ3
Kernel version: [email protected] #2
Build: Gingerbread.VUVKI3
Rom: octane v2.0 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305145
hint: if you choose to install the rom, be sure to install the gingerbread startup pack first!
from the above responses having wifi, 4g, and everything else working WITH a new rom and great performance has had an issue, I would like to say at this point everything is working great all around, no issues whatsoever. Total awesomsauce!
I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
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Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
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thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
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If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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RBarnett09 said:
Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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moonlightcheese said:
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.
He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
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Hey guys,
With the communities help, I've rooted my phone, and have begun experimenting with roms, I'm pretty excited about all this -- but so far, I haven't found one yet that meets my needs.
The only roms I could even find are the ones linked to by this thread. But I can't comment there because I'm an uber-n00b. **** yeah, n00b status! XD
So here's some of the issues I'm having, maybe someone can point me in the right direction:
I'm using CWM to flash roms, and I can't flash the "Debloated Jelly Bean stock image" linked to in that thread, CWM tells me there's an error in the zip halfway through. Though if I do an "unzip -test" on it from the command line, it verifies okay -- so I'm guessing the package is either borked, or intended to be used differently than how I'm trying to use it.
That being said, I've had great success flashing the unofficial, and experimental Cyanogen 10.1s -- but none of them that I have tested have all of the features I want working. Is there a recommended version? The features I want are pretty basic things:
First and foremost: Wi-Fi tethering (I'd pay for it if T-mobile had an option for it, but they don't -- not on unlimited anyway -- and I always hit my data-cap even without tethering, if I went on a non-unlimited plan, it would cost me $20/more a month and for about the last 10-15 days of each month I'd be stuck on EDGE/2G -- to me, that's unacceptable.)
Being able to connect to Wi-Fi networks (obviously not at the same time as tethering, but I expect both to work).
GPS
Bluetooth!! (The latest "stable" the Unofficial 13-03-09 does not appear to be able to connect to my headset.)
The Stock Clock: Alarms App (Also seems to be broken in the 13-03-09 release.)
And obviously: Calling, Texting, Camera, Flashlight
Basic Battery Stuff (Latest "stable" and nightlies both have issues with determining if the battery charger is connected or not, reboot seems to fix it most of the time).
The one thing I don't use (that I know about) on my phone is NFC. I like the idea of NFC, especially to pay for things, I just have never bothered to **** with it to set it up.
So, Is there a list of the nightlies and like some quick indicators that say which key features are working or not? If not, I might be willing to set one up for the most recent ones (at least until I find one that has features that I want all working more or less). If this already exists though, it would be a great time saver. If not, is anyone willing to help me set this up? The testing will go a lot better with >1 person testing things.
I figure stock does almost everything I need except tethering, but I can't figure out how to get the debloated stock rom on, and installing the tethering fix for regular stock (or Cyanogen for that matter) just makes the phone not boot.
Thanks for reading, any thoughts / comments -- and even moreso: answers -- are greatly appreciated. [And hopefully, none of the above is taken as criticism to anyone, as it's not meant that way, clearly, I'm a little frustrated, but I'm also very much excited to be finally modding my phone, and it wouldn't be possible without all the community support that has gone into this development!]
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OH MAN! I just flashed the MC5 modem; BLUETOOTH WORKS NOW ON THE UNOFFICIAL 2013-03-09 RELEASE!
I haven't tested everything yet, but pretty much everything seems to be working now it seems!!! :good::good::fingers-crossed::good::good:
Man, I wish this was all in a guide somewhere so that I wouldn't have to stumble around in the dark like this. :silly: