so as many users are no doubt aware that samsung has left off a led for notifications i have been thinking of ways around it. i have tried the NoLED app and it works ok but im not crazy about it. I feel like there is a simpler way. Is it possible to just use the backlights on the hard keys at the bottom as a notification light when a user receives a text, gtalk, missed call, etc... ? Anyone have an idea of how difficult it would be or if this is even possible? Im thinking that maybe all 4 lights blink in some sort of pattern, or if it is all one light then i guess you just blink that for 10 seconds or something then let it sleep for 30 seconds maybe? thoughts? I'm, not familiar with android development so the task sounds awfully daunting to me.
Is it really that hard to post in the questions section? And I think it'd be a fantastic idea. A bit of a battery suck, but I'd be willing to give up some juice for a backlight notification system.
Sleek69 said:
Is it really that hard to post in the questions section? And I think it'd be a fantastic idea. A bit of a battery suck, but I'd be willing to give up some juice for a backlight notification system.
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Well, while I did ask a question, it was about an app so I guess this could have been posted in either thread. Also, I wasn't so much asking for permission or advice for the app as I was hoping that someone with knowledge of the hardware might respond and let me know if my idea is even possible. Is the backlight on the hard keys all one light or could we individually illuminate just one key at a time?
I don't think it would be any worse on battery life than the NoLED application which actually turns your whole screen when you have a notification. There are battery saving options but I would think periodically blinking the backlight would be slightly better than turning on the whole screen, right?
it is possible, there were BLN (backlight notifications) on my Fascinate before I got my Charge... however its quite a bit of work to hack it into the kernel especially without official kernel source for GB yet (which is most likely where you'll get BLN is GB or CM7) and imo is pretty worthless since the lights are so dim
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it is possible, there were BLN (backlight notifications) on my Fascinate before I got my Charge... however its quite a bit of work to hack it into the kernel especially without official kernel source for GB yet (which is most likely where you'll get BLN is GB or CM7) and imo is pretty worthless since the lights are so dim
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so are you saying that hacking it into the kernel is the only way to go about this? it's not an app that you could just run in the background? i do imagine that it's probably much better in the kernel though. I just checked the CM website and they dont support the charge yet, but I assume they will at some point. I do like the GummyCharged ROM that im running now though. Yes, the lights are dim but at least it's something. that's better than constantly having to turn the screen on to see if I have missed anything.
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so are you saying that hacking it into the kernel is the only way to go about this? it's not an app that you could just run in the background? i do imagine that it's probably much better in the kernel though. I just checked the CM website and they dont support the charge yet, but I assume they will at some point. I do like the GummyCharged ROM that im running now though. Yes, the lights are dim but at least it's something. that's better than constantly having to turn the screen on to see if I have missed anything.
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yes it's only done through hacking kernel/rom scripts, and an awesome developer who goes by jt1134 is hard at work with our other awesome Charge devs to get CM7 going on our phones so hopefully soon
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I think this would be pretty cool. If the phone is charging, then the bottom 4 haptic buttons would stay lit. Then they would turn off once the charge is at 90% or 100%.
It would be a good indicator for those of us who use CPUStatusLED. Plus I think it would look pretty pimp.
For those who think it would be unnecessarily bright when charging at night, then maybe make this option toggle-able.
Anyone know if it is possible, and if so would it be easy? I can attempt it myself if someone can help guide me, but I have very little knowledge of how something like this works. Just PM me if you're interesting in sharing your knowledge.
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Ooh that would be cool. Or maybe make them pulse periodically(configurable of course).
Well now that you mention pulsing, I got another idea. It would really cool if the buttons can light up in succession, like a LED scroll. Since it seems like the backlights naturally pulse on and off (rather than a quick blink) I think a scrolling pulse would look awesome. Maybe keep each series of pulses a good 5 seconds apart or more so it doesnt look too crazy. Then once the phone is fully charged, the backlights would stay on.
It would definitely make iphone owners jealous too.
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Well now that you mention pulsing, I got another idea. It would really cool if the buttons can light up in succession, like a LED scroll. Since it seems like the backlights naturally pulse on and off (rather than a quick blink) I think a scrolling pulse would look awesome. Maybe keep each series of pulses a good 5 seconds apart or more so it doesnt look too crazy. Then once the phone is fully charged, the backlights would stay on.
It would definitely make iphone owners jealous too.
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You got a +1 from me. I'm not capable of helping though unfortunately...
I also register my keen interest but total lack of helpful knowledge
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Definitely interested. Hope this is made.
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deffinatly interested in this if a developer/coder would be able to pull this off.
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Hey guys, a friend of mine has this ap, NoLED for his galaxy and its friggin awesome, and I tried it on my incredible just to see if it worked (didnt see anything about phone support) but my phone started spazzing and rebooting.
wondering if anyone else can get it running or if a possible port might happen?
heres the guys home page
http://www.devasque.com/noled/index.php
This is an awesome idea. Would really like to see if this can b ported to the inc. Since the inc has a shabby led as is, turning the screen into a led notification would b a +1. Hopefully some of the devs can respond on this.
I would not agree. For several reasons. I had two of the GS phones, vibrant and epic. The vibrant has no led so they created that app.
For one... it caused several problems. And didn't help the meager battery life. Although development perhaps continued along after I uninstalled.
Two... even on AMOLED it uses alot of battery to constantly keep that light on. Okay well on AMOLEDs, black pixels use no power. Each pixel is self powered. so theoretically only that tiny led dot is using power. I just remembered the Dinc's use AMOLEDS, so that is not necc an issue, except for the SLCDs which are backlit. In any case ask Nexus owners how much battery one led can use.
Overall, I changed my mind... it's xda, the theory here tends to be if you can do it, you should. So hey go for it. Just remember my review. It's useful to a point although I always wished you could swap the red led for pictures or whatever else you want, but it does drain your battery and can be confusing in use.
i use it all the time without issues, but it kills battery life. 100% wake time blows.
I have been using it for a while as well, works great but battery life sucks.
No notification light?
Ok wtf...
Not even a running charge indicator, no notification light? I mean it was so awesome on the nexus one and most every other android device with some form of glowing indicator light...
Now i dont know if a message or anything is waiting i have to keep turning on the phone. What a pain... Cant put a led in there somewhere?
Or is my phone screwed up?
Also, on two phone calls tonight the phone shut down and restarted...............
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Ok wtf...
Not even a running charge indicator, no notification light? I mean it was so awesome on the nexus one and most every other android device with some form of glowing indicator light...
Now i dont know if a message or anything is waiting i have to keep turning on the phone. What a pain... Cant put a led in there somewhere?
Or is my phone screwed up?
Also, on two phone calls tonight the phone shut down and restarted...............
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Download the NoLED app from the market
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Ok wtf...
Not even a running charge indicator, no notification light? I mean it was so awesome on the nexus one and most every other android device with some form of glowing indicator light...
Now i dont know if a message or anything is waiting i have to keep turning on the phone. What a pain... Cant put a led in there somewhere?
Or is my phone screwed up?
Also, on two phone calls tonight the phone shut down and restarted...............
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Welcome to life with a Samsung phone...
OK very cool thanks. Coming from a nexus one I would have never known about that.
Can we get swipe keyboard or something. The gingerbread one is so tiny feeling
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Welcome to life with a Samsung phone...
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Yeah. I kinda love HTC
This is my first non HTC phone since the first g1. Had a click but that pretty much went into the wall with that motoblur crap crashing all the time.
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OK very cool thanks. Coming from a nexus one I would have never known about that.
Can we get swipe keyboard or something. The gingerbread one is so tiny feeling
Yeah. I kinda love HTC
This is my first non HTC phone since the first g1. Had a click but that pretty much went into the wall with that motoblur crap crashing all the time.
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I dont have a NS yet...I have been reading the boards and trying to decide if I want one but I have a Fascinate and since its been rooted and debinged its a good phone but stock it was crap. I use something called BLN to notify me when I have a text or email. It lights up your buttons at the bottom. Its in the market but I think your rom has to be made to use it..I'm not sure about that but you might want to investigate that...it works better than NoLED.
I have no led running now. It works. I have it set to blink So it flashes the TV off animation which is cool.
Honestly. If You already have a galaxy s phone don't bother with the ns. I had my n1 since the day it came out I needed a new phone. There are many things ivwill miss about it. Like the desktop doc.....
More threads about this? Really? Can we have a mod lock this please...
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I have no led running now. It works. I have it set to blink So it flashes the TV off animation which is cool.
Honestly. If You already have a galaxy s phone don't bother with the ns. I had my n1 since the day it came out I needed a new phone. There are many things ivwill miss about it. Like the desktop doc.....
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Thats kinda what I been thinking...
Best buy couldn't get my upgrade info so I paid full pop. Was on phone with t mobile and bestbuys system couldn't get it happening so I can still get another phone suplimented. Tried a mytouch 4g but returned it. So much t-mobile garbage on it plus gotta pay for wifi teather
BLN ftw, wait for a kernel that implements BackLightNotifications and then download Blinky which makes your softkey's blink ever few seconds when you get notifications.
So awesome. 3 out of 4 calls ended with the phone restarting
Sounds you guys are having even more trouble than Galaxy S phones, I hope it gets sorted out soon.
I can deal with a dropped call but having the phone restart wtf.... I may un install everything and go from there adding one app at a time
When the phone is off if you click the power button it will show you if you phone is still charging or not
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"Thx" Samsung
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When the phone is off if you click the power button it will show you if you phone is still charging or not
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well yes... that works for everything... but why should I take the time out of my day to reach out and touch something when I could just glance at it and not move my arms????????
Is it me or am i tripp'n..I SWEAR that it looks like it's an LED light on the left of the MIC...i dunno if i'm just hope'n for something thats not there..but it looks like it's in there but i dunno
Or atleast where it should of been
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Is it me or am i tripp'n..I SWEAR that it looks like it's an LED light on the left of the MIC...i dunno if i'm just hope'n for something thats not there..but it looks like it's in there but i dunno
Or atleast where it should of been
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Left hole (circle) is the proximity sensor. Right hole (oval kinda) is the ambient light sensor. Hope this helps.
Does this phone even have a led notification light? thats the dots next to the earpiece right?
I ask because on my phone, i never get any LED flashing notifications when i receive a text, email, miss phone call, or etc.
Ive searched all throughout my settings but to no avail.. help?
Thats not an LED. It doesnt have one! Search. Its been discussed over and over again
Does anyone elses LED stop blinking for notifications shortly after it starts? I was hoping it would continue to blink until i check the message or what not.
Yep. Not sure why but it seems hit or miss on the LED.
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is there anyway to bake this into the a ROM? It would really be nice to have it continue to blink so i dont have to turn my screen on in order to see if i have a missed message/call/etc
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is there anyway to bake this into the a ROM? It would really be nice to have it continue to blink so i dont have to turn my screen on in order to see if i have a missed message/call/etc
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O yeah dude. The source code is out and has been released! We have the POWER!!! Just be patient and stay tuned, for the fun is about to begin.
nice !
sometimes i get LED and other times i dont
Me 2. Generally surprised to see if but I constaly have messages but no led. Cm7, thought it was just not working with the aosp messanger but its been blinking all day on cue today.....
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Yeah it's a little baffling how they setup the LED notifs, I'm hoping someone will fix/update/change that quickly. I've had the phone for two weeks and I still an not sure which blinking LED means what specifically.
Sire note, I'm also getting random vibrates which happen with no notifs at all and it's a little worrisome from a "what in the hell is the phone doing" standpoint but overall I love this phone.
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Yeah it's a little baffling how they setup the LED notifs, I'm hoping someone will fix/update/change that quickly. I've had the phone for two weeks and I still an not sure which blinking LED means what specifically.
Sire note, I'm also getting random vibrates which happen with no notifs at all and it's a little worrisome from a "what in the hell is the phone doing" standpoint but overall I love this phone.
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I have had that before too, thought I was going crazy
Glad to see this is a sought after feature. Maybe I'll work with some devs and see what can happen.
Noticed something while doing my customary video watching in bed last night...the backlight for the lower keys never shuts off if the screen is on.
Ugh.
Is there any way to change this that I'm overlooking? I really miss how on my Galaxy S they would turn off after 2 seconds
I'd totally donate to the cause of a dev willing to tackle this, too
Thanks in advance.
Yeah, it's probably easy to port my Fascinate mod (a services.jar edit) for this to the Charge. Just need a deodexed system dump to work from...
(I didn't even know hardware keys had lights!)
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(I didn't even know hardware keys had lights!)
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Neither did I, but glad to hear it! BLN on my Fascinate is one of my favorite things about my phone. Nothing like checking email by glancing at your phone.
Its weird, during times when im in full light i sometimes see the key lights on, and sometimes during the dark its off, its like it has a mind of its own.
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Yeah, it's probably easy to port my Fascinate mod (a services.jar edit) for this to the Charge. Just need a deodexed system dump to work from...
(I didn't even know hardware keys had lights!)
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I'll see what I can do about deodexing tomorrow, unless someone gets to it before me.
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For those interested, I found a way to disable the soft keys...for the time being.
If you're rooted, grab Screen Filter from the market, run it once with the soft key backlight disabled. It will turn off the backlights to the lower keys.
Then for whatever reason, until you reboot your phone again, even if the program isn't running your bottom key backlights never come back on
I've resorted to this method of disabling them for now until I figure out a better way of doing it.