Ice Cream Sandwhich Info - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

A friend of mine's father works for a major phone company. Legally I'm not aloud to tell you. But I have info on ICS, and if you have any hope on wanting info. You'll believe me. First of all ICS is completed. The release version is 4.0, not 2.4. It truly fuses Gingerbread, with Honeycomb. You know how the new Motoblur status bar looks? Thats kinda the whole theme to it. ICS is aimed to work on any and all devices. Tablets, and Phones. Just how a while ago somebody found out that hidden in HC is a GB UI. ICS UI will depend on the size of your screen. SO obviously tablets have Software buttons, and Phones hardware. Apparently there's an option to enable Software buttons in a menu similar to CM7's tablet tweaks. There using a new way to manage apps and the memory so that battery life is amazing! A Xoom apparently can go 75 HOURS! Yes Hours with out a single charge *Wifi Model*. ICS will be out for public development within the next two months. So expect CM8 in November :3 My source is amazing, I just can't say anything that will lead it back to me. ICS is smooth, fast, and amazing! If you guys truly want to see Pics of ICS *Yes, Pictures* I'll upload them next week. That will be the next time I can get a hold of some ICS. I'll upload the Lockscreen, Browser, and About Screen. I just need help on knowing what to blur out so my friend don't get in trouble. I was considering doing a Nandroid backup and seeing what people what do with that, but as the wife explained. I'd go to Jail Xo. So hopefully you believe me. If not wait to have your mind blown next week Thank You

I hope you'll deliver what you just promised

I truly can, it's not that hard. I had been using Honeycomb for 4 months before the Xoom was released :3

Can't wait
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yes, would love some screenies!
we dont want anyone to get in any trouble here... but..
if a /system/ dump was posted to some little known file hosting/sharing from an anonymous IP address... well, you know... leaks happen, etc.

chrisrotolo said:
yes, would love some screenies!
we dont want anyone to get in any trouble here... but..
if a /system/ dump was posted to some little known file hosting/sharing from an anonymous IP address... well, you know... leaks happen, etc.
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That's right, leaks do happen. Happened with Windows...happened with 2 iPhones being "lost" in a bar (happened with the 4 and the new 5 coming out). We don't live in a perfect world. "Accidents" happen

Are the home screens and app drawer designs radically different? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the motoblur theme.
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More battery life is the best news ever. Even if they didn't improve much on the features but gave tons more battery life, I'd be a happy camper.

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More battery life is the best news ever. Even if they didn't improve much on the features but gave tons more battery life, I'd be a happy camper.
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Agreed.
And this is the version where they are doing the full dual core optimization right guys?

OP never delivars
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I've had a galaxy s2 since may, and just bought a xoom 3g. The galaxy battery lasts a day. The xoom has lasted 4 days so far and still going. That's with gmail and exchange set to push, and on 3g. So 75 hours as stated by the op doesn't seem that great. Unless he means 75 hours continuous video playing?

WOW! I'm so excited about ICS!

Litesorrows said:
I'll upload the Lockscreen, Browser, and About Screen. I just need help on knowing what to blur out so my friend don't get in trouble.
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People might have missed this but there is an important question in the OPs post quoted above.
OP: My suggestion is to look at the already leaked images from the older build and see if there is anything that seems strange in those areas. I don't know how subtle Google's watermarks are.

Posting to follow this thread!
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op, some updates?

seems interesting i will keep my eyes on this post

Definitely following

Wow, I can't wait for ICS,
Following thread

ICS!!!
I need to get it!!
post the info please..!!

Yeah, strike. More battery life is the best news ever. I hope in trust .

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When does it stop, what are you after?

I've been running CM7 for over 2 months now and I have stopped coveting any new roms, or any tweaks at all. I came to Android from iPhone when the Dell Streak came out and I was obsessed with what new things I could do with it. I couldn't wait for DJSteve or someone to tweak it some more. I came to Infuse with that same motivation and flashed and flashed and flashed whatever folks came out with just to try it. Then I got CM7 and only waited a short time for some small kinks to be ironed out and I can't think of anything I want my phone to do (although having less shutter lag on the camera would be great). So, with IOS you have the same OS for a year or so and get some improvements, but with XDA and the awesome DEVS you really get all kinds of options.....So here I am, extremely happy with my phone, rarely checking XDA for anything new and I'm wondering..........what "more" do you want? ..........
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I've been running CM7 for over 2 months now and I have stopped coveting any new roms, or any tweaks at all. I came to Android from iPhone when the Dell Streak came out and I was obsessed with what new things I could do with it. I couldn't wait for DJSteve or someone to tweak it some more. I came to Infuse with that same motivation and flashed and flashed and flashed whatever folks came out with just to try it. Then I got CM7 and only waited a short time for some small kinks to be ironed out and I can't think of anything I want my phone to do (although having less shutter lag on the camera would be great). So, with IOS you have the same OS for a year or so and get some improvements, but with XDA and the awesome DEVS you really get all kinds of options.....So here I am, extremely happy with my phone, rarely checking XDA for anything new and I'm wondering..........what "more" do you want? ..........
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thats a Bad attitude......lol
i want the latest cm rom with bluetooth.....still lookin'.
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i want the latest cm rom with bluetooth.....still lookin'.
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+1 on the Bluetooth .. would be SWEET if someone can ever get it working.
On another side, also with CM7 .. for the Infuse, fix the front-facing camera resolution issue .. this camera ain't 640x480 only !!!
I want it ALL THE WORLD.....
The world is not enough...
Bluetooth would be nice. I'd also like to see some real 4G. I know it is in certain places, and it has nothing to do with the developers...
Hoping when gingerbread is finally released officially for our phones, maybe we will see some small improvements... but like you said... there's not much besides the tiny tweaks... and maybe.... getting them to fly .... haha
EDIT: OH YA!! I almost forgot the most important thing... I would like to see reliable working GPS... I have tried all the tricks I could find and it takes soooo long to get a lock and when I finally do.... suddenly I am a mile off course... Samsung GPS.... tisk... tisk
I'd like my HDMI to work again
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I'll stop when I'm bored developing? ;-)
I want ICS all up in my Infuse. ;-)
ICS would be awesome but for some reason I think it'll be like cm and never be a perfect running rom always has bugs. But I have my fingers crossed.
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Part of the fun of Android is that you have the choice. You can take something and be perfectly happy with it like cm7 and run with it, or you can push on to the limits and invent new things as you go. That's the beauty though is that it's up to you, not the company releasing it, not the community, not your mom. It's YOUR choice how far you take it.
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I'll be happy when I can get a ROM that will connect to a PS3 controller and be able to output HDMI video. After that, I'll probably stop checking XDA altogether except once every few weeks for an ICS ROM.
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Part of the fun of Android is that you have the choice. You can take something and be perfectly happy with it like cm7 and run with it, or you can push on to the limits and invent new things as you go. That's the beauty though is that it's up to you, not the company releasing it, not the community, not your mom. It's YOUR choice how far you take it.
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Totally agree!! I love that about Android..............that's why I wanted to see what folks were after!! ....... And LinuxBozo, I'll be donating again cause, I just can't thank you enough for your work........
never stop

Official rom laggy?

I know stock roms have always been considered "laggy" and this official gingerbread seems to be not very responsive on the screen, choppy, crappy framerate with motion.
I have used custom roms mostly up to this point, but several times have ran stock froyo while in between custom roms and it never seemed this laggy, choppy, unresponsive...whatever you want to call it.
Just wondered if anyone else felt the same way. Obviously stock gingerbread probably has better features and things than froyo, but it just seems like stock froyo runs so much better.
Whats the odds they are going to maintain this rom and actually release bug fixes and maintenance updates?
Anyways, ill be headed back to Zeus.
No lag at all with the official GB on my Infuse...actually everything is very smooth.
I hated Froyo and didn't consider it useable.
Note I did do a factory reset after upgrading to GB then installed all my apps.
BUT, if it's not working for ya...certainly go the leaked GB or Zeus...can't lose with those ROMS.
I agree on the screen part, but the system is,overall faster, a lot faster.
Yes, I think touch is,less responsive and Swype is not so satisfying(look at those commas). Space size is smaller and the comma is on the left position of old space
I guess that I have,to press harder in order to be recognized, but when I got used to it, I almost never miss a touch.
I still think it's good to upgrade. The camera app that I like is still there. I used launcherpro to block all those att bloatwares so I don't care if there is any addition.
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Its very laggy due to the extra 80mb of crap att and Samsung piled into it..... the leak is quicker and lighter
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Its been very snappy for me. I use go Launcher with about 8-10 apps constantly updating in the background, and have never experienced any stutter. Zero screen lag for me. Maybe your throwing too much at your phone at once? idk
Its been pretty amazing. Att apps represent maybe like 4 apps? I just hide or ignore them. No big deal. Anyhow, Ive had 75%+ battery life over the last two days WITHOUT charging!!! ! NICE!
loving this official rom. Although I like all the ICS themed framework from zeus, im not willing to leave this official rom for it. loving it!
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Its been very snappy for me. I use go Launcher with about 8-10 apps constantly updating in the background, and have never experienced any stutter. Zero screen lag for me. Maybe your throwing too much at your phone at once? idk
Its been pretty amazing. Att apps represent maybe like 4 apps? I just hide or ignore them. No big deal. Anyhow, Ive had 75%+ battery life over the last two days WITHOUT charging!!! ! NICE!
loving this official rom. Although I like all the ICS themed framework from zeus, im not willing to leave this official rom for it. loving it!
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75+% for 2 days? Yea right, show screen shots and screen on time. You even use the phone?
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
bignate78 said:
75+% for 2 days? Yea right, show screen shots and screen on time. You even use the phone?
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Agree! that is impossible if your actually using the phone...at least i think it is
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FYI, used most of the Infuse's features today..typical use for myself...
SO...unplugged for 14 hours and have 28% remaining.
Not the greatest but kinda what I expected. Will monitor another day then try juice defender to see if it helps (always has before on stock rom...but not much on port/custom roms).
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Its been very snappy for me. I use go Launcher with about 8-10 apps constantly updating in the background, and have never experienced any stutter. Zero screen lag for me. Maybe your throwing too much at your phone at once? idk
Its been pretty amazing. Att apps represent maybe like 4 apps? I just hide or ignore them. No big deal. Anyhow, Ive had 75%+ battery life over the last two days WITHOUT charging!!! ! NICE!
loving this official rom. Although I like all the ICS themed framework from zeus, im not willing to leave this official rom for it. loving it!
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Wish I had magic batteries and unicorns.
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bignate78 said:
75+% for 2 days? Yea right, show screen shots and screen on time. You even use the phone?
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Agree! that is impossible if your actually using the phone...at least i think it is
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Wish I had magic batteries and unicorns.
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Whooooaaaa... Didnt know there were so many haters on here! LOL! Ok ok Ill say it was more of like 1.5 days. I unplugged yesterday at around 11 am. Used internet a little. Mostly downloaded a bunch of apps, was transferring .png files to it for like 5 hours off and on using wifi file browser. checked facebook. went through several features.
--Looking at my phone now and its like at maybe 35%, When I posted earlier I was just looking at the battery icon and it looked to be just above 50%. Could have been 50%. Either way, I dont think thats bad at all. I couldnt go a full day before without charging regardless of what rom im on.
btw i use a black background on my device with almost 0 widgets save for a pulse reader widget which i have on manual update.
So am I a liar? I certainly dont think so. Are there a lot of people here who find this official rom pointless? probably. Im not one of those people fortunately. Seems rather unfortunate that after such a long time of waiting, some people dont want to grab the official rom. I havent found one thing to dislike about it. But thats just me. Maybe Im special? If so then, kindly disregard this post.
No offense to anyone btw. And sure Ill be looking to the future development of this rom for custom stuff and tweaks. But till then, and maybe after, Im sticking with the stability and performance.
No development from me off the "official" from me considering Zeus is already running the same system. . If we get source is the only time you'll see any more updates from the devs ....
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Well i loved Zeus. Would be great , but im sure there are other devs willing to throw some more roms out here for everyone. Best of luck on ur next projects dman.
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Talk is talk till you show proof I.E. screenshots!
And ive bBen unplugged since 1030 and I'm at 73% right now and I'm always on it on xda, checking mail, playing games, Facebook all day long. There's days its awesome and days it sucks its not the rom I know that. I've got Widgets and a live wallpaper! Like its been said Many times before....not every phone is the same, each run different in different ways
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Whooooaaaa... Didnt know there were so many haters on here! LOL! Ok ok Ill say it was more of like 1.5 days. I unplugged yesterday at around 11 am. Used internet a little. Mostly downloaded a bunch of apps, was transferring .png files to it for like 5 hours off and on using wifi file browser. checked facebook. went through several features.
--Looking at my phone now and its like at maybe 35%, When I posted earlier I was just looking at the battery icon and it looked to be just above 50%. Could have been 50%. Either way, I dont think thats bad at all. I couldnt go a full day before without charging regardless of what rom im on.
btw i use a black background on my device with almost 0 widgets save for a pulse reader widget which i have on manual update.
So am I a liar? I certainly dont think so. Are there a lot of people here who find this official rom pointless? probably. Im not one of those people fortunately. Seems rather unfortunate that after such a long time of waiting, some people dont want to grab the official rom. I havent found one thing to dislike about it. But thats just me. Maybe Im special? If so then, kindly disregard this post.
No offense to anyone btw. And sure Ill be looking to the future development of this rom for custom stuff and tweaks. But till then, and maybe after, Im sticking with the stability and performance.
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No hate but you made a claim that was well above unrealistic. That muddies the waters in feedback on the rom.
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[/QUOTE]Like its been said Many times before....not every phone is the same, each run different in different ways
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I agree with this 100%. couldnt have said it better.
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No hate but you made a claim that was well above unrealistic. That muddies the waters in feedback on the rom.
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I meant to show that ive been experiencing some great performance with this rom so far. But as always, time will tell.
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Well I dont know what I am dong wrong but my screen with typing and clicking is definately without a doubt less responsive. If I try to text quickly and dont stop to correct stuff, its just a bunch of jumbled mess that doesnt make sense.
Now I just odined back to stock froyo and the response is 10x better...itll be back to Zeus for me for sure.
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Talk is talk till you show proof I.E. screenshots!
And ive bBen unplugged since 1030 and I'm at 73% right now and I'm always on it on xda, checking mail, playing games, Facebook all day long. There's days its awesome and days it sucks its not the rom I know that. I've got Widgets and a live wallpaper! Like its been said Many times before....not every phone is the same, each run different in different ways
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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You guys have no life that you need to be checking facebook?
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You guys have no life that you need to be checking facebook?
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haha dont act like you dont! lol!
No lag here, have you thought about doing a factory reset before complaining. You'll need to start clean, backing up data on a Froyo rom and then loading it on a gb rom is just making the new rom dirty. Start clean!
You need to let the new firmware settle. **** isn't going to be super fast when you first install it. 10mins isn't enough, try 3 days then come back and *****
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Jelly Bean Discussion Thread

This will be the One and Only thread about JB discussion. Anything JB goes here. Any other thread will be locked.
Cheers
Edit: No ETA
Awesome. Couple things I want to bring to the table.
1) @prbassplayer: Asking for an ETA should be fine, people want to know an ETA for something they're excited for. The release of ANYTHING (movies, games, etc) all have people wanting a release date.
2) How new does 4.1 actually seem? Code wise I mean; do devs need to change the hell out of the GNex ROM, or is just many small things that break when tried on our phone.
3) Finally high res contact pictures
4) My friend's running JB, and it's sick. Be excited for this.
5) I was hoping for integration of Gtalk, G+ messenger, SMS, Gvoice and all their other chat programs. The ideal of a unified messaging system for all their services + SMS is just too awesome. I'm actually a little unsure why thye haven't done this.
The release of Movies, games, etc usually mean money for the production side. Devs here do this for free (apart from donations). No ETA's. Its out when the devs feel its worth releasing.
Cheers
So soon cleaning thread. On Topic JB
Cheers
Guys, drop the eta debate please. Lets keep this a thread worth having. Flame and expectation free. It is not why its here. Moving on.....
What is the feature from jb that you are most excited to see? The previously mentioned hi def contact pictures is appealing to me, since I put individual contact shortcuts on my launcher home page. Hoping for the best on this. We have some great devs working on it.
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For me the biggest thing is Project Butter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdNrpN1TkEQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Google Now, Project Butter, and the notifications. I'm also glad they finally put in high res contacts.
Honestly, all I'm missing from Android now is a unified messaging service. They already have the potential, just need to implement it.
Also, I'm excited ಠ_ಠ will now be a native symbol between phones. ಠ_ಠ
Project butter, and notifications! High res contacts is cool but theres already an app that fixes that.. so they just making it built in finally. (as it should have already been)
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Project butter, and notifications! High res contacts is cool but theres already an app that fixes that.. so they just making it built in finally. (as it should have already been)
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The problem is Gmail contacts actually, when you wipe for a ROM it looses all the high res pics when syncing. So I'm actually not sure if this inclusion will help at all?
Also HUGE thing that people may have not noticed, watch the demo here. The program autocorrects itself for context. From know to though.
How big a change, in terms of coding and implementation, is JB? *Note, NOT asking for an ETA, Devs take as long as you want/need* I'm genuinely curious as it seems like a minor change compared to GB to ICS, so I'm not sure how that translates to kanging it for our phone.
I really like the stuff I'm seeing with Google Now. I love stuff like that. Butter is definitely a nice touch but honestly I never feel like my phone is lagging enough for it to bother me.
Can't wait for my Nexus 7 to get here so I can start playing with it!
Guys we are working on it ,seanz is working and I am as well Im sure between the both of us we will get it soon .
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Guys we are working on it ,seanz is working and I am as well Im sure between the both of us we will get it soon .
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Awesome effort guys! Between you two, I am sure it will be a real success! Thanks to you both!
MaxCarnage said:
I really like the stuff I'm seeing with Google Now. I love stuff like that. Butter is definitely a nice touch but honestly I never feel like my phone is lagging enough for it to bother me.
Can't wait for my Nexus 7 to get here so I can start playing with it!
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I really dont have any lag issues either, but it is because of Seanzscreams excellent Rom and the tweaks he has put in place. But, just imagine jb being that smooth from stock, and then our devs further improving on it. WOW! The possibilities are insane. I am pretty excited.
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Guys we are working on it ,seanz is working and I am as well Im sure between the both of us we will get it soon .
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Absolutely awesome to hear. Thank you.
I'm excited for Google Now, my commute to school is awful every single day. I'm intrigued to see if it has any suggestions
When you see it
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Rem and Sean on this ROM? This if gonna be mentally retreated (crazy for the slow people)I suggested this a bit back and its gonna happen...Hella exited thanks dudes...
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Im totally stoked for this. Rem and Seanz are awesome devs, i cant wait to see what they come up with! I cant even tell you what I am looking forward to the most!
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Rem and Sean on this ROM? This if gonna be mentally retreated (crazy for the slow people)I suggested this a bit back and its gonna happen...Hella exited thanks dudes...
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will be awesome for sure.. refreshing xda constantly haha
Enjoy a little nexus jellybean boot animation. Would be cool if it was some sort of glowing jellybean though? Hmmmmmm? Anybody up for making a glowing jellybean? =)
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I'm using it right now. The nexus i bought off google play a few months back when it came out got the update too.

[Q] Are Most Of These ROMs A Waste? What Do You Think?

*I did not make this thread to discredit, discourage or bash any devs, I am simply asking for opinions on a subject that dawned on me recently. Please speak freely and non biasly. Thanks!*
OK guys, here goes. I've been experimenting with alotta ROMs lately, mostly ICS. In time I've realized that we never have the features that we paid for, mainly 1080p recording. If the phone doesn't oporate the way we paid for it to (And I paid full price) then is it not a waste to flash the ROM?
I love the speed and battery efficiency I get from the devs and I'm blown away by the amount that they've accomplished, but I've been recently contemplating falling back to stock simply because I'll have the awesome camera. I'd even settle for a top notch Sensation ROM. I know this sounds like a complainer thread, but I've been really losing morale with this device. It seems there will be no more hard KB devices so I might defect to a One S or wait for a One S equivalent from T-mobile. What do you guys think?
I will never give up my keyboard. You leave if you like. And these custom roms are supposed to give our phone something it would've never had otherwise. A functioning ICS rom. If you can't live without everything working, then you should stick to stock or stock tweaked. (I can't use 1080p even if it was working. Don't have a fast enough card )
Rom building and compiling takes a lot of time and effort, not to mention skill.
Essentially, these fine devs are doing the work HTC and T-Mobile were never going to do. Lazy greedy scum they are
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In time I've realized that we never have the features that we paid for, mainly 1080p recording.
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I personally don't think that it's a waste to flash these ROMs. Mainly because IMO (aside from 1080p recording) we're really getting more than what we paid for if you think about it. All the features that are available with ICS alone would have made this device more expensive to begin with off the shelf. Then add features of CM9 that these devs are cooking into the ICS ROMs or the features of Sense/ICS ROMs combined together...I think we it's a great thing what's been accomplished.
If 1080p recordning is the main thing you really want then I'd follow the previous suggestion and flash stock or go with a modded stock ROM. There will be no defecting for me. I love physical keyboards! I use mine daily in one way or another.
Even if it comes to the point that nothing on this device is supported anymore I will have this phone lol. We have enough to be used as DDs. So all in all for me, I don't think these ROMs are a waste to flash/use.
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I will never give up my keyboard. You leave if you like. And these custom roms are supposed to give our phone something it would've never had otherwise. A functioning ICS rom. If you can't live without everything working, then you should stick to stock or stock tweaked. (I can't use 1080p even if it was working. Don't have a fast enough card )
Rom building and compiling takes a lot of time and effort, not to mention skill.
Essentially, these fine devs are doing the work HTC and T-Mobile were never going to do. Lazy greedy scum they are
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Couldn't say it better my self
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manimmal said:
I personally don't think that it's a waste to flash these ROMs. Mainly because IMO (aside from 1080p recording) we're really getting more than what we paid for if you think about it. All the features that are available with ICS alone would have made this device more expensive to begin with off the shelf. Then add features of CM9 that these devs are cooking into the ICS ROMs or the features of Sense/ICS ROMs combined together...I think we it's a great thing what's been accomplished.
If 1080p recordning is the main thing you really want then I'd follow the previous suggestion and flash stock or go with a modded stock ROM. There will be no defecting for me. I love physical keyboards! I use mine daily in one way or another.
Even if it comes to the point that nothing on this device is supported anymore I will have this phone lol. We have enough to be used as DDs. So all in all for me, I don't think these ROMs are a waste to flash/use.
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Gootah said:
*I did not make this thread to discredit, discourage or bash any devs, I am simply asking for opinions on a subject that dawned on me recently. Please speak freely and non biasly. Thanks!*
OK guys, here goes. I've been experimenting with alotta ROMs lately, mostly ICS. In time I've realized that we never have the features that we paid for, mainly 1080p recording. If the phone doesn't oporate the way we paid for it to (And I paid full price) then is it not a waste to flash the ROM?
I love the speed and battery efficiency I get from the devs and I'm blown away by the amount that they've accomplished, but I've been recently contemplating falling back to stock simply because I'll have the awesome camera. I'd even settle for a top notch Sensation ROM. I know this sounds like a complainer thread, but I've been really losing morale with this device. It seems there will be no more hard KB devices so I might defect to a One S or wait for a One S equivalent from T-mobile. What do you guys think?
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This is why I use Bulletproof. It has everything we paid for, and is much more stable and optimized than the stock rom. I would love to have an ICS rom, but I want everything to work on my phone. This is my choice. I am happy with using a GB rom, because my phone does everything I want it to. If it isn't broke don't fix it.
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This is why I use Bulletproof. It has everything we paid for, and is much more stable and optimized than the stock rom. I would love to have an ICS rom, but I want everything to work on my phone. This is my choice. I am happy with using a GB rom, because my phone does everything I want it to. If it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Do you have one of Blues UV Kernels? I REALLY NEED THE 8%. My computer was fried, and I can't get into my HDD.
Sorry for the off topic.
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Do you have one of Blues UV Kernels? I REALLY NEED THE 8%. My computer was fried, and I can't get into my HDD.
Sorry for the off topic.
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I have the uv5 kernel, is that the one you need? Also I have the overclock kernel too.
I will Pm you.
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I have the uv5 kernel, is that the one you need? Also I have the overclock kernel too.
I will Pm you.
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Both would be nice, I can just UV to 8% using system tuner.
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I'm sorta in the same boat as OP. I've flashed everything and found camera limitations with all of them, so I'm really waiting a 1080p fix with flawless camera otherwise before I go back to ICS. I really love how far everything has come this year in terms of development and it's much appreciated, but I don't plan on going back to an ICS ROM without a fully functioning camera. I have an 19 month year old son and just can't risk it!
My dream is ICS with Sense, but even just for a nice camera fix, I think I'd be okay without Sense.
Running Mik in the meantime. Bulletproof was nice except for the green tint to everything.
Hoping for a camera fix soon. Wallet will be opened then!
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I have the uv5 kernel, is that the one you need? Also I have the overclock kernel too.
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I am in north carolina, my dev computer is in pennsylvania. I bought yogi's doubleshot, he doesn't have one anymore.
I don't know what I have, but whatever it is it's hundreds of miles away and wholly unavailable.
If you want to host the UV kernels, they were made by yogi, but I'm sure it'll be okay - only issue is no sources, so...?
If it's kosher to link them up here, then feel free to host them and make a thread for it if you want, I have no issue with it, if it'll help someone that's what's important.
Just make sure to credit yogi, and make sure to be explicit about no support from the authors. I'm not quite in a position to do so yet with my new job, still absorbing a lot of data and training, so my brain and body are worn and exhausted after my shift ends in the morning.
I'll bring this to yogi's attention, or at least ask about it, but I don't see an issue with sharing it, provided the two requests I made above are filled.
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Oh, not gonna quote the whole OP yet again in the thread on page 1... But...
Op - if you feel something is lacking, you are in the place to give you the best shot at figuring out how to make it do what you want.
As far as getting all the features you paid for, well, you paid htc or tmobile, or a little of both, or you bought it secondhand, but the money was originally collected by one or both of those entities. If you use the software they provide, then you get what you paid for.
Using an alternate software version, like what you find here, actually gives you much more then what you paid for it - for you paid nothing, and got a whole lot in return.
You can jump in and help the active devs solve problems, or wait until they do, but the argument about getting whatever value you invested real money into evaporates the moment you flash any non-stock OS.
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I am in north carolina, my dev computer is in pennsylvania. I bought yogi's doubleshot, he doesn't have one anymore.
I don't know what I have, but whatever it is it's hundreds of miles away and wholly unavailable.
If you want to host the UV kernels, they were made by yogi, but I'm sure it'll be okay - only issue is no sources, so...?
If it's kosher to link them up here, then feel free to host them and make a thread for it if you want, I have no issue with it, if it'll help someone that's what's important.
Just make sure to credit yogi, and make sure to be explicit about no support from the authors. I'm not quite in a position to do so yet with my new job, still absorbing a lot of data and training, so my brain and body are worn and exhausted after my shift ends in the morning.
I'll bring this to yogi's attention, or at least ask about it, but I don't see an issue with sharing it, provided the two requests I made above are filled.
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I would but I have no computer, I got a hold of your OC kernel. Then dropped the UV my self using some chart I found here. I can't wait to see you back here. CM9 soucre, and 3.0 Kernel Soucre. Bulletproof ICS?
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*I did not make this thread to discredit, discourage or bash any devs, I am simply asking for opinions on a subject that dawned on me recently. Please speak freely and non biasly. Thanks!*
OK guys, here goes. I've been experimenting with alotta ROMs lately, mostly ICS. In time I've realized that we never have the features that we paid for, mainly 1080p recording. If the phone doesn't oporate the way we paid for it to (And I paid full price) then is it not a waste to flash the ROM?
I love the speed and battery efficiency I get from the devs and I'm blown away by the amount that they've accomplished, but I've been recently contemplating falling back to stock simply because I'll have the awesome camera. I'd even settle for a top notch Sensation ROM. I know this sounds like a complainer thread, but I've been really losing morale with this device. It seems there will be no more hard KB devices so I might defect to a One S or wait for a One S equivalent from T-mobile. What do you guys think?
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Virtuous Inquisition & Rubix Ice 5.3 both have functioning 1080 video recording. There may even be a couple more. I can't recall. V I even uses the original Doubleshot camera.
WeekendsR2Short said:
Virtuous Inquisition & Rubix Ice 5.3 both have functioning 1080 video recording. There may even be a couple more. I can't recall. V I even uses the original Doubleshot camera.
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Not true... Virt Inq dosn't have working 1080p, or the DS camera. It's using the Sense 3.6 camera. Only Rubix, and any stock based Roms have it(1080p/DS Camera).
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Not true... Virt Inq dosn't have working 1080p, or the DS camera. It's using the Sense 3.6 camera. Only Rubix, and any stock based Roms have it(1080p/DS Camera).
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I'd dance naked in the street for a Virtuous Primadonna with working 1080 camera...
Or at least an s-series virtuous ROM...
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Not true... Virt Inq dosn't have working 1080p, or the DS camera. It's using the Sense 3.6 camera. Only Rubix, and any stock based Roms have it(1080p/DS Camera).
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Sorry...it IS 720. But that sure looked like the original DS camera to me. Best I could remember...
rorytmeadows said:
I'd dance naked in the street for a Virtuous Primadonna with working 1080 camera...
Or at least an s-series virtuous ROM...
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New Years Day (Early Morning??) 2010, I did that. Got so Dr. Pepper in the end
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Heck, I've got a computer. Why can't we just upload it to a share site with permission, of course. If this is the same same Yogi from the G2 section, I remember him and he was a nice guy. I doubt he'd mind with proper credit. Let me know if I can help. I'm still settling in here and am a newb as far as the Doubleshot goes. I'd love to support this device with whatever can like I try to do with all my devices. Just looking for what needs to be done/or something helpful that's not too much beyond my expertise or time lol! I am a bit concerned and confused on the framework variations between ICS and GB but I can pick it up as I go. I've only run 2 ICS roms between two devices so I have a lot of reading to do. Well, my computer is here if y'all need it. Feel free to pm me if anyone needs it or if I can help.
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New Years Day (Early Morning??) 2010, I did that. Got so Dr. Pepper in the end
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oh crap... I'm gonna have nightmares tonight:laugh:
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1080p recording
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To be fair, I never used this feature before I flashed CM9, and I continue to not need it. Cameras, to me, are just a bonus. I just want a faster phone with better battery life.

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What are you guys pros, cons, and recommendations.
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Great phone, few annoyances
Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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I hated that damn epic. this phone is superior in every way. contrary to the "bigger is better" hype, I like the size of the phone. It fits nicely in my hand and I don't have to be a contortionist to get my fingers across the screen. the only issue I have to complain about so far, besides the lack of toggles, is that if you have head phones or a bluetooth device connected, the notifications play thru it instead of the back speak. But that could user error on my part.. It isn't that much thicker than the original Photon. I'm holding them both in my hands right now and the weight isn't that much different either, especially for a slider. I'm not in to much of a hurry for any custom roms. but it would be nice to have root. I'm sure shabby or one of the other great devs will have that taken care of soon enough...
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Overall I think it's a great phone, with a lot of potential. The battery life blows the Epic out of the water, the reception is WAY better, and the keyboard is amazing once you get past the initial learning curve.
Even the stock ROM is not that bad.. My only real gripe is the lack of any toggle buttons in the notifications menu. That drives me insane, I use those constantly and HATE having to go into the settings every time I want to turn anything on or off.
I am, however, eagerly awaiting a root method and some custom ROM goodness. Which will quite easily take care of the majority of my gripes (besides the non-removable battery).
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How about a widget? or maybe this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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How about a widget? or maybe this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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There are other alternatives, just giving 1 example.
So far, my thoughts on this device are that it is amazing! This could just be because i'm upgrading from a DROID Eris from Verizon, but this device does just about everything right!
The keyboard is by far the best one I've used on a mobile device, its very tactile and the back light is bright and adjustable. The phones performance is top notch, no lag in apps or just scrolling around. I've even gotten my ps1,n64,and gba emulators running great with keys mapped to the keypad
My internet browsing experience is been quite good, even though I'm still using sprint's 3g network, all websites load up quick and are smooth.
The screen looks fantastic, although it isn't full HD, colors are vibrant and watching videos is great on the phone. Overall, i am VERY pleased with the device so far, and i cant wait to see what developers have in store for it!
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haveigonemental said:
I tried it out, and it basically works... It does have a sort of tacked on feeling. I'd much prefer a baked in solution tho.
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I just tossed the power control widget that's included on my home screen. While you can't get to it from everywhere, it's only one button away.
The only thing about this phone that I truly do not like is notification light. I don't like green XD
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I just tossed the power control widget that's included on my home screen. While you can't get to it from everywhere, it's only one button away.
The only thing about this phone that I truly do not like is notification light. I don't like green XD
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When that's your biggest gripe things are looking up for this phone
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If anyone buys/uses the HD Dock and/or the Vehicle Dock for the Q, I'd be highly interested in hearing your thoughts and experiences after a bit of time using those as well....just tossing that out there for present and future owners alike.
Found this fairly indepth impression post by someone over at Phandroid, worth a read by those considering buying:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/604051-my-impressions.html
Better than the Galaxy S III?
So, the question for me is how does it compare to the Galaxy SIII?
Well the sg3 was out because samsung does not update crap. So I was leaning towards the htc evo lte when I heard about the photon q. Sometimes I have to compose some sizable emails for work and the touch typing can get pretty frustrating in those situations, so I end up using my epics keyboard a lot. Even thought about getting the htc and a blackberry just for emails for work
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Well the sg3 was out because samsung does not update crap. So I was leaning towards the htc evo lte when I heard about the photon q. Sometimes I have to compose some sizable emails for work and the touch typing can get pretty frustrating in those situations, so I end up using my epics keyboard a lot. Even thought about getting the htc and a blackberry just for emails for work
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im really wondering where you are getting your sources for samsung doesnt update crap, as far as ive seen they have done a pretty decent job on sprint so far.
I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
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MysteryEmotionz said:
Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
The epic started with eclair. Updated to froyo n now has ginger bread stock. That's 2 major updates
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I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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i did actually, froyo came a little slower but i understand why, back then AOSP was really closed off towards just the nexus one. you want proof in that look at how long it took from eclair to froyo vs froyo to gb, samsung had based the nexus s off its samsung galaxy line so it was able to know how to have the code work on the humming bird a hell of a lot sooner. in fact the gingerbread update was posted the day ICS was announced, thus making the epic only 1 update "behind". granted its two now but its also past its two year mark (or rather tomorrow it will be, i remember picking mine up on august 31st 2010 launch day)
the epic 4g touch launched with gingerbread not that long ago it got ics and will prolly get jellybean someday. sgs3 launched with ICS and the tmo version already has leaks of JB, meaning it will prolly happen soon.
now lets compare that to the photon (im sure a few other moto phones fit this bill) launched with 2.3.4, after 7?8? months got an update to 2.3.5 instead of ICS, ICS is coming later this year which means it will only be one update behind until Key Lime is released this november, what do you think the odds are of the photon getting jellybean officially? so as of this november it will be 2 behind and stay that way, considering photon owners are 1 year into their 2 year agreement for that device doesnt leave a lot of hope.
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Why you say that cause it's stuck on ginger bread unless you use cyanogen mod?
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YOU!!! ;P
tumbes20000 said:
I guess u havent had an epic 4g
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XD Helps if you know who you're talking to. He's pretty on point.
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i did actually, froyo came a little slower but i understand why, back then AOSP was really closed off towards just the nexus one. you want proof in that look at how long it took from eclair to froyo vs froyo to gb, samsung had based the nexus s off its samsung galaxy line so it was able to know how to have the code work on the humming bird a hell of a lot sooner. in fact the gingerbread update was posted the day ICS was announced, thus making the epic only 1 update "behind". granted its two now but its also past its two year mark (or rather tomorrow it will be, i remember picking mine up on august 31st 2010 launch day)
the epic 4g touch launched with gingerbread not that long ago it got ics and will prolly get jellybean someday. sgs3 launched with ICS and the tmo version already has leaks of JB, meaning it will prolly happen soon.
now lets compare that to the photon (im sure a few other moto phones fit this bill) launched with 2.3.4, after 7?8? months got an update to 2.3.5 instead of ICS, ICS is coming later this year which means it will only be one update behind until Key Lime is released this november, what do you think the odds are of the photon getting jellybean officially? so as of this november it will be 2 behind and stay that way, considering photon owners are 1 year into their 2 year agreement for that device doesnt leave a lot of hope.
YOU!!! ;P
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you nailed it right on the head.
I love when people don't realize me n you have been working on the epic since the beginning and we seen the phone grow and know what where talking about. Silly newbs
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you nailed it right on the head.
I love when people don't realize me n you have been working on the epic since the beginning and we seen the phone grow and know what where talking about. Silly newbs
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actually i tend to get confused when people mention me and epic. as i never did anything big for it, i leaked DK17 froyo build. i did the first linux/mac one click but i didnt do any roms or anything :/

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